NLSavage:
DAT girl actually murdered english.

Like she mothered and fathered it.

Magnoliaa:



I am not a rare feminist. Feminists are feminists. All I know believe the same thing.

Y'all conflate a feminist with other kind of women (especially a traditional one, a sex worker). You think every feminist is traditional, 'bad,' lack morals/values, sleep around with men and so on.

Nah. There’s second wave and third wave. Third wave gals are quite different, and seem to act contrary to all what you said above.

Magnoliaa:


If you actually consider stats, you'll see that equality is far from being achieved.


That's because they've been conditioned to do only that, and women not only work in the office but at home, at social gatherings, so they have to share their time. Is this really a fair comparison? What other things are men burdened with that women don't get like 3x of it?

This doesn't change the fact that of women's oppression.



So, is feminism against this? This man working for the woman and the woman 'enjoying' is a very unbalanced narrative. That average lady is no feminist.




This is because a woman is more qualified, suited for childcare. Raising them up and providing the emotional support they need. If you are not going to be in the picture, why won't you support with money?



Blame patriarchy for putting you above a woman and calling you a strong man who cannot be hurt in any way. The cops laughing at you is because of their indoctrination, upbringing of seeing a man as superior to man - so why should they believe you? Another fact also is that, women are more vulnerable, at a disadvantage, so they'll get more protection. A women complaining of assault (any kind) is most time right. Note: I didn't say every woman. And all the complaint is not against all men.



Well, I'm not a kid. I don't wait on any man to do all these. And neither do any feminist expect so 'cos she's a female.




I'm a feminist. I don't know you're talking about. A man who sit down and expect me to work is no feminist.
That is not feminism.




Which women are these? Are they Feminists? Or gold-diggers?

You must be a rare feminist then.

Magnoliaa:


How is the Western man a failure? Who or what gets to set the standard for a human who is a failure and one who is a success? What are the things that qualifies as a weakness? Vulnerability? Openness? Honesty? Care? Sensitivity?
Behaviors such as a man not showing emotions and being a sole decision maker are amongst things feminists address because psychologically, they not only hurt the woman but the man, too, and when gender expectations are being analyzed, these behaviors are questioned, demanded to be changed.

So, is the clamoring for men to be free, to break out of that gender restriction box, and be human what you consider a weakness? But, don't you still complain about men's health and issues? Their problems? Do you know that a great number of those issues y'all face would be solved if you all let go of the culturally expected behaviors from you?

Look at the Western countries, the state of their economy and inventions, discoveries, rapid improvement of the human life, opportunities and security, and you say a man who lives there - an average one - is a failure?

He is far more better than his counterpart here is Africa.

Still, with all the progress that've been made in the West, equality between the sexes is still a far-off reality. Men were the sole 'providers' and have continued to remain so, but women? They are not only providing now, they are also taking care of the home and kids.

Contrary to what most people think, especially about the West, the men who are not doing housework, taking part in their kids' lives and being an all-round present father are more than the ones who do. Don't judge by what the media/Hollywood is showing.

A question for you: are more men (in the West) going their own way or are they being a 'failure'? Because your stance sounds contradictory to me. Do you believe more Western men are embracing MGTOW? If yes, how are they being made (more) "effeminate" at the same time?

For them to go MGTOW, that means they'll be rejecting the typically 'feminine' behaviors that gender activists are encouraging them to show.




Traditions are simply the way things have been for a long time, so a traditional man is someone who does things the way they've always been done, in the past. Well, take a look at the way our African forefathers (and human ancestors) were, how they acted, and things they engaged in. Mentally and emotionally immature; lack of self-awareness; uncivil; barbaric; uneducated; lacking intelligence; sacrificing kids to idols; maltreating women, slaves; were polygamous, etc - what shows sensitivity in all of these attitudes?



[color=#550000]Alright. That's nothing more than an arrangement and it suited the time. Men worked, women made babies. The men who protected the women came from women. So, what does this say?

The human race had to survive.

This doesn't discount feminism. There is no denial of the facts of things the patriarchs did - but feminism concerns itself with the treatment of women within, under that system.



That doesn't mean the roles were oh-so-good, the perfect ever. And, no point here. I say, 'I can plant a tree, too. I have the strength to.' And you reply: This tree was planted with strength.'

Feminists call for these roles to be changed because:

1)Some things are not and should not be exclusive to men.

2) The world is advancing, with futuristic ideas popping up - I'll like you to tell me how the traditional and stereotypical gender roles will be useful in these ages (of Information, and so on).

3) For many other redundant purposes they served.



They prioritize the safety of women and children for what reasons? Was it because they see women as being valuable, priceless and a human, like themselves? No. They put them first to use them. Oppression of women was (and is still) a norm. I know you can find exceptions, which are probably the cases you're basing your beliefs on.

Men oppress both men and women, feminism is concerned with WOMEN, men mostly were the rulers, there some feminists/branches of feminism that consider men oppression, too. So, don't bring in your woes to undermine women's issues and stop them from being addressed.
If women are liberated, you wouldn't have to be doing so much of your 'manly' duties.

You: Men are used, exploited and made to shield a woman.
Still you: Feminists are crazy, are trying to change the order by removing a man as the/their shields and doing things for themselves.

The traditional way demands that a man provide for the woman! You do all those things for a traditional woman in the traditional way of life. If you're truly dissatisfied with that, why are you against feminism, against 'emasculation?'



Yes, the world will 'always' be hierarchical because people are born into various social classes, states in life, occupations and with different natural endowments. People will move up the social ladder, move down or fall off it (die). And humans will always form groups, based on many things like intelligence, power, resources, culture/languages, etc. Sooo, is this hierarchy in opposition to feminism — the belief that women should be equal to men when it comes to social, economic, political opportunities? Is that what you're saying? It's about equal access to opportunities (because of character, merit) and equal treatment (because we are flesh and blood). Being human, humane is what binds us - yet we have different opinions, perspectives, experiences....but because I'm not the same with an Indian woman, is it okay to torture her? Burn her? You have a misconception of that equality and you're taking it literally. I don't know how to explain it well. Does being the first child of your parents gives you more value as a human over the last child?

An hierarchy can exist without oppression or conflict. An hierarchy should exist based on knowledge (something similar to division of labour), merit, influence, charisma, talents/gifts, etc, yes even strength — IN A PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT that requires it (as in sports, work involving heavy machines).

So, feminism or activism in these cases in dealing with unfair discrimination (especially on the basis of sex, race - others things you have no control over). This also means that equality is not about giving a black man a role, etc he did not earn. No. Are you giving him a fair ground to prove himself first and to be seen, heard?

It's easy to dismiss movements when you aren't at the receiving end of what they are against.

Look at how the Western world is progressing and advancing, and you call their men 'weak' and society crumbling.
I think there's a research or finding of sort that I came across about how a successful and healthy society is one in which women leads. And company does better when the Board of directors comprises of both sex compared to it being males alone.

And look at the state of third world countries, where we have so many of those 'hard' men, successful version of men according to you: where are we?

We are not in the 15th century, countries negotiate and have dialogue now to solve issues, not fight war. States are mostly independent now, no one trying to conquer territories, because you talk of a nation dominating another. Even if that were to happen, there are soldiers and the likes to combat that. Don't have a false fear, no one is weakening men.



Very subjective. There are countless men who have a problem with it.



I know of one who wrote lists for his wife to follow. Don't wear makeup, skirts must always be longer than the knees, don't stay out until after six PM, don't call your family members, don't hang with friends.



As if you haven't seen men who are threatened by their wives' success, want a woman who is below them. Women never buy properties in their names, lie that their cars are hubby's.

Those successful women actually have a liberated partner who is not driven by his ego, is secured in himself, sees her as equal if you check, hence why they are okay with it.

Did you type all this with your phone?

crazyABO:
Later they would come online n be begging for money

Oil day your head.

romme2u:




wickedness in high places

Which other advice I go give again na?

You placed MSc before marriage in your topic. You already have your answer.

Go to a hospital, they’ll tell you the problem. I once had red dick skin. Thing was peeling off by itself; was very painful. Just get to the hospital. Las las if they can’t treat it, then you’ll have to cut it off. If your dick causeth you to sin my son, cut it off. It is better to be alive dickless, than to die with a bazooka like that.

AstroG1:
Am the Highly Appreciative type,anything you bring ah will appreciate and thank you.


Because for someone to give a gift means she has u in mind.

Wait till she gives you toothpaste, soap, and body spray. Then let me see how you’ll appreciate.

KevinDein:

Genuinely believe he's twisting the narrative to dance to the gallery.

The post clearly portrays a woman who deeply adores her husband. She obviously enjoys what she's doing and the man must have been nothing short of an amazing husband to have her adore him to that extent.

This whole idea that anything African/traditional must be inferior/backward smacks of inferiority complex.

Preach brotherly. Even a white woman respect her husband. Nigerians will just watch movies, and start judging our actions as backwards based on what they see.

Celestial777:



I just checked her profile now now walahi
I am looking for ny vaseline
Is your own remaining

I’m running to the shop now to get a new one. Hope aboki never close?

AwkaetitiBabe:
The man pays the bills, brings money for food, clothes the family and all. Yes he deserves the respect and love. It's really not easy being a man.

Sometimes, I just want to give you award for wisest female on NL. Who see truth, make e talk abi? Most comments here are just on how the woman is doing herself. Please tell them how hard it is to provide for others.

KevinDein:

No where in that post did it say the husband treats the woman badly. She does all those acts in his absence; she wasn't forced to; she did it because she wanted to. Not that I'll like this level of reverence from anyone but I wouldn't be as worked up as you are now if others are ok with it.

Learn to respect how others live their lives. At least that's what most of you that pretend to be less African/Nigerian than others preach.

Please leave that asslicking brother. He read with his phone upside down.

Kaycee54321:



Dude, mumu thinking is when you treat your wife like a servant especially when in the real word, you don't amount to much.

My wife will always get the best from me. If meat dey two, we split am one each.

I didn’t read any place in the post where they stated that the man is the one demanding two meats. The woman is freely giving him two meats. If the man decides not to marry, he can afford two meats. If the woman sits in her father’s house, she can eat two meat. The woman chose to give the man two meats, so how does it amount to indirect slavery?

I’ve written more two meats uncountably in this comment. Please read a post before you talk, the woman wasn’t forced. She did it out of love and appreciation, which the husband still does. Now open your eyes and stop being a hypocrite.

Celestial777:




Gbefun !!!
You are so right....wow
When a woman get sense they get am complete
Well i doubt if you are a female sha

Why are you doubting if she’s female? Can a male have that beautiful endowment that OP has in her display picture? You better believe brotherly.

SteveOfu:
"He used me,. I suffered with him. After all I did for him"



Whenever I hear this statement;
"I suffered with him when he was broke" what comes to this my silly mind is

"I slept with him for free when he had no money. Now that he's supposed to be paying, he left me" . ( I know, my mind is crazy).

Gbam. This is the most interesting part about this post.

It seems like people are no longer making standard opinions, but just spewing hate on the thread. We should end the matter; Toke and girls have won.

Kaycee54321:
Bullshit. Any man content with that kind of false worship is a piece of crap. I will never treat my wife that way and I'll never raise a daughter that will lick the soles of another human just because he has a penis.

Africans and false sense of self worth.

What’s this one saying? The man provided the money, the woman did the cooking. She served her husband 2 meats and she ate one. Why are you crying? What’s wrong about it if the man is taking care of her?

So he doesn’t have the right to eat two meat just cause she’s eating one? I’m pretty sure you must be a third wave feminist. Na only them day get this kind mumu thinking.

lilbest4:
you think sex was all Gucci was offering the lady?

Please leave awon feminists joor. Was Gucci even demanding money from her? They don’t know the full story just like Toke and they’re here crying inequality. If the Lord was to make everything and everyone’s responsibilities equal, they’ll still cry foul.

Feminists are like babies, they want what’s in another person’s hand. Even when you give it to them, they’ll still demand that of another person.

Korllami007:

Lol.

Michellekabod2:

This is the most disgraceful post I have read! Toke had a problem with Snoop Dogg not the couple...did Toke by any means condemn Keisha for staying?is a matter or choice for the couple,I mean it's their private life....her issue was "expectations" that a female should be able to keep up with such poo in order to enjoy which is what Snoop Dogg potrayed.

So what you imply is that anyone providing can do poo? If am richer than my bf and I sleep around,do drugs,stay in jail,he can stay as long as I provide?instead of advocating for her to stay because of love you are looking at it from a materialistic view?

Why do you always switch gender while replying my posts? Why can't you answer me straight up? I am asking if a gal is richer than her gf and provides but sleeps around,go to jail,does drug etc will the guy stay? Yes or no,stop switching gender roles and telling me if guys could bla bla bla


Likewise if a gal got pregnant for another guy,will the guy stay? Simple yes or no,no need to switch and say if guys could get pregnant bla bla bla...

The answer to your question is simple. If women are the ones doing the providing, a man will sit and what her do her bullshit and stuff. As long as when he feels like eating, you provide. When he wishes to flaunt around town, you provide. If a man depends on you financially, and never wishes to work, then you can get pregnant for another man, and I can bet on my balls that he’d stay; cause he’s lazy, and laziness is the default setting of a woman, that’s why she’d stay.

What is love if I may ask? Women love your pocket. If you have a fatter pocket, and your guy only loves your pocket, I can assure you that he’ll take all nonsense from you as long as he has someone providing both basic and mere wants of life. If you as a lady can take a man to Abu Dhabi from your purse, feed him from your purse, cloth him from your purse, take care of his family from your purse, I and all the redpillers on this forum will support you if he leaves you for another source of financial dependence (which in this case would be another lady).

Now I want to ask you a question. As a woman, you wish to gain financial dependence on a man’s sufferings right? Your case might be different (it isn’t to be truthful), but that’s what an average woman wants. Now, if your boyfriend takes care of you even when he’s in jail, sends you money, build a home for you, give you a one year tour of the Bahamas with all expenses paid while he’s in jail, won’t you stick with him? Now, if you know that he’d still be rich when he comes out, won’t you stick with him? If your answer is no, then that means you’ll have rejected all the gifts, which by default, a woman won’t do.

You won’t leave a dying Alhaji of 60 years willing to provide all your needs to follow a broke nigga of 21 that’s still looking for means to eat thrice a day. If you feel my post is stupid, then it’s your business. Next time, before you talk bout something, you need to look at it from both aspects, that’s how you know if you’re intelligent or dumb. If a scientist wants to argue something, he brings out two hypothesis, and that’s the reason why you must switch the man’s place with that of the woman, so as to grab the concept before proposing.

So yes, if he’s dating you, and he can depend on you financially to feed even his younger sister, and he sees a financial future with you, then you can Bleep the Prince of Abu Dhabi, and your boyfriend will still stick with you. But that’s not how a man is programmed, cause we are independent but you guys are not, no matter how much you try to hide it.

Michellekabod2:
oga, you are trying to say only females should be able to put up with some shitt? So males have to be turned to females before they enduring poo? Guys should not tolerate a gal that display Gucci attitude but vice versa can occur?

If you’re doing the providing, then I see no reason why they shouldn’t put up with you. First off, you need to know that Gucci didn’t tie her down. He even gave her money so she can live her life when he landed in jail. So what’s the fuss about?

Toke simply don’t understand the issue between Gucci and Keisha. She just wants Snoop Dogg to notice her. If not, I don’t see anything bad in what Snoop Dogg said. Life ain’t by force, if you can’t live it, then quit. There’s a reason why the word “quit” is in the dictionary.

If females take on the male responsibilities, and allow us take on your responsibilities (that’s if pregnancy can be switched), then I’m pretty sure that you’ll have a man ready to stick with you even when you’re worse than Gucci.

freshvine:


Define bullshit? You bring up rhetoric to fancy your ignorance.

Are you telling me your mom hasn't influence your dad in any decisions in the home front?
Do you know that world leaders have wives and their women are their first special advisers and assistants?

I would have loved to say more, but some folks will call it female bashing. I don’t care though.

This third wave feminism is crap. Women always love shouting inequality and whatnot. I still don’t believe that people can be so dumb in this decade. Men work longer than women on an average. The money they get from this work is shared with the family. Women work, and the average lady bags her money for herself, and feeds on the husband. If we want equality, let both parties bring equal amounts, and let the woman add more since the man provides shelter.

All women have their opinion. The law court allows women to divorce, and in more often than not, go with a huge sum as alimony, and also receive periodic payments in the case of a children born in wedlock. Why can’t men take the children, and women pay the money needed to train the child?

When it comes to sexual harassment, it doesn’t matter if a girl kisses me out of the blue. If I report to the cops, they’ll simply laugh at me and ask if I didn’t enjoy it. When I do same to a girl, Twitter will bash me, I will have a hard time building relationships and my career, and the church will come to my house to advise me. Where’s the equality for the man?

A man has to ask a lady out, take care of her, feed her, and do all sort of things for her. @magnoliaa Have you ever worked hard only to give the money to your boyfriend or husband sitting lazily in the house? Don’t talk about house chores, a civilized bachelor’s home is neat. But no, you guys demand that we work, and give to you at your request. Where’s the equality in that?

Feminists don’t know what they want. You want to be heard, but we can already hear you. You vote, you work, you flaunt around town, you have pastors, politicians, governors. Can you name one thing that men enjoy today that you don’t enjoy? And can you not name numerous stuffs that you enjoy on the health of a guy?

I’m not bashing feminists. I just want to know what you guys want, cause as it is, the world looks equally balanced.

Michellekabod2:

Or rather they should not be as bigoted as you are..
Snopp dog point was that you shouldn't envy the girl if you didn't go through what she did, meaning that only those who put up shitt with guys deserve the best...

No human deserves to suffer before getting love, except you chose that part.
Surprising that guys who claim redpill and tell simps not to tolerant poo from ladies expect ladies to stick by them when they do trashy stuffs..

Sadly Toke is oblivious of your existence,she is living life to the fullest!

Lol. What does my existence have to do with her? Everyone has the right to live life to the fullest, it’s not my problem. Everyone needn’t know me. They’re still lots of persons in Nigeria that don’t know her, I can swear I don’t know what madam looks like. I’m not that jobless to check her out on Twitter.

Gucci gave Keisha $2 million before going to jail. If it were you, from all you just said above, you’ll probably be married to your dream boy while he’s suffering in jail. Did Gucci force her to wait on him? Love is not always a mutual feeling. If I don’t like you, oh pa ri. There’s nothing anyone can do about it. However, I’ll still keep you in my arsenal, so I’ll have more plates to spin.

Back to Snoop. He said not to envy her, and that’s what you should do. Only those that put up with shit deserve the best. You want to marry a rich guy, do you know the mental we all go through just to make money? To make money legit in Nigeria is hard if you don’t have startup capital. Those of us that have passed that stage will tell you. That’s why most guys keep clubbing trying to forget the psychological trauma of being broke or poor.

I state and will continue to say it. If women take on the roles of men, and men started depending and demanding from ladies, you’ll see a lot of male Keisha.

makeherscream:
baba nor talk that thing again dis one no be love cause am the guy na mumu on he own

Lol. You wicked gan

Alexaonfleek:
abi
He should send pics or screenshots of d chats let's know if it's a real story or made up one.

Check his moniker,he just created an account this evening.i really dunno what people gain from telling audio stories

He’s prolly looking to enjoy himself off bashers. Bashing doesn’t come cheap, the post needs to be valid and on point. The probability of this post being fake is like 100%. No girl is that stupid to draw debt down to #100 when you just finished giving her #1,000. If she does that, I’ll personally travel to slap her wherever she is.

I want to go to bed joor. Goodnight Nairaland, there’s no story today.

Nnemuka:

listen to yourself.
What is she enjoying? material things? oh I get the ultimate price which is marriage abi?
Ask yourself one question, would you be happy if a man puts your daughter or sister through mental torture and consistently shames her in public with his lifestyle

Below is what he said, may be you need to read it a second time.
Gosh he was even cheating on her and you think he did her a favor by "honouring" her with yeye marriage.
tueh

Lol. My sister’s emotional torture is her problem. My daughter’s emotional torture will be her problem too. That sister and daughter line is stale. His wife decided to stay, it’s her problem. The post wasn’t intended at making all women loyal to misbehaving men, it just shows that people need to be willing to stand for what they believe in if they wish to achieve great things.

She got married to Gucci cause she stayed. If she had left, then they won’t be married today. So what’s the emotional torture there? Them tie her hand for the relationship? And yes, the ultimate price in life is material things. If you feel you can have peace without material things, then I pity for you.

Alexaonfleek:
Stories like this just dey annoy person


You're asking if she's greedy
She's not greedy
You can see how kind she is to you
Mtchewww


The story sef was probably made up to bash ladies again*sighs*

Yeah, obviously to bash ladies. OP send us her picture, so we can scan her and provide advice. The information you outlined in this post is not sufficient to commence judgement.

pascalexmond:
I have a girlfriend of two years and since we have been dating,I ve been the one taking care of her.

Since we started dating,she has never bought me a gift or spent a kobo on me but I ve been the one buying the gifts, such as phones,clothings,shoes,give her money to make her hair and run other expenses too.

Even when she wants to go out with her friends for a sit out,she demands for money for entertainment,like #5-10k which I oblige her.

Infact,I ve been d one doing all d spending,which I know most guys will never do for 9ja babe as it seem to be magarism.

Just that I like to take care of my woman.

But,I have one big problem with this my girlfriend which is escalating by d day.

Since,I am not d type who is used to moving around with cash,there few times when we re out and we need to buy drinks,snacks, fruits or something for mostly herself & myself rarely,that I ask her for cash within d range of #1-5k.

In a day or two,she will calculate all d monies she spent,including as little as #100-500,asking me to refund her.

She has been doing this in d last two years and it is getting worse and it irritates me and I don't want to confront her to avoid a quarrel,but it still shocks me that she could be so inconsiderate.

Infact,whenever she goes out with my car with fuel in it,she will cruise around town with d car till d fuel guage is on red and don't bother to even buy fuel of #1k.

There was a day d car went off in d middle of d road after she consumed fuel of #5k.

Most times if she exhaust fuel of #3-5k and I ask her to kindly buy #1-2k to top it,she will insist and torment my life until I return d #1-2k to her.

Last Sunday,we went to a resort and I was short of #1,300 of d cash with me to pay d bill of #5,300 as their pos was having network issues and I asked her for d #1,300.

Till this moment,she is asking for the refund of #1,300.,Habaaa!!!!

This is a girl I support with #50k upkeep every month.

My brothers and sisters,this is a girl of 25 I want to marry

I ve just been thinking if her type can make a good wife or even stand by me If in marriage I go broke.

Even to cook is a challenge.

Always a champion of Cold Stone,Kilimanjaro,Tantalizer and so on that she takes pleasure in displaying on her WhatsApp status for d whole world to know what she eats.

And not that she is from a rich home.
They are just managing to survive in their family but she is always running an Audio life on social media with an iPhone x I bought for her.

I am just tired and confused b'cos I love her.

What do I do?

Must you come n fool yourself on Nairaland? You already know the answer to your question, so do it bro. She’s dragging you #100. If my sister draws me #10k, I’ll slap her. What kind of greed is that? Are you not an idiot for even giving her money when she was stuck with your car. So she would’ve left the car if you didn’t send the 1k for fuel.

Even a 12 year old knows what you need to do bro. This thing called love is fake. The moment you guys start realizing it, the better for you.

Nnemuka:
Shes right, how many men can come out to say, she slept with multiple men, had different baby daddies, smokes, a prostitute, done time and here I am... we are still going stronger?

Majority of men love to brag about how they married virgins and a girl from a rich home.
Well those of you who take relationship advice from African Americans are doomed already.

Suffering with a d1ckhead? Chukwuaju

Toke didn’t even understand Snoop’s post, and I don’t think you read it either. Snoop Dogg was addressing the things that the woman is enjoying at the moment. She stuck with Gucci through thick and thin, and so he’s praising her for doing that, and letting everyone know that she deserves all that she’s enjoying today.

As for your case on men sticking with promiscuous women; I’ve seen many of them. If all of you guys take up the male responsibilities, and let us enjoy like females, do you think that I won’t stick with you when you’re in jail? So I’d spend my life on you, and stick allow you misbehave by sleeping with all my brothers?

Please you ladies should read and understand before you jump to conclusion. Don’t always be as dumb as Toke.

Ah, that’s a good simile: “as dumb as Toke.”