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Is complex:
The Catholic God forgave and did not wipe out entire villages, spread terrible plagues against his "children" in the flood destroyed almost everything he had on earth, except his friend Noah, great adulterer ...
Neither the adult punished erio of his friends David, Abraham, Solomon, and many others ....
I believe that Judeo-Christian God must be an alcoholic, and reacts according to their moods.
The Judeo-Christian god has nothing to forgive, nor I do not want to forgive me anything.

The solution is respect.
Until it is learned that everyone tioene hacere right to choice, and that our rights end where the rights of others begins, it will be difficult.
I do not believe that religious differences are resolved by killing people, burning churches or synagogues, or despising and sorcerers call the traditionalists, but mutual respect.
It IS posible kill a Catholic, an evangelist, a Muslim, a traditionalist, but IDEAS CAN NOT BE KILLED, JUST BECAUSE IDEAS DO NOT DIE .

Ilé asé.(House of asé)

buzugee: Really you are from Uruguay ? thats amazing. have always wanted to go to south america. hopefully i will make it out there soon. accept my greetings too Compadre.

Yes, exactly. Not only do I live in Uruguay, but I was born here.
In fact, I do not speak English, so you may have noticed that my expressions are not entirely correct (I use a translator)
If you travel to Uruguay, you may count on the hospitality of my family.
An affectionate greeting.

wesley80: In your haste to discredit another man, all you"ve done is to make a total joke of yourself Cos the Argentine President never had "cancer". If u pay attention to the news like u pretend to I'm sure u wld have heard she was wrongly diagnosed and was bact to work a few days later as agains at least amonths rest that was planned.
eideard.com/2012/01/08/argentinas-president-has-cancer-surgery-never-had-cancer/
In any case, TB Joshua never specified if it wld be a President or not he chose his words carefully in calling the person a "leader". He actually said it could be a VP, President or something else as I recall. Neither did he say the person was "loved" but that the person was young and needed by his country.

Estimate.
I'm not going to discredit anyone here.
Nor was I who wrote the story, I think you have not understood the problem.
It happens that the "prophet" said the Argentine president clearly SHOULD NOT BE OPERATED. Announced VIRTUALLY HIS DEATH.
quote:
IF THIS IS BEING OPERATED ON LEADER, THE LEADER WOULD NOT SURVIVE IT.
I mean, THIS LEADER WOULD DIE.

The president underwent surgery and his condition is excellent.
That can be called "sir" a prophet?
Be fair.
I do not enter here to discredit anyone, just tell the truth.
Read the thread.

Where it is said that God is self-created?

wesley80: I once asked why snails are forbidden and it was clarified to me that the prohibition was actually exclusively for Men only but women had to also abide by it so they don't entice their Men and sons. The story was that generations ago a powerful charm that forbade snails was given to the males to protect and energize them during battles ( If you know a little history abt the ancient wars in that area you'd know exactly what I'm talking abt).

As for Iguanas, we do not actually forbid them but our sister town across the Niger revere them and since a good number of folks in my town have relations from there, twas only natural we respected their trad. My aunt once told the story of a day they were going to the farm in a canoe with my grandparents and my grandPa sighted a dead Iguana floating by on the river but despite his best efforts to draw my grandmas attention away from the carcass( She's originally from the Town across the Niger) she sighted it and started wailing! My grandpa had to go after the dead and floating Iguana, retrieve it and conduct a little "burial" ceremony b4 they continued their trip to the farm! They actually believe they r re-incarnates of their ancestors or something.

An excellent explanation dear brother.
A great contribution to the thread!
Thank you very much!

rastamouse: LOL u can't even use this forum properly. I don't know why you are fretting but it was you who admitted that you are not smart. How did you ever dream that you can contribute anything here when you are not smart?

To speak to a fool like you do not need to use my intelligence ... would be about esteeming.

@mouse
You did not present arguments.
You tried unsuccessfully to deny that we present ourselves.
Now you begin the grievance.
So are the Christians?
When they have no reason to aggravate rush?
That is what his church taught him?
Where is the "doctrrina of Christ?"
Honestly, you produce worthwhile ...

Dear Friend mouse
I'm not smart, is that you are very unwise.
You will make a great discovery seemed to say that I'm an atheist ... and I'm not.
You now understand his low intelligence?

When you say they are happy because they recognize that God created something, I just clarify that I'm his poor reasoning.
Even starting from its course, what you say is unacceptable.
I think you

could not have done worse this talk.[/quote]Sorry this is supposed to be for unwise people
You keep giving pain

Nicolas N.:
@Canisma- You are just right. I think the world need to know who God has sent to our midst. For the fact that he is from Africa does not mean he is not from God. And this is what satan uses to deceive people that ought to have been saved by now.

Well... all I have to say is that watch out for satan agents trying in all ways to deceive people that God does not exist any more.

Jesus is alive and He still speaks through His anointed ones.

Beware of Blasphemers for we are in a generation without hope and without faith.

Blasphemy is the one who lies.
That assumption prophet (false prophet) said exactly the opposite of what happened.
This is not an issue of satan or god, but a liar who lies with his false prophecies
READ
http://www.cadenaser.com/internacional/articulo/cristina-fernandez-operada-exito/csrcsrpor/20120104csrcsrint_4/Tes


Use a translator.
And do not be complicit in this fraud.
Learn and then opine!

rastamouse: Admitted! Let me try again...

I must first state that I am very happy that atheists on NL have finally acknowledged that GOD created something. I never thought I will see a day when some of the hardcore atheists will come here and acknowledge the existence of GOD let alone admit that HE is a creator. That is a very good start.

With that said, I must say that I am very disappointed with the kind of logic that these atheist are bringing here. I will give another analogy since you failed woefully to understand the last one that I gave....

Scenario 1: GOD created the sea
Scenario 2: GOD created man
Scenario 3: Man drowns in the sea

From the three scenarios above, tell me all the atheists in the house...did GOD create drowning? Let's hear how [size=4pt]un[/size]intelligent you are!

Dear Friend mouse
I'm not smart, is that you are very unwise.
You will make a great discovery seemed to say that I'm an atheist ... and I'm not.
You now understand his low intelligence?

When you say they are happy because they recognize that God created something, I just clarify that I'm his poor reasoning.
Even starting from its course, what you say is unacceptable.
I think you could not have done worse this talk.


Scenario 1: Rastamouse was wrong
Scenario 2: Rastamause wrong again
Scenario 3: Rastamause was wrong again ...

Frostyzone: @ptolomeus, how can catholism be derived from judaism when both are totally different from one another.
Judaism is about mosaic law while catholism is about...(frankly I don't know).
Can you elaborate more on the subject?

With pleasure dear friend.
Jesus was a Jew. Jesus never wanted to create a new religion, but to establish some changes in Judaism. Catholicism as such takes its impetus in Rome, with the government of Constantine.
Judaism and Catholicism have in common the Old Testament. It is the same root.
With the birth of Jesus appears the new testament, which is the basis of Christianity, but is not accepted as such by Judaism.
It is a very large, dear friend, but the original is the Jewish religion, Christianity is clear from Judaism.
In short, Christians consider Jesus the son of God (or God himself), the Jews believe Jesus just another prophet.
Based on the foregoing, any Christian religion is a sect (a religion detachment above).

I think about that Christianity is animist, I have been clear.
I hope to have at least shed some light on the subject.

rastamouse: The irony of a foolish man's lamentation

All your arguments were demolished.
You have not presented a single element that brings clarity to the discussion, you've only taken a blind defense of a lost cause.
I confess I have been very easy to show that God has given us pests.
So it was fun in front of their weak and contradictory arguments.

ijawkid: @logicboy....I knw what bacteria is.........
But u shuld knw where I'm heading to......
God created everytin,but we humans too just because we won't obey d creator also create things that endangers our lives,even kill us just like d above things mentioned...
Then @ d end of it all atheists start calling God a wicked being...

Right.
At least you recognize it.
So we agree that God is not the synthesis of the good (all good) as they strive to say so many Christians.

In practice, many Catholic, Protestant and Islamic priests have pedo.phile.
In some cases, the situation was so serious that it should publicly acknowledge the practice of pedo.philia by priests.

Catholicism is a sect that separated from the Jewish religion, which is the original. Catholicism worships spirits. The saints are spirits, and pray to images of these spirits.

That's the reality.

Canisma: Does this man ever prophesy good things or is it always about disasters ?
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This is the usual question that people always ask whenever they hear about Prophet T.B Joshua and his prophecies.
This time around, i doubt if this one can be ascribed as a Bad News.
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I see the leader of Argentina been rushed to the hospital due to an ailment. It would be a life-threatening ailment that can lead to death.
God is telling them now; THEY MUST NOT ATTEMPT AN OPERATION ON THIS LEADER. This leader would go into coma. Yes, i see this leader going into coma. They must give this leader all medical attention that they can give without surgery because IF THIS LEADER IS BEING OPERATED ON, THE LEADER WOULD NOT SURVIVE IT.
I mean,THIS LEADER WOULD DIE.
They must resist all temptations to carry out surgery on this leader.
If they carry out this instruction, this leader of theirs would recover and become fully healthy again.
Argentina cannot afford to lose this leader. They need this leader now.
WORDS OF PROPHET T.B JOSHUA . . . Founder and General Overseer, Synagogue Church Of All Nations, Lagos, NIGERIA on Sunday, 15 April, 2012.
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As i am posting this now {Today being friday 20 April, 2012}, i can tell you that the leader in Argentina is fully healthy and strong. Therefore, there is no basis to accuse the prophet of guessing an imminent problem that is about to happen, as in the case of malawi president whom many believed is old and sick enough to die anytime.
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When things like this happens, people always complain that they never hear about it when the prophet says it until after the whole thing happens.
NOW THAT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED,
CAN THE MODS PLEASE PUT THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES ?

Note that it has only been the prophet, and no one else that has prophesied about this. Let this be a true test for those who are investigating the authenticity of PROPHET T.B JOSHUA'S PROPHECIES.
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LETS WATCH AND SEE.

First, the president of Argentina is a very resisted by its own people. It is not at all a president stressed or wanted.
But the most serious of all is that it effectively (Cristina Fernandez) underwent surgery THYROID CANCER IN JANUARY 2012, AND THE RESULT WAS SUCCESSFUL.
The upshot of all this is that what you call a "prophecy" is nothing but a BIG STUPIDITY.
It is clear then, that this FALSE PROPHET T.B. JOSHUA is nothing but a charlatan, a FRAUD ..

kolaxy: Mt 6:30-34,Jesus said' If God cares so much for wild flower (by adorning them with beautiful colours) that are here today and thrown into the fire tomorrow, he will certainly care for you. Why do you have so little faith? So, don't worry about these things, saying, 'What shall we eat, drink or wear? These things dominate the thoughts of unbelievers, but your heavenly Father already knows all your needs.

But, SEEK first the kingdom of God and be righteous and God will give you everything you need.

So don't worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring its own worries.

TODAY'S TROUBLE IS ENOUGH FOR TODAY.

Thank you Jesus

It's really very poetic ...
My eyes watered
It was wonderful what flowers and colors.
With a musical background that would be perfect!
But ... I'm still embarrassed because Jesus is waiting for me in vain.
You could tell he did not waste your time?

logicboy: Agreed! I wonder why these people can't see the error in their thinking

Blind fanaticism, dear friend ...
They are robots whose function is to "capture" adherents to increase the economic income of their pastor.
If that god they speak both told them that he got the disease in the world, they would continue discussing ...
We can not request people to think they have removed the brain.

Someone must know what those traditions?
For example, who do not eat pig or snake: they are aware of the reason that traditionally do not eat?

bigd4050: Where do you see Scripture for this? I'm not disagreeing necessarily but I've never heard some of these things before.

What if you don't live by a countryside or desert? What if you had a job, are you supposed to take off?

Why do you need a clean body? How do you keep your body clean if you can't wear clothes and your in a desert?

Why can't you use electricity?

What do these things have to do with not eating, which is what fasting is?

You can agree or not with fasting. But if someone decides to do, you better get it right.
If you live in the city, try to time travel. Not applicable to fast in an apartment listening to pop music and watching tv plasma, or whirlpool.
I have read about offering seeds, and it's correct. At the end of fasting correspond offer a tithe in grain, but the same shall be burned. That is the traditional way of offering a tithe, not another.

buzugee: you know there was an egyptian king with your name ? ptolemee. i believe he was ganked by murderous antiochus epiphanes.

Hello dear friend buzugee.
It's just a nick.
Ptolomeo was a philosopher, but I also I have no affinity with that.
I have no relationship with Ptolomeo (Tolomeo).
I'm South American (Uruguay) and I extend my cordial greetings!

I explain the story from another perspective.
A religious fanatic sees a pretty girl. He feels terribly excited by the natural beauty of the girl. Possibly mastur.bating in the dark thinking about she ... That's not the fault of the girl. He can not sleep, it is a sexu.ally repressed and dreams of the girl ... He has constant erections that haunt him, and instead to live it as natural, he feels guilty about being a man and powerless because they can not do what your body and nature (the nature that god gave him) you require.
Then he blames the girl, says she is a devil and that Satan is attacking ...
The only sin is being committed the pretty girl, and a repressed dream about having se.x with her. Nothing more.
Dear, here the devil is this man only repressed, frustrated, fanatical and perverted.
Or maybe we will believe that the girl really is satan?
What do you look for this crazy story that has told us this man?
Exorcise the girl being pretty?
Kill she because this lunatic says she is satan?
It's terrible!
This kind of fanaticism often ends in murder, and it seems that nobody here understands ...
This man desperately needs a psychiatrist, before attempting to kill satan and commits murder.
It would be another of the many murders committed in the name of innocent Christ King.

logicboy: ?/

So, Adam created sickness? Even with your theory, we can still say that God created sickness incase Adam sinned.

Exactly dear friend.
It seems that the blame for everything bad is the devil or Adam ...
Since we do not agree with these aberrations, surely they will say we are demons ...
What are some philosophies simplistic!

Image123: i'll show you how. Have you being praying secretly, i'm being gentle on you today?
It's like in a deep freezer, you have soup and meat and bread, which can be kept intact if there's light. If this light went, some organisms would begin to do things they didn't do with light. The earth/world is the freezer. Sin took that Light, and so we now see things we probably didn't even know were there. Sin brings darkness and death. That was what God warned Adam about.

Sin makes illnesses? Sin created by spontaneous generation viruses and pests? Irony!
Then, according to what you say, all the blame lies with the sin.
Well still, god (satan and create) invented sin.
Nor with that thing ceases to have responsibility.
You find another excuse.

Buzugee and Goshen360...
two persons with whom I differ on the essentials, but I respect and appreciate.
This shows that differences of thoughts need not be a barrier between people.
My respectful greetings to both!

rastamouse: JESUS is waiting for you to make that big decision. HE loves you and want you to come to HIM and be saved!

Jesus is waiting for me?
So ... either I'm very important (God is waiting for me) or that God really has very little to do, is bored ...
If Jesus really is waiting for me, I would say do not waste time, occupying the time in helping people who have no food or water in the world, the sick, that no more children born deformed and sick ... and many other things.
I believe Jesus instead of waiting in vain, could make things more helpful.

Idango: You are afraid of hell? i thot you dont beleive it exist?

Afraid of hell?
No, dear friend.
I have no fear of hell or heaven, or purgatory, or having sex with a woman, or drink a glass of wine ...
I rule I for my ethical and moral standards, not by the inventions of a group of fans.
I'm not a slave to the doctrine of certain sects professing fear of Jewish roots.
Health!