₦airaland Forum

mikron:
pinky are u saying the blacks in ur country are not allowed to stay anywhere they want in ur country? as in they are not allowed to build in their own land? pls im kind of confused here, pls enlighten me

During apartheid, not now.

But even now our country has laws, like you can't be building your shack in the city or anywhere you feel like it. Blacks can live anywhere they want though, even in the burbs.

Monicasque:
thank you honey. Please did you go to church today?

LOL, now you're making me feel bad but no I didn't go to church, babe. I'm not very religious. Did you? Hope you had a good day if you did

dayodare490:
Pso, it means since we can not measure the degree at what country is worsened compared to the other one should not then bust of his own.

Huh

Dude, let's just let this one rest in peace, like the other lady said. It's getting repetitive & boring now.

Monicasque:
honey please let it go my love. Guys please lets just let this thread die oo.plzzz

Awww. Ok now I'm really sorry for being rude to you. You're actually one of the nice people. I'm done, girl

Mandu94:
Are you joking. Cant tell. We can all contribute something, but not have the mindset you expressed. Otherwise the world wont be sustainable for much longer.

It is what it is. I'm serious as a heart attack, btw.

dayodare490:
being formal informal resident or township does not matter, what matters is that place, that dirty and unigenic place is part of South Africa and is in it. This augument is too kiddy

Never said it wasn't. I posted it after all so what's your point exactly?

Monicasque:
This thread should just be closed now. Punkyoh or whatever your name is, listen doll dis is a nigerian forum and there are very few south africans and the majority is nigerian, so you are never going to win any argument here. Everyone here should just understand that everyone loves their country and would never want to tolerate bad stuff being said about it. This thread should never have gotten so far. It should just be closed now. Fyi not all our men are corrupt or bad, in every nation there will always be a few rotten apples, but that does not mean that the rest of the nation is bad. My people can we please just put a stop to this thread because it might even ruin the good political relations both these countries have with each other. We are all africans and we should rather understand and help each other. Not bash each other like this. Please my fellow humans, today is easter for goodness sake, doesn't that mean anything to you? We are all sinners and we all have our goods and bads, but one body was brused on this day, so that all of us can be in another level altogether. Please mods, please close this thread abeg, it is scaring me. It has so much hate and negativity, and most of it its either lies or its about bashing things which we are not even 100 percent sure about. Guys south africa and nigeria should be helping each other up, instead of bashing like dis. Look there are cirminals everywhere lets just hope they stop their corruption and help all of us to build a good africa. Lol, i can't believe i earlier commented on this thread taking it as if it was a joke. My Africans, we are all Africans and most of us here are black, but look at how we are abusing each other.guys plz stop ooooooo

Don't care!

Mandu94:
People with such mindset perpetuate existing problems. People that improve situations go outside their comfort zone.
Doing nothing and accepting reality can almost be just as bad. The little we can do, e.g giving money to charity, spreading the word across the
Web about ignored issues, or even speaking to others can all contribute to a massive global effort. Yes this world is bad, but imagine how bad it'll be if no one like kumbaya, Nelson Mandela, etc and thousands more just swallowed crushed glass. Maybe we blacks would be so poor we wouldn't have had the money to buy a smartphone to even express your previous comment.

That's sweet but the Ghandis & Mother Theresas aren't born every day. They're an exception. Most humans are vile creatures imo. It's the nature of the beast.

Mandu94:
Glad

Reminded me of Michael Jackson's Heal the world or whatever the name of that song is. Never gonna happen, unfortunately. People are too proud of their countries, religion etc & would rather eat crushed glass than kumbaya.

Mandu94:
They way we are taught is conditioned in a way for us to understand. Country is a societal construct, defined by borders and patterns in populous racial clusters. When I say, country, I mean it morally. Love, peace, unity and understanding for each of our differences.

I got you the 1st time lol.

Mandu94:
Its saddening to see our fellow Africans competing and insulting each other based on a country's economic and social problems

I'm Nigerian and Nigeria has many problems such as the lack of diversity from the oil sector, corruption, cultural divisions (north south divide), reliance on expensive energy making the cost of production higher, poor education standard in public schools, poverty, terrorism and many more.

I don't know much about South Africa, but as a result of Apartheid, the affects of the division is still apparent in many areas but despite this there has been great progression. Nonetheless there are many problems such as crime, poverty, inequality, hiv and other such issues that I am not aware of.

Every country has its ills. I have seen the slums of Nigeria, I don't think it is any better than a slum in India, South Africa or any country for that matter.

I am Neutral. No one owns a country. When people start seeing the world as one massive country, it'll be a better place.

Until immigration catches you, referring at the last part

3 or 4 depending on season. The sun toasts my delicate skin well.

all4naija:
This your very post is done tongue-in-cheek way that I don't like. Where are informal settlements usually found in SA? Hahaha...

Let me start by saying, I don't care what you like or don't like. Repeat it after me, I DONT GIVE A FLYING Bleep!

Now back to business & I'm explaining this to you for the very last time so make sure you read slowly & pay attention. Here goes...There's a country, within the country there are cities, within the cities there are different residential areas & within those areas there are homes etc. It's like that Russian doll with many dolls inside it. The other dolls are separate from the main doll even though they're within the doll.

Now let's look at the South African situation, 1st there were townships before any skwata camp but because our govt at the time was not building any more houses for the increasing population & there were laws about where blacks could stay, squatta camps were born either within the township or somewhere near the township. Surely you didnt expect them to build homes suspended in the sky. With that said, it STILL doesn't mean that they are part of that township because we have house numbers & those numbers are known to the govt or municipality. Skwatta camps have none of that. They belong nowhere until the people are allocated homes. Skwatta camps even have their own names, separate from whatever township they happen to be in or next to. It's as simple as that. We know how our system works so you can't tell us nothing.

blackpanther25:
I bet Google also does not know who Mandela is either.

It still doesn't change the fact that they got it all twisted.

all4naija:
Now you are addressing it from Zulu's viewpoint, which we all know shafts must actually have a different name from cheap housing units constructed in their stead. You trying to twist words to make Townships look like a developed places which they are not. Simply Google on Townships would prove my point.

Listen & listen good..just because Google doesn't know what a township is, it doesn't mean that WE don't. We were born here & we know what is a township & what is something else. Once again, you can not teach me one single thing about South Africa.

all4naija:
Bwahaha... There was informal settlement there before as with all Townships. That is the developed part of it.

You're rètarded

MduZA:
true that,the word township comes from the word town,south African townships can be compared with Nigerians towns..the fool you are arguing with can't differentiate between townships and skwata camps(informal settlements) because he is only familiar with Mokoko slams in lagos..inkinga yake umona

Dankie, bro. And I agree, ngumona.

blackpanther25:
We need a neutral party. Where is that ghanaian chic from SA. Please come and answer does every home in the township have toilets and do they use bucket system or not?

Yup, ask Volvo. That's if she's been to a township. But let's wait for her.

blackpanther25:
Believe whatever you need to believe to make you feel better about yourself. It still does not change the fact that townships are suffering from the bucket poo system. It will be well 1 day.

LMFAO. OK

T3Amo:
lol you don't give a sh1t yet you still quoted me when I was not even talking to ya. Yeah right it's obvious you are pained. That still does not change your hiv status does it?

It ain't that serious.

Aren't you the one that mentioned my name 1st? You call me, I come running but don't mistaken it for fùcks given, it's courtesy lol @ pained.

Is your country hiv free, dumbo? You're showing just how stùpid you are, talking about something that's killing people & is a worldwide problem. Who makes fun of a disease? Rètard.

all4naija:
Really?You are the only South African I've seen disputing that. Most of those shafts are found in Townships. The moment they talk about Townships it is about informal houses in SA. What do you say about that?

They are all here I'm sure, ask people like DieVluit, MduZa, VandalZa, BluIvy etc the difference between Kasi/Loxion & a Skwatta Camp. There's a difference.

blackpanther25:
Am not telling lies about your country but the truth. You were the one who lied and said they all have 100% toilets etc etc and I proved you wrong and now you are saying most. Like I said. You can come and lie here to those who are not exposed to SA but I will keep telling the truth whether you like it or not.

Hahaha. 100% of TOWNSHIPS have toilets. The "most" I was referring to are Squatta Camps.

T3Amo:
why are you killing yourself over these useless peeps. Gina king= Mandu 94=kwere2kicker and I won't be surprised if she is also punkyoh. There only sensible SA in this whole site is Semihle. The rest can go and fk themselves.

You go fùck yourself too, cùnt. Like I give a shyt about your opinion.

blackpanther25:
and so what? What must we do with this. Does it still stop the bucket poo system there. Township, informal settlement or village is same thing to us. The average Nigerian does not give a fk about this to be honest

Lol, of course it doesn't matter & I don't care if you care or not but I'll still make a correction when you tell lies about MY country.

Again, the bucket system is not wildly used because we have public toilets in most of these places.

Here is a Township

all4naija:
You are begging the question. Townships are informal settlements. They are used interchangeably. Period

No. Our name for Township is Kasi & informal settlement is Squatta Camp or eMikhukhwini. Not the same thing even in our local lingo.

all4naija:
It is a part of Townships. Indeed, Townships were once informal settlements which spiraled into a huge squalor for black criminals.

You cannot teach me anything about my country. A township is a township & an informal settlement is an informal settlement. Finish & klaar.

Townships have always had running water & toilets. Always. Because townships were built when blacks were forcefully removed from the homes they have built, to make space for white people. So yeah, townships have always been a brick house with two bedrooms, a lounging area, a kitchen & a toilet. We always had all the things I mentioned in the other post too-waste removal, mail distribution, street sweepers, clinics etc. It's not a new thing. Townships were NEVER informal settlements because the two are not the same thing. Never was & never will be. Shikena

blackpanther25:
lol Fyi south African women are not the only women with big asses. There are a lot of African women blessed with such heck black girls in general so I don't see what is so special about it.

The funny thing is I don't see why a women would be happy that a man simply likes her because she has a big ass. That just means he only likes you for sexual reasons then ya'll come and cry how wicked Nigerian men are when your whorish women have nothing to offer then just having big asses and being proud of it as if it's some sort of achievement.

We were talking about South African women, not women from other countries. I mentioned asses because some guys here never talk about South African women without mentioning their asses. Was simply going by "your rules". Humouring him so to speak.

I'm not the kind of person that gets excited over things that are too appearance centric. I'm not that shallow.

blackpanther25:
if you read the Google posts I spoke of it mentioned townships. I guess you must be blind toi

Not blind. There's a difference between townships & informal settlements. I live here. So just because they decided to call an informal settlement, a township, doesn't mean it's a township as we know it here.

blackpanther25:
lol you are a very funny individual. You can come on here and tell lies about how your townships have malls and toilets and SA is all rosy but for those that have actually been to your country and are aware know that a lot of the things you say is BS. Is it not the same SA were 25 people share 1 toilet outside. The bucket system/open toilet is very ripe in SA and even a simple Google search would tell you. I know you love your country but there is no need to lie.

You do know there's a difference between township & an informal settlement? Even what you posted mentions INFORMAL SETTLEMENTS.

Ain't no shame in my game, here are few of our informal settlements. See taps & toilets.

Last pic are the new houses people move to after being removed from the informal settlements.

all4naija:
You haven't used bucket poo system doesn't mean others don't. Many still live in rotten shafts in Townships yet you want to make them look like developed places. It is a shame you don't know much about Townships in SA. Keep blaming foreign media for black people incompetence to develop and lack modern civilization.

Mr man, 100 % of South African townships have toilets. What you're talking about here are INFORMAL SETTLEMENTS, also known as Squatter Camps. Those are the people that are still waiting for their own homes to be built, because our govt do provide free homes WITH TOILETS & RUNNING WATER. I reiterate, even our informal settlements have public toilets & public taps for clean water because those are basic human rights. Our citizens are not neglected. South Africans are too spoilt & bratty, I'm not proud of it, but yes, we're too demanding to settle for buckets. Are you kidding me? Check your facts.

mikron:
i understand but i still commend u for remaining impatial in ur posts, same as semuhle, i hope to visit ur country some day

Thank you, dude You so kind.