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felixomor:
How did prophets, and even contemporaries like Nostradamus predict the future?

I have no idea. I consider myself a skeptic and not an atheist. I am inclined to believe in the 'supernatural'.I just need proof beyond reasonable doubt. Which prophets are you talking about by the way?

You just wan tell us say you dey spend 50k on shopping. Very foolish.

felixomor:
Exactly, Like asking facebook(the programme itself) who gave birth to Mark Zuckenberg.

Even though you are not an atheist, but you and other atheists base all your questions on one false assumption:
That God uses the human type of brain to think.
Its the only reason why u ask questions as such.

Hebrews 11, and even Revelations clearly makes us to understand that not until we are transformed, the human brain will not be able to figure out.
When I was a little child, I always thought cars were made in whole.
But now as an adult, I now know that the parts are first made then assembled.
As a little child, I would argue then, why, because my brain couldnt comprehend it.
So also, the wisest human brain will not be able to comprehend the spiritual, until it is ttransformed.
These things are clearly written in the bible,
But there is a spirit called rebellion, which always wants to tamper with default settings, and tries to poke hole in written truth by capitlizing on the weakness of the human brain, which continues to make people ask such questions.
Just like it did to Eve in Eden.

Can the human brain explain the origin of language? as simple as it looks?
Can the human brain explain the origin of consciousness?
Why is it that when I say touch somebody, u can only touch a part of his body?
Can the human brain explain that?

By the way, I hope you know people have started receiving implanted chips in their foreheads and in their right hands?

Is it in the bible or not?

Which year were the books of the bible written?
How did the bible know that?
Can the brain ecplain that?
How did men like (even Nostra Damus) predict events that will occur even after they died?
Can the brain explain that?

Even Richard Dawkins, professor of molecular biology, one of the most outspoken aethists says he doesnt believe God, but he says he is sincere enough to admit that there are some occurences he cannot explain, he calls them miracles.

Its very easy to live in denial. Moreover, like I always say, we can never convince anybody on our own.
But even God reaches out to aethists, when they are sincere enough.

And even many aethists usually give up aethism as they head towards the grave, because thats when the basic truths and limitations of the human brain usually become more visible.

You have raised a lot of issues and I think we should take them one at a time. Pick one.

[quote author=SenatePresdo post=47294129][/quote]They are numerous and have been discussed time and again on this forum,

I love this. I hope to do something like this in the not too distant future.

felixomor:
Just Imagine when a laptop computer is asking the programmer, are u sure I was Programmed by you?

JUst know that a virus is tampering with default settings somewhere.

Rom_1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: [b][/b]

Who programmed the programmer?

SenatePresdo:
You don't answer question with question do you?

Why don't you propose your model of how the universe came about, rather than condemning the religion view without tabling your own view?

My knowledge or otherwise of how the universe came to be has little bearing on the outcome of my life. I don't know is not a bad answer. There is no crime in not knowing. But if you insist that you know who did it and that you have a personal relationship with Him, then you have to prove to the skeptic beyond reasonable doubt that your guy did it. Religious beliefs that are at variance with modern scientific realities ought to be condemned, don't you think so?

SenatePresdo:
that is because you are not sure.



Since you accepted that you don't know how the universe came about, how come you know there is no God, and that the God didn't create the universe.

How come you know there's a God and that He created the universe?

This is from Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion right?

Copy and paste INC.

SenatePresdo:
Since you lack belief in God(s), I can imply that you also do not believe he created the universe.

Now tell me how the universe came about, and give me an incontrovertible prove?

I have never claimed to know. It's religious people that claim that their God spoke it into existence.

SenatePresdo:
No one has provided any
evidence that is extraordinary and
INCONTROVERTIBLE.
The above in bold, is your claim.


Not all evidence can be achieved.
Your presence at the scene could have been an incontrovertible evidence to you.

No it wouldn't have. It would have been me witnessing an event.Not INCONTROVERTIBLE at all. I go to church.

Na to bomb the Kabba remain, make everything end.

yorme:
Lol! Very interesting point! I'm sure they can help do justice to this also.

cc:
Seun
CAPSLOCKED
aaronson
donnffd

et al..

People spend a great deal of time talking about Harry Potter and Tyrion Lannister. You should visit the TV/Movies section.

Kay17:
You omit a part. You think your narrative fits into a ready made worldview -- a spiritual worldview. A wound mark running down your arm and erasing so quickly fits the narrative of a spiritual attack. You heard many similar stories and believe your story shouldn't be dissimilar from those.

Assuming you had no prior knowledge of an African spiritual attack, wouldn't you have searched for another explanation within a secular worldview?!

You just read my mind.

winner01:
Welcome home!!! I praise God for your life my brother. Which church do you attend my brother, which part of Nigeria do you stay, we can discuss on email. God bless you.
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Even you of all people fell for this prank. Look at his signature.

Image123:
What? Are you sure you were born again then? It's all over the Bible. For instance.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
Col 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:


When you say most, not all, why do you not give the same allowance for differing christian views?

I did not do those things and I still don't....All christians have a code -The Bible. What affects one must affect all unless you want to commit the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy.

Image123:
No, i'm saying it is not a matter of salvation. God cares about the minutest details like the hairs on our head. However, not everything is rigid or set in stone like 1+1 or a matter of salvation(which you are driving at).

So what will you say about OP. Is he not seving the same God as you?

Image123:
Hahahahahahaha, got you.

I laughed out loud too. SMH for you. Are you saying your God does not care?

Image123:
What is the FSM, fight for yourself na. Are you a christian?

Flying Spaghetti Monster. Are you an atheist?

Image123:
Most atheists on nl believe atheism is the right way to go, and that the world would be a better place if we all practised their religion. They do not say that they do not know, they are usually emphatic.
Displeasing God, who else? You said you thought you were born again, and i am asking if you stopped/repented of sin, remember? Stay in context.

Most. Not all. How do I know what displeases your God? Can you give me examples of some of the things that displease Him?

Image123:
Choose one.

I don't care. I am not a woman. Your God does apparently.

Image123:
i cannot be blamed for your lack of organisation na, go and get a code fah. At least, you people now have fellowships. Do you people have like CAN president, or parish yet?

People that do not believe in the FSM will also have to get their own codes.

K9blunt:
For goodness sakes! It is not "night vigil" its "VIGIL" which covers the night thing.....




Naija eh!

It's Nigerian English. It's not necessarily incorrect.

Image123:
That's unfortunate for them. That is one reason why the Bible remains the best guide. We both know of atheists like Stalin who killed people too.

Atheists do not have a code, the only thing that they have in common is lack of belief in deities. You know this.

Image123:
Are you saying that the OP is not wrong?

I don't have an opinion on whether he's right or wrong. We make our own morality.

Image123:
Not at all, that's a first. Not surprisingly though, they've also started things like singing praise and worship, Sunday service, night vigils and others. These are all relatively new and "dubbed". Maybe a quaranic verse will help though.

I agree with with you, ALL religions like every other thing evolve and adapt to the of the current zeitgeist else they become irrelevant. I know of a particular one whose adherents once held that the earth was flat. They even killed people for saying otherwise.

Image123:
Sin is displeasing, disobeying God. Atheism is also one of the religions. It also lays claims to being the right way. i also doubt it.

This is not true. The atheist position is 'I don't know' Displeasing which God? Does putting on earrings displease this God?

SenatePresdo:
You just maid a claim.
Can you provide an absolute prove to vindicate your claim?

What claim? Is your evidence incontrovertible?

SenatePresdo:
Even if it was only a person that made such claims, you mostly likely would not have accepted it without proves.

Its only an unintelligent person would think that anything that happens in this cosmos must have prove, and if the prove cannot be provided, that means it never happened.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. No one has provided any evidence that is extraordinary and INCONTROVERTIBLE.

felixomor:
And I will wager on "placebo" too.

Knock yourself out.

felixomor:
Good, also the answer is yes.

Now Imagine me going to google and checking facts to argue with u about placebo and asking if u av heard about it before.
How does it feel, not good, i guess?

Only if the facts are false. I get a lot of things via google. I bet there is nothing in any of your textbooks that cannot be assessed through google. As a matter of fact, I'll wager that the reverse is the case.