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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 2:14pm On Sep 12, 2013

Bratking: my god see finishing. E don tey wey i no sey potholes dey bible but i never knew e boku reach this level oo!

Funny guy

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Christianity Etc › Re: Things Common To Theist And Atheist by RayMcBlue(m): 2:08pm On Sep 12, 2013

joel lala: And another wise man too once said 'The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." ..

He was a King.

A certain atheist once said "I refuse to believe in a god that would send me to hell just for not believing in him."

He was a King.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Things Common To Theist And Atheist by RayMcBlue(m): 1:31pm On Sep 12, 2013

A wise man once said "I only pray that a god will appear before me so that I will have the pleasure of spitting in his face!"

He was an atheist.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Things Common To Theist And Atheist by RayMcBlue(m): 1:22pm On Sep 12, 2013

tobechi74: Atheist are not saying God doesnt exist. They are only saying they dont accept that God exists because the evidence provided isnt convincing enough.

Since you are modifying your original arguments, then allow me to modify mine.

Atheism may have started out on the foundation of god skepticism, but it has since taken root as various holy books such as, Holy Bible, Torah, Quran and Hadith that most theist based the core of their faith in, had long been scientifically debunked.

My point is modern atheism doesn't care about the existence of god anymore, it's all about thinking for one self and making ones own decisions without the constraint of religion.

Following that logic, Atheism doesn't believe in god(s) and would give a rat àss if god exist or not. They are masters of their own fate, so to speak.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Questions For Religious Folks. by RayMcBlue(op): 1:04pm On Sep 12, 2013

I thought at first I was sparring with an intelligent being, but your lame-brained logic about space and black being a color left me with no doubt you are not in touch with reality.

Read up, mate, then maybe we can resume where we left off.

Bye.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 12:58pm On Sep 12, 2013

Judas2013: the more we advance in intelligence the less religious we become.

True words.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 12:48pm On Sep 12, 2013

Uyi Iredia: Silence is attimes the best answer for folly.

Or maybe the only way to avoid making fool of one self! grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Questions For Religious Folks. by RayMcBlue(op): 12:41pm On Sep 12, 2013*

Uyi Iredia: So silly.

How so?

Uyi Iredia: There was always space. Assuming no space, there would still be space needed for space to exist in. Hence space is the most fundamental aspect of reality. More fundamental than matter.

Nope, you shouldn't reason like that. For a space to have always existed, then time would have to be constant, and every learned person know that time is relative.

Uyi Iredia: All quantum states we know of occur in defined regions in space called quantum fileds, this renders your earlier statement moot since quantum state presumes space.

I don't see how.

Uyi Iredia: Faster than the seed of light actually. In any case, space doesn't move. It is nothingness and nothingness can't move. Only physical things move in space (or nothingness) not otherwise. And wouldn't this your fictional space need space to be in and to move ?

You are completely missing the point.

Uyi Iredia: You think space has color. SMH. It doesn't.

True, space has no color just like black is not a color. Since space is black in coloration, then it's logical to say that space has no color.

Uyi Iredia: Yours is becoming a long-winded reply, and that started with explaining the BB.

Sorry about that, but I couldn't possibly stop halfway, lest my explanation became disjointed and inconclusive.

Uyi Iredia: In truth, space has no color. Unless you'll be mad as to say nothing has color.

Like I mentioned earlier, black is not a color, so saying that space is black doesn't make me wrong, rather it ridiculed you that is contesting the fact of the logic. Don't take my word for it, just consult Google and ask it whether black is a color or not.

I think it's irrelevant trying to justify what was already a sound theory so I will not address the rest of your post.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 12:18pm On Sep 12, 2013

[size=16pt]Finally, the Christians are speechless, Good!![/size]

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Investment › Re: Ex Nigerian Footballer, Idah Peterside Acquires TV Station In South Africa. by RayMcBlue(m): 11:48am On Sep 12, 2013

No sane person in his right mind would pay for a cable tv subscription and choose instead to watch a Christian program out of all the goodies on offer. #Justsaying.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Questions For Religious Folks. by RayMcBlue(op): 11:35am On Sep 12, 2013

Uyi Iredia: @ Ray McBlue: If you think it wfong to assume God is uncaused, what exempts energy from this reasoning.

Energy flows around us. We are energies ourselves, etc

God on the other hand hides in the imagination of man. In a scientific world he is a myth.

Simply put, energy can be calculated, proven. Your god is scientifically null and void.

Not a smart comparison at all.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 11:21am On Sep 12, 2013

Ymodulus: Mind u. I will be bringing my contradictions soon.

Looking forward to it, mate.

Meanwhile, my next topic will be focusing on Islam.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 11:10am On Sep 12, 2013

RationalDude: Madam, why don't you quote the op and then point out the verses that were not properly translated?
A god that can't be proven to exist? "God" is just an idea in our minds and um...... the bible contains zero good news.

She's just grasping at straws. Trying desperately to stay afloat, even though it's futile.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 11:08am On Sep 12, 2013

nnofaith: why would an all knowing god bother himself with a flimsy thing like proof reading!

Exactly!

Your sarcasm is epic!

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 10:54am On Sep 12, 2013

HumbledbYGrace: No m saying that people are interpreting in wrongly....the op just came here with his contradictions, did he study the bible in ancient greek also? The english bible have references fron its original language.

Even in the original language, the content and meaning remained largely the same, so what's your point?

HumbledbYGrace: It takes a fool to say there is no God, it takes a wise man to thoroughly study the good news.

How about this; It takes a wise man to say there is no God, it takes a fool to believe there is God without some semblance of proof.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 10:42am On Sep 12, 2013

Judas2013: it takes less effort to enslave people mentally but a mountain of effort to free their minds. Don't forget most of them were brainwashed while they were still babies.

True...but it doesn't justify that they should be allowed to wallow in their ignorance, lest they infect you with it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 10:33am On Sep 12, 2013

Judas2013: believe me they are not worth it bro, they are blind people....

Some don't know that, though. Makes point of creating this topic worth the effort.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 10:28am On Sep 12, 2013

Judas2013: @ Ray_bacblue dont let the christian hunt you with guns. you just got on their nerves lol

Lol, I only want them to see the truth, that's all. wink

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 10:27am On Sep 12, 2013

Judas2013: holy bible means bible full of holes

An understatement, mate!

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 10:26am On Sep 12, 2013

HumbledbYGrace: Sometimes the problem is not the people but English seems to give people problems.

What are you saying?

Are you implying that in during the course of it's English language translation, it lost some of it's relevancy?

Please, kindly elaborate.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Things Common To Theist And Atheist by RayMcBlue(m): 9:52am On Sep 12, 2013

jayriginal: But atheism is not necessarily saying that God does not exist.

This is exactly what atheism is saying. In fact it's the foundation on which atheism was formed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 9:42am On Sep 12, 2013*

Errors in the Creation

Aside from the obvious contradictions,
there are just a lot of things in this short section of the Bible that just doesn't make sense.

In Genesis 1:1 it says "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.", then later on in Genesis 1:8 it says "And God called the firmament Heaven."

So did he create heaven twice? Are there two heavens? undecided

I thought maybe the first statement was just saying what God did, then it was going to explain in detail how he created heaven and earth...but in Genesis 1:2 the earth has already been created. So I have to believe that there was a double creation of heaven.

On the first day, God created light. No problem there, right? But God didn't create any sources of light until the forth day. So did he only invent the concept of light on the first day, but no light was around until the forth day?

If he had light, as well as darkness, and light and day...then why did he have to make the sun, moon, and stars? No matter how you look at the subject of light during the creation, it just doesn't add up.

Sunlight brings us to another problem. We know the sun was created on the forth day...but plants were created on the third day. We know plants require sunlight to live, so why did God make these things in this backwards order?

Now if we take the literal time frame, and a day in creation as being a 24 hour period, the plant thing isn't a real problem...plants can survive 24 hours. But then the whole creation story loses credibility...who really believes the universe was created in less than a week? Not even most creationist believe this one.

That is why many people say that a day in the creation was 1,000 to 7,000 years (depending on who you ask). Name a plant that can live 7,000 years with perfect
conditions...much less with no sunlight.

Its amazing that anyone would try to get this stuff taught in class as a fact, do you believe it, with all of these errors? Be honest, church folks.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 9:32am On Sep 12, 2013

[size=16pt]Two Accounts of Creation[/size]

If there is one thing to be said about the Bible, its that it doesn't waste time in contradicting itself. Technically the very first word of the Bible is the beginning of the first contradiction.

The very first thing the Bible covers is creation, and there are two accounts of creation in Genesis...two different accounts.

The first account starts at Genesis 1:1 and ends at Genesis 2:3.

The second account begins at Genesis
2:4 and ends at Genesis 2:25.

Now let's see how they differ.

The order of creation in the first account.

1. Heaven and Earth

2. Light (night and day)

3. Sky

4. Plants

5. Sun, moon, and stars

6. Fish and birds

7. Land animals

8. Man and woman at the same time

The order of creation in the second account

1. Man

2. Plants

3. Birds and land animals

4. Woman

There is a reason to this, as there is for many of the errors in the Bible. The first account originated in a time when man wanted to believe that they were God's pride and joy. That this world was made for mankind. God created everything, and made this nice little place for him to put his masterpiece...man.

The second account is from a time when men were seeking dominance over women, and justified it by saying man was God's original creation, and worked with God in
naming things. Then women were made from a left over part of a man. Women always get dumped on in the Bible.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Recommend Threads For Frontpage by RayMcBlue(m): 9:16am On Sep 12, 2013

Front page material, obviously; https://www.nairaland.com/1435868/bible-babble-contradictions-holy-bible

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 9:13am On Sep 12, 2013

C'mon, Christians, come and explain why your Holy book is full of holes and contradictions.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Things Common To Theist And Atheist by RayMcBlue(m): 9:10am On Sep 12, 2013

Atheism refer to persons lacking religious belief or faith. An atheist denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings, while a theist believes in the existence of god or gods. There is no common ground whatsoever between the two.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 8:55am On Sep 12, 2013

FOLYKAZE: If it for contradiction in the bible, this thread is moving to 100 pages

For real!

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 8:54am On Sep 12, 2013

ooman: xtianity and xtians are nothing any serious minded would take seriously. Every religion is a shame and should be ignored.

The dumb african xtians and muslims dont know they are modern slaves of the jews and arabs....

Exactly

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 8:53am On Sep 12, 2013*

Baasha died in the 27th year of Asa's reign!

1 Kings 15:33- In the third year of Asa king of Judah began Baasha the son of Ahijah to reign over all Israel in Tirzah, twenty and four years

But then Baasha came against Judah AND built Ramah 9 years after he died!

2 Chronicles 16:1- In the six and thirtieth year of the reign of Asa Baasha king of Israel came up against Judah, and built Ramah , to the intent that he might let none go out or come in to Asa king of Judah.

2 Samuel 24:1- And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against
Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

The contraction

1 Chronicles 21:1- And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

2 Kings 24:8- Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign , and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

The contraction

2 Chronicles 36:9- Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign , and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

There are a lot more from where those came from, but since my point's already been made and proven, I will pause here...for now.

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Christianity Etc › Bible Babble - Contradictions In The Holy Bible by RayMcBlue(op): 8:22am On Sep 12, 2013*

The Holy Bible is considered by many the infallible word of God. It was not just written by man, but rather written by God through man.

This book is the cornerstone to the Christian and Judaic religions, without this book, they have nothing to hold their beliefs to. With these two things in mind, one would think that it would have to be one heck of a book. Not only 100% correct in every manner, but chock full of
wonderful teachings, pleasant miracles by the all loving God, but scientifically tested and proven as a source of answers to the unknown mysteries of our earth and universe as well.

Well as you are about to see, there are a great many errors, contradictions, and misrepresentations as far as the scientific accuracy of the Bible. The stories are often
jumbled and don't match the other books. Don't just take my word for it, as always I encourage everyone to read the Bible to check what I say.

Genesis 2:17- But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Then it contradicts itself with;
Genesis 5:5- And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Does God not have respect to people?
Romans 2:11- For there is no respect of persons with God.

Acts 10:34- Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.

Or does he?
Exodus 2:25- And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

2 Kings 13:23- And the LORD was gracious unto them, and had compassion on them, and had respect unto them, because of his covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and would not destroy them, neither cast he them from his presence as yet.

God tempts no one
James 1:13- Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

God does tempt!
Genesis 22:1- And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

And why would Jesus ask this, if God tempts no one?
Matthew 6:13- And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Israel shall be thy name
Genesis 35:10- And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name : and he called his name Israel.

Jacob! Jacob!
Genesis 46:2- And God spake unto Israel in the visions of the night, and said, Jacob, Jacob. And he said, Here am I.

Whatever you do, don't make graven images. Don't you dare!
Exodus 20:4- Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

But let me tell you the proper way to make some graven images.
Exodus 25:19- And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

More contractions coming right up...stay tuned.

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Forum Games › Re: Word Analogy (Solved). by RayMcBlue(op): 8:41pm On Sep 11, 2013

[size=16pt]All Solved[/size]

Forum Games › Re: Word Analogy (Solved). by RayMcBlue(op): 8:39pm On Sep 11, 2013

Solved

Dancing off- kilt er in the rain.

A) Of the human body

B) Of a georgraphical landscape

C) Article of clothing

D) I don't know

The hidden word is kilt.

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