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No the peace plan is great actually. And for the first time if Trump is actually able to achieve his has earned my eternal respect. But the Jews in Israel today are European dejects who traveled to the middle east to create a state. That is an undisputable fact! If you like argue with you ancestors. Moreover, I don't have an issue with the Israelis. They are there to stay and are not going anywhere. However, they should also recognize that Palestinians are indigenous to that land and have a right to self determination.

If not for religious inductrinations, Africans would be the people who should actually understand what the Palestinians are being subjected to because the same Europeans colonized and enslaved us.

I often imagine if this were to happen in my village. Someone from Chad or Ghana just comes and tell me to move out of my house that God has promised him my house 3,000 years ago. I honestly can't imagine how I would react.

NothingDoMe:
Jews are Jews and crying won't change the fact that Israel is a Nation while Palestine is not.

See how all the world leaders are rallying behind Trump's peace plan already. 😄

Continue to dey wine yourself. This is the heritage of all Israeli prime ministers since people from Europeans created a colony in Palestine. So 4 are from Ukraine, 3 are from Poland, 2 from Belarus and 1 with mixed Russian and Ukrainian parents. So tell me how it is my dear that these people are owners of Palestinian land? Because the same Bible that said Fish swallowed someone for 3 days and carried him to another village said so? Is not me you are fooling it's yourselves.

Prime Ministers of Israel

1. David Ben-Gurion. Born in Plonsk, Poland. Terms: 1948–1954, 1955–1963

2. Moshe Sharett. Born; Kherson, Ukraine. Term: 1954–1955

3. Levi Eshkol. Born: Orativ, Ukraine. Term: 1963–1969

4. Golda Meir. Born: Kyiv, Ukraine. Term: 1969–1974

5. Yitzhak Rabin : Ukrainian-Jewish (both parents from Ukraine). 1974–1977, 1992–1995

6. Menachem Begin. Born: Brest, Belarus. Term: 1977–1983

7. Yitzhak Shamir. Born: Ruzhany, Belarus. Terms: 1983–1984, 1986–1992

8. Shimon Peres. Born: Poland (now Belarus). Terms: 1984–1986, 1995–1996

9. Ehud Barak. Heritage: Lithuanian-Jewish (father), Polish-Jewish (mother). Term: 1999–2001

10. Ariel Sharon. Heritage: Lithuanian-Jewish (father), Belarusian-Jewish (mother). Term: 2001–2006

11. Ehud Olmert. Heritage: Russian-Jewish / Ukrainian-Jewish (parents emigrated from Eastern Europe). Term: 2006–2009

12. Benjamin Netanyahu. Heritage: Polish-Jewish (father), Lithuanian-Jewish (family roots). Terms: 1996–1999, 2009–2021, 2022–present

See as I just waste my time dey respond to nonsense.

NothingDoMe:
These people you call owners are Arabs from neighbouring countries. They can trace their roots to those countries sef.

The owners if the land have come back for their land.

So according to you a nation only begins to exist when it has currency, flag and borders? That means you are also saying that the European were right to enslave and colonize us in Africa because we didn't have flags and currencies. It will not kill you to just step out of your religious inductrinations and think for yourself from time to time.

INJESUSNAME:
All the questions I asked are based on history, give me the answers as u know the history of Palestine.

Go and read history. Google the "the Balfour declaration of 1917" and read it maybe you will understand. But if you believe in the Bible don't bother because you will still not be able to see pass your religious sentiment.

INJESUSNAME:
Which country are you talking about? Can u show the borders of this country? Name its leaders, the currency the country was using , flag, anthem , it's neighbors? Etc.

Stop talking like that o. This thing goes beyond religion. Its not easy to be occupied by foreigners in your own country. The UN saw it fit to move people from all over Europe and dash them another mans country, it is only natural for the indigenes to feel disdain towards their occupiers, and if it were to happen in your own village you will understand it more. Am not saying Hamas is right to attack civilians in Israel. They just have to swallow the bitter pill of living with the Israelis in peace because they are there to stay.

NothingDoMe:
Israel has peace deals with multiple Arab nations.

The palestinians are strongly influenced by Iran to hate Israel because they want to claim Jerusalem as their holy site to rival Mecca.

Ah! They should accept o at least for the sake of their people. The Israelis and Palestinians must learn to tolerate one another no matter how difficult it is, that's is the only forward.

NothingDoMe:
HAMAS will never agree to this.

They want to rule Gaza and continue their lifelong mission of attempting to erase Israel.

They'll sabotage the deal again like they've done before. Trump and Bibi will be like, "See? We told you so!"

No be to recognize o. If there is no body to enforce these declaration then they may as well just keep quiet.

[quote author=Uprightness100 post=136824046]How it is possible that a fellow human being is happy that another mans home is burning is one of the things that I just can't even begin to comprehend.

As time passes I understand that media is a powerful tool for public manipulation and Nairaland is complicit.

Mr righteousness! I understand that organized religion has conquered your capacity for rational thinking , but how it is possible that a human being can live with so much hate for a fellow human being as much as you do is beyond me.

Righteousness2:
When you see leaders of so called sophisticated nations using their hands to destroy themselves, you understand that when an individual or Nation ISOLATE GOD ALMIGHTY, their sense of reasoning depreciates retrogressivly.


Britain on a SUICIDAL Path

The British Home Secretary announced that students from Gaza will be given a fast-track visa process to study in the UK.


Good luck with that!

The biggest mistake Iran will ever make is to give up their nuclear program. Any country that doesn't have nuclear weapon will always be defenceless against countries that do. And the fact that Israel could just wake up one morning and attack them should be a wake up call.
For example, Russia only attacks Ukraine with impunity because they don't have a nuclear weapon. While Pakistan is only safe from India because they have nuclear weapon.

Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein only lost their lives because they gave up their nuclear program while Kim Jung un is only left alone because he has one. You see the trend?

So for the Iranians to give up their nuclear program, means they are very draft and they haven't learnt their lesson, which am sure they aren't.

I support no one, certainly not Hamas. Since i left religion, I started seeing the sanctity of every human life regardless of the god they serve. So when you say you will be happy if a city of 2 million human beings is turned into a desert, it certainly makes me feel sad that a fellow human is capable of feeling that way.

Ten06:
It seems that my comment really gave you serious pain. That is what I wanted to achieve, because your support for hamas and their terrorism should have a limit

This one too na human being like this. Religion really do una something.

Ten06:
There are people who will be happy and satisfied if Isreal can turn Gaza to desert, free of terrorist. Person like me is among

It never ceases to amaze me how nairalanders are always sympathetic to Ukraine when they are attacked by Russia but you get the exact opposite reaction when Israel attacks Gaza.

You just have to come to nairaland comment section and see how much religious inductrinations have sucked out every drop of humanity away from its followers.

And there are people who still think he is only rich because he came from a rich family or the government singled him out and gave him wealth

The Israeli military says it is calling up about 60,000 reservists ahead of a planned ground offensive to capture and occupy all of Gaza City.


An Israeli military official said five divisions would be involved in the planned offensive
The Israeli military says it is calling up about 60,000 reservists ahead of a planned ground offensive to capture and occupy all of Gaza City.

A military official said the reservists would report for duty in September and that most of the troops mobilised for the offensive would be active-duty personnel.

They added that troops were already operating in the Zeitoun and Jabalia areas as part of the preparations for the plan, which Defence Minister Israel Katz approved on Tuesday and will be put to the security cabinet later this week.

Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza City are expected to be ordered to evacuate and head to shelters in southern Gaza.

Many of Israel's allies have condemned the plan, with French President Emmanuel Macron warning on Wednesday that it "can only lead to disaster for both peoples and risks plunging the entire region into a cycle of permanent war".

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) meanwhile said further displacement and an intensification of hostilities "risk worsening an already catastrophic situation" for Gaza's 2.1 million population.

Israel's government announced its intention to conquer the entire Gaza Strip after indirect talks with Hamas on a ceasefire and hostage release deal broke down last month.

Mediators Qatar and Egypt are trying to secure an agreement before the offensive begins and have presented a new proposal for a 60-day truce and the release of around half of the 50 hostages held in Gaza, which Hamas said it had accepted on Monday.

Israel has not yet submitted a formal response, but Israeli officials insisted on Tuesday that they would no longer accept a partial deal and demanded a comprehensive one that would see all the hostages released. Only 20 of them are believed to be still alive.

Israel demands release of all Gaza hostages, casting doubt on ceasefire proposal
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The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement that orders calling up 60,000 reservists were issued on Wednesday as part of the preparations for "the next phase of Operation Gideon's Chariots" - the ground offensive that it launched in May and has seen it take control of at least 75% of Gaza.

In addition, 20,000 reservists who had already been called up would receive a notice extending their current orders, it added.

The military official said senior commanders had approved the plan for what they described as a "gradual, precise and targeted operation in and around Gaza City", with troops entering some areas where they had not gone previously.

Five divisions were expected to take part in the offensive, the official added.

The Haaretz newspaper quoted Defence Minister Katz as saying on Tuesday: "Once the operation is completed, Gaza will change its face and will no longer look as it did in the past."

He also reportedly approved a plan to "accommodate" Gaza City residents in the south of the territory, including the coastal al-Mawasi area, where the military official said field hospitals would be established.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the military's objectives are to secure the release of all the hostages held by Hamas and "complete the defeat" of the Palestinian armed group.

Satellite image shows armoured vehicles in part of Gaza City
The IDF also announced on Wednesday that the Givati Brigade had resumed operations in the northern town of Jabalia and on the outskirts of Gaza City, where it said they were "dismantling military infrastructures above and below ground, eliminating terrorists, and consolidating operational control".

It said civilians were being told to move south for their safety "to mitigate the risk of harm".

A spokesman for Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence agency, Mahmoud Bassal, told AFP news agency on Tuesday that the situation was "very dangerous and unbearable" in the city's Zeitoun and Sabra neighbourhoods, where he said "shelling continues intermittently".

The agency reported that Israeli strikes and fire had killed 21 people across the territory on Wednesday. They included three children and their parents whose home in the Badr area of Shati refugee camp, west of Gaza City, was bombed, it said.

The IDF meanwhile said 15 Palestinian fighters had attempted to infiltrate one of its positions in the southern city of Khan Younis on Wednesday. The IDF said one Israeli soldier was severely injured and 10 of the attackers were killed during the incident. Hamas's military wing said it had attacked the position and that at least one fighter carried out a suicide bombing.

Reuters Palestinians inspect the site of an Israeli strike in Gaza City, northern Gaza (20 August 2025)Reuters
The UN human rights office said it had recorded 54 Israeli attacks on residential buildings in Gaza City since 8 August
The UN and non-governmental organisations operating in Gaza have warned of the humanitarian impact of a new Israeli offensive.

"The Israeli plan to intensify military operations in Gaza City will have a horrific humanitarian impact on people already exhausted, malnourished, bereaved, displaced, and deprived of basics needed for survival," they said in a joint statement on Monday.

"Forcing hundreds of thousands to move south is a recipe for further disaster and could amount to forcible transfer," they added. Forcible transfer of a civilian population is a serious violation of international humanitarian law.

They also said the areas of the south where displaced residents were expected to move were "overcrowded and ill-equipped to sustain human survival at scale".

The ICRC said on Wednesday that a further intensification of military operations threatened "an irreversible humanitarian crisis" and that the lives of the hostages might also be put at risk. Some of them are believed to be held in Gaza City.

The UN human rights office said hundreds of families had already been forced to flee eastern and southern Gaza City over the past few days, while others reportedly remained trapped, completely cut off from food, water and medical supplies.

It also noted that Israel was telling displaced Palestinians to move to al-Mawasi even though it continued to carry out deadly strikes there.

The World Food Programme meanwhile warned that malnutrition in Gaza had crossed emergency levels and was "rising fast", with more children and mothers showing severe symptoms. The UN agency said it was scaling up treatment but that "needs outpace the response".

Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry also reported that another three people had died as a result of malnutrition over the previous 24 hours, raising the total number of such deaths since the start of the war to 269, including 112 children.

The UN has said it needs unimpeded humanitarian access across all of Gaza, with aid entering at scale through all possible crossings. It has said incoming supplies remain far from sufficient because of Israeli restrictions.

Israeli military body Cogat, which controls the entry of aid into Gaza, said in response to the WFP's statement that hundreds of lorry loads of supplies were being delivered daily and that food prices were "plummeting". It has also previously accused the health ministry of misrepresenting deaths from pre-existing medical conditions as malnutrition.

The Israeli military launched a campaign in Gaza in response to the Hamas-led attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken hostage.

At least 62,122 people have been killed in Gaza since then, according to the territory's health ministry. The ministry's figures are quoted by the UN and others as the most reliable source of statistics available on casualties.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7417pl3ddpo

Going through comments on NL, just makes you realize how much hatred religious inductrinations have implanted in the minds of their followers.

Even animals are not safe from Israel. And the West Bank in question is in Palestinian territory, but Israel is preparing it for further settlement.

CodeTemplarr:
Instead of all these, offer to take in 200,000 selected Gaza elements into Germany. The survival of a monster is what these people are after. Many of Isreal's ally dont wannt to really support them. They are sympathetic to the gaza cause.

Why doesn't Israel take them. You are not much of a human being if you're not sympathetic to the Gaza struggle for survival. If the roles were reversed and Arabs were the ones doing to the Jews what they are now doing to the Palestinians you'll probably have a better realization. Keep religious inductrinations aside and see things with the eyes of a rational human being.

Better late than never. Nevertheless, history will repeat itself. The powerful takes what belongs to the weak, this is human nature, we are not much different from animals as we would like to think. Israel will ultimately annex Gaza and they have the support of one of the most powerful countries in the world. So it's only a matter of time.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is to propose fully reoccupying the Gaza Strip when he meets his security cabinet, Israeli media say.

"The die has been cast. We're going for the full conquest of the Gaza Strip – and defeating Hamas," local journalists quote a senior official as saying.

Responding to reports that the army chief and other military leaders oppose the plan, the unnamed official said: "If that doesn't work for the chief of staff, he should resign."

The families of hostages fear such plans could endanger their loved ones, with 20 out of 50 believed to be alive in Gaza, while polls suggest three in four Israelis instead favour a ceasefire deal to return them.

Many of Israel's close allies would also condemn such a move as they push for an end to the war and action to alleviate a humanitarian crisis.

Within Israel, hundreds of retired Israeli security officials, including former heads of intelligence agencies, issued a joint letter to US President Donald Trump on Monday, calling for him to pressure Netanyahu to end the war.

One of the signatories, ex-domestic intelligence agency chief Ami Ayalon, told the BBC that further military action would be futile.

"From the military point of view, [Hamas] is totally destroyed. On the other hand, as an ideology it is getting more and more power among the Palestinian people, within the Arab street around us, and also in the world of Islam.

"So the only way to defeat Hamas's ideology is to present a better future."

The latest developments come after indirect talks with Hamas on a ceasefire and hostage deal broke down and Palestinian armed groups released three videos of two Israeli hostages looking weak and emaciated.

The footage of Rom Blaslavski and Evyatar David, both kidnapped from the Nova music festival on 7 October 2023, has shocked and appalled Israelis. David is shown digging what he says is his own grave in an underground tunnel.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqv2qjg5vvo

If this happens, anybody that contest against Tinubu in 2027 should just know he is wasting his money.

Let peace rain. The middle east needs to get it's act together. The Israelis and Muslims have proven to be very violent people, but they both have to realize that none of them is going anywhere for the other.

The British created much of this problem similar to the ones we see in Africa today, through forced marriages of different ethnic and racial groups. How do you create a country inside another man's country.

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This is a really interesting development.