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Emmanystone:
Like i said, we all have ancestors. They are the 'Spirits' of the departed forefathers. The problem begins when you begin to ascribe to them powers which they didn't have while alive. When you begin to offer sacrifices to them, when you begin to adulate and Revere them. When you begin to appease them hoping or asking them to bless your land with this and that. Evoking them to do this or that for you.

Have you asked yourself this question? What powers did these forefathers possessed as humans while alive, and where did they all of a sudden get the powers you ascribe to them now that they are dead?

Putting it clearly; 'what powers do you have now while alive, to be placed in a position of a god when you die? When you die, you'll become a forefather, and the living will begin to pour libation, calling on you for this and or that. How will you come about the power they will ascribe to you? Do the dead possess power at death?


Only Christianity exposes satan that is why he hates Christianity with venom. But for Christianity, satan will keep men in perpetual bondage of darkness. Demons/fallen angels have been masquerading as gods to men in all the cultures of men and in different ages. Only the light of the gospel reveals who and what they truly are.

Demons/familiar spirits possessed our forefathers just like they possess the pagans now, after their dead, these demons departs from the hosts, taking another body of even a baby in the womb as host, when that child is born, the memories of the old man who had been long dead gets downloaded into the new child, and the child will begin to say things grandpa did. because you don't know what happened, you call it 'reincarnation'. Lies. Satanic antics to keep you bound.

The Spirits parading as forefathers are demons/familiar spirits. Our forefathers never possessed special powers while alive, no one gave them powers at death


They are demons/fallen angels/familiar spirits sir. It has nothing to do with morphology (words). It has everything to do with their mode of operations. How they act.


Bad reference. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Daniel, David etc are our ancestors, yes. The question remains, what special powers did they possesses on their own to put them in the place of gods at death?


1. Do the Jews and Christians ascribe powers to these ancestors? No.
2. Do the Jews/Christians call these men for help? No
3. Do the Jews/Christians see these men as conduit to YHWH? Hell No.
4. Do they pour libation, offer sacrifices, and worship these men? No.

The Jew's ancestors are not gods to them pls.


Again, it's not the same. What your ancestors are to you, is worlds apart from what the ancestor are to the Jews.

That is where you are wrong. The demons parading as the ancestors misleads you, especially when it concerns your future. You are told there's no devil. They make you believe devil is only a myth propagated by the Christians. You believe them.

In ATR, your gods only do you good except you default. Even after that, after appeasements, it ends there. In ATR, no justice for the oppressed. No recompense for the wicked(maybe there's no wickedness in ATR?).
But the question you have not asked yourself is, 'why all these evil in the world? What happens to those who are so heartless as to behead another human for whatever reason. What will happen to a man or woman who in a quest to make money, kills a pregnant woman, cuts her open, takes the baby in her, pounds it into pulp to make money rituals?

In ATR, when you die, you become an ancestor automatically, since there's no hellfire or an authority that'll demands from you an accounts of what you did, what happens to the evil committed by you while alive?

When you think critically, you'll see that you have been deceived about your future. There is a day for accountability. No man will escape it.

Life is a Seed in itself, and everything we do, we sow seeds, when Seeds are sown, they bear fruits. Whatsoever a man sows, he shall reap it. Believe it or not.


@bolded. What they accomplished in the past for you?

Show respect to the dead? They are dead and awaiting to receive their rewards of how they lived on earth. Why do you think they need our respect?

No, i am not disrespecting my forefathers. My forefathers Bad reference. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Daniel, David etc are our ancestors, yes. The question remains, what special powers did they possesses on their own to put them in the place of gods at death? When it gets to the dead, it because idol worship.

Satan is exposed.

Interesting, so you are a descendant of Abraham Noah Jacob etc very interesting!

Aaronsrod:
Let us pray God will send a plague to destroy those who do not seek deliverance. We pray their children be consumed by disease and their childrens children will be confined in the apartments of the depraved. Let us also destroy their shrines and remove all stain and memory of our wicked ancestors from this land forever.

We pray that one day Nigeria will be found worthy to stand and serve at the side of Gods people, Israel!

Amen.

we shall be born again and become descendants of the holy Jews.

it will be a thing of joy to visits their holy lands so we shall be cleaned from the curses of our evil land....

winner01:
Lol, I felt the same way too when my uncle told me God is a lie. I wish I could slap sense into his head. I started reading all materials I could find supporting and refuting the existence of God. Today, I just smile and tell critics, I've heard this one before.

it's simple psychology, a man's delusions tend to fight back once threatened to restore him satisfied to his initial state of delusions...


And yes he is right, it is insane for anyone to believe childish myths of talking walking snakes and that your ancestors and saviours are jews....it is a slave mentality

otem otem otem otem !!! king of words, keep it coming

shame to a slave race..

You can go on to name your children after the Arabs and the Jews, go on to fight for their heritage. You will never be respected in the world until you your slave born religious mentality changes.

people die everyday, his death has nothing to do with your MMM.

My only compassion is for those who mocked him and will die poor and at a younger age than Mavrodi

OtemAtum, pls avail us with more of your worldly music and poems.

The best school in Nigeria but obviously not among the best in the world

We thank yahweh for proving to us that he exist by allowing her to have an accident then saving her life so she can testify of his infinite mercies and love

khiaa:
You have to realize that those devils in Israel are not God's anointed, they are imposters, they are the synagog of satan. They worship the Talmud, which teaches them to hate black people. They are not of God but Satan.

they have been racist from the onset...even the bible you read is all about racism and ethnicity. they call themselves God chosen people and the rest gentiles. They committed genocide with the help of their evil god destroying both young and old. They discriminated the samaritans.


Most annoying, they mocked the colour of skin of the black man. It is so clear in the bible but you all pretend not to see it and sometimes twist the passages to satisfy your religious delusions.

Jeremiah 13 23


Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Aaronsrod:
I was right. You are an unbeliever. The curse is already upon you.

So it has been written. So it shall be done in the name of the Lord God of Israel!

Amen! God of Israel must not be mocked!

GOFRONT:
Hmm.....whom God loves die young
Goodbye Kid

I hope God loves you soon

kenturkish:
What the hell did you just post you retard? That's not deut 6 vs 10

Deut 13 vs 6-10...apologies

she's evil, kill her

Deuteronomy 13 vs 6 10


If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people.
Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the LORD your God,

The elites know the religion is a means of control and power. Those at the top claim will a religion just for camouflage, they know better but pretend to belong.

Awesome.
one of the reasons I like going gong to church

felixomor:
So sanity is defined by ancestors wow? lol
At this point. You are completely mentally unfit to such comparison. Sorry. Move on

I'm not surprised that you have comprehension problem..what more would one expect from a religious robot

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ifenes:
And again millions of blacks are in their churches worshipping a Jewish Jesus. So perhaps it takes only real humans to see that.

and many have jewish/Arab names, believing they are descendants of Jews/Arabs in the persons of Noah and Abraham....and yet they go crazy when you call them black slaves...


well a mad man never knows he is mad, such is the way of black slaves with religion

Akinlady:
Walahi..... never have u read such stupidity. And I thought I had seen so much on Nairaland. Please YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE. A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD. GOD HAS GIVEN THE BLOOD OF HIS SON FOR UR ALL. WE ARE ALL EQUAL IN HIS SIGHT. This just reminds me of how some stupid illiterates in our offices call their white boss master. GOD help Africa from this slavery mentalitY.

Indirectly, Yahweh delivered us using the Jews by sending his only son through them to save us....u the real slave here for believing such bullish.it and again you are not really smart/ intelligent not to have seen the sacarsm in his comment

felixomor:
Do u worship our ancestors.
If u don't, you have no point dear...

I worship no one, but those who worship their ancestors are obviously more sane than you who worship the ancestors of others...

winner01:
are you no longer an evolved monkey?

If you still reason this Way, then you are a proof that education does not equate knowledge...such a disappointment

Dotng:
This explanation has no bearing with what Christians believe. Your explanation is much more relevant to African traditional religion, folklore and Middle Eastern religions.

and what is wrong with African traditional religion you enslaved descendant of Jews....your slave master just called you a monkey

is it the one that may made love to Mary Or The one that killed Ananias and Sapphira

Gods chosen people...the jews hate us, the Arabs despise us....yet we believe they are our ancestors, worshpping their gods and demonizing our ancestors...


How market, KingEbukasBlog, winner01, Butterflyleo, felixomor etc all yee descendants of Abraham and Noah.....

Aaronsrod:
We must be silent before the wisdom of His Chosen people. We cannot condemn Gods anointed.

If they call us monkeys and cut our throats then we must think ourselves blessed.

To die in Israel is a blessing indeed!

The greatest gift you can offer your kids, as you grow older and get married is opportunity to learn programming, not because they need to make money from it, but like Mathematics, Programming is the tool you need to open up certain faculties of your mind and certain levels of neurotransmission to understand what the Universe is about.

There is no way a purely spiritual person can understand, and the funny thing is that you create your realities, so if you have a picture of heaven in your head, you will find yourself in such a place was you alter your consciousness.

There are those who will swear and cry that they have been to heaven in their OBEs, but then it is their mental construct, which has become real in the lower astral plane.

This world is made of real stuff, real locations, real people, and so it is in the lower inner worlds before you access the pure spirit world and you my friends, can access all these places with your mind.

You do not need OBE experience really, you need to know more about your mind and frequences as against the contours of Time and Space.

AS you step out of the continuum of time and space, it is eternal permanence of a Conscious Spirit Energy. That is where you must access often to get inspiration to materialize excellent lives.


You do not have to be a slave for another human who pays you wages for your time, your time is yours to keep but you sold your hours of 9 to 5 to another Human and then you gladdens your heart that you have a job. Nope, it is not a job, you just sold your time to another and your sweat to another and you stay in compartmentalized job all your life and never explore other things.

@ bolded, by far the most intelligent thing ive read on nairaland in a long time

divinehand2003:
I smell witchcraft or marine spirit demonic manipulation in her household. They need deliverance ooooo..

Think intelligently, the world has left you behind....

Africans populating with no resources nor plans for the kids they birth... Only animals should be equated with those who manufacture children only to abandon them

TheUpsetGirl:
I really don't understand how broke guys manage to summon Guts and start wooing a lady.... broke guys don't deserve to live, they should be slaughtered... I wonder why a lady will accept to date a broke guy in this 21st century or the guys using some kind of magic or something?... I have a male friend who's broke, when I say broke I mean this dude is super broke but how he manages to woo some ladies in town baffles me.... sometimes I do call these ladies as my fellow ladies and advice them only for them to go and tell the broke dude.. ..how can a normal girl agree to date a broke dude in this present age?? magic or what

what's your definition of broke...cus right now I am broke but I can still fund your flight ticket and take you out for a date conveniently...

It's just your mentality....you need to evolve and be free from poverty

interesting.

DrPurple:
FTC.
In Just Five Month Of Joining Nairaland (this Means You Can Achieve Anything Within A Short Period Of Time If You Are DETERMINED And PERSISTENT).

people only celebrate ftc when the thread reaches front page...your ftc for now is irrelevant