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These thread that used to be fun and educative turn to be boring because of high price of feed, I guess people have quit like me

Beautiful creature

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Thank you boss, I got my birds very early today. Although I met 50 chicks inside two carton instead of 51.
Thank you boss, looking forward to order more from you soon

[quote author=Attit post=97534562]From my experience: top on the list are: AA+, Cobbs and Ross. There even a better version of Cobbs and Ross than the ones in Naija. The only challenge with Cobbs is the company who got the franchise in Nigeria. For Ross and AA+, they are both from the same company. Ross was first developed and the company who developed it is based in the US. Naturally the climate there is not hot weather. After it was successful, they cloned almost the same characteristics of Ross and put in AA+. But with o e different attribute: AA+ tolerates heat. It is why you dont see AA+ in north American and Europe. And you see it in Africa and everywhere there is high temp. You may be tempted to go for AA+ but the challenge is that they dont grow tall. Lol! I have heard many say Marshall is big and huge. But na lie. The only issue is Marshall is male line. And naturally, males eat better and grows bigger. But AA+ is short but with heavy weight. You can easily think Marshall is heavier than AA+ mere looking at it. But it is a lie. Put them on scale and you will see that it is almost insignificant. Also, Ross grow tall too. Therefore, when selling live chicken, buyers naturally pick tall chickens with full combs more. They sell faster. This is why some people pick Marshall and Ross over AA+. But if you selling processed chicken, it doesn't matter. Again Ross has a very high percentage of survival during brooding. You can easily take heat from Ross at early age and they will adapt.

In short, know your breed and give it the recommended treatment.

For sure, I am telling you that all feeds in Nigeria are craps. If you are a serious farmer, you better go and learn how to formulate. Either from the strach or by using feed concentration. When you know your breed very well, you can tweak your feed. AA+, Ross Cobbs will give you 3kg in an average of 6.5 weeks if you feed them very well the exact way the producers suggest you should. Do not ho for these useless free feed paraded around. There are vitamins minerals and nutrients you even add to feed or water that help birds to tolerate heat or cold more. It is a wide topic. [/quote
Agrited don't grow tall too.
I don't know about AA+

RIP to the monarch.
My father die, e no reach front page.
I must work hard and make it, I don't want to die cheaply like dad

1 week old Arbor Acre look like 3 days old Ros 308

aliadi2:
Hello Uche, thanks for the swift reply, i grab all you have said however neologne was talking of using black oil and something .

Pour black oil around your pen house

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If you have stocks below 100 for sale this festive period, and you want to avoid situation like last year, please start selling your birds. Market it to your friends, family, church/mosque members, club members, neighbours, go to your estate gate and be telling everyone you have chicken for sale.
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aysnoopy:
This sasso broilers, are they like normal broilers in term of fast growth?

Broiler have breed, their growth is not uniform.
But the biggest amongst them is very big with thick leg.
Though there is no much breast meat like some breed of broilers. But these Sasso grow fast, and they are heavy feeders, they are never tired of feeding.

jidestroud:
Interesting.
So far, what's your take on Sasso compared to noilers / kuroilers?

I haven't brooded Noiler/kuroiler before, but from their 3 weeks growth, I think they grow very fast.

My Sasso broilers and Foreign Turkeys are 3 weeks old.
No mortality so far.
51 Sasso
5 foreign turkeys.
Noeloge82
Jidestroud

My Sasso and Foreign Turkey are 3 weeks old

56 total birds complete

My 51 Sasso broilers and 5 foreign turkeys at 16th days.
No mortality so far

and.....

My Sasso broilers and 5 foreign turkeys are 16 days old today

MrBONE2:
OK, please what are the vaccines the chicken and turkey have received so far

I have given Lasota once, Gumboro twice. They will get the second Lasota soon and after that fowl pox and I deworm them

Can't stop laughing, someone sent this to me and says they are 6 weeks and want to sell fir Christmas

MrBONE2:
Woow,the chickens are growing well.

What abput the 5 turkeys you bought along with them

Thank you sir, the five turkeys are all good.
I used to release them on free range every morning for two hours to allow them source for leaves and to be familiar with surrounding

noeloge82:
This birds look sharp , more wins

Thank you boss, if not you and God

jidestroud:
Honestly, it goes beyond not feeding your birds in the afternoon. Do you know poultry nutrition is based on times & season? I formulate my feeds & I am very aware of what to use during the raining season, same goes for hot season. This is where knowledge of compounding your own feeds comes in.

Please can you teach us how to formulate feed?

My Sasso is two weeks old

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Jhudith:
I have to bring my predicament here because I've given the drugs for coccidia as the vet instructed and I've exhausted it, most of the birds are eating now but I still have some of them who are still inactive, they don't eat or drink, some still have brown droppings, some watery and a whitish dropping. I have 2/3 who make this noise like they wish to clear their throat and they bring out mucus and they are shaky when they stand, like the ground is shaking or they are scared to place their feets on the floor

My question is, should I go ahead to deworm irrespective of all these or find treatment to these first?

Sir, release them to open place for three days, don't bother to take them inside pen house for cage, just leave them outside for 3 days feed them very early in the morning before 9qm, don't feed them from from 10qm till 6pm.
come back and tell me how the majik work

kaycino:
I had to do a research on this sasso chicken... Never saw any colour apart from red( its actually chicken that looks like boiler/noiler). How come urs are different colours?

Sasso in Naija are mixed colours. They are actually broilers

Jhudith:
They're in an enclosed pen, but I sometimes let them out, especially when I intend disinfecting the place.
Water is almost always available for them
This past few days I let them stay out through out the day because I thought probably the pen has become stuffy for them due to the weather
I'm currently using Vita finisher though I mix with pkc, feed is always made always but I still come back to meet the feed same way.
I feed at about 6:40am, go to check their water by 12/1pm and refill feeds of the ones losing weight and about 6:30pm to feed and fix lamp and send them in.
I last gave lasota 5weeks ago, I dewormed the week after lasota was administered. Though last week when I visited the shop where I get drugs and complained to them, a vet was contacted and he said I treat coccis(5days), deworm and finally give lasota.

Follow what the vet said, I pray it worked. But if it doesn't, I will come in

Jhudith:
With regards to this post, I remembered complaining to the house that my birds were losing weights and barely eat. Last week I lost 19 birds of 9weeks old. Some has tract of blood in there dropping, some were pooing just water and white film, one even looked like it poo it's intestines. Though I treated coccis a week before. I was those to repeat the treatment again as it wasn't sufficient, which I have been doing for the past 4days but my challenge right now is the sounds some of the birds make, more like they have cough. They bring out mucus from their mouth and nose and struggle to breath. And they still don't eat. Please I need suggestions

Sir I can help you till mortality will reduced and stopped withing three days.
Are you on deep liter or free range?
is water always available 24/7?
which feed are you using?
when last did you give them Lasota?
when last did you deworm them?
what time do you feed them everyday?
Do you always make feed available?
Do you have space to allow them free range?

APPEARANCE OF FAECES IN CHICKENS AND THEIR SOLUTIONS
* Droopin with blood ~ *Coccidiosis*
* Greenish drooping ~ late stage of worms, ND Newcastle Disease, eaten not well dry materials or eaten alot green vegetables if free-ranged., fowl cholera.
* White, Milky running drooping ~ worms, gumboro disease (Infectious bursal disease) IBD.
* Brown runny drooping = E.coli infection.
* Yellow and Foaming drooping ~ Early stage of Coccidiostat.
* Black dropping ~ possibility of internal bleeding or too much of proteins.
* Clear or watery running drooping ~ stress or infection bronchitis..!
SOLUTIONS
For Coccidiosis = Toltrazuril base drug, Amprolium, Amprococ, Embacoc, Vitacox e.t.c
To deworm = Ivermectin base drugs and it also work for lice.
For Newcastle disease (ND or NCD) = laSota vaccine.
For Infectious Bursal Disease (IBD) = Gumboro vaccine.
For Fowl Cholera/Typhoid, infection bronchitis, E.coli = there are many strong Antibiotics drugs that care for these like = pure oxytetracycline (oxytet), Enro, vitacox, Doxycycline, Erythromycin e.t.c .
For Internal bleeding = you have stop and pend the Antibiotics drugs using at that period then place them on vitamins for 3-5 days. Consigning the too much of proteins, one need to amend the feed formulation by analyse and runs the test at lab, and if you're purchasing finished feed report to the supplier or change the feed.
For the stress = is likely you stressed them for particular reason, like transferring from one place to another or they have too much heat or lack of unbalanced, instability and insufficient of water or feeds. All these are highly in need of amendments then place them on vitamins to compensate.

timigreene:
Unfortunately, I don't have a weighing scale.

From the pictures, they look like Agrited