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AntiBrutus:
What did he do?

I am asking because I know how annoying men can be. Ask them one and they will answer 15. It takes patience not to slap the hell out of the average man.

Not saying what she did is right, but don't judge her till you hear her side of the story.

Do you think any normal woman will just stay and start beating her man?

Boss, shun o, some men can bring out the beast in you.

AntiBrutus:
This is the mentality that makes men behave anyhow and get away with it.

You don't beat a man? Where?

This is just factory reset.
Most men need it every now and then.

adontcare:
show respect when u talk online

doitforyou:
PROVEN facts with statistics that don't favor your biases and prejudice is false but your opinions that are NOT facts is what it is true. OKAY.

Logic: let's talk ad-nauseam about something that happens 2-10% of the time and lets proclaim as false and no need to talk about things that happen about 90% of the time.

There is no need for us to go back and forth, your prejudices are making you blind to hard facts. Anything I type you would say it's false and find a way to twist it to fit your bias, because you have been conditioned to believe and see women in a certain light. It is your prerogative to be close minded and not leave room for some doubt. I know some guys in my circle that think like you, some changed because of experiences, circumstances etc. Also, some do not change, I suspect you will not change but that's ok, the world is changing, for every one of you, there are five more guys that believe that a woman should be judged solely on the contents of her character and not by some stereotypes you get from random strangers on the internet that create posts for likes ( not you, referring to OPs). I am glad that in real life most men that I know don't think like you, it means there is hope for mankind yet.

I am bowing out. I genuinely enjoyed our discussion. I guess we path to meet on another NL topic, who knows we might agree on something.

doitforyou:
Will start with 4 because 1-3 is not pointing to any definition.

4. Honest observation:- what is an honest observation? who determines how honest an observation is? how do you conduct one? would I be right in saying the only way to conduct one is to survey a sample of women and observe how they relate with men.

5. Something actual, not invented. How do you know the pre-defined behavior you have for women is actual? and please don't say the anecdotal experiences of your friends.

6. How do you know what you believe about women is also REAL for all women? How many women have you met? No need to answer that, you haven't met enough women on which to extrapolate a pre-defined behavior of women.

7. see number 6

8. How many people do you know men and women (to make it objective) that are substantial enough to agree with your defined behavior of women to make it an OBJECTIVE CONSENSUS? if we limit your defined behavior of women to Nigeria women alone, there are tens of millions of adult women in Nigeria and about as much men. What percentage of adult Nigerian do you know to get this information from? Remember, NL men experiences doesn't count, we don't know if the information is honest.

9. Where and how did you get your information? Did you get information from enough women for the statistics to make sense? please don"t say from your friends or on Nairaland because you are going to violate numbers 4 & 5.

I am happy you posted these nine lists. There is NO way your defined behavior of women can be a fact.

For something to be a fact it has go through some scenarios (your list) to be proven as true. How did you prove your fact was true?

Again, look up the statistics of false accusation of rape vs real rape.

doitforyou:
*sighs* just as I was about to type that I appreciate we were able to discuss like two matured people you went on to say "don't be silly". I am sorry but facts are not silly they may NOT align with your prejudices but they are just plain old facts. Facts has only ONE meaning, just because people say "this is a fact" a lot does not make their opinion facts. You can have opinions but you can't make up facts. FACTS: you can not have a pre-defined behavior for ALL women and then judge a woman you don't know on those stereotypes, that's sexism. You should judge a woman solely based on the contents of HER character, not on the contents of the character YOU think women have.

I can see you are already set in your views, and even if the truth hits you in the face you would still be in denial. I am not here to convince anyone, you believe what you believe. Unlike you, I don't think you are silly, I think you are too prejudiced to have a rational conversation about women. I guess we have to agree to disagree.

I will NEVER understand how a black man can not recognize sexism when it is through the same lens of prejudice that you are being judged on by a stranger. Just replace women and men with black and white and say it back to yourself. or if you are Muslim in a christian world.

You can say you are not a sexist but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.

P.S. I am curious to see these nine definitions of 'fact(s)' that doesn't point to "for something to be a fact it has to be proven to be true"

emelda86:
Drink water and move on bro I didn't mention u on my comment plz eeh...

And I didn't tell u to educate on this matter I no get time for long epistle

doitforyou:
Really? they are facts? FACTS: A fact: A fact is a truth. A fact is a statement of truth that can be verified and is able to be proven as true.

So have you put some sort of tracking on ALL women and monitor and record their behavior towards men. Have you done this observation under clinical conditions? Have you stated your hypothesis and gone on to establish your theory? and have you published said theories? and where can I read this report? Just because you say they are facts doesn't make them so.

Sexism: You have judged the stranger without even knowing all the facts just because she is woman, you judged her based on stereotypes that you think her facts (switch sex with race, may you would understand) and oh by the way some white people think for a fact black people are criminals, are not intelligent and they are savages.

So if you know not ALL women are bad why are you willing to give the man the benefit of a doubt but not the woman even though you don't know anything about both of them? Why do people say "lets hear from both sides" when it's a woman complaining but are unwilling to do the same when roles are switched? Sexism.

emelda86:
Why I label him the demon instead of the wife is because he's actually one...

For the woman to possess all this attributes means there's something he's not doing right

He married her I believe when he asked her hand in marriage she wasn't like that

So he initiated her into their coven na...and she's out to overthrow him.

emelda86:
Till I hear from your wife then I will know what to tell you


For your info u are the demon not her.

doitforyou:
I am sorry but this is the definition of sexism, you are judging a person based on their sex. You refuse to give someone benefit of a doubt because of stereotypes. This isn't different from racism, where a person is judged based on their race. Some people stereotype all blacks as criminals, monkeys and dumb. Some people refuse to give a black man benefit of a doubt based on those same stereotypes.

Based on the rules of statistics, you have to know that not all men are good and not all women are bad, vice versa. So why so confident that this female stranger has to be bad, you don't know her. The only reason you have come to that conclusion, without knowing ALL the facts is because she is a woman.

Ryan03:
You just clearified my thought about you, you are foolish! The woman is toxic because the man said so? Na you dey hold torch for her while she was performing the toxicity? Las las, you go dey alright shaking my dick

Ryan03:
I understand you, the thing is, women are always at the loosing end in such issues. She will be the one to birth children and loose shape, have slacked punna and all. We men remain the same but i get what you mean. I live in an environment where i've seen women abused in the name of marriage with no one to defend them. At the end, the husband toss them aside with nothing and bring in a new woman, he remains unchanged while the woman is seen as a 2nd hand wife, with so much blame on her for not being able to keep her marriage

doitforyou:
You just proved my point. You don't know this man either. How do you know he is not lying? Men don't lie? why are you willing to give the man the benefit of a doubt but you are unwilling to do the same for the woman? since they are both strangers on the internet.

Shawncavendish:
A weak man is a man who is broke and still chasing after women. Real men don't chase after women when they are broke.

Rigel95:
You and the others did not praise the wife true, but you did worse by attacking the messenger. Let me give you a scenario:

Person 1(female): I was raped by a wicked man

person 2: You were probably seducing him with revealing clothes.

person 3: You had probably been collecting money from him but refused to sleep with him.

You understand?

doitforyou:
I am quoting you so this your response will be on record. You didn't even know my post was a sarcasm to expose the hypocrisy of Nairaland men. I literally just wrote what men here tell women all the time, just changed the sex.

I absolutely agree with you. However, you don't have the same response when it is a woman that wants to leave her husband because she is not happy in her marriage. In my post, just replace it woman that is what you guys tell the wives here all the time on Nairaland. All I did was expose your hypocrisy. So now that it is not a woman, divorce is no longer a western thing that foolish feminists want to copy abi?

Thank you for exposing Nigerian men for the hypocrites that they are, you can dish the advice but can't take it . See the way you are so passionate in your reply? so you know this standard BS that men here like to tell women all the time is hogwash.

Ryan03:
shut up joor, he ate the punna for 8years, didnt know she was a demon but now that he has found a fresh one outside, he is claiming that she is a demon. If you want divorce no one is stopping you, stop trying to save face by calling the woman a demon, Nobody cares if you house is in disarray. I'm sure your ancestors are turning and crying in their graves because of your stupidity right now

Ryan03:
Biased cause he said there are two sides to a coin? But you are not biased for supporting the op without hearing from the wife? Lwkmd

Funkybabee:
for you to call her demon means you must be a lucifer because don't u check this act during ur courtship days and have u informed her family abt what u don't like abt her altitude, have u sat her down to talk one on one because people didn't change in oneday, something might push them which am sure u didn't find because u are an impatient man....

Now my question is this:
pls where is ur child, how did she/he feeling towards ur actions, what about her emotion recently, Are you planning of marrying another demon

Ryan03:
Excuse your ass, where is the intelligent question? Someone (both of you) who is being so emotional because his brother came online to cry, searching for sympathy and couldnt get it from everyone. Not everyone is dumb and hatred filled like you

Ryan03:
Ordinary condom of fifty Naira would have saved the world from a miscreant like you. I go soon read your frustration story on NL Your own go be "my satanic wife returned me to the gutters"

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Bro calm down... There are always two sides to a coin...
I think the man is being economical with the truth.

Banzermy:
Stfu. What’s your business with when he chooses to divorce the demonic wife? If you ain’t satisfied, you can go and marry her since you’re a senseless idiot. Weak ass mofo. Na heavy thunder go scatter your useless and miserable life

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
There are a lot of factors taken into consideration before alimony or child support is given.
In this case where the man is housing, feeding and clothing the wife. He has very little to nothing to lose.

jasp12:
If you can't make your marriage work as a man , who should we be calling "demon"

lilbest4:
any man who gets married in the West is a fool and deserves everything he gets.

Men gain nothing from marriage even the children are not really yours try getting a divorce first that's when you realise the children belong to the woman that's if you were not even raising another man's children sef

Ryan03:
You are the stupid one here, judging a one sided story. If she was a demon before marrying her, then why did he marry a demon? If not, you want to tell me he is completely innocent all through the marriage? He is the saint? You are really stupid