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Christianity EtcRe: Christianity; The Religion Not Founded By Jesus by rexben(op): 7:05pm On Sep 20, 2016
Mescopaul:
I promised myself never to argue any christian issue again, but I being mentioned here drew my curiosity.

I was thinking you had a point, only that you were a little confused in your point, but my eyes popped wide open when I read your signature, and now I know that you're really deluded.

You see. We should be careful in our meditations. We read the scriptures and start meditating and we come up with all sorts of beliefs and opinion and we think that's a brainchild, just as Seun thought that "they should start speaking up as atheists."

Perhaps just a moment of meditation brought that idea of atheism to him and since then he has stucked to it thinking that's a brainchild or something.

Coming back to you rexden, always try amap (as much as possible) to scruntinize ur meditations. Always ask God for the right theoriies, dont come up witha theory and u become deaf to God's voice yelling at you to cease from it.

First, to what end will this theory go?
You are a christian. You believe on Jesus. You believe you must be borna again to get to heaven, then what's your problem again.
Must u let the devil destroy ur hope eternal bliss simply because u got an idea u thought was right?

Why fight against the Bible you're reading?

This is why many people make a mess of Christianity.

This is why other religions mock us to scorn.

We are so dividedly foolish.
We are so ignorantly wise.
We think we know it and wouldnt bend and let God teach us.

Now just take a look at how ur signature clearly shows ur confusion and how u will go ahead to delude weak Christians:

"If you continue in my words then you are my disciple. And you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free John 8:31-32. to be free you have to believe and continue in Jesus words as is in the gospels only I.e Matthew, Mark, Luke and John"

Just imagine the bolded part of ur claim.
So u are now a force to reckon with and u want the whole world to forsake the rest of the Bible and start reading only the gospels?

To you, all the Pastors we have: Kumuyi, Adeboye, Ayo, Selman, Oyedepo are all foolish?

So u mean to tell me that God would be so stupid to allow mankind to continue in error without anyone having dis ur so-called truth right from the time of Luther till now?

So all the reformers, the revivalists, and all other great men who have lived this earth like gods are all wrong?

Why are u doing dis to urself?

Who are you to tell the world what to worship or what portion of the scriptures to read.

Please be very careful.
So that you wouldn't look back into time and wish u never had such a devastating meditation.

Not everything is a plaything.

As much as religion has done a mess to Christianity, that doesn't giv us a right, I repeat that doesn't giv us a right to open our mouth wide and start spewing gibberish all in the name of:

"I searched", "I discovered".

Revelation 22:19 - "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

I pray you wouldn't fall prey to the judgement of those that discard some part of the Bible and select other parts in preference to others. Amen.

It's simple. Lets just hold on to this truth we heard from the beginning.

Lets not derail. It wont be long Christ will come.
Lets not deviate at the last minute and God will see us through.

Be careful how you meditate.
First off, I appreciate your comment. For your information, I'm not a Christian. The writings of Jesus' words are in the bible does not make the bible the word of God.
The verse you quoted in Revelations was only referring to the bible but to book of Revelations only.
Christianity was created by the man called Paul to prevent people from following Jesus. The words of Jesus is not the bible. A generally accepted lie does not make truth
I pray your eyes were open to see Christianity as it is. Jesus and Christianity are two different things. If you love Jesus as you claim, you believe His words without giving excuses.
Pls do check my post on "some of the beliefs of the disciples of Jesus".
After checking the post, lets talk about it
Christianity EtcRe: The Husband Should Not Be The Head Of The Wife by rexben(op): 6:46pm On Sep 20, 2016
Scholar8200:
Meaning for the time being, you have no answer to my question thus the relevance of your thread depends on my answer! cheesy
I'm not working. I depend on God for provisions and He has never failed me. The words of Jesus is fulfilled in your hearing. Do not worry for what you will eat, ... Matt 6:31
Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. {Labour not: or, Work not} John 6:27
Christianity EtcRe: The Husband Should Not Be The Head Of The Wife by rexben(op): 6:41pm On Sep 20, 2016
Scholar8200:
Be nice to answer me first. Besides, why didnt God ask Eve first after they had fallen? Because He held the man accountable just as the Jailor held Joseph accountable for all that happened under his watch while in jail. Genesis 39:22,23
He chose who ever He wishes. Since the two has become one flesh, God was asking both and not one person.
Christianity EtcRe: The Husband Should Not Be The Head Of The Wife by rexben(op): 6:32pm On Sep 20, 2016
Scholar8200:
Be nice to answer me first.
your answering of my question determines my answering of yours.
Christianity EtcRe: The Husband Should Not Be The Head Of The Wife by rexben(op): 6:29pm On Sep 20, 2016
Scholar8200:
Eating from your sweat was mentioned, is that evil too? If yes, do you go to work?
Did you accept that you're still under the curse? If yes, what did your Apostle Paul said Christ came to do?
Christianity EtcChristians and secular music by rexben(op):
It is humorous when Christians say that they don't listen to secular music but they do read secular novels and secular school books,watch secular movies, dance secular dance, apply for secular jobs, go to secular schools and so on.
They don't even know that their lives revolve around secularism.
Christians and cherry-picking. They pick what suits them and discredit others.
So why can they involve in almost all secular activities and condemns secular music?
The instrumentalists of your church plays secular tunes ( they solo with secular musical scales). Do you know what the guy playing the talking drum in your church is saying with his drum?
Some of your gospel artists remixed secular music, why? The likes of Tope Alabi(she used Makosa's instrumentals), Eben(he used Yahooze's instrumentals) etc.
It is hypocrisy to take one part out and throw it away and hold on to the remaining parts.
It is better you(Christians) do away with secularism completely or accept it completely (with their songs).
Most of you,your minds are even more corrupt and deadly than these secular songs.
See what Jesus have to say to you;
18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things defile a person. 19 For out of the heart come evil ideas, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are the things that defile a person; it is not eating with unwashed hands that defiles a person."
Matt 15:18-20
25 "Woe to you, experts in the law and you Pharisees, hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup, so that the outside may become clean too!
Matt 23:25-26

Christianity EtcChristians are not followers of Jesus by rexben(op):
It is very fortunate for 21st century Christians that the epistles, especially that of Paul was canonized. If not for that, the number of people that claim to 'follow' Jesus will be sparse as it was in the days of Jesus.
Although, Jesus' disciples are sparse even in this generation.
The epistles provides people the opportunities to follow Jesus and do not what He says.
This event is a repeat of what happened in the time of Jesus. They claim to follow Him and call Him Lord but they don't do what He says.
Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' and don't do what I tell you?
Luke 6:46
Christianity EtcThe Husband Should Not Be The Head Of The Wife by rexben(op): 6:01pm On Sep 20, 2016
The concept of the husband is the head of the wife is evil.
The husband being the head of the wife is a product of the curse which 'God' supposedly cursed Eve when she disobeyed and 'deceived' Adam.
Moses had it recorded this way;
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Gen 3:16
Christians believe that they were freed from the curse of the law including that of Adam and Eve.
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us (because it is written, " Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree "wink
Gal 3:13
If Christians say they are free from the curse of the law, why are they still holding unto the curse that says "and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." by saying the husband is the head of the wife?

It is not consistent with the words of Jesus. Jesus taught about husband and wife.
Lets see what He said;
4 He answered, "Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female , 5 and said, ' For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh '? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
Matt 19:4-6
'The two will become one flesh'. Did you see that? They are no longer two,they are one.
So, if the husband is the head, the wife is the head likewise. If the wife is the tail, the husband is the tail likewise because the two have become one.
This is subjugation rather than religion.
Two will become one, it is not that the greater one will be joined to the lesser one.
A husband being the head of his wife is a culture of the world, it is not from God.
If Jesus is the head of the husband,He is evenly the head of the wife and not the husband.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by rexben(m): 7:04pm On Sep 01, 2016
Am puzzled øö. Maybe you can see what I am seeing Check it out www.nairaland.com/3272568/im-puzzled-should-name-child
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 1:01am On Aug 13, 2016
femi4:
Lolz....Initially you said only Paul taught. After rechecking the scripture, you saw "They taught" and your foolish mind had to quickly add Barnabas.

Anyway, a liar will always defend a lie with another lie.

As usual, you have no scriptures to back your claims.

Now open your eyez and read carefully:

Barnabas was sent to them first to see how they were doing before departing to look for Saul.

News of this reached the church in Jerusalem, and they sent Barnabas to Antioch. 23 When he arrived and saw what the grace of God had done, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true to the Lord with all their hearts. 24 He was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and faith, and a great number of people were brought to the Lord.

25 Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, 26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch

The more you try to corrupt the scripture, the more you are sounding like a fool
But you said James taught too,you lied or let me say you don't even know your scripture. You better leave the scriptures and come to Jesus for eternal life. 39 You study the scriptures thoroughly because you think in them you possess eternal life, and it is these same scriptures that testify about me, 40 but you are not willing to come to me so that you may have life.
John 5:39-40
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 8:09am On Aug 10, 2016
femi4:
Olodo! Show me Paul teachings from the bolded
twas Paul and bananas that taught and not the likes of James as you mentioned. Christianity has made you blind, pls check Acts 11:26 again. Pls now judge, who is the olodo here?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 7:58am On Aug 10, 2016
femi4:
Woe unto you and other false teachers

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive opinions. They will even deny the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Even so, many will follow their licentious ways, and because of these teachers the way of truth will be maligned. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with deceptive words. Their condemnation, pronounced against them long ago, has not been idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
Paul was deceived and so are Christians. All that Paul needed to confirm the person or voice talking was Jesus was for the voice to say i am Jesus. Forgetting that Jesus said many will come in my name Matt 24:5. Paul was deceived and Christians are being deceived. Pls come out of Christianity and follow Jesus. I am a disciple of Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 7:45am On Aug 10, 2016
kenny905:
Oh I get it....You are on of those people that believe Mohammed got the kuran from God...I just wonder y the name of Jesus appear many times in the kuran than that of Mohammed....even he d Mohammed said I don't know where I'll end up Surah 46:9......and clearly u don't know the meaning of #Christ.....Stop listening to ur imams they will only brainwash u into becoming a suicide bomber
i am not a muslim,i am a disciple of Jesus. I follow Jesus only. He is my only shepherd or pastor. To know more,pls check my profile and topics
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 12:17am On Aug 08, 2016
femi4:
You are the son of your father the devil looking for whom to devour. You couldn't even support any of your claims with Scriptures
I am not surprised you called me a son of the devil because Jesus said His disciples(which I am) will be called all sort of names since they called Him Beelzebub. Matt 10:24-25
Christianity EtcRe: This Clearly Shows We Follow Pastor Instead Of God by rexben(m): 12:05am On Aug 08, 2016
HCpaul:
Misconception! Paul is only a medium through which God ordained them.

If they are not God ordained minister then why are they called God anointed vessel?

Infact, that particular verse was referencing to Jesus.
Who calls them God anointed vessel? Eph 4:11 was believed to be referring to Jesus but it does not
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by rexben(m): 11:58pm On Aug 07, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/3272568/christian-anti-jesus-tag. Check out this important topic for Christians. It will help you to know your identity
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by rexben(m): 11:51pm On Aug 07, 2016
AmenRa1:
Prove Jesus once existed don't U guys claim he walked this earth??
I can't prove it. Prove to me that man evolved from plankton or any other unicellular life form.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 11:46pm On Aug 07, 2016
femi4:
Shut up, Peter was the leader and Paul was the last to arrive. He was brought in by Barnabas.

Then Barnabas departed for Tarsus to seek Saul. And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

They taught not Paul taught

The likes of James, John , Barnabas were there teaching others about Christ.
You don't know your Bible at all
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 11:45pm On Aug 07, 2016
Haybeecoded:
The meaning of christian is christ like while deciple is servant sent for a perticular missson I fink that I have just make a point wink
disciples are students or followers. They believe and follow their teacher 's teachings
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by rexben(m): 11:32pm On Aug 07, 2016
AmenRa1:
grin Thats if U can even prove he existed
Prove? How? I can't prove. He existed and still existing.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 2:24pm On Aug 07, 2016
femi4:
You have problem with interpretation.

Read the bolded again and you ll realised you are not making sense.


...the hand of the Lord was with them, and a great number believed and turned to the Lord. Then news of these things came to the ears of the church in Jerusalem, and they sent out Barnabas to go as far as Antioch. When he came and had seen the grace of God, he was glad, and encouraged them all that with purpose of heart they should continue with the Lord. For he was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and of faith. And a great many people were added to the Lord.
"Then Barnabas departed for Tarsus to seek Saul. And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch."
Acts 11:21-26


Son of the devil.....Paul is not Christ. There is only one Christ and that's Jesus.

Mk 8:29
And He was questioning them, "But whom do you pronounce Me to be?" Peter answering, says to Him, "You are the Christ."
I am a disciple of Jesus and not a Christian. Jesus said that many false Christs will arise Matt 24:24. Jesus is the Christ of God. I repeat Paul never followed Jesus neither are Christians following Jesus
Christianity EtcRe: Who should name your new baby? by rexben(op): 2:22pm On Aug 07, 2016
Christians;a name given by the haters of Jesus

Christianity EtcRe: This Clearly Shows We Follow Pastor Instead Of God by rexben(m): 2:20pm On Aug 07, 2016
HCpaul:
I reason your take but the pastors are trying cuz I don't expect them to do more than that.
Trying to key into the word of a pastor is not equivalent to serving them. They are God ordained minister but one should just be careful by intelligently matching on their steps.
Pastors are not ordained by God. They were and are ordained by Paul Eph 4:11
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 2:12pm On Aug 07, 2016
Christ means an anointed one. They are many Christs Matt 24:24. Paul following Christ does not mean He is following Jesus because they are many other Christs. Paul did not represent Jesus anytime or anywhere. His teachings and Jesus's teachings are irreconcilable.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by rexben(m): 2:08pm On Aug 07, 2016
AmenRa1:
Well I could stick with deism sometimes Cause Mostly that's what the world seams like
pls can I have your whatsapp contact so we can chat better. This is my gmail account, rexben.rb@gmail.com, you can send your whatsapp contact to it. I will be expecting your mail. I am not a Christian oooo. I am a disciple of Jesus
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 1:52pm On Aug 07, 2016
femi4:
And who did Paul follows? Try make sense next time

1cor 11:1
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
Paul did not follow Jesus. He follows the example of Christ? Which Christ,for they are many Christs? Matt 24:24 Paul is also a Christ do you know? Christ means Messiah and it means an anointed one. Was Paul not anointed? Stop following Paul dear,follow Jesus because He is the way,truth and life John 14:6
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 1:46pm On Aug 07, 2016
kenny905:
why don't u read it from verse 20? You'll understand the passage better...acts 11:23 When he arrived and saw what the grace of God has done, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true to their Lord with all their hearts. 24 He was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and faith, and a great number of people were brought to the Lord....#Christians #Antioch #The Church
They were called Christians after Paul taught(discipled) them for a year. Why were they not called Christians before the arrival of Paul? In Antioch, they saw Paul as a Christ(an anointed one) that was why they called his followers Christians.
Jesus is a Christ,the Christ of God. There are many other Christs in which Paul is one. So Jesus is not the only Christ, even Jesus said it. Matt 24:24
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Difference Between A Christian And A Disciple? by rexben(m): 11:00pm On Aug 06, 2016
The difference between disciple and a Christian. A disciple is a follower or student. Christian is a person that claims to follow Jesus.
If your question was what is the difference between a disciple of Jesus and a Christian?
A disciple of Jesus follows and obeys the commandments and teachings of Jesus.
A Christian claims to follow Jesus but he follow Paul instead. Christians are disciples of Paul. Acts 11:26
Christianity EtcRe: Death To All Fake pastors by rexben(m): 9:36pm On Aug 06, 2016
All Pastors are anti-Jesus,Jesus is the only Pastor.
14 "I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me - 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father - and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that do not come from this sheepfold. I must bring them too, and they will listen to my voice, so that there will be one flock and ONE SHEPHERD.
John 10:14-16.
It was he who gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as PASTOR and teachers,
Eph 4:11.
In Greek ,the word SHEPHERD in John is "poimen",the word PASTORS in Ephesians is also "poimen".
So,the word shepherd is also the same as the word pastor(s).
According to Jesus,He clearly stated that ONE SHEPHERD(PASTOR). He also continued by saying He is the only shepherd(PASTOR).
According Jesus,there can not be another shepherd(PASTOR). There can only be strangers,thieves,robbers and hirelings. John 10:5,8,12.
But according to Paul,he claimed that Jesus gave the gift of Pastor(shepherd) to men. Ephesians 4:11.
There is a battle here. A battle between Jesus words and Paul words. Jesus said one shepherd, Paul said many shepherds. One is correct and other is wrong. Jesus can't be wrong,Paul is.
JESUS.
Jesus is the son of God,He came from the Father to do the will of the Father. He is the truth. John 14:6. He said the words that i speak are from the Father.
The one who belongs to God listens and responds to God's words. You don't listen and respond, because you don't belong to God."
John 8:47
7 Now they understand that everything you have given me comes from you, 8 because I have given them the words you have given me. They accepted them and really understand that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
John 17:7-8.
He was speaking the words of God,He could not lie nor err because He was not seeking glory from men.
PAUL.
Paul is a self acclaimed apostle of God. Jesus only appointed 12 apostles and He prepared 12 thrones. Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and He was replaced by Matthias.[ Many people claimed that Paul was the one God had in mind to replace Judas,anyways he replaced Judas. I believe, nevertheless, that Paul was Judas's successor – as traitor! Judas betrayed him in his flesh; Paul betrayed him in his spirit]. According to the account of Acts,
21 Thus one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time the Lord Jesus associated with us, 22 beginning from his baptism by John until the day he was taken up from us - one of these must become a witness of his resurrection together with us."
Acts 1:21-22. Paul is or was not qualified to be an apostle.
So,because his(Paul) apostleship was questioned by others,
1 Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, at least I am to you, for you are the confirming sign of my apostleship in the Lord.
1 Cor 9:1-2.
He came up with a lie to back up his offices(because he had more than one office). He said
It was he who gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:11.
Anyways i won't blame Paul because he never had assess to Jesus teachings,words. Although he had the opportunities to learn from Jesus original apostles,his pride won't allow him.
But from those who were influential (whatever they were makes no difference to me; God shows no favoritism between people ) - those influential leaders added nothing to my message.
Gal 2:6. The influential leaders he was referring to was Jesus disciples.
So,Jesus is correct by saying one shepherd /pastor. He did not give the gift of pastor to anyone,He is the only pastor.
Anybody that claims he is a pastor is thereby saying Jesus is wrong,Paul is right . In a nutshell,the person does not believe in Jesus because anyone who believes in Jesus also believes in His words.
Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' and don't do what I tell you?
Luke 6:46.
So,all pastors are anti-Jesus. They neglected the words of Jesus because it doesn't profit them.
PURPOSE OF THIS WRITE-UP
I am a disciple of Jesus,i preach the gospel of Jesus only. I tell people about Jesus and His teachings.
teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
Matt 28:20.
He asked His disciples to believe and continue in His teachings only,after that they will know the truth and the truth shall set them free. His teachings as recorded in Matthew,Mark,Luke and John only.
31 Then Jesus said to those Judeans who had believed him, "If you continue to follow my teaching, you are really my disciples 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
John 8:31-32
Christianity EtcRe: This Clearly Shows We Follow Pastor Instead Of God by rexben(m): 9:33pm On Aug 06, 2016
All Pastors are anti-Jesus,Jesus is the only Pastor.
14 "I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me - 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father - and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that do not come from this sheepfold. I must bring them too, and they will listen to my voice, so that there will be one flock and ONE SHEPHERD.
John 10:14-16.
It was he who gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as PASTOR and teachers,
Eph 4:11.
In Greek ,the word SHEPHERD in John is "poimen",the word PASTORS in Ephesians is also "poimen".
So,the word shepherd is also the same as the word pastor(s).
According to Jesus,He clearly stated that ONE SHEPHERD(PASTOR). He also continued by saying He is the only shepherd(PASTOR).
According Jesus,there can not be another shepherd(PASTOR). There can only be strangers,thieves,robbers and hirelings. John 10:5,8,12.
But according to Paul,he claimed that Jesus gave the gift of Pastor(shepherd) to men. Ephesians 4:11.
There is a battle here. A battle between Jesus words and Paul words. Jesus said one shepherd, Paul said many shepherds. One is correct and other is wrong. Jesus can't be wrong,Paul is.
JESUS.
Jesus is the son of God,He came from the Father to do the will of the Father. He is the truth. John 14:6. He said the words that i speak are from the Father.
The one who belongs to God listens and responds to God's words. You don't listen and respond, because you don't belong to God."
John 8:47
7 Now they understand that everything you have given me comes from you, 8 because I have given them the words you have given me. They accepted them and really understand that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
John 17:7-8.
He was speaking the words of God,He could not lie nor err because He was not seeking glory from men.
PAUL.
Paul is a self acclaimed apostle of God. Jesus only appointed 12 apostles and He prepared 12 thrones. Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and He was replaced by Matthias.[ Many people claimed that Paul was the one God had in mind to replace Judas,anyways he replaced Judas. I believe, nevertheless, that Paul was Judas's successor – as traitor! Judas betrayed him in his flesh; Paul betrayed him in his spirit]. According to the account of Acts,
21 Thus one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time the Lord Jesus associated with us, 22 beginning from his baptism by John until the day he was taken up from us - one of these must become a witness of his resurrection together with us."
Acts 1:21-22. Paul is or was not qualified to be an apostle.
So,because his(Paul) apostleship was questioned by others,
1 Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, at least I am to you, for you are the confirming sign of my apostleship in the Lord.
1 Cor 9:1-2.
He came up with a lie to back up his offices(because he had more than one office). He said
It was he who gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:11.
Anyways i won't blame Paul because he never had assess to Jesus teachings,words. Although he had the opportunities to learn from Jesus original apostles,his pride won't allow him.
But from those who were influential (whatever they were makes no difference to me; God shows no favoritism between people ) - those influential leaders added nothing to my message.
Gal 2:6. The influential leaders he was referring to was Jesus disciples.
So,Jesus is correct by saying one shepherd /pastor. He did not give the gift of pastor to anyone,He is the only pastor.
Anybody that claims he is a pastor is thereby saying Jesus is wrong,Paul is right . In a nutshell,the person does not believe in Jesus because anyone who believes in Jesus also believes in His words.
Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' and don't do what I tell you?
Luke 6:46.
So,all pastors are anti-Jesus. They neglected the words of Jesus because it doesn't profit them.
PURPOSE OF THIS WRITE-UP
I am a disciple of Jesus,i preach the gospel of Jesus only. I tell people about Jesus and His teachings.
teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
Matt 28:20.
He asked His disciples to believe and continue in His teachings only,after that they will know the truth and the truth shall set them free. His teachings as recorded in Matthew,Mark,Luke and John only.
31 Then Jesus said to those Judeans who had believed him, "If you continue to follow my teaching, you are really my disciples 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
John 8:31-32
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by rexben(m): 7:36pm On Aug 06, 2016
Kudos for the well written and well researched write up@AmenRa1.
The Christians on this site will resort to cherry picking naturally because your write up is not only of superior intelligence but it also has facts substantiated by evidences none of them is equipped to refute.
The problem- the BIG problem- is the Bible and Christian's insistence that it is the source of truth and God's word. It is, of course, none of these. Hence,it serves as 'God's greatest bane', if you will, because it totally misrepresents God to those who believe in His existence; and to those who don't.
So,you have won,AmenRa1. You have overcome the tiny voice. What you have proven to be better than isn't Christianity and its plethora of inanities - it's God - the one you and billions of others think Christianity and the bible represent. For me, as for other disciples of Jesus,what defines truth is the voice of Jesus. We hear it and we obey it. Your write up and general disposition towards God has trumped this voice.
Leave Christianity,leave the bible face your life without the belief in God. Debunking the bible and Christianity is shadowboxing God and cherry-picking opponents. You'll agree with me that the God you do not believe in isn't the bible. Or, is it? At least you're an atheist not because you don't believe in people's or the bible's claims of God but because you do not believe in God's or his existence.
Congratulations once again, AmenRa1, for flooring a behemoth of over 1,500 years of unholy reign by pointing out in the documents supposedly dictated by its God. Its God, however, is not the God that you say it doesn't exist.
God exists. Jesus is His son. Christianity and the bible are a travesty.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by rexben(m): 7:35pm On Aug 06, 2016
Good evening AmenRa1 and Christians in the house smiley smiley

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