yoged:
. 220m yen yen. Sitting comfortably in your house spitting trash. How about you go join the army and be posted to Lake chad area.

This is the question I wanted to direct at you and others saying Nigeria should ask for AU troops.
I am already past conscription and recruitment age but how can someone with a functioning brain suggest Nigeria should ask for help from other African countries?

100% correct on the cycle

SuperSixSeven:


oh Yes we do. HESCO is part of the solution to build better FOBs.

Trenching machines, military bulldozers, prefab concrete barriers. These three are to be provided by Army engineering Corps.

A few UGVs and 20mm gun emplacements activated remotely.

HESCO barrier is about $500 for 15ft if you add cost of sand and equipment hired to handle sand.

Using bulldozers to heap up sand into high dunes and digging trenches using army engineers equipment achieves better at a fraction of cost.

ugo4u:


It's very clear our military needs help but some idiotic self deluding fellows keep decieving themselves. They think calling for assistance means calling the Military useless, even the US with all its resources would hardly go into any war w/o alliance(s) talkmore of Nigeria that is still struggling to consistently spend $1bn yearly solely for procurements/upgrades. Is it not 2 weeks ago COAS was complaining bitterly about the slashing of army's budget yet we shouldn't seek for help anywhere we could. Even soldiers on ground will tell you they will welcome the idea of getting reinforcement from regional blocs even if it means them holding the fort along border towns.
As for the ewures shouting that we only amplify bad news, so we should keep quiet when soldiers die because they're not human beings with families. In the US death or casualties of soldiers can bring a gov't down but in Nigeria we should hush it all up and amplify BHT casualties as if the lives of those renegades equates to that of soldiers.
Well!!! The cycle continues..

Nigerian military only needs money.
The money required does not even break the bank.
The resources in terms of men required, Nigeria has it in orders of magnitudes more than many African countries combined.

Most people calling for outside help in Nigeria come from "trading" backgrounds. Well, sorry war is not okirika market stuff. If your brain can't process higher stuff then no need for comments.

Let me shove the map of Africa in your face and ask you to choose where the "men" to fight will come from.
Ethiopia is being destroyed as we speak

Southern African countries are bogged down in Mozambique and great Lakes issues.

Chadian Army is less than 30,000 men.

Niger Republic Army is so small, it should be illegal - less than 12,000 men

Cameroon Army is also very small.

All other West African countries are fighting radical Islamic terrorists.

Nigeria has demonstrated the capacity to train 8000 men in six months.

Nigeria will fix its security issues. You guys should face your second hand clothes business.

yoged:
. Buhari will never agree to that bro. . just wasting the lifes of our soldiers

It is other African countries that will save the lives of our soldiers.
220m Nigerians and another African country of 10m people would have to send 2000 men to help you fight Boko Haram of less than 10,000 highly mobile fighters.

Please drop your phone or laptop and think.

It is because young people think like this in Nigeria that I will never vote anyone below 45 years of age ağain for a long time.

You people are not on earth to live life.

Roan77:
Bad news always overshadows success in Nigeria.

Bad news always overshadows success because there are weak souls who have permitted themselves to be brainwashed against their country.
Not entirely their fault.

Malory:
How many civil servants can afford such. Buhari is evil

Education is important. You are not educated.
7.3m/20 = N365000 per year
This is equal to N30,000 per month.

House acquisition is life time investment and this calculation is showing that a person on minimum wage will pay back in 25 years assuming he only gets promoted 5 times in his working life.

Think before you post. Brains were given for a reason. Even if they are paying you 5k a month to post negative about govt, use your brains do that you give quality service to those paying you

Stormtrooper11:


Negative. Hesco bags over barbed wires all day. Even in the counter attack at bonny Island, 1967, barbed wires were extremely detrimental.
Barbed wires in Metele, Borno led to the death of numerous of our troops. A truck go stuck in the barbed wire and blocked the passage of troops and vehicles leading to the death of good men.
We need Hesco bags not pure barbed wires.

We don't need HESCO bags.

DubaiLandLord1:
For over 9 years, nah still the same and same news

This Government don fail for security matter, make man dey pray make 2023 com fast

They will solve security matter before 2023 and win again.. or do you want to bet?.
Please name any amount.

Sergio101:
Nigeria soldiers I know do show the pictures of their enemies gunned down by them especially in a fierce encounter like this. In order to increase the morale of young aspiring soldiers.

But here.......... no pictures and you want me to believe??.
well I believe

Don't worry, Boko Haram will show pictures that you will believe. They are your god of whom you are afraid.
The after pictures of the town are showing no Boko Haram, which means they ran away. May be they are running towards your village where you are hiding away and shivering in fear

FarahAideed:
In over 8 hours of fierce fighting that involved the use of 7 fighter aircraft and consumed the life of the brigade commander you are saying only 31 Boko Haram and four soldiers died ? How did Boko Haram even reach the brigadier

The Brigadier led the reinforcement from the front to counter the attacking insurgents not like some uneducated cowards on Nairaland who post saboteuring stuff from between women's laps

ugo4u:
It's high time we rally support from ECOMOG and AU or even the UN to come assist us with both men and equipment; if we can rally about 10,000 contingents of these regional forces to take on these terrorists head-on it will go a very long way in this war. It's getting obvious that the military is overwhelmed/overstretched coupled with the fact that they're heavily underfunded especially the Nigerian Army. We should tuck in this big brother abi na giant of Africa mantra in our pockets and seek for assistance anyway and anywhere we could this war has already lingered for too long we can't build a nation in a perpetual state of internal-war.

This is an absolutely bad idea. Pls in every field that has an established profession with processes and standards, always keep SHUT with the layman common sense stuff that people have thought about and dismissed or tried and failed.
Besides there is already MNJTF in place.

AU nations are lacking in the basics of military resources to provide assistance to Nigeria.

It is going to be so expensive as to potentially swallow the entire defense budget.

Pls calculate it yourself; salary and allowances and aircraft cost to provide rotation for just 10,000 troops from ten African countries.
It is the height of Nigerian stupidity. Very bad idea informed by social media escalation of a few developments on the battlefield.

What Nigeria needs is more CJTF, more training for CJTF and more creative defending of towns unsing CJTF as the military are about to start their offensives.

For Nigerian observers of the war on social media, when you read about a new development, quickly look at a map of the theatre and get more info to understand what the big picture is.
Do some thinking about what ISWAP and Nigeria are trying to achieve

youghs:
Video of Tigray Defense Force(TDF) shooting down an Ethiopian Mi-35. If that is a manpad then I think Egypt is already in the play.

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1459164399961350148?s=19

Egypt is in play? smh
Is the US not in play?. China is challenging in Djibouti. I think Ethiopia knows what to do. Unfortunately it has to be an alliance with Iran, China and to an extent, Russia.
They can give their enemies a bloody nose.

Whyem15:



Could you provide us with any literature to prove trenches are outdated or you could simply explain why it won't work against ISWAP or BH.
In the flatlands that the northeast is, elevation isn't much of an advantage when you can see kilometers away while on level ground. Both sides will see each other several minutes before they can engage each other. Except of course the highlands near the mandara mountains.
Also, as long as you have a clear line of sight and your aim is true, you will hit your targets conveniently.

Thank you. I have just asked that kid that question. Only a kid posts such nonsense

komekn:


One of the first to things I noticed about our forward bases is that we are still in this millennium shockingly, "Digging Trenches" that is so outdated. The next you notice we have no "Elevation"

So you see the enemy when he is almost on top of you.

A 50 cal. Rifle will still need elevation to have the advantage.

Another lie - digging trenches is outdated. Who told you so. Did you learn such nonsense from a video game?

Rich4god:
Again....

If most attacks come from lake Chad region....
Why can't the military gather a reasonable number of men and ammunition and try to set up a barricade between lake Chad region and the rest of town/Nigeria. And probably set up offensive from there.

I don't want to even ask why the military don't want to start and sustain an onslaught against these guys. Why must we always wait for them to come and attack and run away. Abi iswap dey sleep for air.

As big as northern Iraq is, Iraqis military and civilian forces moved house to house routing out Isis till they left Iraq.

If its the forces the military need, they should petition national assembly. We have thousands of youths willing to join the army.

Mobilize massive forces and attack lake Chad region.
Is that rocket science.
We may not have the tech, but we have the man power.

You don't have information that is why you are posting this amateur stuff. In any case, Nigeria has already commenced most of these things you are suggesting months back.

miteolu:


Yes, 2 A-29 Super Tucano Destroyed. Remain 10. About $1b spent on the tucanos

No aircraft was destroyed. If only you went to a good school or had fairly average IQ, a little mistake in the press release should have been apparent to you.
Go back to school. Return your certificates. You are not worthy of them

WoeBetide666:


And the guy talk say ein dey military smh

This your language is typical bloody civillian. Full of ignorance and lots of talk, talk.

Anyway some of us have written in the past about how masses of insurgents could move to their objectives over days and weeks by mingling with civillian populations and also via sheer human endurance through bushes and forests. The guntrucks are the only things that need to have been pre positioned or driven in at night.
So again, more UAVs are required and more civillian informants need to be recruited

They did not seize the facility.

Iriruaga100:


I was one of the few who campaigned vigorously against him. Someone who couldn’t bring meaningful growth and development in 1984, what want bring instant change in 2015.
You can’t give what you don’t have!

You guys are so mis informed, even ignorant yet you persist in posting rubbish.
All you know about governance is patronage and free money.
Where does government work like that in any developed country?

Talking about meaningful growth. What do you know about meaningful growth?. Nothing.
You were a stupid oil dependent country importing fuel, palm oil, rice and Dubai wears.

High oil price was supporting your lazy, consumption addicted and corrupt lifestyles, especially you urban middle class l.
You better thank Buhari.
He has already fundamentally changed the country anyway so get off your lazy asses, think, work, innovate. No more free money

kmcutez:
Remove Northern Nigeria and watch miracles happen. Southern Nigeria carrying the dead weight and burdensome Northern Nigeria.

Remove Northern Nigeria's agric and Agro processing and watch your destruction happen. The GDP would be lower than Tunisia

Who said Britain borrowed $500bn?
Britain is owing $7 trillion.

Tingotoe:
Who cares,?

This is my exact question to the joker

Who is the slowpoke posting this?
You are destroying your homeland and with it at least three generations.
You think 70-something year old Buhari who is leaving govt and will be with his maker soon should care more than you.

If you like form Biafran Cobras and kill fellow Igbos. Generational stupidity is something the world has seen before.

Desmalis:
Again I ask, what is Sunday's crime exactly.

Because he volunteered to save his people against the killer herdsmen or what exactly?

Abeg jari, we will Design a professional Logo or Company Letterhead for 2k Only

Our Contact:
https://www.nairaland.com/desmalis
.

You are a liar if you can't admit Igboho s crime. A lot of you are nurtured by Nigeria's educational system and inferiority to tell lies. Igboho was actively canvassing for the dissolution of Nigeria. He threatened on video to kill anybody participating in the democratic process. He threatened to depose Obas. His so-called efforts to protect Yorubas from criminals from outside the country and Fulani militia is nothing new. Almost every state in Nigeria has vigilante outfits that work with Police and receive support from them. Youths in Borno State are doing ten times more than Igboho ever did in combating Boko Haram via their CJTF. So you must work under established structures to be a vigilante.

In summary, we should desist from lies even if they are sweet. Igboho and Kanu on tape, on video and in actions committed crimes.
The law must take its course.

kikuyu1:
I keep seeing posts proving posters have no clue the weapons system they're cheerleading. After all this time we STILL see forumers "explaining" how a flight of Sue 30 will change the situation in the NE or how a couple of minisubs will redraw the strategic situation in the Gulf of Guinea by denying mighty Cameroonian patrol boat Grebe success to the Bight of Benin and similar examples of sea denial.
Guys, weapons and weapons platforms must be FIT FOR PURPOSE! No matte how weirdo or outlandish they may seem they MUST perform a clear function, a definite purpose.
Behold, the assault revolver, the rsh-12!?

Yes! There is a revolver firing the giant 12.7x55 mm round. Ofc, there's a very SPECIFIC purpose- punching through walls and body armour to put DOWN terrorists WITH one shot- and one hand as the other usually holds a ballistic shield.

https://modernfirearms.net/

The concept makes MUCH sense: despite what movie's tell us pistols, even tricked out specops handguns evidence failure to feed. Revolver with much fewer parts are more reliable. The giant round is so powerful a solid hit ESPECIALLY at typical close room distance would dismember the victim- therefore the revolver makes sense in AT ops. In a traditional P2P 1st world battle space like Russia vs W Europe, our AS/ KDF or ISWAP/NA engagements it would be as useless as gills on a lion!
The rsh-12 exemplifies how tactical NEED influences the weapon-NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. I hope the idea that weapons are tailored to the tactical situation is now clear.
GASSPPP! There are now carbine versions available for civvy hunters.

100% agree with you.

ChuksTalking:


Am enjoying this thread show with my mouth shut not saying a word, but am missing Bidexiii, so we pray he is well and not banned.

For that man's long tori like WAEC essay or NECO, some sense is in it but maybe his land cruiser Toyota 1,000 pick up is not NA soft skined 4 WD his own idea may be up armoured type like our own Proforce armoured land cruiser Toyota so he may be right, NA needs it for special forces or rapid deployment, hot pursuit and soft soil too weak for heavy apc, ifv, mraps. Please buy 1,000 from us we deliver on time, call our head prodn dept Ayo @ tel 08023890712

You don't seem to understand. A secondary requirement is resistance to 12.7mm ordnance. No up armoured Toyota has that.

dragon2:
According to Dearsan's post on Linkedin on 3 October, the Turkish shipyard has secured an agreement with the Nigerian Navy to build two offshore patrol vessels.
Naval News Staff 05 Nov 2021

Dearsan stated on the social media:

“Our Shipyard will build 2 units of 76 m OPV (76 meter Offshore Patrol Vessel) within the scope of the contract signed with the Nigerian Navy. The OPV’s, which have been configured in line with the Nigerian Navy requirements, will be designed and build entirely within our shipyard’s capabilities and equipped with indigenous systems.”


The vessels are scheduled to be delivered to the Nigerian Navy within 37 months.

The ships will be outfitted with indigenous sensors and systems, according to the agreement, but the details of the systems and subcontractors have not been disclosed by the signatories.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/11/turkeys-dearsan-shipyard-to-build-2-opvs-for-the-nigerian-navy/

Nigerian Navy should ask for this ship killer to be installed on these OPVs

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/roketsan-the-atmaca-missile-family-grows

fourboys:
All these loans, what's the payback plan?? I don't get it, till now I still don't understand why these fools closed our borders. We can't import goods from other countries but we can borrow money from them
God na just one visa oo

The pay back plan is pay your taxes. Border closure is good policy. It will protect Nigerian goods. Personally if I were President, my economic policies would be more draconian. Nigerians don't want to use brains at all yet the world is changing.
There is energy transition. Crude oil will soon be destroyed as the most important global commodity.
There are supply chains issues and post COVID stuff causing global inflation yet all Nigerians can think about is cheap petrol, imported salad and bone straight hair. It is a disgrace

NwaNimo1:
Oyibo refer to that time as the 'dark ages'.......they don't like discussing the matter,

very crafty people!

No oga. Dark ages = no science, no development, no organized religion, no records of events throughout Europe because of the fall off the Roman Empire and reign of barbarian tribes (Germans)
Everywhere else was developing but Europe. It was the moors who brought modern civilizations to the dark continent then

ecomog1990:
We as Nigerians quickly forget our past.

Any goddam new procurement of vehicles, we celebrate blindly without careful deep thinking.

So we celebrated 43 T-72 tanks 7 years ago but today 7 years after celebration, Nigeria's insecurity is worse.

All these unarmed light armoured vehicles without guns long range night vision sensors, will be fitted with same old DShK or W85 that has failed to give security to all 36 states and FCT.

320 unarmed STANAG 1 & STANAG 2 vehicles are not war winners. You may keep celebrating like this for another 20 years. They turn you to their drummer boy dancers while big men get rich from each procurement

All these 100 Dongfeng, 100 Bigfoot, 60 Legion, 60 Type 89 tracked are simply replacements for heavy attrition losses Nigerian Army is suffering for Steyr APC tracked, MTLB tracked, MRAPs of Bigfoot, Caiman, REVA, etc destroyed by IED, RPG, DShK, etc. You need to visit Nigerian Army scrap vehicle bone yard or Zamfara to Borno terrain graveyard of destroyed NA armoured vehicles to see how many vehicles we have lost to enemy action.

Tuareg & Tebu Mali Bandits, Kanuri Boko Haram, Sahel & Sahara ISWAP, Senegal & Nigér Fulani Bandits have already done infantry tactical flanking maneuver turn corner sidetrack & bypass Nigerian Army containment barrier troop battalions to invade reach Kaduna, Benue, Niger, Abuja, down to Lagos-Ibadan Expressway, they now have access to all our 36 states & FCT.

Like ISOTREX Phantom and KIA KLTV failed, so Dongfeng with DShK will NOT save us in our 923,000 km² land mass giant size, we need new armoured vehicles in several thousands spread across all 774 local government areas to trully end insecurity nationwide.

This is just - 320 + 320 = 0 Progress

How could you waste so many words posting such nonsense? . There is no economy in it at all. This is not a cost effective post

shadowprimezero:


The picture you posted is on the heavy IFV variant which we don't know if Nigeria got. For context, the is the "skeletal" 12.7mm/40mm RCWS we were talking about. You can also see it operation in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=308cDCJJTCc

These systems are $180k at the very least. The vehicle on its own is just about $220k. I am not sure Nigeria would have gotten one RWS per vehicle. I acknowledge the advantages of RWS for laying cover fire from inside the vehicle during ambush and ability to work in a sniper infested battle field that pins down most manual gunners but I think RWS should be one per six vehicles