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luckyCO:
I think you misunderstood the nomenclature instead of correcting, you went ahead judging and concluding negatively.

My intention is to trigger the knowlegde of our priests and where their minitries are.
I have a friend who has been in Abuja for years a Catholic but didnot know that we have Catholic Adoration Ministry(CAFON) where one can worship every fridays but according to her she was attending other programs still hoping one day Rev. Mbaka will come Abuja.

My preference to Rev. Edeh is simply an opinion based on track records which are purely personal. It doesnt mean I dont like other priests, I love Rev. Mbaka,Rapheal etc very very well.
My dear Rev. Mbaka I know cannot curse someone because of expressed personal opinion instead he will caution against it.
Please dont relate that to him.

Am changing the title.
Be blessed.

I maintain that your so-called comparisions is in bad taste and unCatholic. I KNOW ALL THE PRIESTS YOU MENTIONED IN PERSONS AND NONE OF THEM IS GREAT! It is poeple like you that blow their trumpets to high heaven and make them to be very proud. Rev. Fr Peter Anozie started well but emotional Catholics like you told him that he was the greatest. He left Catholic Church , married and started a Church. He died last four years. Arcbishop Milingo of Zambia is now out of the Church because pride entered him. The personal reasons you choose Fr. Edeh is none none of my business, all I know is that what ever he is today, the glory goes to God. He is a servant and servats cannve be great.
Fr. Ralph Faghboun of Abuja is no great. Fr. Mbaka is not. Fr. OZELLE is not. Fr. Dibie is not. Jesus Christ is great, that is why they are his priests

@POSTER
You are a confused Christian and if you a Catholic, then you are a serious backslider!
The question can only come from a lip of an infant! Do you know what it means to say a priest of God is the geatest in Nigeria? In what areas? ADMINISTRATION, HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGEMENT, PERFORMING MIRACLES OR RUNNING A SCHOOL?
Well, Fr. Edeh your hero estalished Madonna University at Okija from tithes, offerings and donations of widows and orpharns, today it is one of the most expensive private University in Nigeria.
Fr. Mbaka will curse you if he hears you link his name to the greatest priest. There is no competition among the priests of God. Each is serving according to his gifts and grace of God. That is why the Priests wash other people's feet on holy Thursdays!

You would said that some men are greatly attracted to women.
Not all men have women as weakness! Some men are gay while others are monks!

@poster
If you want a handsome dude, cute and down to earth, I will post my photo for you eyes only. But I am really afraid that you can't handle the after effects since you sound like a hopeless romantic. You may faint, shed endless tears of joy, wet the pic with endless kiss or keep it under your pillow as you sleep!

Naveyah:
that's my cuz , you do us proud Emeka, no matter what anyone else says,

Your cousin is making fool of himself and his family. To come out now that his mummy is a deputy governor shows that the guy has a lot to learn about politics.

To be honest, I truly really enjoyed the film! The hollywood might be lazy in research but very good in producing films for a joyful entertainment!

Changes or no changes, I love the movie! It all about entertainment! It rocks

To the poster
PLS QUOTE THE SOURCE OF YOUR STORY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A TALE FROM A YELLOW NAGAZINE, I AM SURE THAT NO CATHOLIC PRIEST WILL DESCEND TO THAT LEVEL

grace and disgrace

OLAADEGBU:
@KunleOshob,

It does not surprise me that you did not address what Jesus had to say about the giving of alms. Is this because you do not care or that you have been so blinded by the god of this world that you cannot see what Jesus meant when He said what He said. Jesus not always said the truth He is the Truth and if you have any love for the truth you will find out what Jesus had to say on any particular issue instead of quoting His words out of context as you usually do.

Jesus was speaking to His disciples here and to those who wanted to know the will of the Father. I am sure this was one of the reasons why the hypocritical pharisees hated him, because He spoke the truth. If I say the truth that Jesus pointed out does that make me a hater? Those who hate the truth as you have shown will think that I am hating on them but the reality is that you hate the light of the gospel truth but prefer the applause of men. The truth must be said as Jesus did even if it hurts and is bitter but that is what will eventually heal and sweeten.

It was Adrian Rogers that said "It is better to be divided in truth than to be united in error, it is better to speak truth that hurts and then heals than to speak a lie; it is better to be hated for telling the truth than to be loved for telling a lie; it is better to stand alone with truth than to be wrong with the multitude . . . The religion of today is 'get-along-ism.' It is time for men and women of God to stand,[even] if they have to stand alone."

So my advise to the religious hypocrites on this forum is to take heed to the words of Jesus Christ who loved us and gave Himself for us so that we can be saved through faith alone in His blood that was shed on the cross of Calvary for the remission of our sins and not in addition of the works of our hands.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: It is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. -- Ephesians 2:8,9

This applies to all who are called by the name of the Lord whether you are in the RCC, Pentacostal, Evangelical, Orthodox historic churches or whatever place you worship, if you are to be saved it would be by faith alone in Christ's atonement. Works of righteousness is only a product of this faith, it is Christ working in us to do God's will, as we obey.

Ny dear, Jesus did not condemn alms giving. What He is against is hypocritical alms giving the Pharisees were used to. When He feed 5000 hungry folks, the Jews heard about it and chased him around with flying boats for more bread. read John 6

Emeka Etiaba should go and sit down! Governorship of Anambra State is not his family birth right. His Mummy is still the deputy Governor and he has the guts to talk of being the next gov, Gosh, he will surely fail woefully!

don maselo:
the ban is unethical, descriminatory,archaic, unwaranted and it is a obstruction to the fundamental and unfundamental human right and left of the afore mentioned community and the court to give the state goverment an interlocutary injuction to stop this unethical system of primitive communism. this form of jingoism,chauvinsim, ethnocentrism, misandry and pantribal solidarity should be non existant the civilised core of a country although a fail nation. this form of discrimination should be abrogated and the people responsible should be quarantined to prevent further jingolistic and bombastic attitude towards such an ambivient people who are true desendant of david.

How many big bottles of SEAMAN AROMATIC SCHANNAPS did you take before posting this crap?

you two should not behave like Logan and Victor in the Movie, fighting over nothing!

The Eze Ndi Igbo title is meaningless and I support the action of the govt. One cannot be a king in another man's land. Every king must be within his kingdom where he will be guiding and directing his people. The Eze NDI IGBO title is highly abused on Lagos and other towns! All sort of guys with quetionable characters are springing up with rep caps and Feathers, claiming
EZE NDI IGBO LAGOS
EZE NDI IGBO IKEJA
EZE NDI IGBO AMUWO
EZE NDI IGBO IFAKO -AGEGE
EZE NDI IGBO APAPA And all the local govts in Lagos!
The real Kings in the East met and warned them to stop disgracing the Igbos but they refused, others agreed. The Eastern governors and traditional rulers said that their titles will not be EZE NDI IGBO[KING OF IGBOS] but ONYE NDU NDI IGBO[Leader of Igbos}. The Real Eastern kings told the Oba of Lagos their decisions and the rest is history

I disagree. Not all Nigerians that grew up in this nation of corruption that are corrupt. They are saints here despite our corruption infestated enviroment.

huxley:
I feel for the poor son. He has really been dealt a bad hand to be the son of such a deceitful and exploitative man is reason enough to loose one's composure.

Mr Huxley, you are reasoning here like a child! You want me to believe that the father is responsible because he is a deceitful and exploitative father? Come on, the guy in question is an adult and I am so sure that his daddy did not ask him to go and masturbate in a public park ! Keep his daddy away from the guy's moral failure.

I am waiting too to read the book

nowissoon:
When men are too quick to speak, they often sin. I am not the person you refer to with the username and I know the watchman more than you do. I also know personally many of the starting members, including Pastor Ohanebo personally. So I am not the person you think.
From your statement “I have the right to comment about DEEPER LIFE CHURCH.” You sounded like you are a member of the church or were once there, but do you also have to right to comment on the Watchman. Now please read on.

The charismatic movement is a movement that God used to bring about revival in the Roman Catholic Church. They believe in the Holy Ghost and the scriptures wholly. God put a burden in their hearts for their Jerusalem, the Roman Catholics. Just as we have Charismatics, we have Pentecostals, etc. The Charismatics are known with the charismatic (Holy Ghost) demonstration: That is the spirit of the charismatics, it is not a matter of church or name. And during the charismatic reviver in Nigeria, in different states and parishes, these men found the truth and held on. And then the Roman catholic church could not stand them, so they sent many of them out, it is not only watchman, the various charismatics are found all over Nigeria(The ones still in the Roman church today are those who are still following the dogmas of the church). They move out, scattered in the various places and continued fellowship as Charismatics (for that is who they were), but as different independent entities. And in fact, the present Watchman today, one of the groups suffered severe persecution from the Roman church. The easiest thing as a man was to give the group one big name, and deviate from the calling but that was not the vision. In fact even some members left because of the name and persecution from the church, but God took the pace. And it took 2 years of prayers before God established the group name with “Watchman”. It was clears that God was not changing these men to another calling.

You see, you name is who you are, according to your calling: Not what men say, but what God says. It is just like we have the pentecostal or apostolic or evangelical missions/churches, each of them have their calling, but not for the Roman catholic church. Most of the charismatic have deep root in Roman Catholicism, that is their origin, and God called them to their people. so that is why you still see charismatic movement is the name of many churches today (just like you see Pentecostal or Apostolic), it is not the name of a particular church-it is just their area of calling. Or when you see words like 'faith', 'prayer', 'deeper', evangelical', etc, they did not steal the name. In fact sometimes the name look so similar, but they do not even know each other or ever met. It is God’s business, not theirs or yours. And do you accuse God for that?

Today, we have so many, so many charismatic movement, all over the world. It is not given by a man; it is an area of calling. If you are into ministry, you will understand what I mean. Deeper Life are not charismatics, neither is CPM nor Mountain of Fire. You do not do what you want, if God has called you as charismatic, you can not pretend to be another, or to do you wish. What makes the watchman unique or different from other charismatics is the name "Watchman". May I tell you that Jesus is coming soon, not one ministry can do this work, and God is raising men/women toward winning souls for Him.

Mr. Rotimy, you may be a Christian now, I guess, but you may just be destroying the same body of Christ. These ministries you are castigating are doing the work God has called them to do and thousands of souls have been saved and blessed by them. Which one are you doing now? I told you earlier, if you want to know properly about a ministry, go to the right sources, not internet.
Somebody said "At the age of 9, he wanted to know more about life after death, life after this phase here on earth, no one was able to answers his questions" I do not know this person or any of you over there, however the person was right. That experience is an experience most people had had many year before they met Jesus, it show a sincere heart seeking to know the Lord, it is not about calling, but you changed the statement and you said "I laugh when I hear about the claim of his having a call at age of nine! Good luck to him but we know him very well". Are you sure you know him? Do you see the cause is your mind set, even if you are told the truth and your mind is polluted, you will just find a way to disfigure the thing again. This matter is not our own matter, it has to do with God, that is why you must be careful what you say: Remember what happened to Moses sister Miriam.

May I tell you again "In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.” Proverbs 10:19. You have added sin upon sin with you words, what you need is humility and repentance. I am sure if the first post mentioned some other pastors, you must have criticism for all of them. In God's work, there is no ministry of criticism (you see that in the secular), but there is the corrective ministry. You correct by example and by the Word of God (by word and deed). So which one is your ministry? I tell you again, if you do not repent, you have already attracted God's judgement upon yourself, you do not just utter what you like in what matters to God. If God has called me to work for him and has told me how to go about it, who are you to stand against it. “And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.” Acts 9:5

Thank you so much for your sermon! At least, you have suddenly agreed that Pastor Ohanebo and co started from the Roman Catholic Church revival group called " Catholic Charismatic Renewal" . You said before that church never broke out any where, it was rather a group of few people that were led by the pastor then.
On those still in Catholic Charismatic Renewal inside Catholic Church, you said that they are still holding the dogmas of the Church yet you also said The Charismatics are known with the charismatic (Holy Ghost) demonstration: That is the spirit of the charismatics. Look, A christian movement that is no persecuted is not from God! Wheather it takes you people 2 or 20 years to get the name is not important, the truth remains that is very sad that the copyright was intentionally taken by Pastor Ohanebo. How will he have felt if Laz Mouka had used the name LORD CHOOSEN WATCHMAN CHARISMATIC RENEWAL MOVEMENT? Stop being sentimental and reason like an adult! You asked what have I done for the Lord and His Kingdom? my answer, what have Pastors and members of WCCRM done that nobody has done?
The judgement of God you talk about is God's business not yours! If you have been brain washed in worshipping a human being because he is a Pastor or man of God, please repent! God is God not a man and knows the hidden intention of all men! I am based in Lagos and may respect men of God more than you, but I don't worship any of them and if any of them is deviating from God's way, I owe him or her a prayer! But I am also free to discuss ways of assisting them.

nowissoon:
People speak based on how much knowledge they possess on any issue. That is why you can tell better of your own pastor or one whom know very well, especially when you have been blessed through the his ministry or you have seen some substantial differences compared to others: However a good comparison (if/when necessary for good purpose) is a function of how much of the WORD your know and how much you are close to God. And even when we know, we do not make squabbles; that how you know true and seasoned Christians. We rather reach out with love by our lives and deed.
On the internet, people are fond of saying anything with lol, but with due respect, I wish to warn that we avoid speaking against men/women of God, especially when you do not know them (as agents of darkness) substantially: If we do, we will attract God's judgment to ourselves, I guess you know what I mean if you are a bible student.
Moreover, the leading quote or questioner seem to be exited and blessed by some pastors that he has come to know very well with some standard and wanted to know others who are alike whom he does not know. However, it is scriptural to thank God for the lives of his ministers and to give honour to whom honour is due. Nobody should be offended whatsoever, I see the forum as one for testimonies. There are a number of pastors who have been a blessing to me and whom I love, but they are not my church pastor. I should never be offended if you tell me how you love you pastor. Oh, Praise God! May God continue to use and bless them. It takes boldness to confess truth to the world. [b]Hence, I wish to implore Mr. Rotimi to repent because what he has written to million of people is false and blackmail- it is blasphemy.
The men you spoke about are very busy with their divine assignment; it was God you spoke against. I know some of the pastor we have mentioned, some have been a blessing to me, but Mr. Rotimy, if you rehearse sincerely (or make enquires) what you said about the first pastor you mentioned, you will discover that you have made a big mistake. For the second pastor you mentioned, if you make enquires, you will also see that you have created you own statements, because that church never broke out any where, it was rather a group of few people that were led by the pastor then. They become born again and had the vision for the Roman catholics, a vision God gave to the founder which to continue to share to those who he was leading. They were devoted in Roman church and had their meeting openly until the Roman catholic church told them to leave, since they were not following the church doctrines (they follow strictly the bible only), so they left and continued fellowship in one of their homes. And from a sitting room meeting of few people they grew to what you see today. You do not need to be a member of a church to know about their history, just research in the right sources. The churches you mentioned still have their founding members, I am sure you can reach them if you really want.
Finally, in all that we do, let us exhort the Lord and not men or ourselves. Moreover, the way we present our questions/quotes affects the manner of response we have, wisdom play a role here. God bless you all.[/b]

I hope you are the same person with the username amazingurl . Because you both of you write alike and have posted only once each! If your coming into nairaland is to defend Pastor Ohanebo, you will surely fail! You claimed what I wrote was false ,a blackmail and a blasphemy. You also asked me to repent! Thank you! Pastor Ohanebo told you and others that the CATHOLIC he uses means universal. Why was he silent on Catholic charismatic Renewal? Because it is an organisation he belong to, left and STOLE their name. I laugh when I hear about the claim of his having a call at age of nine! Good luck to him but we know him very well. I repent for not telling you all! Read more about the catholic charismatics on www.iccrs.org
About Pastor Kumuyi, I respect him too but I insist that his leadership style is not the best. It is of rescent that they start mingling with other Christians! Their parents, brothers and sisters who are not their members were treated before as lepers! I have the right to comment about DEEPER LIFE CHURCH. Ironically, some people who are bold to leave the Church for another one are busy thanking God for freedom from legalism!
I repeat, only God knows those who belong to him, wheather Pastors or those who shout from roof tops that they are born-again! Only God in heaven truly know us!

amazingurl:
Cant but smile at the rubbish all of U are commenting, The person who began the thread clearly stated that those are the pastors he respects the most.And wanted comments. If there were other pastors you guys also respected, you should have just mentioned their names instead of insulting the person who started the thread,

[b]And Rotimi,whoever you are, i read your comments and i feel so sorry for you.When people are blinded by the devil himself,its certain only the light of God make them see the truth, Pastor Ohanebo didnt break up from any church.Originally he was a member of the Catholic church because of cus that is what he was born into,now mind u no one is mandated to remain in sometin that is not beneficial to your souls wellbeing.At the age of 9,he wanted to know more about life after death,life after this phase here on earth,no one was able to answers his questions. After many years,God saw the humility and sincerity in the heart of this Man Of God and called him out of darkness,the darkness he was born into,the darkness that was practised in the Catholic church. The name of his church was gotten after years of praying and divinely seeking Gods leading on what the church will be called. The catholic in the name of the church is used in it original meaning "UNIVERSAL", indicating the church is for all and sundry.

You said the Man Of God is a crafty unintelligent man. Am tempted at this point to speak to U but i wont cus its Gods business to judge people like U. those words were rather harsh and strong to use for such an anionted man.

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If Pastor Ohanebo said that he was not a memeber of Catholic Charismatic Renewal at ST PAUL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH EBUTA METTA, LAGOS, I will be shell-shocked! He was and he left the ministry and stole the name! Catholic Charismatic Renewal started in USA in 1967 as a pentecostal revival group in Catholic Church but reached Lagos at 1974 at St. Donminic Yaba, Lagos! I insist that the man with few other stole the name and converted to WATCHMAN CATHOLIC CHARISMATIC RENEWAL MOVEMENT in order to confuse people and steal folks! If God speaks to him as he claimed, why not giving him a new name? Catholic Charismatic Renewal is still exisiting in every Catholic Parish all over the world.

grafikdon:
Well, Hollywood is not known for accuracy. It's very irritating but I guess they don't really give a damn. A remote "Igbo village" in Lagos is probably the most ridiculous thing I have seen coming from Hollywood. It's very hilarious and inaccurate. . .

LOL
I bet you Ojo Alaba in Lagos is remote Igbo village in Lagos!

Yeasterday, I was at Genesis Deluxe cinema Lekki and Lagos for the premiere of the most aniticipated action film since this year, X-MEN,THE WOLVERINE.
The audience erupted in cheers and lengthy applause when the opening scene showed not only Nigeria but our own Lagos! The clapping hardly dies down than one of the captors of the mutants speaking a flawless Igbo! The roof nearly came down with the audience catcalls and Igbos shout of "Nwanna Nwanna"{our brother, our brother!}.
The audience agreed that the building shown in the film is the UBA BANK PLC headquaters at Marina LAGOS.

larayat:
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this hunning get as e be

tpia:
so buying popcorn at Silverbird cinemas has landed you a girlfriend on NL?

Bros, Which girlfriend are you talking about?

larayat:
so nt mindin ur last sentence i want to se ittttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Pls Larayat, let me see your picture first. I believe in that maxim, LADIES FIRST!