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Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 9:24pm On Jul 25
paulGrundy:


I can't even understand all you wrote? What's the relationship between my comments and the Bible quotations you made?

That Jano is a deluded.
I don't know if that is what clown was trained to do at "Bethel". He is always quoting several bibles verses that he has never read and that have no connection whatsoever with the lies he is trying to tell as an active Publisher employee of the real estate tract selling corporation.

I guess he doesn't really read these verses and only throws them out to try and distract the person.
Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 9:21pm On Jul 25
haddeylium:


I assume you're an adult. Please act like one. Jehovah's witnesses religion is just one of thousands of religion with contradictory teachings. So, it's not unexpectable that their teaching is different from yours.

Though what you wrote there is not related to OP but JWs are not alone in that understanding. Seventh Day Adventist are Trinitarians that believe Jesus is an Archangel. What do you have to say to them?
What is the name of your church?

Let's help you Seventh Day Adventists is where Russell, the founder of the present JW organization stole their teachings from hence some similarities in belief.

The Millerite movement, Nelson H. Barbour, etcetera
Religion / Re: What Are The Teachings Of Jehovah Witnesses That Are Lies by RussellRutherfo: 9:09pm On Jul 25
peacefulworld01:

Look at yourself,you were disfellowshipped from Jehovah witnesses due to your bad behaviours and u choose to be a blackmailer instead of beenbremorseful and come back to worship Jehovah in truth.

Firstly,Jehovah witness disfellowship when a member commits a serious sin and choose to be unremorseful. it's In accordance with the Bible principle which stated at 1 Corinthians 5:13 which says "while God judges those outside,remove the wicked person from among yourselves" so disfellowship is allowed and there is nothing wrong in it,its a means of protecting the Christian congregation from unrepentant and evil minded fellows who might had crept in.

Once more you have no evidence against the witnesses,rather than resulting to cheap and poor photoshopped black mail you should turn bad from your ways and come back to worship Jehovah.

2)you raised the issue of donation,today Jehovah witnesses are in more than 256 lands and publications are been translated into so many languages,all that is possible from donations,

Blackmail won't stop witnesses from preaching the good news about God kingdom so many prominent men tried and failed and you too would also fail in this your quest.




grin

Don't worry. You will awake when you do independent research. All these JW gra-gra. We did them before.

Read below what the ever-changing jw org thought on this while castigating the Catholics for Ex-communication as unbiblical and years the evil organization adopted this practice.

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Religion / Re: What Are The Teachings Of Jehovah Witnesses That Are Lies by RussellRutherfo: 9:04pm On Jul 25
peacefulworld01:

Your evil blackmail won't stop more people from hearing the good news.

Just are just one in a billion and your evil opinions about Jehovah witnesses won't stand.

My people please ignore this pained blackmailer and you can get truth facts about Jehovah witnesses at
www.jw.org or download our JW app from the Google play store.
Thank you
.

Jwfacts.com

Follow the Ex-jehovah witnesses community. I will be listing out some of our most prolific Ex-Jws that all gullible people can listen to be set free from the lies of GB and JW.

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Religion / Re: What Are The Teachings Of Jehovah Witnesses That Are Lies by RussellRutherfo: 9:02pm On Jul 25
peacefulworld01:

Look at yourself,you were disfellowshipped from Jehovah witnesses due to your bad behaviours and u choose to be a blackmailer instead of be remorseful and come back to worship Jehovah in truth.

Firstly,Jehovah witness disfellowship when a member commits a serious sin and choose to be remorseful. it's In accordance with the Bible principle which stated at 1 Corinthians 5:13 which says "while God judges those outside,remove the wicked person from among yourselves" so disfellowship is allowed and there is nothing wrong in it,its a means of protecting the Christian congregation from unrepentant and evil minded fellows who might had crept in.

Once more you have no evidence against the witnesses,rather than resulting to cheap and poor photoshopped black mail you should turn bad from your ways and come back to worship Jehovah.

2)you raised the issue of donation,today Jehovah witnesses are in more than 256 lands and publications are been translated into so many languages,all that is possible from donations,

Blackmail won't stop witnesses from preaching the good news about God kingdom so many prominent men tried and failed and you too would also fail in this your quest.




grin

Shoor!!

Active Publisher.

No worry
You go go Bethel next year.

Jehovah will deal with GB for this wicked brainwashing they do. cheesy cheesy

So in your mind now you are in organization that Worships the true Jehovah with all the lies that have been peddle against Jehovah?!! grin




Yearbook 1940 pp.132,192
"It is quite evident that the witness work is near an end in continental Europe, and this is further proof that Armageddon is near at hand.... One brother writes: ’Jehovah knows that our company had not a sound-car. It is doubtful if we shall have it before
Armageddon. For that reason he has blessed our company with more than usually strong rowers, and boats, and provided us with a territory very rich in lakes' "

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Religion / Re: What Are The Teachings Of Jehovah Witnesses That Are Lies by RussellRutherfo: 8:47pm On Jul 25
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=104089994][/quote]

grin

Like duh!!!

Proverbs 12:22 NKJV — Lying lips are an abomination to the LORD,
But those who deal truthfully are His delight.


cheesy
You want us to sit idly and watch publishers of a lie peddling organization sell their toxins to gullible people.
Haba!!
No na!!

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Religion / Re: What Are The Teachings Of Jehovah Witnesses That Are Lies by RussellRutherfo: 8:39pm On Jul 25
peacefulworld01:

In every twelve there must be a Judas, the RussellRutherfo guy had proved to be not only an unremorseful Judas but a cunning and blackmailing type cheesy

grin
I hear you.
I hope you know that all JWs today are Judases to the late adulterer Judge Rutherford who gave your organization the name in 1931.

If Judge Rutherford is to come back. He would be shocked at how you lots are hiding out his books that contained all that JW false prophecies and lies. Same way he "betrayed" the Sole Discreet Slave, Pastor Russell grin and changed all what Pastor Russell did even changing your names from Russellites to Jehovah witnesses. grin

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Religion / Re: What Are The Teachings Of Jehovah Witnesses That Are Lies by RussellRutherfo: 8:35pm On Jul 25
peacefulworld01:

U are wrong
If of all Jehovah witness official app is the JW app or www.jw.org that is our official website and app.

I don't know about the blackmail website you are propagating but to know about witnesses go and download the JW app from playstore or visit www.jw.org website for clarifications and not promoting fake websites that have no link with Jehovah witnesses.

Thanks

Okay!

Active Publisher of the WatchTower Babble Crap and Tracts Selling Real Estate Society.

We know all these propaganda tactics.
We have been there before so we know these tactics. Do well to research for yourself instead of being a publisher of a lie peddling organization over the years.
Your words will start bending when we start showing you some recorded lies from even JW website. grin

Don't forget to donate your money to those 8 men realtors at USA who control your lives.


We can also talk about the JW pedophile cases that Governing Body hides from majority of the organization.

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Religion / Re: Christianity is Dicey by RussellRutherfo: 8:23pm On Jul 25
chatinent:



Hello there,

It's pellucid in almost every church. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and we don't do all those rubbishes, and businesses prevalent in supposed churches.

I was a Catholic, and I could relate to what you are saying. However, do not relent if you have a thingy for Christianity. You only have to find the right one. My number is beneath this post
.


Divoc19
Whatever, you do. Find Jesus not JW organization. Easy to get in. When you start asking intelligent questions. You will be shunned and ostracized.
Don't ever fall for the lies of JW organisation. Their years of changed teachings and false prophecies even shocks the Devil. cheesy

Religion / Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 8:17pm On Jul 25
MaxInDHouse:
Extremist alert!
Religion / Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 8:16pm On Jul 25
MaxInDHouse:
Extremist alert!!! embarassed

There is freedom of speech, expression and worship. So you're not supposed to give orders to anyone, this is not your house! smiley


grin
Tell that to Ex-Jehovah witnesses who have gone into depression or sometimes suicide as a result of the extremist tactics of the JW organization where family members are shunned. You are trying to speak for your fellow Arian Heretic other cult group Islam where members who leave could get honor killing. You know you were once with them before you jumped to this present Arian Heretical JW organization that feeds off lies. You can join JW but to leave of your own free will or ask questions attracts repercussions. grin

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Religion / Re: What Are The Teachings Of Jehovah Witnesses That Are Lies by RussellRutherfo: 8:10pm On Jul 25
peacefulworld01:
There had been so many misconceptions and theories about Jehovah witnesses.

I want these misconceptions and theories alleging that Jehovah witnesses are not true Christians to be stated here in this thread so that we can know if Jehovah withnesses are misleading Christians and a fake Christian organisation.

What teaching of Jehovah witnesses do you think is misleading,confusing and it's a lie.

Let's discuss!!!!!

Go to Jwfacts.com and get all your answers by Ex-jehovah witnesses on the lies of JW organisation. Don't sneak in here as a Jehovah witness seeking who you will deceive. The JW organization is built on a foundation of lies grin

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Religion / Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 8:05pm On Jul 25
gawu1:

neither are they like igbo Catholics Christians who carry guns and go on robbing people at gun point. They traffic illicit drugs about destroying innocent people's lives and homes.
They have successfully made prostitution a part of Christianity

You this follower of pedophile MuhamMad.

There is no better prostitute than Muhammad. He at 54years slept with a 9year old girl.

Stay out of here or Muhammad gets exposed.
Religion / Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 8:03pm On Jul 25
MaxInDHouse:
Come and see REAL EXTREMIST! cheesy



What if you're wrong in the way you perceive them?
What happens to freedom of worship? cheesy

grin grin

You want us to reel out the real JW extremist quotes especially against the Catholic Church so the people can see.

grin
You know there is no short supply on JW recorded lies. It's everywhere. Only the gullible people still think that Kingdom of Satan is one of Jehovah with the countless lies and hate they have had to others.
You ready?

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Religion / Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 7:44pm On Jul 25
maximunimpact:


Sure they'll still come up with Bible verses to defend the new light, check out some examples below grin


Will the men of Sodom be resurrected?

Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes

Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No

Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes

Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No

Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes

Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No

Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes

Revelation book, p. 273 = No

You dey mind those JW puppets who despite their numerous lies still quote the Bible and are deceiving many for Satan.
Very deceptive people. If not that Christianity is a very liberal faith. No JW should be allowed to touch the Bible. They are such shameless repetitive liars.
They say something in the morning. By Night, they are singing a different Armageddon tune.

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Religion / Jehovah’s Witness Mother Refuses Blood Transfusion Leaving Behind NINE Children by RussellRutherfo: 7:31pm On Jul 25
If a Jehovah’s Witness is in need of a life-saving blood transfusion and no other options are available, they are instructed to die.

This was the case with a woman from Ghana named Rebecca Dankwa. She had had eight previous pregnancies, meaning that her ninth pregnancy was considered “high risk.”

It was thus understandable when even though she successfully delivered her newborn, she began to bleed profusely. She refused the proper medical treatment on religious grounds until it was too late and she died. Was her death inevitable or could it have been avoided?

Years earlier, Watchtower had subjected Dankwa to a religious tribunal, known among Witnesses as a “judicial committee,” because she had accepted a blood transfusion when giving birth to her previous child.

On that occasion also, because she had given birth so many times, she was considered a high risk pregnancy requiring a transfusion. Her religion found her guilty and she was cut off from her friends and family. Only after the leaders in her community and the chiefs from her hometown rallied around her was she eventually reinstated into the congregation, but the experience must have been traumatic.

It could very well be that when confronted with the same situation again she decided to stick to her guns about the transfusion for fear of reprisals. If she had accepted a second transfusion she could have been disfellowshipped again – deemed an unrepentant wrongdoer for being a repeat offender. It’s hard to even imagine the mental and emotional anguish she must have been put through, especially when you consider that she finally relented to receiving a transfusion but only when it was too late.

Dankwa’s decision couldn’t rightly be considered as being taken of her own accord. The pressure her religion placed on her simply cannot be ignored and must be factored into her choice to abstain from a life-saving medical procedure (not to mention that the entire JW doctrine on blood is both nonsensical and unbiblical, as you will see from reviewing the JWFacts article on blood).

No free will, no love
Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that God endowed humanity with free will. Yet, at the same time they have a policy of shunning that pressures members into conforming to their religious standards.

If free will is such an important principle, why not just leave people alone to make decisions for themselves, especially in respect to medical choices concerning life and death?

Also warped is the Witness claim that they are the most loving people on earth. They claim that their group fulfills the standards of love set forth in the Bible that make them unique as “God’s people.”

Was Rebecca Dankwa indeed being faithful to a “God of love” or was she simply influenced by a religion who had real power over her life? Are nine motherless children really what a loving god would want?

This tragic story serves as a perfect example of how loveless Watchtower’s shunning policy truly is. For far too long the organization has intruded upon the private medical decisions of its members. It is high time for them to lighten the load they place on the millions of lives they directly affect. The ball is, and always has been, in their court.

In the meantime the body count continues to increase while so many watch helplessly from the sidelines.


https://jwwatch.org/news/jehovahs-witness-mother-refuses-blood-transfusion-leaving-behind-nine-children


Matthew 12:10-14 NKJV — And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—that they might accuse Him. Then He said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? “Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” Then He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other. Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.


Luke 14:1-6 NKJV — Now it happened, as He went into the house of one of the rulers of the Pharisees to eat bread on the Sabbath, that they watched Him closely. And behold, there was a certain man before Him who had dropsy. And Jesus, answering, spoke to the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?” But they kept silent. And He took him and healed him, and let him go. Then He answered them, saying, “Which of you, having a donkey or an ox that has fallen into a pit, will not immediately pull him out on the Sabbath day?” And they could not answer Him regarding these things.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/lasg-jehovahs-witnesses-clash-over-blood-transfusion-for-baby/%3famp

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Religion / Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 7:05pm On Jul 25
DappaD:


MORE ON:
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/russias-mysterious-campaign-jehovahs-witnesses/story?id=78629389&id=78629389&__twitter_impression=true


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLFTXMErU2Q


How is the WatchTower Governing Body- 8-Men Realtors different from the Russian government? Destroying families through Shunning and Disfellowshipment and practically refusing fathers from talking to even their disfellowshiped children or family members.

Guys, don't fall for this cheap propaganda against the Russian government by the JW organization, a cult mind control group posing as a Christian group. Do you know how many suicides have happened as result of this shunning and disfellowship evil practices by the JW self appointed rulers called the Governing Body?!!

Do you know how many lives have been donated by the JW organization to Satan by refusing the sanctity of life by many who would have been saved by blood transfusion while they engage in anti-government propaganda everywhere to claim otherwise.

How many of you remember the live of that JW girl that was saved as a result of the Lagos State government that the cult mind control group, JW calls evil forcefully using the law to save that girl through blood transfusion:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/lasg-jehovahs-witnesses-clash-over-blood-transfusion-for-baby/%3famp

Imagine, if Lagos State government had not done their part to save that life using the Lagos State government laws. That girl would have sent to Hell by the JW organization, a satanic charlatan lying organization sending many to Hell while claiming victim. This is the kind of thing that they do to the Russia government. Their propaganda no be today. I will show you guys. They castigate Christendom, acted like they castigated Hitler and Nazi while their sole discreet god and slave, Judge Rutherford was writing secret letters to Hitler and was a Jew Hater himself appluading Hitler.

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Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 9:27pm On Jul 18
haddeylium:


Oh! I just noticed your moniker
You must be fan wink

A fan grin
As per say you lie like that Imbecilic looking Stephen Lett- one of your mediators on Earth.

You compliment yourself too much. grin

You quoted a bunch of twisted verses that doesn't prove that the disciples of Jesus gave false Prophecies all in a bid to tell lies against the Bible to justify the lies and specific dates prophecies of your WatchTower Babble Crap and Tracts Selling Real Estate Society.

grin

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Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 9:17pm On Jul 18
haddeylium:


You cannot expect that I should have the same belief and knowledge as you do. However, I respect yours even though I don't agree with them. There are thousands of religions with different teachings and Jehovah's witnesses is among them.
You shouldn't get emotional that their teachings differs from yours.

1914 was a surmise they gave after extensive study of the Bible chronology and the world condition in accordance to the already stated prophesy in the Bible. Yes! They did had a wrong expectation but that date was/is significant.

Yes! The Spirit led about also had a wrong expectation as Jehovah witnesses in their eagerness to witness God's kingdom.
they thought that the Kingdom of God was going to appear instantly. (Lu 19:11)
they're also expecting the restoration of God's kingdom at their time?” (Acts 1:6)


But none of this happened.

However, these faithful men adjusted their understanding of what Jesus was teaching and finally came to an accurate knowledge of truth.
We also are willing to adjust and change in our an effort to pursue the same truth and arrive at the same destination of accurate knowledge.

Have a great day

Employee Publisher.
May you be forgiven for your lies.



Luke 19:11 NKJV — Now as they heard these things, He spoke another parable, because He was near Jerusalem and because they thought the kingdom of God would appear immediately.


They went about teaching this or they thought?!!

Was Jesus still with them or not?

At this stage where the disciples teachers or still learning by following Jesus about? So when Jesus was teaching them via parable. Did they taught or they thought?!
Do you speak or understand English language very well?! Do you know their difference?

The JW organization when they gave authoritatively with specific dates of 1914, 1975 was Jesus with them and where they teaching this or "thoughting"

Are you not ashamed of telling lies against the Bible just so you can justify the lies of JW organisation. Same Bible verses provided by the same lying Governing Body without apologizing for the false lies that they told.


Acts 1:1-9 NKJV — The former account I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach, until the day in which He was taken up, after He through the Holy Spirit had given commandments to the apostles whom He had chosen, to whom He also presented Himself alive after His suffering by many infallible proofs, being seen by them during forty days and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God. And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; “for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. “But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.


Lying Publisher. Did the disciples here when Jesus was to ascend back. Did you see them going about giving a certain year that this or that will happen or the Bible you quoted reported here that instead that they were asking Jesus

Where is the false prophecy here like the 1914, 1975 etcetera by JW cult group? Please show me where. Are you sure you read and understand English language very well or the Governing Body script you crammed off their website is what you are pouring verbatim for us. Do you probably think if I show the Greek you might understand as English language seems difficult for you. I forgotten the Governing Body reads the Bible and think for you. Your own as every other JW is only to reparrot whatever they have said grin

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Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 9:01pm On Jul 18
haddeylium:


Thank you for your comments.
I'm only clear some common misconception about us. I don't debate individuals personal opinion.
Since yours isn't related to the topic. I'll pass cheesy

Have a great day

grin grin
Such a coward.
What misconception are you clearing except regurgitate the propaganda lies of the Governing Body to hoodwink gullible folks while refusing to address the lies in your Organization's recorded history.

Make we no start dey drop una lying records on a back to back thing.

Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 8:58pm On Jul 18
Emusan:


That's nice!

So all the claim of being guided by Holy Spirit, Jehovah himself, Jesus Christ are just NATURAL HUMAN CAPABILITY of the leaders of JWs.

That's why you can't address my questions.

What is the difference between SUPERNATURAL GIFT and being QUIDED BY HOLY SPIRIT, JEHOVAH, OR JESUS CHRIST?



If not because you're a clown, I was force to use that caustic word.

You're the very one who claimed "But in our midst they don't add their spiritual responsibility..."

This supernatural responsibilities is when you admitted that there're still PROPHET TODAY as Jesus said.

Now only to spew another thrash



So being a PROPHET is human human capabilities that's inborn, seriously you need to check the nut that loosen up there.



Nothing to get here, it's obvious your brother made a very nasty mistake for creating this thread which you people are fighting tooth and nail to defend.

Don't blame him. Anyone would be confused when their employer, the Governing Body gives one tract in the morning to cram and sell and by night time. The employer of this WatchTower Babble Crap and Tracts Selling Real Estate Society will give them another tract to cram and sell saying another thing. It can be confusing for them having to deny all that record of lies.
Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 8:55pm On Jul 18
eomajeh:



How do you say they never claim that they bring their surmises "in the name of Jehovah", when they called the 1914 date they pushed "God's date, not ours"? Are you saying that they should have said we bring this 1914 date to you in the name of Jehovah?

How do you say they never claimed to be inspired when they said they are modern-day Ezekiel? Or are you saying ancient Ezekiel was just giving out his understanding?

How do you say they never claimed to be inspired when they say the "sayings" come from God's only channel of communication to mankind, and it's God's provision of meat in due season"?

How do you say they "acknowledge that their surmises may go wrong" when they represent those who do not accept those surmising as spiritually weak and lacking in faith?

JWs are children of Satan.

They record one thing in the morning in their publications.

By night time. They change what they recorded and start trying to mop up all their publications so many won't see their lies.

They are like another side coin of false cults like Islam that repeatedly make effort to deny their records while throwing misinterpreted verses in your face to deceive the itchy ears gullible people.
Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 8:52pm On Jul 18
haddeylium:


That you missed my explanation about this in the second OP post and one of my replies is something
Here we go again answering the same question.

Scripturally,A prophet is a person who receives specific messages from God by supernatural means (such as visions, dreams, the visit of an angel).
That's the definition of a Prophet people are familiar with. Actually the definition is wider!
In that sense, JWs are not Prophet!

Another definition of a prophet is someone that proclaim God's prophetic messages from the Bible. The share the already stated messages in the Bible.

Actually, it is an article in a 1972 Watchtower you misconstrued.
If you check the article, you can notice that we are compared with “prophets” (in inverted commas, mind you) metaphorically, because we publicly proclaim God’s message. Only that that message is the one in the Bible, not a personal divine revelation.

Today the organisation of Jehovah’s Witnesses act like a prophet in that we proclaim an old message, one that was written down in the pages of the Bible. We spread nothing new. The message is both one of good news of better times ahead as well as a warning message. This is similar to the roll that prophet Ezekiel had.
We have never made any false predictions. What we have been guilty of is misunderstanding some of the prophecies that relate to the “end times”

No member of the JWs wake up and said 'Oh! I had a dream and God reveals that..... blah blah ..." Yeah, that would be laughable because our belief is that such gift ends with the apostles.
But, those surmises are what they gave after Group study if the Bible and already stated prophecies in it. At that, they stated in their publications that

Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jesus Christ, they have at times had some wrong expectations.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989228

The Holy Spirit will condemn you people. Always trying to lie that WatchTower Babble Crap and Tracts Selling Real Estate Corporation made false prophecies mistakes like the Apostles.

Show me in the Bible where Apostle Peter and the rest of them where mentioning specific dates like 1914, 1975, etcetera.
Religion / Re: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Prophets? by RussellRutherfo: 8:49pm On Jul 18
haddeylium:
Many people claimed that JWs do not believe in the gift of prophesy as seen today and they also say that JWs are false prophets because they suppossedly have prophesied things that didn’t happen. Yea, this inconsistencies do not flow together.
Out of fairness to the honesthearted people that might be interested in answer, let's examine the facts more closely.

Are Jehovah's Witnesses prophets?

The simple answer is NO!
Never have we claimed to giving out a prophesy ‘in the name of Jehovah'. Infact many of our official journal have said the following;

"We have not the gift of prophecy.” (January 1883, page 425)

“Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible.” (December 15, 1896, page 306)


And Our Watchtower article, however having Jehovah's holyspirit -;

does not mean those now serving as Jehovah’s witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes.” (May 15, 1947, page 157)

“The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic.” (August 15, 1950, page 263)

“The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers.-2 Timothy 3:16 And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. Proverbs 4:18 ”​—February 15, 1981, page 19.


Closer examination shows that never once has the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization claimed to be prophets.

But? Why do people call them a Failed prophets? Do they want to make them one so they can use that adjective? Have they prophesied wrongly in the past?



This Arian Heretical Cult that claims to be Christians when it suits and claims not to be when it doesn't suit them.

What exactly are aiming at with this post?

Deny as usual many of your false prophecies and predictions?!!

Make we start to dey roll film.
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by RussellRutherfo: 7:10pm On Jul 11
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RussellRutherfo: wow, that's one hell of a thorn on the JW. Just passing.


There are several of these Statements by JW children of the Several JW organization child abuse cases. You can download them and read.

I have not been able to read through all of them. The evidences are just numerous. Please mention other JW Nairaland Monikers like

MaxInDHouse
Janosky
DappaD

And the rest of them so they can follow this JW series that I have titled: POWERFUL BY PEDOPHILIA 2021 reading.


Please, I want their names mentioned here so I can create a new thread for them to read what some of their "Truth" brothers did and how GB covers these all.

Statement in the matter of Case Study ·29: Jehovah's Witnesses
Statement of BCB f ontinued
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was already very hard to talk about sex in a room full of men. It was especially hard
to talk about what Bill had done to me while he was sitting there In front of me. I
didn't feel llke It was a safe environment and I was scared of what the consequences
would be If I told the whole truth. Perhaps if a Sister who I was comfortable with had
been there too, It might have been easier
.
58. At the end of the meeting, the Elders asked Bill to say something to me, so he said
"I'm sorry". I took that to mean that he was sorry for everything that had happened,
although his demeanour was not in any way remorseful
and I could tell that he wasn't
sorry. Nobody explained to me what the outcome of the meeting was or if anything
would happen to Bill as a result of what I had reported.
59. After the meeting, Doug Jackson gave me a magazine article that had been published
by the Watchtower a few years before. He encouraged me to read through it
. The
article was about child sexual abuse. At the time, I don't think I had thought of what
had happened to me as child sexual abuse, because Biii hadn't had sex with me. But
reading that article made me realise that what happened to me was child sexual
abuse.
60. I don't remember discussing contacting the police with anybody at any time either
before or after the Committee Meeting.
61. Not long after the Committee Meeting
, Bronwyn Neill rang me and asked me about
my conversation with jBCF : I said to Bronwyn ~ told me that she had been
abused by her uncle and I told hat had happened to me". Bronwyn said to me
"Bill didn't abuse you". I got scared so I said to Bronwyn "/didn't actually say that''.
What I told Bronwyn was true. I had never actually used the word "abuse" when I
spoke to or during my discussions with Elders as I hadn't understood at the
time that I had been abused.
Signature: .......... 1 .... •_c_s ____ _,I Witness: .. ~ ........................



There is a rule in the JW Elder's Manual, Shepherd the Flock of God where effort is made at most for Police not to be contacted quickly.

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When these JWs say that they are in the "Truth" and better than every other group. I wonder to myself by what fictitious yardsticks they do measure this by.

Let's continue our JW's POWERFUL BY PEDOPHILIA series:

Statement in the matter of Case Study 29: Jehovah's Witnesses
Statement of[BCB !continued
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62. As soon as I got off the phone to Bronwyn, I rang Max Horley to tell him about what
Bronwyn had said to me. He told me that he'd sort it out. Later that day, Max rang
me back and said to me._l s_cs ____,I the Neilfs have asked that you not tell any more
people about Bill out of respect for the family". I respected Max and did as I was told.
I didn't tell anyone else about what had happened to me, not even my best friend at
the time. Thinking back, I now see that I was being asked to respect the man who
had done those things to me, but nobody was offering me any respect or proper
support
.
63. A few weeks after the Committee Meeting, the Elders announced to the congregation
that Bill had stepped down as an Elder. I was sitting In the congregation at the time.
The Elders did not .. announce to the congregation why Bill was standing down.
Although I understood the reasons for privacy, I have since felt that people in the
congregation should have been warned about someone like Bill.

64. After the Committee Meeting, I don't recall being offered any support by Doug
Jackson or Ma1x Horley, though it's possible that they may have said something to
me. Overall however, I remember that I didn't feel supported. No one in the
congregation talked to me about what had happened to me, and Bill's wife, Bronwyn,
ignored me for some time. This was especially hard because I loved Bronwyh like a
mother.

Life after rep.orting the abuse
65. Even though I had reported what Bill had done, I was still expected to attend Book
Study meetings that were being held at the Neill's house. I continued to see Bill
several times a week at congregational meetings and at annual district conventions.
Everything just seemed to carry on as normal, but I felt physically sick every time I
saw Bill.

Signature: .......... j,_B_C_B ____ ___.1 ........ . Witness : ... 1'l?.::". ......................... .


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Matthew 7:15 NKJV — “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by RussellRutherfo: 6:53pm On Jul 11
MaxInDHouse:
To brother Janosky.

Please leave the arguments and let whoever wants to discredit God's people continue talking to themselves.

One of them has given the greatest EVIDENCE we need on this forum that cannot be undone!



This commentator has put Mr RussellRutherfo to silence because it's exactly what i'm asking him that this commentator typed with his own fingers in the highlighted!

Which means there is no other Organization worth associating with than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. Perhaps someone can correct me if i'm wrong because that's what i grasped out of his epistle.

So if Mr RussellRutherfo can't PRESENT a better performing group and one of the critics says there's no other gathering that's better than JWs then it's obvious that they're just deceiving themselves! smiley

Even Voodoo groups outperform the JW organization with these records I implore you to read.

Statement in the matter of Case Study 29: Jehovah's Witnesses
Statement of !BCB I continued ,.
Disclosure of the abuse
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47. In 1989, I told my now husband Bcc I that Bill used to kiss me. I dreaded telling him
and I couldn't bring myself to tell him any more detail about what happened than
this. When I told him, he started asking me questions about what exactly had
happened and I said to him "Don't worry, it's all over now". I didn't want to say
anything more because I was scared that ~ould tell someone.
48. Later, in or around 1991, a Jehovah's Witness acquaintance of mine, IBCF I told me
that she had been abused by her uncle and that she had tried to commit suicide. I
told her what happened to me but I didn't mention any names. Somehow she
guessed that I was talking about Bill. I freaked out and asked her not to tell anyone
.
Response of the Jehovah's Witnesses to the abuse
49. I guess that IBCF I did tell others in the congregation as, a week or so later, a young
Elder from the congregation called Max Horley came to speak to me. Initially, I had
no idea why he had come to see me, but he eventually revealed that he had come to
talk to me about Biii and me. When he said this, I burst into tears.
50. I told Max about most of what Bill had done, but I couldn't mention the final
bathroom incident when Bill had had MouthAction with me. I was so ashamed. Max was
very kind and supportive. He told me that what had happened was not my fault and
that I shouldn't blame myself.
51. Soon after, Max arranged a meeting with Bill, IBCC I and me at my house. I don't
remember anyone explaining the purpose of the meeting to me. At that meeting, Max
said to me. "I believe Bill asked you if you wanted to see his penis, and you said no". I
assumed that he was referring to the incident in the bedroom the morning after Bill
had MouthAction with me in the bathroom, even though I had not told him about this

Signature: ........ l~ B ____ ~I · Witness:&.r.::Y$.~ .......................... .


Statement in the matter of Case Study 29: Jehovah's Witnesses
Statement oftBCB !continued
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incident myself. Bill looked at me and said "Don't you think I was joking?" and I said
"I don't know". I didn't understand why someone would joke about that sort of thing.
Nobody at the meeting said anything about Bill's comment. I sti ll don't understand
why no one at the meeting told Bill that you shouldn't joke about those sorts of
things
.
52. I did not talk about the incident in the bathroom at the first meeting. I didn't feel
comfortable talking while Bill was in the room.
53. After that first meeting, I felt like there was a lot of stuff I had been unable to say In
front of Bill. I decided to go to Max's house after the meeting to clarify things. As a
result of our conversation at his house, Max organised a second meeting at my
house.
54. The second meeting was attended by Max Harley, Doug Jackson, Bill, my husband
-IBCC I and me. Doug Jackson was the Circuit Overseer for the Narrogin Congregation.
Max told me this meeting was a "Committee Meeting". I was not aware at the time
what the purpose of the meeting was, or why Doug Jackson was attending.

55. During the Committee Meeting, Bill was defensive. He said that I used to wear
revealing clothing. I remember that Doug Jackson made it quite clear to both of us
that the Church has never allowed the victim's clothing as an excuse
.
56. Throughout the meeting, Bill looked at me defiantly. I felt like he was challenging me
to tell the full story of what he had done. I felt uncomfortable and could not bring
myself to tell the Elders everything that had happened. I felt like I was still Bill's
victim. I was still so scared of saying anything that would get me or Bill into trouble.
57. I remember that at one point in the meeting, Max said to me "is there anything else
you wish to tell us?". I remember looking across the room at Bill and saying "no"
. It
Signature: ........ l" ...._C_B ____ _.I m
Wltness:.~~F.C'.. ........................ .


Bill,the JW elder acted here the same way that Janosky would have. grin Try and make the truthful person look like the liar while making sure JW is not "mocked".

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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by RussellRutherfo: 6:24pm On Jul 11
MaxInDHouse:

Please brother let's focus on the topic of discussion, if anyone wants to join the floor is open but we shouldn't allow APOSTATES to have their way with us! Luke 16:24-26 smiley


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JW quoting Luke 16:24-26 as regards Apostates.

How do these correlate? grin
I don't understand how you people quote the Bible sometimes. Like the Devil quoting Scriptures that have no correlation just like he did to Jesus after His Fasting.

JW now believes in Hell fire? grin grin

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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by RussellRutherfo: 6:02pm On Jul 11
MaxInDHouse:
To brother Janosky.

Please leave the arguments and let whoever wants to discredit God's people continue talking to themselves.

One of them has given the greatest EVIDENCE we need on this forum that cannot be undone!



This commentator has put Mr RussellRutherfo to silence because it's exactly what i'm asking him that this commentator typed with his own fingers in the highlighted!

Which means there is no other Organization worth associating with than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. Perhaps someone can correct me if i'm wrong because that's what i grasped out of his epistle.

So if Mr RussellRutherfo can't PRESENT a better performing group and one of the critics says there's no other gathering that's better than JWs then it's obvious that they're just deceiving themselves! smiley


Max,

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I rate you higher than that clown called Janosky.

Why are you falling hand like this?

So if a Wole Soyinka wakes up tomorrow and claims all these you wrote about Deeper Life and JW then I must head over to Deeper Life. grin grin

Am I Deeper Life member?

Why are you fixated on groups to be to follow Jesus? So if tomorrow Religious group are all totally disbanded by suppose a Worldwide Atheist Government and all these Group leaders killed inclusive of GB then the journey of following Christ will automatically end for you as there won't be another Cult group to join.

This so called "False Prophet". Invite him over to see some of what JW elders do behind their smiles. I have evidences to fill two Kingdom Halls.

Let's not be distracted from the series I have started which is titled JW's POWERFUL BY PEDOPHILIA:

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses



Statement i1 t he matter Jf Case Study 29: Jehovah's Witnesses
Statement of BCB continued
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my underwear. Thankfully, someone came into the kitchen at that point and Bill
stopped and left me alone in the pantry.
38. In or around October 1986, I left my job REDACTED I
I was very
unhappy at the time because I was feeling pressured by people In the Narrogin
Congregation to preach full-time
.
39. After I left my job REDACTED , I moved in to the Neill's house for a couple of
months, while I was looking for a new job in Narrogin was stlil living at home
when I moved in with the Neill family.
40. Bill continued to harass me while I lived at the Neill house. At the same time, he
remained a respected~ Elder in the Congregation. I became really resentful of him. I
stopped referring to him as "Uncle Bill" and instead referred to him as "Bill". Looking
back, I think this was my way of rebelling against him.

41. One day, at the end of 1986 when I was 19, I had been having a shower in the family
bathroom at the Neill's house. Although the rule in the Neill house was not to lock the
bathroom door, I used to lock the door because I wanted my privacy. That day, I had
just stepped out of the shower and was naked when the door suddenly opened and
Bill walked in. I don't know how Bill unlocked the door. I guess that he may have
unlocked it with a knife, or even his finger nail. I know that Bill didn't walk in by
accident because of the way he quickly opened the door, closed it again behind him,
and stood against it, trapping me inside.

42. Bill then told me "Sit on the floor and open your legs". I didn't want to do what he
was asking but his manner was very threatening. I felt humiliated and scared. Biil
then started handling me and put his finger in my vagina. He then told me to stand up
and he proceeded to perform MouthAction on me. I felt disgusted and uncomfortable
. I
Signature:.l._BCB __ _,I Witness:~··· ········· ········ ······


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Brother Bill, the JW Elder doing some Bethelite theocratic handwork at the last paragraph. Rutherford who had one with his secretary would have been so proud of this JW elder named Bill. I can imagine the "worldly" Court people imagining what despicable JWs these hypocrites while they read these abuse cases written and signed by JW youths..



Statement in the matter of Case Study 29: Jehovah's Witnesses
Statement oflBCB f ontinued
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17

knew that sex was something that people were meant to enjoy a,nd I remember
thinking that there must be something wrong with me because I didn't like what was
happening.
43. The next day I was lying In bed in my room feeling sick when Bill came into the room.
He said to me "Did you like it?". I assumed he was referring to the bathroom incident.
Pointing at his crotch he said to me "It's better with this in". I asked him to leave
and
he did. Once he had left the room, I got up, packed my bags, and went home to my
parents' farm without saying goodbye to ~
44. In or around early 1987, I remember telling IBCE lthat I had been seeing a couple of
boys. Not long after I told her that, IBCE !told me that Bill wanted to talk to me about
. my relationship with boys. She told me to meet Bill at the Neill family house. Even
though the meeting was at his house, I understood that I was being asked to see Bill
in his capacity as an Elder and that I had to do as I was told. I would never have
chosen to speak to Bill about my relationships with boys otherwise.
45. When I got to his house, Bill asked me to wait inlBCE Is room. He came into the room
and asked me: "Can you show me your boobs?''. Although I had come to expect this
behaviour from Bill, I remember feeling shocked that he was asking me this. I
remember that I let him look down my top. I don't know why I did what he asked.
Looking back, I feel as though he could control me. Bill then said to me something
like: "Can you make yourself orgasm?". I said "Yes" and he repl ied to me "I thought
so, you dirty bitch
. "
46. Bill was an Elder for as long as I knew him. I wasn't able to see at the time, but
everything he did to me was in complete disregard of all the Jehovah's Witness rules,
some of which he preached, about sex and association between Brothers and Sisters
.
Slgnature: ......... l..._ BCB ___.f ........ Witness: r;!l::~:Jf.L ...................... .



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grin Brother Bill, the JW elder speaking some theocratic tongues at 45.
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by RussellRutherfo: 5:30pm On Jul 11
Janosky:


Your claim is GIBBERISH.

[b]Source: reuters.com
In 2017, Australia ended a five-year powerful government inquiry into institutional child sex abuse, which came up with 122 recommendations, including that Australia introduce a law forcing religions leaders to report child abuse. [REUTERSNEWS-T004/Id635fe00e15211e7acb4cd90b8c479ce
]

Australia's Cardinal George Pell, who is appealing a conviction for sexually assaulting two teen-aged choir boys, has been so far the most senior Catholic official worldwide to be jailed for child sex offences.[/b]

Bros, which year did Australian legal system enact laws for mandatory reporting of abuse?

Australian legal system says where there is no law, there is no crime.

Rutherfo claim of a cover up is GIBBERISH.
Bros, argue with your keyboard
.

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More evidences on JW's POWERFUL BY PEDOPHILIA

You can lie very well. Don't worry when Stephen Lett dies and goes to take his limited 144,000 space in Hell. You will do a good job of replacing him as part of the lying slave class. You will do a good job at it. You already have the attribute of lying and twisting facts.


People hope you all are downloading these evidences from the Court's official website and reading for yourselves of the acts of many of these JW pedophiles that knock on your doors that GB pays secret huge financial sums to cover up too.

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses



Statement in the matter of Case Study 29: Jehovah's Witnesses
Statement of IBCB !continued
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happening, I was protecting her. I thought that if she found out, It might cause her
family to break up. I now wish I had told her.
28. On one occasion in or around 1983, Bill and I were out doing door-to-door preaching
together. I remember that at some point, we were alone in Bill's Combl van. Bill said
to me "What shall we do about our little problem?". I said to him"/ don't know
". Bill
then asked me "Do you want me to talk to Brother Shay/or about It? You know if I do
that though, your mum and dad will find out". I replied "No" to Bill because when he
mentioned that my parents would find out, I got scared.
29. I was surprised that Bill suggested speaking to Brother Shaylor. At the time, I already
felt guilty about what Bill was doing to me. But when Bill suggested speaking to
,
Brother Shaylor, it removed any doubt in my mind that what was happening between
Biii and me was my fault.
30.At the end of 1983, having completed Year 10, I left high school. The following year, I
studied a business course and fn around April 1984, I got a job REDACTED
'fl!•j!'!•I I c:oritlnued to stay at the Neill house regularly from around this time until
the end of 1986.
31. One night, In or around 1984 when I was about 17, I stayed overnight at the Neill
family house. While I was showering in the bathroom with the door locked I heard a
noise. I looked up and saw Bill perving on me over the top of the shower curtain. I
guess he must have been standing on the basin to be able to see. I don't know how,
but I assume that Bill had unlocked the bathroom door from the outside. I screamed
"Get out/" at Biii and he left the room. Biii and I never spoke of the shower incident.

32. On another night, also in 1984 and not long after the shower incident, I remember
that Bill came into ~ room where she and I were making lots of noise and threw
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Statement in the matter of Case Study 29: Jehovah's Witnesses Page 7 of
Statement of 17 iBCB ![/b]continued
me over the bed. He started belting me across my buttocks wit~ his belt. It really
stung me and afterwards I had a dark welt across my backside. Apart from the
physical pain, I remember feeling humiliated, angry and shocked by what Bill had
done.
33. [b]On 26 October 1985, I was formally baptised as a Jehovah's Witness in a ceremony
that involved being submerged In a pool of water. At the baptism, many of the other
girls wore modest swimming costumes with t-shirts over the top. I remember that Bill
refused to letfBCE lor I wear t-shirts over the top of our swimming costumes.

34. [b]In or around 1985, when I around 18, I noticed Bill's behaviour towards me became
more sexual. He used to say things to me In front of his wife Bronwyn and In front of
jBCE I like "You re 'a nymphomaniac" and "If you weren't in the truth, you'd be a
prostitute". What he said [/b]didn't make sense to me because I was a virgin.
35. I recall that on one occasion in or around the end of 1985, Bill tongue-kissed me In
his lounge room. As he was doing it, I heard Bronwyn say sharply "Bill!". I remember
thinking that ,we would be trouble but nothing more was said about the incident by
Bronwyn or Bill.
36. Up until the summer of 1985-86, I thought Biii's behaviour was just something
unpleasant that I had to put up with so I could have a good time with jBCE I and the
rest of the Neill family, who I liked.
37. One day in the summer of 1985-86, while I was in the pantry in the kitchen of the
Neill family house, Biii came In, shut the door and started kissing me. As I was older
by then, I felt able to try and resist his kissing. Bill yelled at me and said to kiss him.
He pushed me up against the wall and told me to pull my dress up so he could see




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JW is always truthful (*2).

You no go see all Pedophilia pornography by their JW elders reported on their website.

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If they are so truthful.
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We are in the "truth".

I hope guys you are all downloading these evidences and having a nice reading time.

I will create a new thread later just to expose many of these by JW.

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