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PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:41pm On Jul 13, 2021
Very lame Fulani herdman.
ArabicBerber:
I literally broke it down and explained it to you in the most basic detail and you brushed it aside because it's not what you want to hear before scribbling your own imagination.


It's literally on the website and explained in early videos on the YouTube page. That article is from a novice reporter from 2019. It has little to no credibility whatsoever. Go with whatever helps you sleep at night man but remember trying to bring down Eko Atlantic & other projects want resurrect Konza from the dead.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:09pm On Jul 13, 2021
Why not put the link of the article - must have been written last decade. Eko Altantic has no promise.

First Nigerian economy is sick and people are broke - Victoria Island, Ikoyi and Banana Island already have vacancy rates as high as 30 per cent in their wealthier areas.


Eko City itself has essentially stalled...and more than 10yrs since 2009...there are two completed towers..that have zero occupancy rate...money thrown down the drain LITERALLY. It may take another decade before anybody lives in Eko City.

https://republic.com.ng/june-july-2019/african-mega-city-addiction/

ArabicBerber:
Eko Atlantic is a smart city being built on reclaimed land from the ocean using reable malleable materials in a time where climate change is a massive issue. These malleable materials take 10-15 years to fully settle. Any widespread MASSIVE contruction until then will result in both an ecological & infastructurial disaster.

They have to perform soil test for each plot they use. It's more an extension of Lagos than an actual separate city. The plots for schools, hospitals, housing etc has long been bought out. They have already layed down the sewage & power grid

With lekki free zone, Orange Island, Periwinkle island, Imperial international business city island reaching completion contruction is about to explode from here own out in these coming years.

Egypt's New Administrative Capital, Nigeria's Eko Atlantic and similar island developments along with Morroco's Casablanca Marina Project & Ch'rafate are the most promising smart city projects so far deep in development.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:22pm On Jul 13, 2021
Information on Nairobi is easy to find and verify. The house of any budget - house hunting in Kenya is a one-afternoon affair - you just walk around - and every apartment has TO LET sign - you pay a monthly rent and a month deposit - and you're in - no need for electricity deposit coz it pre-paid.

You can arrive at the airport today and in about an hour - you've rented a house - for a month - with all utilities - for less than 50 dollars - if you want to stay in studio or single room in concrete slum

1) 2,500 in pipeline - that is 20 euros a month - has DSTV connection, internet, name it. You pay 25 dollars one month and one month deposit -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDJv--t33qE&t=241s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5k1Ufvfpc
2) 5,000 - about 45 euors - one bedroom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfV0A3ETn6w

6,000ksh kenya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECQBmIhM7RQ
Just30:
In kenya, they pay 30 Euros to live in shacks
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:11pm On Jul 13, 2021
Ethiopia ill trained Militia of an army arrested by Tigrays rebels in thousands
https://twitter.com/declanwalsh/status/1414595830057742339/photo/1

PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:03pm On Jul 13, 2021
15yrs later - 2 completed towers.
Vlain:
I have never seen a place half as beautiful,developed and stunning like this in east Africa backwater. This is first world stuff not shitty Chennai or Delhi stuff. Kenya think BIGGER! BIGGER!! BIGGER!!!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3SusL5AJu0
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:38am On Jul 13, 2021
Facts is 1) It takes your about 1 hour to get house, pay for it and rent in Nairobi 2) It about six times cheaper than Lagos. There is house for every budget.

And we adding 500,000 more.

Vlain:
Nope. 90% of Nairobi’s residence are like what was seen in that video or worst off like kibera and mathare like slums. It’s called slumscraper nigga.that ain’t something to be proud of. Just nuke Nairobi already.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:35am On Jul 13, 2021
Almost zero completed project since 2014 - when oil tanked - and send your economy to recession. In the same period Kenya GDP has doubled - the number of projects completed staggering - that is why Nairobi is now 4th Most Dynamic City in the world.
Vlain:
@ bolded is that the nonsense u tell urself to feel better about Kenya-lol must be comforting.

FYI weasel that project is not our sgr.it’s a light rail-I know things like this are like rocket science in your inferior zoo-you gladly opted in for some century old Spanish garbage than go modern- And no we have completed 2 sgr line since this thread commenced-And three more are under construction as we speak. Our list of completed project are endless,talk of airport Alone In such very few years.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:31am On Jul 13, 2021
No, in West Africa, they stay in the backyards of the main house, that they pay rent for one year, and such. In fact getting a house is so difficult people have to bandy together - or even borrow 2yr loan.

Your housing sector is undeveloped.

Nairobi has every kind of housing for every kind of need. Each on their own zones. There is no mixing!

This a kilometer from that pipeline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BElEwR1CIU

Just30:
Good you know that those places are terrible slums that no human being should be staying in....

I wont even dignify it with a comparison to anywhere in Ghana....

In Ghana, those who are starting life, live in better self compound accommodations and apartments
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:07am On Jul 13, 2021
More speeches - yet since 2016 - when this kind of thread started - that is 5yrs ago - not a single projec in entire of Nigeria has been completed. Just a litany of abandoned projects like I hears Ghana is famous for.

Kenya projects in that period are staggering. SGR done in 3yrs - and now it been in operation for ages. Only 9 months of Nairobi expressway and within 12 months it will be completed.

I can go on and on - but Kenya is rapid growth - and projects get done on time - mostly ahead of very tight schedule.

Nairobi skyline changing every day so much it's now jumped from no 20, 10, 6, and 4 of JLLC most dynamic city.

Vlain:
Oh pls be gone with this overinflated,overhyped nonsense.I watched the video and Nairobi still loooks the same.ain’t no fave changed yet. When u are ready you can get serious and make some big boys move.this is Lagos red line train-kicked off two months whos,and to me completed last quarter of next year-not ur usual Spanish dustbin of a train(wtf commuter train in 2021) . Your zoo love inferiority so much and that why you opted for that nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wTP2ecoLTE
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:13pm On Jul 12, 2021
Pipeline concrete slumscrappers have more highrises than Accra and Kumasi combined. Many such concrete slumscrappers in Nairobi for young people who are starting life - and want to get a studio or self-contained for 30-50 dollars a month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFcG7roY_dE&t=54s
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
I think you wanted to say how does an intersection in the middle of nowhere turn Accra into anything but a shanty town. Otherwise, if you meant Africa's only elevated highway - that seek to slash commute time along that nearly 30km busy corridor from 2hrs to 20mins! hen you're confirming as you won't daily your mental illness.

This road will potentially reduce commute time along that section 6 times!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a8PVXJ_qfk&t=7s

See comments like this - am from jhb but I can promise you that Nairobi is becoming Africa's biggest metropolis in the next few years. All funds are going to head that side for a number of reasons. If I want to invest, that is also my first choice.

Useless arguments, when presented with video evidence like this, should really cease

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H2mz5bLB8w

Just30:
How does a road turn Nairobi world class?
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:56pm On Jul 12, 2021
2B dollars budget smiley to finance 360,000 troops
kikuyu1:
The general state of the army barracks...


[url][https://iwpr.net/global-voices/nigerias-army-barracks-left-high-and-dryurl]

SIGHHHH....
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:54pm On Jul 12, 2021
How does a bus terminal help Lagos WORD worst commute. When will Lagosians stop waking up at 4am to get to work - and arrive at 10 pm - back home?
Vlain:
A single lane on thika highway doesn’t inspire anyone.we long left this baby steps 15 years ago.now we are rolling on multiple airport like terminal as bus terminals. Get that into ur head
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:53pm On Jul 12, 2021
Naija is a zoo - it regularly occurence for oil tankers to explode and kill hundreds. The country has little in global media to report anything. What goes on in that country is shocking. Boko Haram kills hundrends weekly, as do fulani herdsmen.
kikuyu1:
I decided to take a hard look at the 'Giant' army and FK me the systemic PROBLEMS are DEEP even for their own abysmal standards in ALL things.
Heard of the Ikeja cantonment blasts 2002?


[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Lagos_armoury_explosion/url]

...OHHH, NAIJ!?

WTF allows a fkn street market within spitting distance of 155 mm shells!?
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:47pm On Jul 12, 2021
Kenya is doing very well - look at our gold standard median lane BRT. This will dwarf Lagos ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8GFfXIAyAQ

Vlain:
Worry about Kenya.u are still hopelessly wallowing in third world and here worrying over a country that has got a strong semblance to a first world nation. Ur zoo is in a pit-that should be your headache.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:35pm On Jul 12, 2021
It's deeper than that - it's 1st world and 3rd world co-existing in the same country - and the country trying to find it's balance.
Vlain:
Stfu.This can happen anywhere.it’s happened in America last year -it’s has also happened in France. Heck we saw even worst with the Donald trump saga.


Kenya will forever remain the shadow of SA whether U like it or not.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
Okay differentiate btw INSURGENTS and Lone terrorists. Boko Haram are insurgents seeking to install islamic rule in Nigeria and they occupy territory. They don't need to go to Lagos or Abuja to make a point.

The terrorists who attacked US in 9-11 are NOT INSURGENT.

Now let move to Kenya. Kenya for many years has been the target of Islamic terrorists. This is because Kenya for many years has been Pro-Isrealis - pro-American - Pro-British - and Nairobi host the UN and many global media houses.

So for the terrorist - attacking Nairobi is as good as attacking London or Newyork. Attacking Mombasa or Nairobi jewish business is their biggest dream.

The number of such terrorists thwarted in Kenya are many - and for many years - Kenya Anti terror squad work closely with CIA/Mossad to get them - Most of them coming from Somalia - where we share 1000KMs border with.

Somalia is a well-known hub of Alshabaab - and they controlled that country for many years - but has never dared to come to Kenya - expect sending lone attackers to stage terror activities.

What Nigeria is facing is NOT terrorism per see - it's insurgency by Islamist - like Somali gov is facing with Alshabaab or Mali gov is facing with Islamic Jihaad.

Kenya last fought insurgency war in 1960s and 1970s - the Shifta War - Somali seccesionist that wanted to annex Kenya North East to be part of Somalia.

Boko Haram is not sending 2 or 3 men to cause chaos as matrrys - they are fighting to create an islamic caliphate in there - they are occupying huge territory of Nigeria - they have local administrators and run affairs there - and they are fighting on the ground.

That is an insurgency - and not terrorism - and it requires counterinsurgency military operation - that likes Nigeria/MALI/SOMALIA/CHAD/AFGAN/YEMEN have FAILED SPECTACULARLY FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

Terrorism requires police and intelligence (CIA/MOSSAD) - and in Kenya, this is handled by Kenya Police Anti-Terror squad - as you're dealing with lone wolves.
https://www.cid.go.ke/index.php/sections/formations/atpu.html

ArabicBerber:
Is this the same Kenya that annually allows Islamists insurgents to March into your National Capital City and regional capitals uncontested to reap havoc and cause chaos? The same Kenya where Islamist patrol Mombass streets at night like religious gangs? Nearly every other country in Africa that have insurgents wiether that be Egypt, Algeria, Nigeria, Mali or wherever there typically contained to the far reaches outback of the countries away from the vast majority of the population.

Even in Nigeria and MALI the insurgents don't reach state capitals there trapped in the desert. Kenya appears barely more secure than Somalia and Libya. Don't get me started on the plethora of videos on the internet of the KDF getting ambushed and whipped out/captured in Somalia. Drop this false bravado.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 3:48pm On Jul 12, 2021
The road that is transforming Nairobi into a world class city.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIX-2rGcbtY&t=12s
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 3:35pm On Jul 12, 2021
Amazulu protesting (looting) in Azania after jailing of Zuma. I see our Shackman is offline - he might be busy looting too. I keep saying South Africa prognosis is bad. This middle class country finding it's sub saharan level.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9klnGj67xA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUA-3WEsKHk
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
To defeat Boko Haram - Nigeria soldiers should be sent to Kenya for a year training on Counterinsurgency. Kenya Army under British Army have lot of experience dealing with such kind of wars. Beginning with Mau Mau. The British waged the first successful counter-insurgency in Malaysia and then Kenya in 1950s - and that has become the template for fighting guerrilla or such unconventional warfare.

The most important aspect is to win the population of the muslim north east - so as you kill BH - the army need to have humaniterian wing building schools, providing food and name it - for without KANURI civilian support - Nigeria army is wasting time.

KDF use such counter-insurguency methods in Somalia and all over....as most modern wars now are of that nature.


To quote this article

military successes achieved in Kenya and cyprus
can be largely attributed to the appropriation from the
malayan experience of what
shall be identified here as
three key strategies: access
to adequate resources,
tactical flexibility and civil-military cooperation
. the
first, access to adequate
resources and experience,
was a vital precondition for
the successful use of force
against the insurgents

https://www.mindef.gov.sg/oms/content/dam/imindef_media_library/graphics/pointer/PDF/2013/Vol.39%20No.2/7)%20V39N2_Lessons%20from%20the%20British%20Counterinsurgency%20Strategies%20Applied%20in%20Malaya,%20Kenya%20and%20Cyprus.pdf

the actual guerrilla wars in Kenya and cyprus
were met with a combination of military and police
forces that conducted operations largely according
to the malayan blueprint. the earlier stages of
each campaign were characterised by conventional
large-scale operations, such as jungle-sweeps or
extensive cordon-andsearch operations , meant
to pressure the insurgents
and keep them on the run.
these methods, although
notoriously inefficient,
----------------------------------NIGERIA IS STUCK HERE.
kept up the pressure on
the insurgents and could
reap handsome rewards on
occasions. for example,
the massive cordon-and-search
operation around the paphos forest in cyprus in
June 1956, operation pepperpot, secured the highly
valuable personal papers of the eoKa commander
general grivas.9
still, victory ultimately depended on the second
key strategy: tactical flexibility, embodied most in the
small-unit tactics that intensified as the emergencies
progressed. the decentralisation of command and
control was crucial in achieving this in malaya.

0 counterinsurgency is a subaltern’s or
even a corporal’s war. this was appreciated in Kenya,
where frank Kitson was given sufficient freedom to
develop his highly effective “pseudo-gang” strategy,
which involved creating counter-gangs of surrendered
mau mau insurgents that made contact with and gain
intelligence from real mau mau units
.11 in cyprus,
where urban terrorism was more rampant than in
malaya or Kenya, small-unit tactics were successfully
adapted to the terrain of urban warfare. a favourite
tactic, well established by 1957, was the “snatch,”
where a small party darted into a specified house
to snatch eoKa terrorists from their very beds.12
tactical flexibility in adapting malayan small-unit
strategies to the environments in Kenya and cyprus
was instrumental to successes there

military success also relied heavily on the third
key strategy: civil-military cooperation. the sheer
complexity of the counterinsurgency campaigns
necessitated close cooperation between the civil
administration, the police and the military
. the
apparatus for such cooperation was provided in
malaya through an elaborate committee system
at the district, state and federal levels, designed
under harold Briggs, director of operations from
1950 to 1952.13 this system, which provided for
regular liaisons between all the parties engaged in
counterinsurgency operations, was closely replicated
in Kenya and cyprus
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:49am On Jul 12, 2021
Why can't Nigeria Army Military Intelligence identify those politicians and arrest them - and court-martial them. In kenya - I don't think anybody will want to get into a theatre of war - where KDF is involved. It just cannot happen. It UNTHINKABLE. Army are outside constitution almost - so nobody want to get into their way.

If you politicians do not fear your army - then there is BIGGER PROBLEM. Army main role is to be a deterrent. And it the last option.

In kenya - people fear paramilitary police called GSU - but they dread KDF smiley - KDF remember as KAR were bombing MauMau in 1950s and in few times they have been operation in kenya like Shifta seccession war with Somalia or little rebellion in Mt Kenya - KDF will bomb the shiet out of that place.

As for Kenya please stop the comparison - it's day and night.

A few terrorist coming to kenya is POLICE (internal security) failure. Our police forces is admittedly VERY CORRUPT and mostly incompetent.

If terrorists were to occupy territory in kenya - that is ARMY failure.

obaaderemi:
Point out where I said politicians interfere with the army.
I said politicians aid the terrorists and fund them. They also get a lot of aid from outside the country. Jonathan couldn't fight terrorists properly because America and Britain wouldn't sell him weapons since there was a grand plan to oust him.

In spite of all these, boko haram has been confined to the remote places. They are been attacked all the time by the army and they can't advance into our major cities of Abuja and Lagos. Unlike alshabaab that attacks Nairobi with ease and kill your soldiers like chickens in Somalia. grin

No matter how you twist it.. the Nigeria army is far more armed than the Kdf, even with our large personnel.
So where is your $1bn going if you have just 20,000 soldiers and still do not have enough tanks and no fighter helicopters?
just drop this military comparison. You have nothing in terms of military stuff. wink
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:44am On Jul 12, 2021
How do politicians interfere with military operation? That is just crazy excuse. In kenya yes the police - because it under civilians - will be interfered with by politicians - but KDF has only one civilian - the president - who is the commander.

Once military operation has been okayed by Buhari - then what else is there to negotiate about.

Just admit your army is corrupt - and sell weapons to BH. Or that Buhari has no money to finance a modern army - 2B dollars for 360,000 army is big joke.

obaaderemi:
Politics. That's the messy thing about the Boko Haram thing. Some powerful people in government aid them, I mean northern Nigeria politicians. You can see the whole thing is limited to a part of northern Nigeria, especially Borno state.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:41pm On Jul 11, 2021
my last before I go watch England and Italy. In kenya KDF officer if they as much as misbehave in a bar - and Military Police hear it - they are home. KDF office cannot threaten or even insult a kenya. That is getting fired.

Nigeria you hear people threatening others with army uncle or such. In kenya that would strange. Nobody even know KDF - army officer knows better - that even threatening - leave alone beat someone - is straight ticket home.

In fact you never really hear of KDF officer in a bar; or anywhere in social places; they hide.

KDF soldier out of barracks you will never KNOW. After their work is done - they become civilains - and try as much to behave.

One mistake is tragic.

Kenya Police is something else..KDF most kenyans do not even know if they exist. They are very silent....they literally hide. Any indiscipline is court martial..inside or outside barracks.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:26pm On Jul 11, 2021
In all out war in a computer - NO - yeah play those games kid
AfriqueDuZuid:
So in your mind you think Yemen can beat Saudi in all out war? undecided
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:25pm On Jul 11, 2021
The UN SC who have entrusted Kenya Army to missions in Europe, Middle East and Asia. South Africa - Congo alone is a mess- DRC gov has run to Kenya to help them. Why did Congo that is part of SADC run to KENYA - TZ and South Africa have failed.

The President said the KDF is admired both at home and internationally for their discipline and professionalism.

Kenya soldiers have maintained high professional standards – Uhuru
By Koome Kimonye For Citizen Digital
time updated Published on: May 23, 2016 15:50 (EAT)
Kenya soldiers have maintained high professional standards - Uhuru
President Uhuru Kenyatta on Monday applauded the Kenya Defence Forces for maintaining high standards that has earned them global respect as well as the role they have played in Somalia.
He said the continuous participation of Kenyan military personnel in these missions reflects the confidence that the United Nations and, in particular, the Security Council, has in the Kenya Defence Forces.


https://citizentv.co.ke/news/kenya-soldiers-have-maintained-high-professional-standards-uhuru-127573/

AfriqueDuZuid:
Who said kenyan defense is disciplined and professional than other defence forces?

What criteria was used thereof?

Tell us smiley
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:24pm On Jul 11, 2021
I know of proxy servers - including reverse proxies.
AfriqueDuZuid:
Do you know proxy wars?
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
No. I have see the likes of Saud Arabia beaten by Yemenis. Or well Isreal beat the entire Arab world - yet the morons spend most of the Oil money buying weapons from US and Russia.

Equipment is nothing - small motivated force like Taliban has defeated NATO. Previously Taliban beat USSR/Russia.

What is important is DISCIPLINE AND MOTIVATION

Barely 5 Feet vietnamese beat the US - despite US throwing tonnes of bombs.

DISCIPLINE AND MOTIVATION is important.

Look at Ethiopia - 1-2m force - beaten by Tigrays and Eritrea - made landlocked.

Or your boers with Nuclear heads - giving up to ANC mess.

At end of day - nobody will really allow you to Nuke anybody unless you're US in 1945 - so all the powerful weapons is waste of money.

Modern WARFARE - mean CIVILIAN have to be isolated - and that pretty much blunt the weapons. You have to invest in intelligence and kill the enemy - leave the women and kids.

Nobody will allow you to use these powerful weapons countries are buying - it just a DETERRENT MEASURE - you're better of training a professional, disciplined and motivated army - end of the day - you need to separate civilians from military targets - or you will get into LOTS of trouble.

AfriqueDuZuid:
In world of military and defence.

Cutting edge technology and equipment are all you need in 21st century

Even in the times of cold wars, tech was the crusial part.

I believe you know that right? wink
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:48pm On Jul 11, 2021
Nigeria Army need deep reforms. The likes Gen Tonje enforced on KDF. For example Tonje rules require one to acquire a military science degree before being promoted to Major. One must also be promoted to another rank in 4yrs or leave the services. Commander server for 4yrs and leave services.

Nigeria need an army general or president who can face the army (they might do a coup) and enforce REFORMS. it not working. They need to professionalism the force, fix remuneration, housing, and such issues. Being an army should be something to be proud of.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/commentary/article/2001370813/new-kdf-boss-must-not-disappoint-daudi-tonje

Tonje, wrote Daniel Opande, had vision that many officers lacked. In reforming the military, he introduced gender equality, abolished wage payments, started health insurance for the military and struggled to cater for veterans’ interests. In addition, Tonje, the “grand strategist”, dreamt of building critical policy-making masses. He persuaded Moi to establish the National Defence College as a top multi-sector regional military and civilian training organ for safeguarding national interests. He made Opande, with peace-keeping experience in Namibia, Mozambique, and West Africa, the first Commandant.

NDC association

Tonje retired in 2000, after four years as per his rules and Joseph Kibwana took over as CGS. All the subsequent CGSs, and most of the service commanders, have had NDC association and know the “Tonje rules” of military etiquette and governance.

The Tonje rules seem to have three pillars. One, ensure that senior officers have university education and acquire ability to think critically. Two, institutionalisation of age and term limits for commanders. Three, advance the concept of service rotation in the CGS office and promote a sense of equity among the three services. CGSs follow a Tonje rotational pattern: Kibwana (Navy), Jeremiah Kianga (Army), Julius Karangi (Air Force), Samson Mwathethe (Navy), and now Kibochi (Army).

kikuyu1:
The FACTS, just the facts from guys on the ground not elementary school exchanges.
Someone once said within these pages you must constantly EXPLAIN the obvious. Here goes!


[url][http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/13/boko-haram-nigeriamilitary.htmlurl]


[url][https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/the-nigerian-military-is-so-broken-its-soldiers-are-refusing-to-fight/2015/05/06/d56fabac-dcae-11e4-b6d7-b9bc8acf16f7_story.htmlurl]


[url][https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-05-16/why-nigeria-s-large-military-no-match-violent-zealotsurl]


[url][https://reliefweb.int/report/nigeria/disenchanted-soldiersurl]


[url][https://www.cfr.org/blog/military-failures-mount-borno-against-boko-haramurl]


[url][https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30930767url]

2 yrs ago to save lives the NA adopted super camps. Large brigade sized camps to reduce casualties when countless coy bases were overrun. The CONSEQUENCES were ofc to be expected.
Map of super camps.


[url]https://reliefweb.int/report/nigeria/nigeria-s-super-camps-leave-civilians-exposed-terrorists/url]


[url][https://www.africanews.com/2019/09/16/nigeria-s-super-camp-strategy-questioned-as-islamic-state-fills-the-void/url]


[url][https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1W10FUurl]




[url]https://securitypraxis.eu/nigeria-super-camps//url]


[urlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-57117296[/url]

Literate people CAN see and ACCEPT the REALITY! Its terrifying and depressing, truthfully speaking but them's the facts!
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:37pm On Jul 11, 2021
You may have more weapons - but I doubt you'll get to Kenya level of discipline and professionalism. An army that runs on meriotrocacy.

Daudi Tonje: A decorated KDF general who revolutionised Kenya's military Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/373591-daudi-tonje-a-decorated-kdf-general-revolutionised-kenyas-military.html

AfriqueDuZuid:
Hmm so this is a defense force showdown? undecided
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:24pm On Jul 11, 2021
You bet they have Military Intelligence. This brute force - used to simply beating up civilians. This is why they have 360,000 foot soldiers. The Kenya Military Intelligence would have done enough reconnaissance way before - and would simply make the job easy - for the airforce to take them out - with foot soldiers really coming to sweep up. Enough KDF spies would be part of BH - and they would provide precise intelligence - like happened in Somalia.

All this come with world-class training, discipline, professionalism and of course resources - in a lean force.

BH cannot last 3 months if KDF were to be deployed.

NTSA:
The funny thing is that the Boko boys train and operate inside Nigerian territory ....where is your fucking military intelligence? where do Boko boys get the funding from? what are their supply routes? who are their recruiters? who are their sympathizers?.
intelligence precedes any military operation.
PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
You cannot compare Africa's most professional and disciplined army with Nigeria ill-trained army - militia. Nigeria only UN mission appears to be Liberia and Siera leone smiley smiley - which I think they screwed it up so much Gen Opande kenya had to fix it.

Show me another Africa force that UN Sec Council would trust to go to Europe, Asia and Middle East - Nigerians will go steal and rape the victims of war. Ghana has only done Africa UN peace keeping mission.

This is why Kenya is one top 10 contributors to global peace/good

PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:56pm On Jul 11, 2021
KDF is one of Africa most disciplined and professional army.

See - KDF forces arrive in Croatia to provide peackeeping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgLkRswkfNk

obaaderemi:
The only corrupt army here is kdf which pockets soldier's money. Your military is shiity like everything Kenya. Kibera Army. wink

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