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Samrobo, you're an obtuse as always Vlain: |
Of course - for now - South Africa is ahead of kenya - but looking at their future trajectory - mm - not for so long. Vlain: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm6veQKRPdA - Konza is not shopping mall - the Konza Secretariat office - one wing is completed - plus a data center. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Cladding building in glass facade is not investment. This real investment in the future of Kenya. Annually we are putting 2.4B rand in there - about what you have invested in waterfall since 2008!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2blL9-kC78 AfriqueDuZuid: |
No, I lost interest, when I discovered it mere 2.4b rand investment. That may not even excite Somalia. Maybe we go to Durban - and see what they go there. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Again you've detoriated to Just30 madness level 001. That is just the start. If you want post pictures of your glass facade...go ahead. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Picture of what? Konza city is on many levels above your 2B rand little city; You want to see pictures; then do Waterfall and Two Rivers. Two Rivers investment dwarf Waterfall. Just mere 2.5B rand - and it largest private investment in South Africa. What happened to your country? I was thinking we are 15yrs below...seem maybe 10yrs.AfriqueDuZuid: |
Let start from underground. You show me horizontal infrastructure first. AfriqueDuZuid: |
So btw 2020 - underground and with COVID - you've been busy at Waterfall. Mere 2.4B dollars. That is a joke. Two RIver City has INVESTED MORE THAN THAT. I told you - many times - you broke country is BROKE. It;s just Nigeria gov that is unaware and is trying to shake more money from a dying tree. AfriqueDuZuid: |
I have put many links showing you that 5,000 acres initial bought has been extended with 3 counties that lies adjustment each creating 10KM buffer and donating it to Konza to avoid mushrooming of slum like infrastructure. So this going to be a massive city. That a proper city. AfriqueDuZuid: |
LOL - I knew it was just glass facade - Total investment in Waterfall is mere 2.4B rand (0.17B dollar). This the annual budget that is spend on Konza. Comparing two glass facades with shopping center - with KONZA TEHNOPOLIS - that is approaching maybe 1B dollars investment by gov alone.https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/378619/waterfall-city-developments-top-r2-4-billion-including-a-massive-new-warehouse-for-nespresso/ Including pre-development capital expenditure, inventory, assets and the value of the Sanlam joint-venture in Waterfall Junction, the city’s total development value is sitting at R2.4 billion, up slightly from R2.3 billion at June 2019. This year alone - Konza will spend that much 2.4B rand to continue with horizontal infrastructure. Ksh.16B Konza City budget: Konza City allocated Ksh. 16B in 2020/22 financial budget. Konza's allocation is 77% that of the ICT ministry.Jun 11, 2021 AfriqueDuZuid: |
I bet Konza city total investment in horizontal infrastructure dwarf that 300 acre city - that more like Two Rivers. Konza investment so far is more than 0.5B dollars. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Differentiate what - I clearly told you there 1) Vipingo RIdge - and 2) Across it is Vipingo development - which 4,000 acre city by Centum This is Vipingo Development - 4,000 acres upcoming city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbT3gU1UBx0 The entire prime area - has sisal estate - of 22,000 acres - so there is huge scope - to create modern city AfriqueDuZuid: |
At least Kenya is trying to match up with South Africa - all you're doing is trying to kiss their. arse online and shake their companies offline for rand - which they don't have. Vlain: |
You are ranting like a real lunatic - what has 10, 5g got to do with anything. Each of the city have a character. Some are targetting shopping commercial experience like Two Rivers. Some have industrial compoment at it core like Tatu and Northland. Some have vacation and holiday home like Vipingo. Some are tech or smart cities like Konza city. AfriqueDuZuid: |
There are two vipingos. 1) Vipingo Ridge - golf estate city - with airstrip - and Africa only PGA certified golf course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHNnjCxlucU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHN4zVZ64gY 2) There is 10,000 acres Vipingo City by Centum - Vipingo development https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbT3gU1UBx0 AfriqueDuZuid: |
I really doubt that waterfall was started in 2016 ![]() Here are the facts -Attacq acquired Waterfall development rights in June 2008 Konza was mooted in 2008 - and I think land bought in 2010-2012. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Yes I am sure you have 10,000 acres of estate in South Africa. That size of Vipingo by Centum alone. There is the vipingo golf estate with airstrip that is complete...so combined both will be close to 15,000 acres. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Yes, that 5,000 acres city - with industrial base - at it core. AfriqueDuZuid: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP2ozoD_-eY AfriqueDuZuid: |
Kajiado, Makueni and Machakos counties have partnered with the national government through the Konza Technopolis Development Authority to set aside 73,000 acres for new urban development. https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/eastern/article/2001413450/counties-sign-to-donate-73000-acres-for-konza-urban-development AfriqueDuZuid: |
Actually Waterfall is like Tatu city - it nothing compared to Konza city. You do not have anything like that planned - because your country is visionless - and the economy will be stuck in middle class rut forever. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Waterfall is just like Tatu city, Two Rivers, Northland city, Vipingo city - those are private sector. So outside education - your gov has no plan to create a technology focused city - like Silicon valley or Bangalore And you are still excited about shopping malls. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Compare waterfall with Two River city in Nairobi. Both are 300 acres kind of project by private sector - social or shopping cities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ych7v3rkVw Konza city is massive gov funded city - that will be at completion 90,000 acres. That is nearly 500 times more waterfalls. You cannot compare the two - Konza Techno City - is only COMPARABLE maybe to one in Egypt - Smart City of Cario. AfriqueDuZuid: |
What is South Africa gov doing in Tech Sector to prepare your country for 21st Century - NOTHING. Now you're back to Shopping malls. AfriqueDuZuid: |
Is Waterfall being built by South Africa gov? Or what exactly is the issue here? 300 acres is like Two RIvers City - which is well on course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ych7v3rkVw AfriqueDuZuid: |
South African here supporting NIgeria - here comes another tax bill for you. Nigeria asking for 4B dollars from MultiChoice : ) - Desperate poor country - chasing the few multinational in their country - and they will be left with Shell - although even them they are tired - maybe offshore - they will continue.They killed MTN - now they are killing DSTV Only the tough should invest in Nigeriahttps://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-07-08-nigerias-r63bn-tax-claim-against-multichoice-a-bad-signal-for-pay-television-giant/ |
Some Africa countries like Ghana and Nigeria are just hopeless. They shout China (who offer the best development LOAN comparable to imf/wb - almost zero rated) but look at how much they have ramped up Eurobond - and interest there is a killer - nearly 8-10 percent for Ghana.
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KDF - one Africa most disciplined and proffesional army - delivers food to DRC - as they take over from poor hapless congoeles. KDF has probably served in more UN Mission than any other country in Africa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdgyhR0i85o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ipv8bL-XQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmyZyb98tbg |
Surely you're very idle. There a whole 25 pages waiting for you. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/nairobi-africas-new-hq-for-multinational-firms.1559138/page-42 AfriqueDuZuid: |
You're still not happy - - We are talking Tech - but now you're all over the map.AfriqueDuZuid: |
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