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Come on. Somali 3 or 4 terrorist can walk anywhere including Newyork and cause drama.

What is unaccaptable is Boko Haram controlling nearly the whole of north east nigeria - sending 8Million Nigerians to refuge camps - and controlling TERRITORY. THAT IS CONVENTIONAL WAR.

And they have even appointed a GOVERNOR in Nigeria.

How do you even get the courage to compare the two. Boko Haram are fighting and control grounds - have governors and collect taxes - and really run Nigeria east.

KDF are in Kismayu deep in Somalia helping restore peace in huge age.

Alshabaab cannot survive even 1hour in Kenya.

obaaderemi:
It's so easy for those malnourished dusty Somalis to just march into Kenya and kill you people. BH on the other hand has been confined to remote villages.
You need to learn from Nigeria.

That just the stupid Trump - who was interested in small termism - who overrode Obama decision to ban any arm sale to Boko Haram (aka Nigeria Army).

I expect Biden to enforce the ban on any arm sale to Boko Haram military wing (Nigeria army) otherwise you're making international terror more powerful.

Your cowardly corrupt army - will either abandon the weapons for BH or they will sell it to them.

obaaderemi:
This boy is fantastically stvpid.
If Americans are not selling us weapons, so who sold us the super tucanos we took delivery of 2 days ago? Kenya I guess.

Of course. Kenya impressed the world by how quickly it resolved that terror. Nairobi is glad to work with Mossad, British and American special forces in combating global terror. Kenya police has Chinese made phone tracking gadget that make kidnapping almost impossible in Kenya. Kenya police runs cyber-security with best of Isreali tech that make Yahoo kind of cybercrime easy to nab.

You got to learn and work with the BEST.

obaaderemi:
A picture is worth a thousand words.

There is no excuse why you cannot beat homegrown terror - except your army is simply incapable - and has been found to be wanting - they run from Boko Haram. American soldiers who came to see - who so shocked - US has refused to sell any serious arms to Nigeria - coz cowardly militia will abandon it for Boko Haram. US congress on other hand quickly approves any Kenya arm sales.

Nigeria army needs REFORMS.

You need to inject PROFESSIONALISM into your army.

Kenya Defence force had in 80s went down in Africa kind of way - there was an attempted coup in 1982 - and army was dominated by illeterate officers.

In 1990s - KDF undertook what is called TONJE Reforms.

That reform fixing many things that was wrong with our military and ushered in a modern force.

obaaderemi:
Terrorism is different from conventional warfare, bro.
There's always a lot of politics involved in terrorism.

We have never really cared about such nonsense. Anglo this or China this...or anti-Boer or anti-communism or pro- this.

Kenya has always been neutral and we always look for what is mutual interest and benefit. Either bilateral or multilateral - if AU sign - we abide - if UN Sec council say this - we abide by international law. But we are free to make out own bilateral agreements.

British and Kenya signed a deal to allow British soldiers to be trained in Kenya - that partnership helps the local economy and most importantly kenya troops get to train with one of the best armies of the world.

Down in Lamu - US army - have small air base in an island - and that airbase helps in fighting Alshabaab and Islamic terror - which Kenya is also fighting in Somalia.

Israeli trains our paramilitary and anti-terror police- GSU and police on anti-terror - and Mossad/CIA/British intelligence - work with Kenya intelligence - to defeat international terror and criminals - like Nigeria KANU guy who thought Kenya is a zoo to hide in - or the Turkish kurdish who think Nairobi is hiding ground.

We work with Jordan airforce - and many others. Our military buys hardware now from Chinese. We refuse to be boxed into pro or anti this. We are an independent sovereign nation capable of making our own decision to work with Chinese in the morning, Americans in the afternoon, Arabs in the evening, Israelis tomorrow and British next week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k8aO7jkC2E

ArabicBerber:
You forgot to mention the multiple foriegn bases as well. The only thing your proving to us here is that the Kenyan Armed Forces can't operate independently while Kenya remains extremely neo colonized existing firmly under an Anglo umbrella yet drowning in Chinese debt.

You're now just heckling like Just30 mad cow. Use that aggression to defeat Boko Haram and save at least 8million (size of Rwanda) people of North East from that war.

Vlain:
To summarize this your army is joke compared to ours.we have the 4th strongest army force on our dear continent.
I heard with all ur discipline and training 200 soldiers died by alshaab hands in 2016. And ur military budget keeps getting pocketed by a select few. Lol discipline much

Precisely. It's a militia. They beat up people but run away like puss.ies when facing Boko haram or even cattle rustlers.

kikuyu1:
Seen this?

https://youtu.be/jRlpGlVntB8

A lone NA cadet blocks a Lagos bridge to demo his marching skills! This display says more than enough about the true state of the Naij armed fo
rces;contempt for civvies and overweening arrogance. You can hear one of his mates yelling,"they can't do anything," obviously referring to the inconvenienced road users. This is why they'll never beat BH;this is how they can shoot their countrymen in Lekki last October,deny and give zero effs anyway.


[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lekki_massacre
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This again is the problem when army is not proffesional. They just throw money - without even thinking of how to maintain and operate the same equipment. It is like Uganda buying Sukhoi - that cost a fortune to just fly it.

Your army effectiveness is in dealing with enemies like Boko Haram.

END OF STORY. It's not the equipment or the millions of troops.

obaaderemi:
Dead equipment indeed. When it comes to military in Africa, just drop it. Kenya is nowhere.

Just 2 days ago, Nigeria took delivery of 6 Super Tucanos. Does Kenya have such? Even with alshabaab kicking your azzez in Somalia. Not to talk of navy and land forces. You don't come close. Drop it, Son.

This is now breaking news - Nigeria army are not fighting in the contintent - they are fighting Boko haram. The academic ranking of who is strong - is useless - you're not going to fight Kenya.

Vlain:
Nigeria army are the 4th strongest in the continent- I wonder how u are taking that new-but i advice u deal with it.

This week Boko Haram - appointed a governor in Nigeria - that is serious mess - check this week alone - Boko Haram are running your country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgxHMOUg4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7zVjj9D-ts

Vlain:
They are still the 4th strongest in the continent-deal with that.

You're a wannabe with low self-esteem.

Vlain:
I am an objective man-deal with that.

We have south africans to speak for their country. Tell us about your zoo. It like a south africa posting something - and I bring pictures of say Switzerland - and say South Africa is crap . South Africa is of course crap compared to any random place in Europe or South Asia or North Europe.

Vlain:
And that’s shouldn’t stop me from speaking my truth.

Nigeria army has been unable to deal with Fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram - deal with that.

Vlain:
Nigeria has the fourth strongest army in Africa.it’s a fact-now deal with that.

No one is disputing that - but you're a Nigerian.

Vlain:
In the context of Africa in relation to the developed world Then yes SA is the best I have seen.Their neighborhoods are in par with theirs not even aiming but in par aesthetically.

You may need to overtake Boko Haram and become Africa strongest Army, otherwise Nigeria is a mess. Thank god we captured your KANU and delivered him to Nigeria - like we did Kurdish rebel - Ocalan and send him to turkey- because clearly a new war front in the east - would crush Nigeria.

Vlain:
That’s ur personal problem.Facts not emotions have it that we are have the 4th strongest army in Africa.that’s all that matters.I could care less about the verbal rankings of a nobody online.

Boko Haram would like to disagree. Or let us say Boko Haram is now the 3rd Strongest Army in Africa.

Vlain:
Noise.in the end have it at the back of ur mind Nigeria has the 4th strongest army in Africa and one of the strongest globally.This verbal back and forth doesn’t change anything.I hope oba k owe this and let u be-it’s just ur usual syndrome of refusing to accept the truth and question the truth to find solace in ur demise.I understand u psychologically and that why I am able to see all ur bull shiit.-we are the 4th strongest in Africa-deal with that.

What truth - I guess for you South Africa is the best you've seen

Vlain:
U hate the truth.that’s just ur problem and reality-deal with ur shiit nigga.

Actually even Kenya NYS - youth service - can beat the Nigeria - there is nothing as bad like indisciplined and ill motivated army

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMcwH6zqWjk

Just30 madness level 001.

Vlain:
Call it my honest observation.This this are naked eye test. Ur supposedly new two river city still goes in the line of upper hill ,Delhi nonsense.why can you up ur game when u have the chance to start all over.Atleast we are doing that with a few of our like EAC,illubirn and the likes.surely u can see how the new places breath first world like those SA neighborhoods-talk of waterfall,sandton and the likes-not Delhi,Dhaka and all that nonsense.

Fvck off nigga ur zoo inspires no one.

As for Nigeria Militia - Kenya police will beat them. This level of training is not possible in Nigeria.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uLPO14sNgs

But you're a nobody - and nobody really cares about your opinion.

Nigeria cities look like? When will any of your city get here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_-IuyK9SE

Vlain:
India looks crappy when compared to the rest of her Asian peers.India is the likes of Pakistan,Bangladeshi and that’s where Nairobi comes in. I don’t see the difference between Nairobi and crappy Chennai or Delhi. Same striking resemblance.

They are militia that Kenya APS and GSU deal with - not worth KDF attention.

The kenya paramilitary units can handle most of these regional militias.

GSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-hXqJe_bY
or Kenya APs can beat the milita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9P4y-XcAps

kikuyu1:
The funny thing is these guys think their collective militias are unbeatable German panzers invading France! I had an uncle who was deputy OCPD Turkana early 90s. It was a busy time dealing with cross border cattle raiders who'd kill tens of people every month or so.
Once during a discussion with his Ethio counterpart the ENDF invaded the meeting. Ragged MOFOS who looked more like sobels, soldiers/rebels in their mismatched kit and deportment. I SPECIFICALLY rmbr him say they had nits in their hair!?
In 07 they triumphantly rolled into Mog and like the UPDF had a torrid time, withdrawing a few months later. In 99 they lost the first round with much smaller Eritrea.
This mouthy little Naijjan has no idea what he's on about- as usual.

Samrobo - this India - HYDERABAD - India is escaping poverty - as Nigeria regress into deep povery
HYDERABAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOYZ_zitWGs

Bangalore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhZfzxCMYA

Hon Min City

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P1bgsuVS8U

Then of course NAIROBAE

Nairobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuoAznN-Alc

Ranking looking at number of soldiers - or dead equipment - not the quality - will always rank Ethiopia or Nigeria army highly - but both armies cannot even handle internal enemies - leave alone external.

Nigeria militia cannot fight Boko Haram. That should rank them at the usual place with Somalia..bottom.

Obviously kenya has one Africa leanest force - at 30K now (used to be 25K)...while poor countries like Uganda or Rwanda...you find them with 100K poorly paid and trained soldiers.

obaaderemi:
You're desperate, Son.
That same Nigerian army as bad as it is, far outranks your Kenyan military. Nigerian army is ranked 4th in Africa behind Egypt, South Africa and Algeria. KDF is ranked maybe 10th or so.
There is no room for comparison here. We've got something to show for the $2.4bn military budget, you've got nothing to show for your $1bn military budget.
We've got more personnel and still more military equipment. Not just more but better. So, where is your military budget going to? Private pockets.
Too bad. And worse:

Seriously, this is bad.

You cant compare those militia with Kenya Defence Force - one Africa most disciplined and proffesional army - that have participated in UN missions in Europe and all.

KDF conduct joint training with British Army regularly. The British just finished 70M pound barracks in Kenya - and as part of the deal - British Army train 1,000 kenyan soldiers annually


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKJNwUVM3HE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7mBsPGCNoI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kHonO8zZMo

Exactly. A militia. They are taken through some training, given uniforms and gun. And that pretty much it.

kikuyu1:
Really, NIGGA! Tbh, I think we Kenyans are more familiar with the true state of the NA than you!
The rest of the world also knows and as with all things Naij its a comical and hideous sight.

..

Thats a decade ago. Look:


[url]https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed/url]
GOODNESS! I know you're searching high and low for smth, ANYTHING that can positively outdo us-this AIN'T IT, SON!

These are cities seeing the biggest expansion now
Top 20 Most Dynamic Cities In The World For 2020.
Rank City Country
1 Hyderabad India
2 Bengaluru India
3 Ho Chi Minh City Vietnam
4 Nairobi Kenya

Nairobi just about got started because there is a huge housing deficit that gov is working on fixing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DweG1wyfgrk

Nairobi has cheapest rent - and of course the house for leasing - are all over - rental contracts so easy. Meanwhile Lagos is now more expensive than Luanda...5 times more expensive than Nairobi.

Nairobi let me remind you again is Now 4th Most Dynamic City in the world - so while you're desperately looking for building under construction - the entire Nairobi is a construction site.

Watch this video and shut up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dedrJqnXIOw&t=5s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DweG1wyfgrk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSKfUNNO69c&t=718s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv-M3GtBbT0&t=765s

Vlain:
Kenya is just one heck of a massive failure.there is nothing you can tell me to believe otherwise.I mean just look at- u failed badly at developing a world class Nairobi (what u’ve gat is so third world). Now this tiny dot of a community u call two river still looks underwhelming third world.Gawd what’s going on.Are u guys cursed or what. Like u fvcking have the opportunity to change things but u threw all that a away and here you are with another upper hill kinda neighborhood in ruaka town .

Ur two river nonsense is obviously a child play to similar project in Lagos.illubirin(mind u this is bigger than ur tiny community dusty joke).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJA7O8vhG7k

They’ve started furnishings some apartments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeaNYfNN3y4
Check progress below

Two RIvers - is better than Waterfall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFt7VxoQIGU

AfriqueDuZuid:
Please post the billion dollar you wanted to show me

Keep chasing away investors with crazy tax demands - after they have done everything to avoid kidnapping and all the bad infrastructure. Kenya meanwhile I think we will overtake Morocco this year to become Africa 3rd BEST PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.
It will be Mauritus. Rwanda. Kenya.
Economy wise - soon it will Egypt, South Africa, Kenya. - I see Algeria dropped to 150B - and Nigeria is a train wreck waiting to happen.

68816419:
Keep dreaming

Actually we will build more such cities. As you well know kenya is already a magnet for white silicon valley startups.Nairobi is already the social enterprises capital of the world. So Konza city will fill up very soon. There is a lot that makes them want to come to Kenya - security, beautiful country, freedom, infrastructure - and of course kenya africa best quality of education - means they will not lack qualified staff.

68816419:
Been part of your vision does not equate reality on ground, deep down u know this ain't gonna get completed not even in the next 50years to come