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Tanzania Failed Language policy

English as a Barrier to Education
Practice in Tanzanian secondary schools has been inconsistent with the proclaimed language policy, since English has ceased to be an effective medium of education and has been replaced by Kiswahili as the de facto medium.
The majority of secondary teachers teach all subjects in Kiswahili. As I observed during my years in Tanzanian classrooms, for instance, the chemistry teacher will use English terminology but explain things in Kiswahili since most students cannot follow instructions in English. Teachers provide written notes in English for students to memorize, and they give exams in English as the language in which national examinations are conducted . As a result, teachers and students operate on a contrived dual language system. Roy-Campbell reports that students who answered exams in Kiswahili, contrary to the official policy of English only, were penalized because it would be unfair to other candidates who could also have answered in Kiswahili.15

Nope, it was to curb kenyan professionals from taking your jobs. Your kids after 12yrs of education cannot construct an English sentence. Stick with one track.

To quote this

Some analysts attributed this high failure rate to the sudden switch to English as the medium of instruction in secondary school. The expectation that children leaving public primary schools should enter secondary school and take lessons for all subjects in English language is both callous and ludicrous. English fluency is equally poor among secondary school teachers and officials of the National Examinations Council of Tanzania (Necta).

Mzal3ndo:
Dude there are a lot of Kenyans and Ugandans living and working in Tanzania, plus, the law was made so as to curb the over influx of foreign workers coming to Tanzania to work, a lot of foreigners were coming to Tanzania with a tourist visa and overstaying, to end that the law was in acted as a way to control illegal immigration.

Open the borders and lift labour sanctions if you're rich and ready to compete in international labour market. Your education is an epic failure. You either stick to Kiswahili all the way or English all the way.

Mzal3ndo:
Well, we are and the kids do understand. Just because it could be hard for Kenyans that doesn't mean it will be hard for Tanzanian and its not a sudden change, again,they learn English as an independent subject when in high school it becomes the language of instruction. They get a foundation of the language before they start using it as a means of instruction. Plus, there are a lot of countries that depend on the international market and still use their own language, your statement is invalid.
And for a Kenyan to call Tanzania poor, the irony.

Precisely. Kibera like all kenya slums enjoy 24-7 electricity and water. That is better than Banana Island of Lagos.

Dlonra:
Kibra might be an exegerated NGO slum but Makoko is ten times worse than any slum on earth. Floating slum with no electricity, medical care or government services. A permanent slum totally cut off the grid�. Kibra is a Middle class estate in Nigeria. Living in Kibra is easier for a human being than in makoko.

Very bad. The black South African need all the help it can get to level things with Boer.

Saddamochieng00:
What are you saying you house negro. You have the best universities yet you can't produce black men and women who can contend for the top jobs.

I spit on your weak azz face

You cannot suddenly switch the language instruction in upper schools and expect kids to get anything. They will be disoriented like most of Tanzanians.

If you can make your own stuff like Chinese or Germans - go ahead and speak anything you want. But if you're a poor country like Tanzania depending on the international market you better be good in English.

Mzal3ndo:
Its class 1 to 7 and in primary school we teach them English as an independent subject while in secondary school it is taught as an independent subject and as a language of instruction and over 40% of high school students go to private school in Tanzania thus your estimation is just idiotic and no, Kenyans can not speak good Swahili, good maybe when talking to other Kenyan but not when talking to people who really know the language.
You can't use language to fuel your ideas of being ahead of some people most Germans can't speak English are you ahead of them

But Kenya never had so much minerals like the former Saudi Arabia of Minerals. But now like Nigeria - you're breeding poverty.

Austine1212:
Even more

You can imagine. 5% of the population who are not indigenous to south africa owning 85% of land while 90% black indigenous population own 15%. Those Khoisans need help

Saddamochieng00:
If I was left with less than 4% of my own native land I won't be requesting.

Konza city get more allocation of funds

Mr Yatani also made sizable allocation to the Konza Technopolis city which seeks to position Kenya as a world class ICT hub. The allocations to the project include Sh6.3 billion for infrastructure phase 1, Sh400 million for ongoing construction of the Konza Technopolis Complex phase 1B, while Konza Data Centre and Smart City Facilities Project were allocatedSh5.1 billion.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/tech/Yatani-budget-shows-rising-stature-of-tech-in-economy/4258474-5578292-n2h2n7z/index.html

We long did that. Wagalla massacres. We copied the South Africa Truth and Justice reconciliation. The president apologized. You must realize Somalize have totalled screwed themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4-xqnsQqls

jln115:
Cool story bro

NOW

When are you going to take accountability for the over 10000 unarmed Somali civilians that you raped and Murdered?

Michael Joseph is a Kenyan hero. He did say Bob Collymore was not typical African - kept time and all that. We don't have a problem with that. We like Boers nonsense Ameican like honest brutality. But no racism.

There has got to be some honesty. Even at Safaricom Michael Joseph was hard-headed and got stuff done.

The new arrival from South African are unrepentant racist who needs a lot of dehorning.

obaaderemi:
Michael Joseph probably didn't learn anything from Kenyans impotent rage after he said you little Indians had peculiar calling habits.
Because I remember the man insulting Kenyans again last year at Bobby collymore's funeral.

I remember Michael Joseph - South African Boer - when he first landed in Kenya - and then said Kenyans had peculiar calling habbits. He was nearly run out of town. He quickly learned. He learnt that as much as kenya respect merit; they don't appreciate any hint of racism.

Now he is like true Kenyan; a full citizen; and patriot of kenya.

If kenyans were racist - Michael Joseph - won't be so respected. He came with usual Boer nonsense attitude and a little of racism - and remain with nonsense hard work - and is loved by many kenyans. A national hero.
https://3dwnh01icn0h133s00sokwo1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Michael-Joseph.jpg

He should go to Ethiopia or Somalia. Somalis will probably knife him. Ethiopia will stone him unless he has money for all the beggars in that country.

Kenyans believe in meritocracy. We believe in hard work.

Baliv254:
we can say whatever we want against white people, we earned the right to do it
but that doesn't mean we treat you badly on the streets or on real life interactions

a white person doesn't get jeered or harassed or get strange looks in Kenya
but in low tones we know your agenda and how your race has treated black people

Being called to account - for your current and historical injustices against black south Africans,..is NOT racism. It's ACCOUNTABILITY. You should be more remorseful and should bend backward. Your current status has everything perhaps with historical privilege as white South African.

We have no problem with white people. Ask those who have visited Kenya. But if you think you'll come and enact apartheid in Kenya - think again.

Let tell you for free - South Africa companies (just call them Boers) have failed in kenya - for exactly that reason. They come with their gungho attitude thinking Kenyans are the usual Africans you can abuse and denigrate - as the boss - only to be taught a lesson - they will only understand on their flight back home forever.

If you want to see racist - go to Somalia or Ethiopia. Ethiopia will throw stones at white person like that Nigeria is describing - they will beg for money - and if you don't give them - they will stone you.

jln115:
The most racist people I've met on this thread have been Kenyan..............Just saying

In Vipingo - Mombasa cement building 40mw.

This is how to do it. Tanzania are spending 2.5B dollars to build hydro-power

When they can spend zero by allow private sector to do it.

Baliv254:
in the name Kipeto bro google it

Primitives will be shouting Onyibo Onyibo; Why would you harass a white man walking the streets.

samorobo:
A white man would be lucky to walk the streets of Nigeria without getting harrassed....

You go make your findings..A white man has no say whatsoever in Nigeria...This is not Kenya..let that sink in..

None of Nigeria companies(banks) dominate anything in Kenya. You banks came and bought struggling SMALL TINY banks. Let say they got conned. If South Africa cannot hack - you think Nigerians can

Roan7:
Did we gave you the firms of brown, white, Yellow, Nigeria dominating in Kenya?

Find out how much they spend to buy the subsidiary and how much they have invested. Those Nigeria banks are probably ranked number 30 out 40 kenya banks. They made 5M dollars profit. Big deal. When they spend 100M dollars to buy 80% of FINA in 2014. Now imagine making 5m (nigeria get divided of 3m) after 6yrs!!!!!!!!!!!! And after they had to close branches and fire employee - probably profit is all from cost restructuring.

All Nigerian banks in Kenya were taken to cleaners - South African firm style . Small little banks sold their dying banks to Nigerian banks.

Kenya bank like Equity profit from Congo alone....1.4B kshs 14M dollars...in 2 yrs of expansion.

68816419:
At least the New Bank "GTbank "is making reasonable profits

Yes such cities like Alaro is only way to go to Nigeria. Tough place to survive. But if you build your factory in Alaro and live there...you can survive.

leo552:
Kenyan investors make beeline for new Nigerian city
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2020 0:01
1) Developer Rendeavour’s ambitious seven-city development scheme last week received fresh impetus with opening of the first manufacturing unit at Alaro City, Lagos, as two major Kenyan manufacturers affirmed they will be investing at the site.
2)Kenyan Ariel Foods commissioned the first-ever investment—billed to be Africa’s largest of its kind—at the Lekki free zone east of Lagos while Unity and Universal homes announced their debut.
Ariel, which owns a similar nutritional plant in Kenya supplying UN agencies while sourcing peanuts from Kakuma refugees, announced Ishtar Chandaria as the CEO of the facility. He is the son of chairman Dhiren.
Rendeavour is locally the developer of the Tatu City on the Northern Bypass, Nairobi and has lined up such developments in five sub-Saharan countries including DR Congo (Kiswishi), Ghana (Appolonia) and Zambia (Roma Park) on 12,000 hectares. Apart from homes and industrial parks, the developments include educational and health facilities.
The Alaro, a joint undertaking with Lagos State, unlike the Nairobi one located in a relatively developed suburb will involve extensive infrastructure building including a 54-kilometre expressway to a new Freeport on the Atlantic Ocean. The road from Lagos itself is currently due for repair after Dangote Group trucks caused massive damage during building of a plant.
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Lagos plans to use Alaro as gateway to West Africa. Apart from the free economic benefits that are like Kenyan ones, the state government has been keen to sell Nigerian World Bank ranking at 131 for ease of doing business. Kenya is ranked 56.
But Dhiren told the opening ceremony that Nigeria, Africa’s largest economy, practically is far much better than ranked and appreciated the cooperation from various levels of government.
“I received several warnings not to go to Nigeria…I was afraid at first when I saw them arguing,” said the entrepreneur whose firm is just one of the locals that have expressed interest in the city.

I gave the list of Kenyan (black, white, yellow, brown) owned business in Nigeria. For games you can look for your agemates and some mud.

Roan7:
Let play the game you were playing since, give us the list of the real Kenyan firms dominating in Nigeria.
We didn't give you the list of Lebanase/Nigerian, firm dominating in Kenya, did we?

Let us never hear about Eko Altantic city then and any Lebanase owned business in Nigeria.

Roan7:
He said real Kenyans.
The Nigerian firms dominating in Kenya, are not half Nigerians, or Nigerians of other race, they are real Nigerians.
Stop mentioning some bunch of Indians here.

Start teaching English and if possible French and even Madrain(Chinese) from Class 0. This is what I personally do for my kids.

Your education system has totally failed. Kiswahili is the language of instruction from class 1 to class 8 then suddenly they switch to English in high school. The results - 90% of Tanzanian high school graduates cannot construct a sentence in English. It;'s that bad.

Kenya I keep telling you are ahead of you for such simple reasons. We speak very good Kiswahili. It a compulsory subject from class o to end of high school. We teach vernacular from class o to grade 3/clss 3. For the rest the language

Mzal3ndo:
Have you been living under a rock? We teach our kids English from secondary school level and secondary school enrollment in the country has risen that more Tanzanians are learning the language and others go to private schools where they get exposure to more languages other than English. I just don't see the point of the statement that you just made, it would have made sense in 1990s but not in these times and days. Tanzanians can speak English but prefer Swahili and we are pushing that countries in the SADC region also adopt the language and Swahili be a language used in East, Central and Southern Africa. Acheni fikra za kikoloni kwamba watu wa tabaka la chini ndo wanatumia lugha za kiafrika, mnazingua jirani.....

Comcraft is owned by Kenyan and started in Kenya. You want to go by races? or by Citizenry.

Danielnino00:
The last time we did it, you were mentioning a bunch of Indian firms like camcraft...


Kenyan airway is one..

Name the rest ..
Let's see how strong your firms are...

We have done this before. Start with Kenya Airways. Go to Comcraft - Tower, TowerEnergy - etc etc

http://www.towerenergy.org/index.php

Danielnino00:
Don't ignore the other ones..

GTBank, UBA, interswitch, Jumia, Andela, Telkom, CCHub...

Name the Kenyan firms doing similar thing in Nigeria since you so much like to brag about how dominant Kenyan firms are...

Sorry English and French - are two languages - that you need to teach your kids. Average educated Tanzania cannot speak English. That is the problem. The average Kenya can speak Kiswahili enough to conduct any business

Mzal3ndo:
This is without a doubt the most ignorant thing i have ever seen in Nairaland. You saying a certain language is for certain people just cements how dumb and ideologically suppressed Kenyans are. People use French, Mandarin, Spanish, Arabic even Russian for business not only English. Nations push their languages as a way of spreading their pride and heritage, Kenyas lack that sense of pride and full of insecurities that you start of saying Kenyan Swahili is better when shown it not you pull back and say "Its a common mans language" Pfff..... Wajinga nyinyi......

You don't get tired peddling nonsense. Does Westland look as small as victoria island including - the empty Eko Altantic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdSFW5eBtxQ&t=70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3NIgWNh1Vs&t=286s

68816419:
Every tiny nice areas in Kenya is regarded "full blown business district"
Pic1- full blown cbd upper hill
Pic2- full blown cbd West-land and Parkland

Helios partners-Private/Equity Fund. They don't own anything. They collect money on behalf of investors and invest - on their behalf. Kenya has huge PE market.

Danielnino00:
No matter how much negativity they focus on Nigeria,there's always a lot of positivity we will counter them with..

Can the Kenyans give us a list like this one ? A list of Kenyan businessmen who are breaking grounds in certain sectors in Nigeria?

Real Kenyans...

Why do you like lying in the internet era?

https://www.stearsng.com/article/nigerias-skin-bleaching-epidemic

Danielnino00:
He is spewing rubbish... It's mostly women that bleach..and it's nowhere near 77% ..


Even with the bleaching,there are a lot of naturally light skinned people in Nigeria... Especially among the Igbos . .. and The Fulanis have light skinned people too...

Check out the Shuwa Arab women of northern Nigeria...

Yes, both men and women bleach in Nigeria and DRC Congo. The two messed up African countries. Self-hating low-esteem bonobos.

Austine1212:
Bleaching men?

Good for Helios.The British company. I see their websites is full of Kenyan pictures. Helios is only as Nigerian as the British boxer Anthony Joshua.

68816419:
Helios Towers to Invest $450 Million Of $1 Billion Raised for Expansion Into Sub-Saharan Africa

Telecom tower infrastructure company, Helios Towers, has announced its plan to invest $450 million from funds it just raised for expansion into more parts of Africa.

The funds will be pulled from $1 billion that the company just raised from the debt markets this week. With the funds, Helios Towers will be putting back to work the expansion plan it had before the Covid-19 pandemic.

In the expansion plan, Egypt, Madagascar, Ethiopia, and Morocco are target countries for the telecom infrastructures company. Morocco, Egypt, and Madagascar have some of Africa’s fastest internet speeds. Recent plans by the Ethiopian government to open its telecom industry to private investors have moved Ethiopia to the top of the priority list for Helios Towers.

Two new mobile licenses are up for auction and they come with a minority stake in the state monopoly. Ethiopia’s telecom sector is monopolized largely by Ethio Telecom, a state-owned telco. Ethio telecom controls to a large extent, fixed lines, broadband, and mobile telephones.

Privatisation of this sector will open up a need for infrastructure companies like Helios Tower and IHS Holdings Ltd. Bloomberg reports that this wave of expansion will create a need for about 10,000 new towers over the next 5 years.
“Ethiopia is a very big opportunity, and after a few months of being quiet, its government has requested new indications of interest from telecom operators. With that now back on the table, we are seeking a financing partner and working with mobile operators to be in a strong position to enter the market,” says Tom Greenwood, Helios Towers Chief Financial Officer
Helios Towers Market Expansion Plan

In October 2019, the company listed on the London Stock Exchange. It raised $364 million in the initial public offering a tad short of the $500 million target set for the company. With the fund, Helios’ plan was to expand into more of sub-Saharan Africa, build and buy new sites, as well as roll out 4th-generation mobile services.

The expansion plan is what is being revisited with the $1 billion funding that was just raised. Besides the $450 million for continent-wide expansion, most of the remnant of the fund will be used to refinance existing borrowings and the balance set aside for growth and expansion.

Meanwhile, Helios shares slumped 10% to 184 pence in London on Thursday, paring gains since the IPO to about 60%. The firm currently has 7,000 towers located in South Africa, Congo, Ghana, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Tanzania. Its plan is to increase the number by building more towers and buying from other towercos who want to sell to raise cash.

Besides Helios, American Tower Corp and IHS Holdings Ltd are two other firms leveraging the cheaper and faster internet speeds to make more inroads into Africa.
Besides Helios, American Tower Corp and IHS Holdings Ltd are two other firms leveraging the cheaper and faster internet speeds to make more inroads into Africa.

As Ethiopia presents a business opportunity for telcos and towercos, Helios Towers is not the only firm interested in the country. Kenya’s Safaricom is in talks to form a consortium to enable it to bid for one of the country’s telecoms licenses. Vodacom, and France’s Orange are two telcos who may join the bidding game for the licenses.

They are only African people I know (from this thread) who think black skin is ugly and bad. When this thread just started - their biggest comeback was to claim a Kenya had black skin. That was supposed to their biggest insult . I learnt this what they do to Ghana. Nigeria is one sick country.

Justnotyou:
funny enough they'll be so proud of their undoubtedly acquired light features even when it's known they lack the allele for being lightskin. Ironically they'll be the first people to accuse others of white worshiping while at the same time insult others cause of their darkskin.

I won't blame him for the 80s - but definitely the 90s. The 80s was global crisis and our population growth eventually ate all that growth. The 90s was basically a lost decade..best forgotten.

kikuyu1:
I actually feel pain seeing the flat growth of the Moi era. Yes, I said he was an innovative moderniser in his iwn way but still....