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Smart City like Nairobi have higher internet speed than US or Australia, are pionering next payment systems like m-pesa, are well known to host international research institutions like Ibm and others, have some of most well-trained human capital, are attracting top talents around the world, is multi-cultural city hosting regional & global HQs of multilateral institutions and are well known innovation centers. Nairobi is without doubt the world innovation capital for social enterprises. It is without doubt the world innovation capital of mobile commerce & payments. It's without doubt has one best ICT infrastructures in Africa.

stanliwise:
stop calling Singapore. tell me what is smart in Cape town and Nairobi.

It not even 20Kms - that mountain is literally in KenyaTZ border - British Queen donated it to a German Prince(TZ short-lived colonizer) because Kenya already had Mt Kenya- the boundary literally make a curve in Mt Kilimanjaro.
https://www.kilimanjaro-uncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Kilimanjaro_map_Kenya-Tanzania_border.png

Jonraid:
The mountain lies 20km off the Kenyan boarder in Tanzania!

Just 30 is right.

Nairobi and Cape Town rank among the most advanced cities on the African continent on the smart city front. Nairobi, capital of Kenya and home to over three million people, won the title of Most Intelligent City in Africa for two years in a row.

stanliwise:
you don't know what a smart city is. Even Dubai is not yet considered a smart city and you are here mentioning south-Africa. please define a smart city let us start from there.

Its really hard to be nice in the real Africa. You know this our fourth day of dry taps here in Uganda .Now I am told I have to go to Police Station to get fire-engine to refill my tank. In kenya there are water bowser everywhere . Sometimes I think I am being hard on Nigerians - who probably endure worse - you can imagine electricity off, dry taps, overflowing sewage, generator din and the heat.What excuse do you have for being this nasty this early morning - esp against the sweat Ethiopian university kid.

Lionessza6:
LMFAO , actually that is my opinion of you as well.

You really have a chip on your shoulder.

Lionessza6:
So now this is a fight because I corrected your nonsense ?. You can lash out all you want but I will not have you twisting my words to suit your own narrative. The rest is your opinion.

Still early for a fight. I am really proud of people who have really changed their story. I'd pick Ethiopeans and Rwandese tops - and possibly South African near bottom. I am of course proud of what Kenya has achieved as compared to say Nigeria and I am really optimistic about the future of my country. Yes in 90s and 80s - South Africans changed their story - kicked out the white minority and started to take their country back - but I feel they are now possibly off-track. You're probably riding on the glory of Mandelas and other dead or dying heros. If you're not careful - you may end up becoming another Zimbwabwe. Once a great country - now in ruins.

I am completely and totally embarrassed by Nigerians and DRC. And Tanzania (pun fully intended). They are mostly responsible why everybody is running away from Africa.

Lionessza6:
LOL ,now you are putting words in my mouth. If you are a a black Kenyan then don't project yourself hate on us , we are proud of being who we ; race and culture but we are indifferent about the rest of Africa. Yes , we have failed ourselves in a lot of ways , but everyone from what I see is trying to rectify this . Africa has a long way to go though as a whole , hence we must all focus on providing ourselves with quality education, quality healthcare and ofcourse end poverty , then we will start seeing the results .

And that is exactly what I said. I really can't berate the South Africans or Ethiopeans or Northern Africans. Nobody is really proud to be African or Black. We have failed ourselves.We need to become better human-beings and I believe Africa is now rising - and soon everyone African will be proud to stand and say I am African. Nigeria,DRC and Tanzania ( are letting us down though.

And in Kigali - soon those Rwandese won't want to be called African - their town is un-african already - spotlessly clean, organized and as good as any in developed world.

And negative connotation of being African & black will change - the way the notion of Chinese changed. People for a long time knew Chinese as primitive bicycle riding farmers with huge caps. The arabs were camel-riding primitives until recently. West Europe were dirty savages some few centuries ago. Stories change. African narrative will change.

And it won't change with long lecturer - about Africa pride - it will change when we start behaving and acting like thinking human beings. We need to kick poverty out - and slowly live a dignified life.

Lionessza6:
If you put it like this then there is a lot of truth to it , I thought you were talking about about racial or cultural identity. Yes, South Africans mainly want to be called South Africans .

I think the East Africa story is changing. The last generation East African have turned their fortunes from famine-infested wasteland to one of world fastest growing sub-region that is now a magnet of FDI.

West African had it great thanks to discovery of hyrdocarbons in the region. They really should have been as developed as Southern African region - which also hit a mineral/metal jackpot - and of course the messed up Central Africa (DRC & Angola) also have so much minerals.The northern Africa is also literally swimming in oil, natural gas and phosphorous.

The sick man has always been the East & Horn Africa - bereft of any minerals - with harsh climate and people - but the story has changed the last 20yrs. Ethiopia, Rwanda, Kenya,Djibouti even lazy Tanzania and Uganda have been amongst the fastest growing countries in the world.

What is great about FDI and growth from East Africa - is that non commodity (oil,gas,metals,coal) driven - but by sectors like manufacturing, agriculture, real estate & finance - and famines are becoming history except in the sick man - Somalia.

East Africa will definitely catch up with rest of Africa - if they haven't already - and zoom past it.

I cannot say the same about West Africa - Nigeria remain as oil dependant as ever.

obaaderemi:
You are going to be soundly and resoundingly disgraced today. But you will learn by force.
FDI to West Africa $11bn
Population West Africa: 388million.

FDI to east Africa $7.6bn
Population East Africa: 440 million.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201806070038.html
Do the maths yourself. I don't think you need help with that. You should learn to know things before talking like an authority on them.

On the Times Higher Education ranking, what I posted was the only thing I could find for 2013--2015.If you can bring another one,bring it and let's see. Until then stfu. Or maybe you could please explain how legon fell so hard that even a private university in Nigeria could beat it silly by 2019,in addition to UI.

Do South Africans really feel African - I know their top political & business leaders are trying to - but I think average South African has the same concept of African like Ethiopia and Northern African countries. They only feel African when convinient but spend a whole lot of time denying their African-ess - I know nobody really can be proud of Africa now - it such a shithole - but we are AFRICANS.

https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/opinion/columnists/2017-11-10-ignorance-creates-africans-who-dont-see-themselves-as-such/

At the Essence Literary Festival in Durban last month, the deputy mayor Fawzia Peer welcomed guests to the festival, singling out people from "out there in Africa".

She spoke about Africans - who, in her analysis, did not include South Africans.

I guess you've had occasions where your friends or family talk about "going to Africa" as if South Africa is not part of the continent.

In order to say that South Africa doesn't feel like Africa, you would have to first believe in a huge fallacy, which is that Africa is one thing.
I think this subliminal xenophobia is informed mainly by fear. Fear that we don't want to be "backward like the rest of Africa"

Lionessza6:
LMFAO , when I said you were trying too hard to be smart or relevant , I wasn't kidding . What is all this rant about ?. Did South Africans reject their Africanism , in what way ?. Any south african here claimed to be better than Ethiopians or you are simple pissed because we didn't give you the accolades you usually recieve from the " real black Africans"? . Digging up opinion pieces by random people is kinda making you look pathetic. RSVP, tayser , joraid and the many Nigerians here have talked about the much work we still have ahead of us in fully transforming the country, xhosanostra and vaxx also touched on this last night , but it seems now you want to be the bride on the wedding .

Sweetheart I really don't want to get into the many problems Ethiopia has because it will not make those of South Africa disappear . I told you we are both aliens in each other's worlds, and absolutely nothing in common except that both of our societies were isolated from other Africans for a long-time. Just like you wish for nothing South African, trust me i doubt there is any South African who wish for South Africa to be Ethiopia. I have some respect of your history but don't get it twisted and think I would like to trade places with you .

I will ask you again .....WHAT IS YOUR POINT ?.

Maybe you have a new definition of urban. Slums are informal urban settlement. Go get some education. The opposite is rural - countryside.

samsobo24:
Ignoramus Kenyan
Not Lagos city

The whole lagos as a whole has about 80% urban land mass and not just the island.You're scared of believing that.

So you mean Nairobi metro is 100% urban,i bet that even Nairobi metro is about maybe 60 or 70 % when we calculate the developed part of the city like mathare,kintengela,kibera,korogocho and other world class slums etc


Nairobi central is like

CBD ....... forest....... SLUMS.............................................. Few developed places like Westland,Upper hill
............. White Estates...... SLUMS............... SLUMS..............Karen Estate.......

See how you have about 4 of the worlds biggest slums in your central area coupled with other 66 minor slum areas and you claim fallaciously that Nairobi metro is 100% urban



most European settlers and other whites reside in
Karen, Langata , Lavington , Gigiri, Muthaiga, Brookside, Spring Valley, Loresho, Kilimani, Kileleshwa, Hurlingham, Runda, Kitisuru, Nyari, Kyuna, Lower Kabete, Westlands , and Highridge .Black kenyans find it difficult to think of dreaming to live here.


I bet that you and other kenyan e-wars live in the slums



Watch films like "the constant gardener" and see how blessed kenya is with slums

Communism/Ujamaa did a number on their work ethic.They are incredibly lazy time-wasters.You see because irrespective of how hard you worked under Nyerere's Ujamaa you'd still get the same share of pay/harvest - and you coudln't skive work & risk getting whipped - so Tazanians figured out how to maliciously and deliberately waste time rather than engage in productive work. So if you go ask for tea - in a hotel - the waiter will spend 5-10 mins exchanging pleasantries - how is your home, your village, your pet - then he'll bring a cup - talk some more about your country or some story- and eventually he'll come with cold tea - excuse himself - go heat it - and then come back 30mins later - You can imagine complex stuff - those take forever.

gallivant:
Is it true though, I heard a sloth moves faster than a Tanzanian in a rush. I need to know.

Idiotic rant from the lazy citizen of a least developed (LDC), Heavily indebted (HIC) donor-depended country (DDC) with 35% malnourished people despite having twice the kenya land size(Equivalent to Nigeria) that is mostly arable, lots of minerals (gold, diamond,uranium), with longest most stable gov in Africa and that ranks bottom 10-20 in nearly any index of progress.

I mean other countries in Africa have pretty good reasons why they are poor. Some can say they are arid & under constant drought or lack any natural resources or are war-ravaged or are corrupt or tribal/clan/ warfare or religious warfar or sanctions like Zimbwabe.

Tanzania in the whole world is the only country I know is poor thanks to STUPIDITY and or Laziness.

I mean if you ask why is Tanzania one of world poorest country - you get BLANKS. KaziKazi best answer is "governance". Their leadership are not corrupt - by any standards.

Just visit Tanzania - and meet the world most laziest people who will take 30 minutes to serve tea in a tea pot preferring to gossip the whole day.

Kazikazi:
Stupid kiberan!

Capitalism isn't the answer of all mankind problems.Yes,capitalism have done something in USA and western Europe but not in Kenya! Your type of capitalism is unknown in this world.Most of your economy is under Europeans while the capitalism which is in america is the opposite of what we see in Kenya.Most of Americans assets and big companies are under americans! Think of Ford,coca cola,apple,Microsoft, etc all are owned by Americans!

Back to kibera republic...
Most of your economy is under few foreigners! Most of the Kenyans are marginalized.They were forsaken in Turkana and other parts of Kenya.What you did was failing to copy Americans. You should do what they did...to own your economy! The results are clearer.
Starvation is killing your own.Today you are flocking to TZ for employment, you're killing yourself for water! Tribalism is killing many in Kenya.You are failing to pay your doctors. You came to TZ to learn agriculture, sewage management, fighting terrorism, banking and so forth!

Are you still be proud of your policies? Policies which made you to starve because you gave away all of your fertile land to whites? Are you happy to see most of your country is dark as a hole? Anyway, Are you still ranked as a failed state?

Nairobi the now the no-brainer the HQ of Africa. But I think we need to relax work permits. But maybe we don't need them bringing foreigners when Kenyans can hack the job. I know Rwanda's Kigali getting some limited action.

Jonraid:
FACEBOOK TO OPEN CONTENT REVIEW CENTRE IN NAIROBI


The centre is expected to employ to 100 reviewers by the end of the year that will support a number of languages, including Somali, Oromo, Swahili and Hausa.



Facebook’s Public Policy Director Africa Ebele Okobi says this is part of the firm’s continued investment across sub-Saharan Africa and commitment to safety and security on its platform.

The centre is in partnership with Samasource – one of the largest digital employers in East Africa and a leading social enterprise.

“This further highlights our commitment to serving the community of people using our platforms across Africa, as well as our commitment to continuing to invest and partner locally across the continent. I am delighted that through our partnership with Samasource we will be opening our first content review centre here in Africa,” Okobi said.

Fazdai Madzingira, Public Policy Associate for content said over the years, Facebook has made significant investments globally, and locally in ensuring that people see the content they want to see, and are aware of what is and isn’t allowed on the platform.

“We want Facebook to be a place where people can express themselves and freely discuss different points of view, whilst ensuring that it remains safe for everyone,” Madzingira added.

Carolyn Komen, Samasource Program Director said the partnership with Facebook in Nairobi will help keep Facebook safe.

“We use technology and private sector methods to measurably improve access to work and job training. Our team will receive extensive training and support, benefit from industry-leading facilities, and have the opportunity to advance their careers in tech through this partnership.”

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2019/02/facebook-to-open-sub-saharan-africa-content-review-centre-in-nairobi/

They should entice Uganda with one tower, Rwanda with another and Burundi another - so hopefully Dar port can start doing half what Mombasa does - despite Tanzania neighboring like 10 landlocked countries.

NairobiWalker:
The 3 towers are still unoccupied yet they've topped out 5 more already. Currently they have 11 skyscrapers topped out and that;s all they got, nothing is breaking ground now and nothing is going to for a very long time.

Yes fixing Zim - would go a long way.Mozambique pretty much fixed now.

chrisooblog:
you also sound reasonable for a kenyan. but don't pat yourself on the back alot of your compatriots reasoning on this thread still defies logic.

yes they have to address their immigration issues but the long term solution would be to assist fellow SADC nations like zimbabwe, mozambique etc so their economies would be buoyant enough to encourage their citizens to stay in their respective countries and not going to SA to constitute a nuisance.

Precisely. They are just in 1970s - where Gov is investing in grandiose projects instead of building roads, funding health, education and providing gov services. Instead of expanding the Dar Port - they forced the port operator to build two empty towers . Why would a port need two 34 towers tall towers? They need to dredge the port, buy cranes and such kind of stuff - no invest in real estate.

NairobiWalker:
Somebody once came with that argument here before. I listed him all Kenyan complete skyscrapers, they were 10 and all owned by Kenya with foreigners having a few stakes in Britam, UAP and LeMac. They had only 6 complete skyscrapers and one of them 100% foreign owned with foreigners having stakes in another. Most of their skyscrapers under construction are either foreign owned or majority foreign owned yet they keep coming here for the same argument. The Tanzanian brothers, their government did what our government did in late 60s and 70s - build government owned towers. Now most of the new towers in Dar lack occupancy and since 2015, no new skyscraper has broken grown. All the new skyscrapers are already topped out now. Trust me, that skyline is going to remain unchanged for a very long time.

You see this is how the cookie crumbled. Tanzania's Nyerere nationalized or attempted to nationalized foreign companies in his communist quest of Ujamaa - the private sector basically overnight disappeared - or thriving companies soon became moribund as parastals.

Tanzania went bankrupt exactly 20yrs later. Nyerere resigned and got into his bicycle - the only earthly possession he had and admitted he had failed.

Now kenya went the opposite direction. We built local capacity first. And when blacks were ready - we asked foreign companies to localize ownership. Kenya gov ordered foreign companies in 1980s to sell 1/3 of it's shareholding to kenya.British-American in 1984s sold 33% of it shareholding to Local black shareholders. Slowly local black shareholding has increased to now nearly 90% - majority owned by black kenyans. And eventually the Britam parent company completely dissociated with local company - the named got changed from British-American to Britam.

Britam Kenya - then expanded to Tanzania (after you learnt the bitter lessons), Uganda, South Sudan, Rwanda,Malawi, and Mozambique.

That story is replicated in many kenya companies. Kenyans studiously understudying the British and American coorporates - taking over -and expanding.

Now Kenya companies are building skyscrappers, hotels, investing abroad and name it - and paying taxes. It called PRIVATE SECTOR.Now Tanzanaia - poor Tanzania - you gov still has to build Skyscrappers - instead of funding health or education. Kenya was there in 1970s..

We keep telling you again and again - We are SMART. YOURE STUPID. Like Nigerians.

Kenyatta, Moi, Kibaki, Uhuru and all kenya political & civil elite all retire as billionaires. The country creates as many millionaires as oil rich nigeria or gold rich South Africa.

Now Magufuli is back - to Nyererizing Tanzania and the outcome is well know. BANKRUPTCY.

Kazikazi:
That is 31 floors tower in Nairobi.its the tallest in Kenya.Its owned by Britons and Americans. (Britam=British american)
I think you rather ask about this New tower in TZ.Owned by gov of TZ.

Okay. You sound a little sophisticated for a Nigeria. Congratulations. I now have very dim view of Nigerians.

Anyway I think immigration issues in South Africa is a failure of leadership. The Citizens are taking things on their hand because leadership won't act.

No country of 50M - should be forced to take 10M refugees - and I pity South Africans because they've got all these guys coming claiming some debt over apertheid war.

South Africa need to tighten it's immigration arm - and deport as many as they come illegally.

chrisooblog:
lol first of i'm not south african i be proper naija second i agree nationals from other african countries don't get received with open arms in SA compared to the way the rest of the continent was so supportive during the apartheid era. i would agree that alot of nigerians up to no good might have contributed to South Africans paranoia but even at that you still get the impression as a foreigner who is a black african especially that you are not welcome. maybe i'm reading things wrong but it's definitely noticeable in subtle ways here and there.

about recession well a lot of G7 countries like italy, america experience economic downturns from time to time so that point is mute.

at the end of the day if south africans say they don't want black african foreigners to come to their countries it's then the responsibility of the rest of us africans to fix our individual countries so like we nigerians say ''dey won't use to do shakara"

Perfect description.Like KaziKazi - South Africa is their first semblance of a functional state. They worship it. They would kill their mothers for RSA Citizenship.You can bet they probably have pseudo-accounts where they pass for South Africans.

NairobiWalker:
That one is a special case. He can't speak for himself. He stands at the edges and waits for anyone to mention South Africa then comes here and tags all South Africans on this forum. He can't speak anything without mentioning South Africa. Some time back the South African girl Lionessza saw through his bullshit and thrashed his ass and told him off with his simping bullshit ..........you should have seen how he begged for forgiveness like a child. Interestingly on other threads, he's completely ashamed of Nigeria. Him and kumamoto are a bird of the same feather.

That is true. When edinited hears that - she doesn't go into a fit. She readily admits her country ills and distance herself personally.

XhosaNostra:
The funny thing is, Ethiopians are the most snobbish people, especially the women. They think they're better because of the hair. They don't assimilate. They stick to their own. The men are more open minded though.

I still don't understand. Nairobi is 100% urban. Nairobi metro has some peri-urbans areas. You mean Lagos has 25% rural? Unless you're confusing built-up-areas - otherwise Nairobi forests, rivers, lakes, and animal parks - are also urban

samsobo24:
You know nothing

Lagos is Africa's largest city being one of the most smallest in size.Havent you asked yourself why Lagos is the most urbanized African city.

Every area in Lagos is bustling
I tell you that there is no difference between a rural lagos and maybe a minor city in lagos because you will see the heavy presence of stuffs that make up a city like


Filling stations,shops,roads with street lights and road signs, drainage systems

Dont you know Nairobi is about 30% urban and the rest is .......

Read and Educate yourself about urbanization in Lagos
Nairobi isn't worth the full standard of a city, quote me at any hour or time

You sound like xenophobic xhosa man with his machete. Honestly I doubt many kenyans are emigrating to your crime-infested and zero-growth country. Why would I want to immigrate to South Africa. The economy is under recession. East Africa economies are booming. I will probably move to Ethiopia first - I need to go there and buy their corn/maize - but South Africa - is only interesting for countries with more issues like Nigeria or Zimbwabwe - and our lazy neighbours Tanzania who knows how to smooch your welfare systems.

The only poor kenyans I know in South Africa - are few kikuyus in curios business - nothing more than that. And then students in your universities.

XhosaNostra:
So? How is that any of your fucking business? Stay at home or keep to yourself. Everyone has a right to choose who they associate with. If your community was more diverse, you'd understand it better. It's no different to when Ethiopians in South Africa choose to live in places where other Ethiopians live, attend Ethiopian churches & eat at Ethiopian restaurants etc. Do we complain about that? Nope. Because it is within your rights to choose the company you keep. But don't impose your culture & ways on us or bìtch about it when we don't do things like you do. This is not Addis Ababa. Your traditions end at your doorstep.

We settle on 10yr visa for students and business. Maybe we might even have visa on arrival?

Kazikazi:
What happened to that begging which Uhuru begged south Africa for a free visa?

I'd love to travel from Borno to Chad or Niger or Cameroon

68816419:
which other parts of Kenya got tarmac roads out side some parts of central Kenya and some parts of Mombasa?, come to northern Nigeria and be wowed with quality of roads in various states
bellow pcs are roads in Yola,Adama state (north eastern part of Nigeria )
First pic- Yola-Gombe Express ways
Second pic - Yola airport
last pics roads in yola (boko haram affected state

Indeed - like Nyerere - in 10yrs - when he finally complete his two terms - Tanzania will be bankrupt and World-Bank will be invited to fix it.

gallivant:
That's great. Within 3 - 5 years Magufool will have run Tanzania to the ground. Once the Kenyan economy was bigger than Tanzania by a mere 2 billion, today our economy is almost twice that of bongolalas. That's why kazikazi is pissed, and also we bought their cashew nuts and saver their poor farmers.

The issues at hand - racism in ethiopia versus in South Africa - one of the azanias want to make it a security problem. That I think is dishonest. You air of arrogance and pride is well earned. You're mostly second world. But be very careful - you're going down very fast. The economy has been in or near recession for nearly a decade - countries are fast catching up. Give Kenya 10 more years - and continue burying your head in the sands - and we will zoom just right passed you.

chrisooblog:
sorry i don't get you could you explain the bold. as per south africans ''air of arrogance and pride'' how is it there fault that you lack self esteem?

What I was hoping for. You acknowledge that you've got racism problem - that white woman pulled the kid from black kid - mostly because of that. Nobody would berate South Africans. Everyone know you've had a huge racial problem - one of world worst - that became full-fledged apartheid or grade-separation of races.

XhosaNostra:
No, it's just annoying when people keep pointing fingers at South Africa as if they have no issues of their own back home. South Africa is not perfect & we're very much aware of that. The guilt tripping, subtle manipulation & holier-than-thou attitude simply doesn't fly. So what are we supposed to do? Provide more security, tenderness & care for Ethiopians when our own citizens have to go through the very same things? Really, if South Africa is such a devilish place, people should do themselves a favour & keep away. We tired of all the bìtching & moaning as if we sent personal invites for sheltered people to come here, to be exposed to crime etc.

Unless she is in charge of VISA - I'll be visiting Cape town soon. I have been to Joburg before. I know you're holled up there - probably an illegal immigrant - but I have no desire to live in that crime-infested country. I value my life more.

Kazikazi:
Don't try to shift things around. She said don't come to south Africa.Why are you still trying to work it out? Don't you have mind to understand? She means stay in kibera,if not go to mukuru

Okay maybe they should just erect refugees camps - in dry places of South Africa - and dump most of illegal immigrants there. That is what we do in kenya. It cheaper that way.

But surely allowing 10M illegal immigrants to freely roam the streets.

Not possible in Kenya. We carry National Identification papers EVERYWHERE. You cannot survive as illegal in kenya.

edon21:
you skipped Kenyans
but their govt can't try it to Nigeria or they ll receive the Senate hammer

We didn't intend to discuss South Africa. It came as a by-the-way - an example - a personal anecdote of the difference btw how races or tribes treat each other. I think we know why this is big deal. We are talking dry bones in the presence of old women. We know you're ashamed to acklowedge and deal with your horrible racial relation history. One of world most horrible.The Ethiopian acknowledged they mistreat the southern darker tribes. It goes without saying that we Kenya have huge tribal issues.

What is very apparent from talking to South Africans - is an air of arrogance and pride - misplaced in my view - that because they are so far ahead the rest of Africa should worship the ground their walked on. Never mind - - okay let me not pull the white race card I think Nigerians do that better.

chrisooblog:
he may have gone about it in a harsh manner but the spirit of what the south african poster is saying is all african countries including yours have eish they are dealing with so it would be hypocritical and unproductive to be wasting time pointing at other countries issues when you should be re-directing such energies to your individual countries.

nobody forced you to go to south africa to deal with their ''issues''. i'm here in nigeria somalia, afghanistan and syria have problems but why do i need to go to their countries to gloat when i haven't solved all the development issues affecting my country?

The cause of xenophobia & crime is the income inequality that is accentuated by the racial divide. And of course the uncontrolled immigrations that denies south african citizens their rights - as they have to struggle with 10M poor Africans for the little the gov throws their way.

South Africa need to do mass deportation of Nigerians, Ethiopeans, Zimbwabweans, Somalis and Mozambiqueans.

They will huge hue and cry. But surely South Africa doesn't owe the entire Africa poor a place.

They need trump. Just round up all illegal immigrants and send them packing.

edon21:
South Africa is always overhyped
sometimes I keep thinking thinking of the cause of xenophobia

You don't own South Africa. The Ethiopia came, and he or she felt mistreated with her kids by what appeared to be overt racism. You have explained it probably coz you got an even bigger problem of run away crime - and people can't live like normal lifes - kids can't play - until they are taken through CIA screening. That is fair.

Don't personalize South Africa. It doesn't belong to you. If I come again - I'll come aware of the risks - of crime & racism - and that pretty much how it goes.

Every country has issues. And I won't feel bad if you said kenya had XYZ issues - and need to work on them. As long as we keep it objective.

And last time the Whites were pressing black South African gonads - you ran all over Africa and world - looking for help. I think it's about time you ran all over world asking for crime busting help.

XhosaNostra:
Then don't come. Finish. You have a choice in both options. It's not by force.
We have millions of visitors each year. The numbers are increasing because not everyone has a lopsided view of South Africa like you do. You won't be missed.