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Overall it paint a good picture of somewhat balance growth without huge regional disparities. Yeap Nairobi contributing merely 22% is the big shocker. What is apparent is that agriculture has continued to rise to nearly 30% of GDP and manufacturing has gone down to around 8-10%. The agriculture that is rising is the high value crops (avacados, nuts,dairy, flowers, tea ) - and those counties doing a lot of that like Nyandarua & Nakuru are doing great.Methodology wise; they see to have split GDP into agri, manufacturing and services. I think real estates/construction industry got somehow lost - hence the under-perfromance of Nairobi & Mombasa.

kikuyu1:
A very interesting stat came out last night! Our GCP,Gross County Product. Nairobi was always hugely overestimated contributing not 60% not half,not even 40% but only 22% of national GDP of 90bn$.

Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/298422-list-top-10-biggest-county-economies-kenya-according-knbs.html#298422

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Counties have grown tremendously! Nyandarua for example has double from around 1600$ in 2013 to 3200$ now.

Rvp20183,can you spare us a breakdown of the top 6 counties GDP per capita?

First Pic looking eerily similar to Nairobi - with Times & UAP towers visible. Kindly use Ibandan slumpolis pictures.

samorobo:
Picture ibadan city better than the entire begging ghana put together. .

Precisely - and that is why PPP is never used for comparing countries - but mostly for internal analysis - like poverty assessment. PPP doesn't take into account taxes, quality of goods & services, transport cost and etc. A haircut in Newyork is not the same haircut in DarSlums.In fact the higher the difference btw nominal GDP and the PPP - the more poverty in that country. You can see such in Tazania & Nigeria. More poverty Low income & wages - leading to cheaper goods and services - but eventually as they grow richer - their PPP & nominal GDP difference will disappear.

PPP are never intended to compare countries - they are misleading because don't reflect the actual conditions of countries. And therefore nominal GPD (in USD) is what counts.

Jonraid:
But this method also fails to count for different price regimes or taxes in different countries! Our beer tax is one of the highest in the world but our beverage industry is one of Africa's best.People still drink anyways no matter the taxes and it's normal for them because that's the prices! Our sin tax is very punitive,yet this industries flourish.

I guess all metrics have their flows! It's interesting seeing that this list would change if you factor in per capita PPP for example!

Now that is incredible beauty. I wish more African cities would plant trees like those jacaradas.

sufferNsmiling:
City of kings

Total failure. You can imagine they get paid maybe 100 dollars or less. And the gov owes them salary arrears. That is why Nigeria military have staged six successfully coups and many others that didn't see the light.

Jonraid:
This is why the Bokoharam war is not over yet! Plus,Soldiers on the ground must use much more appropriate means to move about and not Toyota Vans!

I think for Somalis - if you're not their family or at worse clan-mates - then you're nothing to them. Their concept of humanity ends about there.

Sgbate:
Wow, matured people really do that, is that how bad some Somalis can be? especially doing that in a country you not a native of

I think they are very close to Indians in behaviour - and they pretty much need to stay alone - they are mostly insufferable and inscrutable. They are proud and insular. But what works for them is their incredibly strong family ties - and great business acumen.They are uncultured in modern ways and refuses to be cultured. But maybe education will eventually tame them - big maybe - I don't see much "culture" in the indians I see. I have had Indians who studied in the harvards and with phds - and they remain chained to Indian culture. In kenya I think both Somalis & Indians basically stay on their own apartments and even districts.

XhosaNostra:
Here they usually live on their own. People avoid flats where Somalis live, because we're too different. To avoid a clash, we avoid them. That imo is much better than trying to wrap your head around why they do certain things. Fights are not completely unavoidable though because we still have to deal with them in public places. Not too long ago another one of their females was being yelled at, at the clinic. She placed her handbag on the seat next to her, forcing someone else to stand. They don't understand the concept of sharing. People were telling her that the chairs were public property & not hers to hog. They cannot live with others. They have zero social skills & cannot grasp the meaning of social etiquette.

India I think is largest importer - maybe Nigeria is the largest importer of refined fuels.

sufferNsmiling:
I have told you kenyans that nigerians are empty vessels.. the think here is most kenyans have not stayed in nigeria for long enough to know nigerians inside out. Do you know nigeria is the world's biggest importer of petrol. Just look at all the nigerian empty vessels they move this nice thread from politics to foreign affairs because other african countries hit them so hard.

https://www.legit.ng/1155195-nigeria-currently-worlds-largest-importer-petrol-baru.html

Is that placard just hurriedly printed paper that got clued to the wall

samsobo24:
Fashola commissions power projects in lagos.

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t1ann:
How can you be among the world largest producers of oil
And you become the world largest importer of petrol
Banana republic indeed

Easy quote it here. Secondly your education is nothing to write home about. All the tech companies that I see out of Lagos are started by returning diasporas. It more like your football now. You're going around the world trying to pick 20m diaspora Nigerians whose upbringing is anything but Nigeria. Your country without oil and it's huge diaspora would be one big zoo.

obaaderemi:
That's expected, coming from a little Indian whose biggest companies and especially tech companies were all started by foreigners. The idiot you are trying to save said "America gets its technology from Germany and Korea gets its technology from China." He wasn't implying initial influence as you are trying to say here. Maybe you should read people's posts before rushing to comment so that you stop exposing your inherent stupidity. If that Ghanaian half-baked dolt sounds like a man with superb education to you all because you are licking each other's azzz, then so much for Ghanaian and Kenyan education.

That rich from a Nigerian. The Ghanian who has superb education indeed was giving your an historical perspectives. US copied it's technology from British & Germans (likes of Einstein & german scientist moved en-mass to US during Nazi). You see technological advancement is not permanent. Britain for most 19th century and early part of 20th century - were the leaders of technology - and German during Hilter period really ratched things up - and eventually US - USSR took the mantle. Japan did their copy-paste. Then Koreans & Taiwan. And recently the Chineses. You copy-paste initially, make enough money to invest in your own R& - and soon enough you start producing your own IPs.

obaaderemi:
Don't blame the guy too much. He may even be the same person as sufferinsmiling judging by the quality of his ideas. The only difference is that there's a little, if a slight, difference in their grasp of English language. The guy obviously does not know that Samsung has two plants in China making phones for the Chinese market but not the Korean market. Again, how can an educated person say America gets its technology from Germany when the USA guides its technology jealously and is even ahead of Germany in terms of technological breakthrough? I blame Ghanaian education. People have turned nairaland to beer parlour where you misinform benighted minds.

Kur17:
Percentage of population living under poverty line

Figures for Botswana and Namibia don't look okay

Eldoret's Pearl River SEZ is joint venture btw David Langat & Chinese Pearl Industries. I think it's under construction. David Langat gave the chinese 1,000 acres and gov gave them SEZ license - so hopefully they will expedite it.

We need more of those esp outside Nairobi - where labour can be as competitive as Ethiopia. Uganda are building more of those Chinese parks - with Museveni donating forest land to them.

I am optimistics about the private industrial parks - but gov industrial parks - just big promises and nothing. Until they give it to some chinese gov - it won't happen.

tylann:
What about the industrial park which was being built in eldoret
What happened to it
We need to revive rivatex

Eventually Yes- they have grown in 5yrs from 12m to 50m dollars worth of apparrel- that is 4 times - so another 5yrs - they may be doing 250 - and we will probably be stuck around 500M- so they may overtake us in 10yrs - unless we wake up.

tylann:
But they will overtake us
They just launched another industrial park

Industrial park - is just large grouping of warehouses or factories - mostly owned by one firm or gov.EPZ/SEZ are gazetted industrial zones or parks exclusively for export. Industrial area - is a geographic zone restricted for industries like Nairobi Industrial Area or Mlolongo-Athi or Ruiru or Thika.

tylann:
I get the difference
They confuse me industrial parks , export processing zones, special economic zones

And Ethiopi although fast rising - is really far behind in Apparel/Garments exports - compared to Kenya - at least as far US markets

I think they are different. Ethiopia Industrial parks are gov owned industries - Ethiopia gov get some land and build the warehouses - and then invite manufacturers. I think it doesn't matter if you're exporting or not. It would be similar to KIA - Kenya industrial Estates - which mainly deal with small cottage industries.

Kenya Industrial parks are mainly privately sector driven.

I think the big private ones under development are the likes of Tatu, Infinity, Northland, RiverPearls(Eldoret),Tilisi and such.

Then we have EPZs - biggest being in Athi (built by both public/gov & private sector) - although many private industries can apply and become EPZ - these are industries created mainly for exports - anywhere in the country. There are more than 80 SEZs in Kenya doing around 700M dollars.worth of exports.

Gov plans to do what Ethiopia would be completing the Leather Industrial park in Athi, Naivasha Industrial park and Dongo Kundu one. I am not sure how far the gov should go - maybe just providing the horizontal infrastructure would be good - and private sector - chinese - can come and build the factories.

So while we can learn a lot from Ethiopia public sector driven manufacturing - Ethiopia is a long way from Kenya's private sector manufacturing.

tylann:
Ethiopia has more industrial parks than kenya
You just launched a new one recently
Kenya has export processing zones i dont know if it is the same thing as industrial parks
Labour in Ethiopia is cheap that is why industrial parks are developing in ethiopia very fast
In kenya labour is a bit expensive

Nigeria paid to qualify for 2010 worldcup.
n another interview with Al Jazeera, Perumal confessed to have helped Nigeria qualify for the World Cup in South Africa through his links in the Harambee Stars camp.

He flew to Nairobi a day before Kenya hosted the Super Eagles at Kasarani stadium on November 14, 2009 to seal the deal.

“I’ve got two or three players in the Kenyan team and they’ll ensure Nigeria win on the day … two of them were starting in the match while one was on the bench, I spoke to the players and they agreed to help Nigeria win,” he revealed.

As predicted, Nigeria ran away 3-2 winners to book a ticket to the World Cup in South Africa as group “B” leaders after Mozambique shocked favourites Tunisia 1-0.

I mean the 2nd most efficient port after Durban in South Africa in SSA. The one that beat both Apapa & TinCan ports of Nigeria in everything - number of containers processed, cargo, efficiency, name it. For emphasis combined - as Lagos port complex.

theenchanter:
u mean d same mombasa port that can't compete with a certain port in Congo?

Lamu port is nearing completion - and it's receiving the first ship this year. Mombasa does more than twice your cargo throughput. And beat both Apapa & Tin Can of Nigeria. Mombasa is doing 33M metric tonnes. Dar port is not even at 15M. Lagos complex - both ports - MORIBUND - can't beat Mombasa. Say way Lagos Murtala Airport cannot smell JKIA -Nairobi now.

You make great buddies - Nigeria and Tanzanai - the two African laggards.

Kazikazi:
And that is the last they have

Your slumpolis doesn't generate 10% of kenya revenue(20B dollars) - majority of it earned in Nairobi. Please get a grip of yourself. I know you nigerians are literally loosing your minds and are now just blurting nonsense.

Your slumspolis with 20M people has a budget of less than 3B dollars. Collects about 2B dollars or less. And is indebted to it's eye-balls.

samsobo24:
My God

Slumpolis

And yet the total landmass of the island alone beats anything kenya calls development.
What if we add ikeja,surulere,Yaba,Maryland etc all on the mainland.

Lagos is a slumpolis and yet generates two times the total revenue of whole Kenya and Nairobi.
Don't bring in Capetown,having urban slums simply shows ineffective planning of urban cities.

Lagos with a huge population doesn't even have an urban slum, simply because it has put town planning into consideration.

Go and prevent more slums from popping up and begin to invest in moder transport systems.

Your humble neighbours(TZ) can show you the way

I did. I showed you a road with more than 12 lanes - and 4 more service lanes. You picked a toll booth in lekki epe expressway.

After the toll booth - this is the road
https://i1.wp.com/www.thetrentonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/3.-Lekki-Epe-Expressway-1155x770.jpg?fit=1155%2C770&ssl=1

You really can't compare to this. Those are like 3-4 levels
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samsobo24:
Already ranting again

Always proving something out of nothing. If its tiny,then bring the said road that is bigger to compete.

Don't shift goal posts,you will sent out and banned from playing football

Azam I guess is your Dangote. He is everything.

Kazikazi:
Those loans you are taking from China will make you loose your Mombasa port! I warn you.
But anyway,you sound thirsty. Here is the best juices in east africa

Slums versus Slumpolis 101. Refer back. Capetown is without doubt the most beatiful city in Africa and it has slums - so does Joburg. Lagos doesn't have slums - it is a slum - with few nice islands.

samsobo24:
That ranking wasn't based on a solid reason.I have seen several criticism from different sources over such poor ranking.
Wait till Lagos IPP is completed.

NOW

Why does Nairobi alone overide other cities of the world by having 4 of the total biggest slums of the world,with a tiny population not even up to half of Lagos.
I mean,over 66 areas called slums in a single Capital city. That's very pathetic, it gives me sleepless nights that half of total nairobians live in slums

lekki epe expressway- I checked it - apart from the toll booth - it very tiny. In Kenya we don't have toll roads. We pay road levy as part of the petrol.

samsobo24:
I won't waste my time posting Abuja pics.
Type lekki epe expressway and see if there is any wide road like that in your slumpolis

Type Abuja roads on Google and see the results.

Nairobi can only dream of anything better than Lagos.

You're already begging, hold on,im not done with you yet; D

We will come for it. I think we are 2nd after 200M goliath Nigeria in importing wines. We can buy your country -and still have spare change- and you know that.

1Kshs is like what 23 Tshs.

Kazikazi:
But you can't eat cashews all day! Why don't you come for a wine? We got the best wines

Eko City as far as I know is as empty as Konza.

samsobo24:
what are you buttressing.



You seem to be confused


stay on a single lane


You've already changed it to human development, what a confused huma being
So you've changed the topic to business. What of when Bill Gates and other business men came to visit.
Several multi national companies are already buying their lands to build their towers in the city.

Now tell me konza is already 5% completed and i will take you serious

Toll gates. Otherwise the roads itself is tiny.

edon21:
Lagos
count

Old Pic of Nairobi upperhill.

We bought enough cashew nuts to last a century.

Kazikazi:
You sound hungry! Did Kenya manage to overcome the shortage of potatoes due to poor farming? Tanzania is ready to assist you

So you are already hosting tourism in Eko City. That mus be spectacle. Okay so lets assume horizontal infrastructure is done - now when are we seeing business people coming there and building the towers. We are interested in human development.

You see you built a steel plant for 8B dollars - it's 99% complete - but not a single steel billet yet.

And you built Abuja from the scratch - and it's ranks as worse as Bangui or Niamey or Lagos.

samsobo24:
I swear,I'm already rolling in laughter

My claims were right,hahahhaahaha

I said your only definition of development is tower.Don't tell me the;

Storm drainage and the sewer systems
The roads bridges
The water lanes for water transport
The energy estate
The water systems
The beautification
The landscaping
The hosting of tourism in the city already completed are all towers

Illiterate Kenyan

Besides show any planned city or smart city,don't bring konza

Watch as he goes to hide in the holes where he belongs