₦airaland Forum

If Nigeria gov owns it 100% - the board will still be 100% gov appointed. You cannot call that independent. Unless you sell at least 40-49 percent - just enough to bring in private sector - hopefully strategic partner who knows oil n gas - without losing control - you're wasting time. Next gov will fill up NNP board with relatives, girlfriends and boyfriends

Shaytun:
Independent of government in its day to day running.
As it should have been, government have no business running enterprise, they are very poor in capitalism.

The Nigerian government is a shareholder.

Owned by NNPC 49 percent.

Shaytun:
Ever heard of NLNG?

It’s controls 10% of the world liquified gas market.

When nigeria new gas train comes on board that number is bound to increase to around 16%.

The company will soon be bigger than Kenya itself.

We trade in East Africa in our currencies. As long as trade is both ways - there will be demand for kSHS in Ghana - and Cedis in kenya.

theenchanter:
the emboldened are things that needed to the sorted before rushing into the trade agreement.

I don't see it working sha.... But that's just my own opinion.

As for the currency, it's also very important because of the difference in exchange rate of African countries. If u sell ur tea to Ghana, what currency will u collect from Ghana? Cedis or KSh? Knowing fully well that there's exchange rate difference in the currencies.

Some countries will even cry over it, mark my word.

It's a good start. I dont see one currency as being impediment. Transport system require urgent work. There a lot of hardwork required to remove tarrifs, change laws, open up borders, remove passports requirements for travel intra-africa...so many low hanging fruits...before we go for one currency, one language, one president..on united africa...in 200yrs from now.

theenchanter:
I still reiterate my stance over acfta that not until there's a common currency and interconnected transport system..... Acfta might not work. Only some paltry goods here and there will be traded.

Kenya tea export to Ghana - look like this Africa free trade might work.

Youre comparing 70 business that are operational...Tatu city already has thousands of workers...Alaro..with 59 committments..with zero operational factory. Stop smoking weed this early. Tatu city phase 1 sold out. Phase 2 is selling out. Alaro?

Seem it's just one factory and the universal homes under construction.

PROVERBZ:
there are 59 businesses in alaro.
And only 3 have something to do with Kenya.

1- Ariel foods owned by and Indian man masquerading as Kenyan.

2- universal homes owned by australians,new Zealanders, Americans and Russians.

3- nova pioneer. Registerd as a south African company but owned by a Nigerian who's dream was to build schools in his home country Nigeria.

There is no glory for Kenya to claim here.

Oil and gas investment since 1950s

obaaderemi:
You always talk like an illiterate. That's why we always have to lecture you here like a baby.

Nigeria is not ready for investment yet it routinely gets more fdi than your dirty slummy little India. Always talking without facts like a fool.

Turn out NPPC has not made profit in the last 40,yrs.

obaaderemi:
Govt shares in nnpc is worth over $10bn. You don't count in the same league as Nigeria.

Yet it's worse in oil producing countries... Algeria one is behemoth and so is Angola..Saudi Arabia Aramco is a beast

obaaderemi:
Yinmu.
You will look back on uhuru's time with nostalgia.

You simply don't know Ruto capacity and capabilities... Kenya after 10yrs will be unrecognizable

Kenya gov under Ruto lift ban on GMOS and now BT cotton will be launched soon plus other crops

Just40:
great you ask for that ...

Ghana debt servicing to revenue stands at 48%
Kenya parliamentary report put Kenya's debt servicing to revenue at 63% while Bloomberg puts it at 74%.

Unfortunately you can't meet your expenditure hence your borrowing for your budget and to pay salaries.

Kenya ordinary revenues are more than 20b dollars..debt repayment around 8 billion per year..stop inventing your figures

Just40:
Ghana has every means to repay it debt, Kenya does not.

Hence why your country took budgetary support IMF bailout last year and this year you have taken another IMF bailout to start repaying the Chinese loan despite several years of debt restructuring and freeze on debt repayment from china.

check debt servicing ratio..debt is repaid from taxes... Kenya ratio is not even at 40 percent.. Ghana is soon joining Nigeria at 100 per cent plus meaning being broke completely.Kenya problem is having to cut development or borrow to develop but we can meet our expenditures including debt repayment . Nigeria is borrowing to pay salaries.. Ghana going there

Pseudo history zanj and kambas ..the slaves DNA point at Ghana, Nigeria,Congo, Angola and Mozambique.

Justnotyou:
The Maa stance on slavery had been documented by scholars long before naira land was even a thing so you're literal inventing your own version of history on the Maa by suggesting otherwise. "The Maasai people stood against slavery and never condoned traffic of human beings; and outsiders looking for people to enslave avoided the Maasai. Essentially there are twenty-two geographic sectors or sub tribes of the Maasai community, each one having its own customs, appearance, leadership and dialects."
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+maasai+stance+on+slavery&oq=the+maasai+stance+on+sl&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33i160l4j33i22i29i30l3.11906j0j4&client=ms-android-huawei-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#:~:text=The%20Maasai%20people,leadership%20and%20dialects.

The Kamba, Kikuyu... arrived in Southern Kenya fairly recently & were surrounded by the Maa to the west & the coastal bantus to the east, their earliest ancestors left their genetic imprits in Kenya during the 3rd - 6th century CE, so most of their slave raids happen to have involved mostly Tanzanians, & the buyers were the Zanj who re-exported the slaves to the Indian Ocean market.

The only east Africans that were sold to the west (Brazil, Caribbean, USA) were from Mozambique & Madagascar by the Portuguese, lol the Asante had enough slaves & were the ones selling each other as slaves for meager things like rum, clothing, & the likes.

Maasai like most nilotes escaped from Sudan after resisting Arabic slaves trade way back before 10th century..Arab Islamic conquest were around 2nd to 5th century..they moved with horses converting Africans in Sahara to Islam when not enslaving them..there is no way the Maasai could condone slave trade back in Kenya in the 15th century after battling Arab horses previously.Maasai defended East Africa hinterland against slavery and colonialism until their civil war and rinderpest weaken them.. allowing the Brits and German to move in and sign peace treaty.The Arabs feared Maasai.The European were told not even think about attacking Maasai

Justnotyou:
Somehow you're even more pitiful, Zanj was the name adopted for the swahili coast by the middle eastern traders. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanj

Obviously as I've put it in perspective in my earlier response to just40s misguided stance, the Swahili/Zanj traded with their fellow middle eastern Muslims in slaves, the slaves came mostly from central African & southern African slaving grounds, Muslims rarely turn their fellow Muslims into slaves & guess the predominant religion for most of the swahili.

You're driving sense into the two morons with admirable patience's.Slaves in East Africa were mainly from Kongo and Buganda kingdom.They were bought by Arabs slave traders and taken to the coast to be sold.. mostly in Zanzibar

obaaderemi:
Indeed. You are really hard up for ass to kiss.

I will be last person to lynch him because he speaks facts...he only patriot who calls Nigeria what it is..out of deep love for your zoo.The zoo will only change when you call it what it is...not better than Zoomalia.Kenya has got to where it is through such patriots.You cannot call a zoo where electricity is a luxury, security unheard of,basic pipe water..name it..it's a zoo.. hopeless despite oil..last in almost every indices out there

Just40:
Take er..


The Arabians specifically set up breeding programs for your women slaves that were transported there

There are 44.44 million Afro Arabians whose ancestry can be trace directly to East Africa

Maybe in Egyptian Nubian .In era of genetic you're just incorrigible

obaaderemi:
When you go so low as to lick the arse of that illiterate, then I know you are having a bad time here.

He always speak facts despite his English

obaaderemi:
The bolded is so sad though true. And it is the reason they are so easily dominated.

Where are east African slaves now..pseudo history

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Complete the killers in Kenya vs the killing in Nigeria where the Bandit control nearly the whole of Nigeria and you look at another country and start opening your mouth

They actually occupy territory in Nigeria and therefore are not terrorist...they are an army...they drive tanks and have grenades launcher

Just40:
noise of a weakling from a region that had no civilization until they were colonized and castrated

Getting sold as slaves by your king for a piece of clothing is not civilization.How many cousins of yours are in American... millions...more than Ghanians who remain...you sent the best stock and remain with hobbits like you..dwarf n weak.The year of return... lol... negroid . European came and selected the best breed to work the farms.... left very poor stock in West Africa.

Just40:
It had to take the West African Armies to bring some quiet to your neighborhood Somalia as we had the most combat experience.

I learnt of how your East African soldiers check point kept being overruned there untill you guys were replaced by police units from all over west Africa... That is how useless of a weaklings you Kenyans are.

Coups is an expression of the will of the people to cast out the East African weakling spirit. So courageous were the Malians and Burkinabes to cast out the French trouble makers who kept putting their nose in their internal affairs... Now they've made huge progress in steming out terror in most of their territories even without ECOWAS help.

Kenya will need tactical galant soldiers from Burkina Faso and Mali in order to stem out terrorism from Nairobi

Madness as usual..get a grip of yourself.

Just40:
Don't lose your temper already.. frustration don't look good on you

Okay let's tackle your claims..

The Arab slave trade in East Africa exported the most slaves and went on for 700 plus year carrying 13 million people from tribes in Kenya and other places in East Africa.
You guys are such a disgrace of an African, Africans are not know to be that much of a weakling to be ruled by Arabs for more than 1000 years and then Europeans.

Even with the US base in your country, you're drowning into the Indian Ocean being overruned by terrorist so you think everyone is a weakling like your country.

Only if East Africa had a multinational force similar to what ECOWAS put up, you guys would have ended terrorism decades ago from your unstable region.
Mali and Burkina Faso have more capable armies to deal with their situation else they will be asking for ECOWAS help by now

Which Mali and Burkina Faso..they literally can't function without french soldiers...that is why there are blame game coups as army like Nigeria one can't hold islamist..Ivory coast same issues...at least Niger,Chad and CAR have some cojones.
My Ethiopia friend regale me on how west African negroid literally abandon bases and head south at sound of fire..it hilarious.Unless the French army return your west African negroid can't hold ground and they will be coups n coups as each coward blame the other for not holding grounds

Just40:
I will spare you because I know that you're foolish and don't know the history of your own country let alone those of others....

It was hard to colonize West Africans because we were more exposed and already had governing structures that everyone was beholden to and wasn't going to lay don't and take orders from someone else. It is also the reason why all the first political independence movement on the continent all started from West Africa, just after 10 years of Indirect rule when people realized the invincible hand.

Know this and know peace... Your entire region is a disgrace, except for Ethiopia.
Anyway, I don't expect much from barbarians who had no philosophy, history, literature, culture, tradition, government, thriving society, politics, economy or trade until the Arabs created one for them and the European expanded it.

Lash out you frustration somewhere else... Only real men can archive those stuff and beat the colonialist to opt for indirect rule

Shut up the f up you have exported more people than any country..slave gold coast..mad man.You got colonized for 300yrs.Youre a disgrace to the black race .weak negroid . Without french troops in Burkina Faso and Mali you will drown into the altantic ocean.Frech troops withdrawal has seen your neighborhood in huge mess..can't defend themselves...just sitting ducks

ProblemChild1:
If so. Then why are they still terrorizing your capital city

The last terror was dusit hotel...we get them..kill many before they get Nairobi daily despite Somalis occupying huge part of Kenya .We torture them worse than central Africa republic did..those are only negroid to stop islamist..go for lessons from CAR..only Bantus to stop islamist Fulanis.They skin them alive and even ate them.. Fulani know they are dealing with crazy folks in cAR

ProblemChild1:
Keep making noise. That's what you're good at

Kenya is in somalia now..Colonized entire jubaland..size of Ghana

ProblemChild1:
Is that the reason why alshabaab seized your one and only shambolic shithole Nairobi

They can only seize a tiny 10 by 10 feet meters for few minutes before Kenyans respond.. before they meet Allah..we have been Somali neighbors forever..we have Kenya Somalis..they know better . Somalis in Kenya are skinny peace of shiet..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=517MZlDgkxo Last week pokot put 8 Kenya well armed police to bed.Those kids don't miss a shot. Kenya police and army as brave n trained know they don't mess with pokots....yet they were not even the most bad arse..how can be cowardly...fix it

obaaderemi:
Is that why alshabab carries out frequent deadly attacks on your number one city?

If it was in west Africa they would run the country...in Kenya they carry one terror attack every 5yrs.and they are not bad arse...my people pokots will get Somalis peeing on themselves..tkose are ultimate bad arse

obaaderemi:
Idiot, Kenya was colonized, settled and enslaved by Arabs since 7th century. Your Swahili is a bastardization of Arabic mixed with local languages. In fact, your second City Mombasa was a creation of the Arabs. Nairobi founded by British. And Indians took care of the rest up to today. Weak ass little Indians.

Bantus are your cowardly cousins emigrated from Cameroon and East Nigeria with cowardice

obaaderemi:
They need to find a homegrown solution to their problem. Russia, like France, can not help them.

Like Nigeria allow Hausa n Fulani to run the army and leadership