₦airaland Forum

Africa countries led by South Africa should raise the 80b dollars required to get the grand inga dam ...it would be world largest power station...and can provide base load for southern, central and east Africa countries

samorobo:
We’ve seen it all,try another angle. Nothing in Kenya will make any Nigeria bitter. That narrative you are pushing is dead on arrival. Shut up and face reality.

Dog in the manger

Just40:
They actually have a good capacity, infact I think they come first when you talk about renewable energy.

Basically, current renewable energy tech isn't designed to be used on an industrial scale Hence why it have been a challenge for Germany and has mostly failed to make a real impact

Only geothermal can rival hydro in renewable energy ability to be used as base load though it's still very expensive....hydro power investment should be top priority... getting grand inga dam in Congo would fix many countries problems in Africa

samorobo:
Nairobi is not a great city,stop kidding yourself. There is nothing in Nairobi that can’t be seen in Atleast 90% of African cities. This is just a bitter fact,trying to verbally exalt your city doesn’t make what I have said any less true.

There go another west African bitter soul... Nairobi is not comparable to any west African city... leave alone Nigeria with it's noisy generator..ask any Nigerian who has the fortune to come to Kenya.

Just40:
17 to 18 million east Africans were sold to Arabs and Indian slave traders

Kenya population was not a million hundreds years ago

Just40:
Even the printed Tie and Dye existed before the first European came to West Africa.

It was largely popularized by the Nigerians

Everything existed...only problem was mass production...that what Europeans figured out..use it to enslaved you and colonize us..yours was double whammy.Hails the queen for saving you

Just40:
As usual, uneducated.

Tie and dye, smog and Kente already existed in all the kingdoms of current Ghana before the first European set foot on the lands of West Africa.


The Brits did nothing in both Ghana and Nigeria and those are documented facts... That is why the first serious political movement against them all started in West Africa.

You were not able to mass produce clothes so when dutch showered up with clothes you sold your own mother's.The British stopped slave trade

Just40:
Before the Europeans ever set foot on west African soil... You had already been slaves to the Arabs and Indians for 500 years ...
Your Masais were so stricken by disease and farming such that they became so weak to be overpowered by kikuyu slave traders who rounded them up to sell to the Arab caravans who pass through Kikuyu lands

Again you need to take the prescribed medicine..mental illness is not a joke

vankelvin:
Yes we didn't have to but your people needed to

Not a single person of my tribe has ever been sold...if you find our DNA out there...let us know.They likely to be good althetes.We are born free...not slaves to any kingdom like Ashanti

Just40:
Kente was an Akan invention.. how will foreigner who didn't have that invention trade it?

Kikuyu women were the largest commodity of the Arab slave trade.. the trade later became beneficial to the Kikuyu such that they started becoming slave trade masters and rounding up other communities to trade as slaves.

all your Bantus tribes with uncentralized systems were so week

The start of the usual madness...take your meds...you were getting better

vankelvin:
Very hostile my foot
Very hostile yet Indians and Arabs were capturing your people for slavely

What number and where are they now

gallivant:
I can safely say Obama was the first African president because his forefathers are cut from a different cloth.

Exactly.they never took Hausa because they are like Kenyan..have dignity

vankelvin:
Let me clear your ignorance
Kente is a woven cloth not a printed cloth. Our forefathers were weaving Kente long before the first white man set foot on our shores

Irrelevant..you didn't have to sell people

vankelvin:
But Ashanti's are still relevant and powerful than any tribe in kenya

Says who orbit...

obaaderemi:
The Arabs came first. Don't they teach history in Kenya?

They stayed in coast...never the hinterland...they Arabs came in 10th century... settled and intermarried with Bantus along the coast.Kenya hinterland was protected by the feared Maasai whose reputation spread worldwide

vankelvin:
Oozing ignorance as always
Since when did Europeans start producing Kente?

Since they discovered you like Indonesian badly made prints....you were willing to trade gold and slaves for it...Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish and French did a proper damage on you.Thank the Britons for saving you.Hail the Queen and Kings of England .They save Ghana and Nigeria.

vankelvin:
The Ashanti's are still regarded as one of the powerful Kingdoms in Africa. They had their own governing systems long before the white man set foot on their land.

They had their own centralized systems, their own technologies etc.
But on the other hand your forefathers at the time were jumping from tree to tree, had no cloths nor leaders so we can safely say the Brits helped your people not West Africans.

Then what happened...why are not advanced now.Ashanti are just slaves... enslaved to their own...then later sold on industrial scale to be American slaves

gallivant:
I say you hurt his feelings or he doesn't know the Arabs didn't make it past the coast.

Maasai encircled them 40 kilometers in Mombasa...the first European to enter Kenya did so in 1880s..by then Ghana had been a colony for 300yrs.These are ultimate slaves.Kenya fought British and within 50yrs armed struggle again.Without rinderpest and Maasai civil war... European couldn't have come..leave alone cowards like Arabs

Just40:
none of their tribes had any centralized system that engendered development

Replace development with trading their subjects for a piece of Kente.Our tribes were too warlike to be enslaved.Infact like Hausa those taken were abandoned or killed.Your Ashanti are perfect slaves..mules

obaaderemi:
Don't mind the half baked graduate from Nairobi University.

There is no tribe by that name in Kenya.There is tribe similar to that in Tanzania.Arab traders went to Kenya mostly for ivory.I don't know of any slaves trading that passed Kenya. Mostly slaves were sold by kingdoms like Buganda,Congo, Ashanti, and Nigeria.Kenya tribes were too hostile to trade in slaves.

Just40:
You're really dumb ... I suggest you read wide.... Kikuyu women were the most traded commodity to the Arab slave trade which is regarded as the worse or all.
It went on for almost 700 or so years and the numbers of sold slave are staggering.

Anyway, this was not the topic of discussion

You're ignorant

Just40:
yet Kikuyu women became the hottest commodity of the Arab slave trade.

Kikuyus never traded with Arabs.Stick to what you know.There are only two tribes that worked with Arabs mostly as their porters...Arab slave traders avoided kenya

obaaderemi:
Whatever we built up till now, we built ourselves. Not like Nairobi founded by the British and Mombasa founded by Arabs.

Whatever you built are not cities but slums like Ibandan.Nairobi and Mombasa were built by Kenyans...and continue to built by us.

vankelvin:
Are you still talking about slave trade?
Your people were slaves to Indians and other Arab countries, I hope you know that by now

It's better being slaves to advance countries in the West than being slaves to countries in the East

No two countries sold their people like Ghana and Nigeria.You sold them for piece of clothes.Most slaves sold in East Africa were captured by Arabs slave traders in Congo... another major slave trader.Very few slaves ever passed Kenya as our tribe's led by Maasai were pretty hostile

obaaderemi:
The Kenyans never built a town of their own before the British and Arabs came. Mombasa, Nairobi... all were founded by outsiders. No functioning civilization. So you can understand why they're very comfortable with mental slavery.

At what point did you lose that ability to build great cities and started building slumpolis.Nairobi is 100 yrs and is better than any of your cities

Fourpockets:
Wow bro, I've been a silent reader of this thread but this is honestly pathetic.
I'm not Igbo, but saying English is better is just false.
Language isn't supposed to be better than another Language, it's main purpose is for communication

English is a global language..Igbo is regional language.. accept facts..they are stubborn.English language has developed into rich language it is.

GeneralDae:
Exactly what they took for free. Stuff like Palm Oil, Palm Kernel, Groundnut, Cocoa.

After they left...you seem to have forgotten how to tend to them? or maybe British were paying good money for them and farmers were happy

Just40:
Nigerians themselves built their rail with their own resources.... Brits didn't spend a penny

When and which railway

GeneralDae:
But British hardly built any infrastructure for us apart from strategic infrastructures they used to siphon resources and this is not a lie. Maybe they did in Kenya but not here.

Which resource did they siphon... Nigeria mostly traded in palm oil

Just40:
Naa they found properly functioning governing systems and legal processes that compel them to actually modify what they had ....
They found a politically active populace hence why they couldn't lord themselves here.

In lazy uneducated places like Kenya, it was easy for them to just subjugate you guys hence why you are thankful to them for everything because them brought a bit of advancement to the savagery of you guys.

No the British found bunch of idiots trading their own people for dutch print clothes..they had to beat the shiet of you to stop the slave trading.The dutch print is now what you proudly wear as your culture.. Indonesian dress

Just40:
if your society was backward like we all have come to know, it doesn't mean every society on the continent was backward..

Here the Brits came to meet well functioning systems far more advance than what they were practicing.

Yeah they found a golden stool that you were willing to pay 75 b dollars in pure gold than forge another one . Very advanced thinking in gold coast

GeneralDae:
Virtually over 98% of what is in Nigeria (roads, rails, brudges, universities, etc) were built after the British left.

1960.. Nigeria GDP per Capita was 93 USD..now it's 2000..about 20 times...but British was 1300...risen to 47,000..so British have gotten 50 times teacher post colonialism.Colonialism was mostly a drain on British people and was unpopular as British taxpayers funded colonies.Lets us not get into lies that British took our money...they mostly brought their money to invest in our infrastructure..we can't finance and build a railway now