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Kenya supreme deliver their judgement..look like unanimous 7-0 to uphold the election of William Ruto |
Shma2022:Yes Chebukati of course stood tall.Weta and Bukusu crew if Ruto win is confirmed will be powerful |
Fred Ngatia arguably Kenya best advocate now onto the floor representing Ruto.He is comparing the petition to one in Ghana..asking the court to consider substantive truth to settle the issue of finality and sustain stability.Raila and his father 60yrs quest to win Kenya presidency we can say is over.Epic failure.Ruto hustler revolution is three more days..from one least bloodiest revolution..the Kenyatta's and other dynasties will face the music shortly |
kikuyu1:if they can get over Somali irredentism they would thrive in Kenya..Somalis are very honest and brave people...true Muslim.. maybe just too brave..but when you consider what Somalis have done the last month to stop Uhuru attempted coup..it akin to heroism of Gen Mohammed in 1982...when he stormed out of long military strategy meeting..went to confront Raila coup plotters and killed many of them...there after he rose to be chief of staff despite limited education |
Interesting. I thought they had fixed their macro-economic issues. GeneralDae2: |
You still smarting from all the hidding I used to give you. We shall be back soon. Ruto just need 1-2yrs to fix the mess the drunkard fool and old senile maggot Raila has put us throught the last five years - and we are back soaring. For now our country has dropped the ball. These 4 commissioners and Raila have made us the world laughing stock. How did we sink to this level will need serious international inquiry obaaderemi: |
Kenya Election -In the most hilarious and absurd mathematics - the four bribed and kidnapped commissioners - have today held press conference saying they differed with Chairman because 0.01% of 14m is 142,000 thousands votes. It's not even 14,200. It's 1420 - and is out of excel round off. And Raila held press conference that appears to build their entire case on that - it's gone from BAD TO TERRIBLE. AZIMIO LA UJINGA
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I still believe Azimio did massive rigging - the gap should have been bigger. kikuyu2: |
So I was wrong. Look like ANC is going down faster than I imagine. jl115: |
Nope. I got it right that Ruto would win but I missed how tight it was going to be. That was Charles Hornsby who has truly outstanding knowledge of kenya politics. I overestimated Ruto gains in Kakamega, Matusa and Coast...these people after voting for Raila for donkey years though they'd give him a final push. They failed again! What miscalculation. I definitely got - mt kenya/RV and some places absolutely right. Anyway I will do postmorteum and post here - but so far I lost to Charles Hornsby http://www.charleshornsby.com/kenya-blog kikuyu1:
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Something you will never get in TZ dictatorship - Citizen celebrating that their vote counts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y4wdqrdybQ |
Kisumu...celebration are all over...Kibra are silent..Kisumu didnt last 20minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpIxsZDv4xc Kazikazi: |
Crazy celebration all the way to Uganda. Kenyans have yet again made huge step. Defeating their dynasties. A first in africa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpIxsZDv4xc |
Kenya - Celebration in Nairobi, Central and Rift valley - my own small market town is crazy, The poor people have won against the system. The Hustler Revolution is complete. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvOsvb3Ylk |
They pulled all the drama. We still have few weeks - including a supreme court drama - but as long as Ruto has one leg inside - he will put the body inside. The problem the president Kenyatta and all dynasties know Ruto will LIQUDIATE THEM - they are scared and dangerous. They pulled last minute drama. The two IEBC commissioners and CEO are in hospitals. 4 others were bribed to say the process was OPAQUE - after all those layers of verification. They have arrested many IEBC officials on flimsy ground - they dragged the process hoping to 7 day limit will precipitate a crisis. The Chicken Seller has won...Ruto comes from very humble background in Eldoret...but through sheer grit, hardwork, bravery and intelligence...he has risen to the very top only aged 55yrs. They all merged to stop him - know he is such a big threat - and they have all failed. All their systems, gov machinery, mainstream media, billions, name it...the kid who was selling chicken in roadside has beaten them. Ruto is a special talent - incredibly gifted. Softwareguy21: |
Yeah - they have rejected the result before they are announced - usual lame excuses.Their Chief Agent -Saitabao Ole Kanchory: We have intelligence reports that their system was penetrated and hacked and that some of the IEBC officials actually committed electoral offences and some of them ought to have been arrested if they were not arrested
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Kenya Election - Pushed for one more hour. Raila Odinga seem to have accepted to concede defeat. |
It's no biggie. Kenya is presidential system. How would you hand over winner certificate of governor for example? We do six elections. Returning officer hand over certificate - then later they are legally gazetted as winner. It's just a nice little paper to know you've own - otherwise previously during one party system - you may find the winner becoming the loser. Just40: |
Kenya election - Some reports indicate Raila Odinga has made that call, he has conceded for the very first time. This would be a miracle. |
The announcement will be done at 3pm kenyan time - that another one and half hour - I am sure the gov forces are beefing security in Nairobi slums and Kisumu - otherwise Ruto is preparing to move to Karen with his wife.
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Acceptance is best way to heal. I have also lost with Raila. He is VERY USELESS politician. He cannot win unless he was only competitor. Shma2022: |
There many type of certificate. Every winner in Kenya get a certificate showing they have won. Or how else would they show they have won. Ruto and his running mate will get handed certificate declaring they are President-Elect. Raila will have 7 days to file a petition in supreme court - which must be heard and determined in 14-28 days. If he doesnt Ruto will be sworn in 2nd Tuesday from now. Just40:
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It's done. Ruto preparing to head to Bomas of Kenya to be handed the Certificate as the President-Elect.
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Classic prevarication. As long as there are human involved - they will be attempt to rig or game the system. jl115: |
So there are no court petition filled alleging rigging? jl115: |
Shma, my boy, it's over. Ruto is now driving from Karen to Bomas. The Chief agents just went to sign the final form - 34C - and I didnt see Raila agents. Chebukati will announce him shortly! After defeating everything! Handshake brothers must be shitting in their pants, same as kina kibichos, Matiangis, Atwolis, Manyoras, Mutahis, anti-Ruto bloggers, and the entire anti-Ruto crew. After four years of humiliation and 10K spears directed at him, the man of Kamagut can breathe a sigh of relief as he takes the reigns of Presidency from a drunkard fool and a senile old boy.
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Of course - the idea being if it's rigged or a tyranny - lot more people will be incensed and will come out with guns and overpower gov. Trump failed because majority didnt feel - that election had been rigged enough to warrant a response. That is normally the difference btw a democracy and a dictatorship In Kenya rigging happen every election - and so does it South Africa - but if it brazen - I expect Citizen to RISE UP and FIGHT. If number of people incensed as such that they overpower gov (like in my scenario) then gov is overthrows in a revolution Like happens in many countries..for example in middle east...where gun ownership is high...during spring revolution...citizen shoot and overthrow govs. jl115: |
Dont just argue for it's sake. US's 2nd amendment given citizen rights to rebel and fight an illegitimate gov. "The importance of the second amendment is the ability to rebel against a tyrannical government. It also gives citizens the right to protect themselves, without restrictions from the government. The Second Amendment also allows us to protect ourselves from foreign and domestic attacks, if the government won't." jl115: |
Election Comission released the results within 24hrs - it just didnt release the final tally. Raila folks despite knowing they have lost - are priming their people for huge disappointment by claiming they are winning - using magic - then later they start wailing in shock - as usual blaming rigging and computers. All independent tallies show Ruto has won, met 50% plus 1 threshold required and 25% of more than half countries(24) counties, and is president-elect. Very little violence mostly in some slums of Nairobi where Luos are many and in parts of Kisumu. Such violence will fizzle out in hours. They simply dont have the stomach for violence like kalenjin. We are gearing for final announcement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGAf2OpnOb4 obaaderemi: |
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We've always had problems here with Kenyans messing up figures. So we can relate.