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This has never happen before. Some idiot in kenya gov decide to have fuel subsidy - that has messed up Nigeria.

GeneralDae:
rvp lies a lot, sometimes he doesn't even know what he's saying.

Kilimani Nairobi - Joburg seeing dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6NWEG5S5NQ

400,000 deaths? or meant 4,000 road accident deaths.

Jamestown123:
Over 400,000 deaths recorded in a single year in kenya. It's a serious case. But talking about obtaining a driver's license and corruption, to be truthful it's happening in every african country. Let's just face it. We just need to do more and also speak out.

Quote that Bloomerg article mad cow.

Just40:
How is the Kenyan IMF program going ?

Even with it, you guys are still having a huge debt crisis.
Kenya debt servicing is already taking 66% of revenue, according to Bloomberg.
Unfortunately for Kenya, it is not like Ghana that is benefiting from windfall from so many other places or that invested it loans into profitable ventures.

Pure madness - especially base rate is 17.5 percent now - that mean commercial interest is 30 plus now.

And dont be a fool like west africa - who get monthly interest rates -

Interest rate is annual - and therefore if you bank quoted 10 - just know you're paying 120 percent.


Ghana Bank Lending Rate - February 2022 Data - Trading ...https://tradingeconomics.com › Ghana
Bank Lending Rate in Ghana averaged 29.59 percent from 2005 until 2018, ... is the average rate of interest charged on short term loans by commercial banks ..

Just40:
Because potholes roads is a thing in your country, you think it's normal everywhere.

One, we don't have a debt crisis.
Two, we are enjoying a huge windfall period and all our debt investments have already began paying off.

We are not Kenya that took debt to waste on Frivolous things hence why your country is struggling badly from one debt relief to another.

Our interest rate hovers at 10 to 17% unlike in Kenya where it is 17 to 25%

According to Reuters - you're teetering on collapse
https://www.reuters.com/article/ghana-rates/update-4-ghana-imposes-record-interest-rate-hike-to-slow-inflation-idINL5N2VO30Q?edition-redirect=in


Meanwhile, Ghana’s cedi has weakened by about 20% against the dollar this year, making it the second-weakest currency after the Russian rouble in a list of some 20 emerging market units tracked by Reuters.

Kenya roads are heaven compared to your potholed moon like surface roads.
Now tells me how you will maneuver the debt crisis - when already 2/3 of budget is going to paying debt.
Cedis is collapsing.
Interest rate is approaching 20 percent.
Sound like you can teach Zim and such countries how to do this.

Just40:
See how dirty your roads are, and the chaos even in your city center


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papUXpLXf8I

There's plenty of room for maneuver in the Ghanaian space... So many, such that we have to debate which one to take.

Unlike your country that is locked up with only one way to go.

Ghana the mini zoo hikes base interest rate from 14.5 to 17% as the cedis continues to collapse.

Base/key interest= is what gov borrows at. You can expect commercial interest to be greater than 30 percent - as it must factor inflation, risks and profit margin.

Seem they are heading for a crush!

Ghana pays 2/3 of budget revenues for interest expenses. Second largest among emerging and frontier markets after Sri Lanka! Very little room for maneuver..

Nairobi South C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK6FoXaKreo

Nairobi the Africa Capital Center - Joburg seeing dust earlier than thought.

Skycrapper roads and building.

Your tax collection outside mineral is 5B or about - about twice Rwanda - with oil and gold - it goes to about 10B. Then your borrow annually about 7B to make budget of 17B. It's hard to have adult conservation with a mad cow like you.

Just40:
are they school children to be wearing uniforms?

People who have their own businesses and their petty shops or kiosks are empowered with business loans to expand by acquiring more goods or acquiring bigger shops to expand their trade.

This is how come, market women have become very rich to even enter into real estate and taking their kids to ivy league schools. It is also part of the reason why our poverty levels are low and our slum dwellers are very low.

I want to see this kind of progress in Kenya. So that Kenyan girls don't keep dreaming of marry Europeans before they can get out of poverty.

We have a good 16 billion dollars tax collection excluding minerals whose income goes into their own funds. Despite the fact that you guys almost have twice our population, your tax collection is below ours.

The same informal sector can be formalized. Formalized mean if it's hawking - they need to be registered - it's need to be orderly - probably organized into cooperatives - wearing uniforms - it need to respect the right of business owners - you dont just come and set up infront of someone else shop - who is paying taxes. They can also agree with shop owners on time to operate - maybe from 5 pm - when they close shop - they come and set up in the streets.

This what happens in most developed cities - street vendors are allowed to operate in late hours and weekends - then they fold their stuff and disappear in the morning- and then 8-5pm - you let formal business generate taxes.

Otherwise you gotta Ghana like situation with formal sector totally non-existent - and cities look like cattle kraals. Your have almost zero tax collection outside minerals like Nigeria - because formal sector pay taxes - the street hawkers cannot.

Just40:
Yes they can

People create sustainable businesses out of it and build house and own cars out of it.

That's is good wealth.

Maybe l, when your govt starts helping Kenyans instead of Indian monopolies, you will finally seen Kenyans rising out of extreme poverty and finding homes instead of being homeless or having dreams to marry Europeans.

Yes the Maasai do once in while come to Nairobi during drought season but Nairobi expressway a year and half later is 98 percent complete
https://thebftonline.com/2020/07/03/masloc-disbursed-ghc92m-micro-loans-in-2019/

vankelvin:
Your own cup of tea

Informal sector can never create any real wealth - it's create floating middle class - that is one COVID away poverty.
This is what is happening in Kenya and many countries now.
Real wealth will start when we transition the economy from informal to formal - so incomes are more predictable.
Why would owned operated transporter belong to labour union - who is their employer? Will they ask the commuters to raise their money
or you mean the transport conductors/drivers?
As always you made tortured arguments like a mad man.

Just40:
if that was happening... Your poverty levels wouldn't have increased..

Stop making useless excuses and actually solve your problems.
One thing must affect another positively.

Your poverty levels are increasing because more and more Kenyans are being driven out of competition by monopolies from India who employ very little and pay them peanuts

Here, all transport operators are part of labour unions who advocate for their well being and make massive money.

Unlike the mess that your matatus create in Kenya, here trotros are more organized.

I checked Masloc loan - it's a joke - less than 10M dollars annually - big joke

Just40:
You should use that to help Kenyans so they can get out of poverty like Ghanaians have gotten out, by expanding their businesses with MASLOC loans.

Help your informal workers formalize their trade and get out of poverty like how Ghana has helped it traders ..

Yes part of kampala are very decent - yes Ghana is extreme. It's like Ibandan city

popizaino:
I think have watched some videos of kampala and I can tell you there is a bit of decency in some areas unlike Accra everywhere is chaotic with street hawkers, containers, kiosks, food vendors except in an area which is like 2% of the whole city. It just so messy here.

Tortured arguments. In kenya informal business are slowly giving way to formal.

Informal retail and wholesales -Kiosks - giving way to supermarkets and malls. Now Kenya is second to South Africa in formalizing retail sector - Naivas just opened their 85th supermarket.

Informal transport - Matatus or Trotros in kenya have been formaized into Saccos. Every Matatu in kenya must belong to SACCO, driver and conductor must wear their badge, and their uniform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW7HkMuTkCY

We now have problem with Okadas/boda-bodas/motorcyles - that we need to tackle.

Ultimately progressive countries should find a balance - Rwanda has gone to extreme of almost making informal business illegal - Ghana is total chaos with every little space invaded by street vendors.

Just40:
You see how informal your country is with all the hawking and kiosk all around?

While the informal economy can provide a temporary, imperfect social safety net, benefits of formalization are clear advantages for informal businesses to move out of operating in the shadow economy. https://blogs.worldbank.org/psd/out-shadows-unlocking-economic-potential-informal-businesses/?cid=SHR_BlogSiteTweetable_EN_EXT via @worldbank

Just40:
That will make Kampala more developed than Nairobi

Accra remind of Kampala. Seems everywhere is just informal business in-front of formal business. Must be tough being a formal business with kiosks, street vendors and hawkers - paying zero rent and blocking your business - and outcompeting you.

popizaino:
I come in peace



Developed Accra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDwsfb7di34





Underdeveloped Portharcourt



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEjRpGMJ8JY

Which part of US or UK - You guys have your priorities upside down. These things people buy a newspaper advert - obituary and they get done with it. Muslim dont even have time for that.

Just40:
See this fool again

Every part of the world I've been, posters are made to announce funerals.

Including the US and UK.

Funerals, baby naming ceremony and marriages play a very big part in Ghanaian culture just like how baby shower plays a big part in American culture.

Unexposed fool

The crazy part of this video is where they put billboard to announce funerals crazy Ghanians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDe3fczLydM

Ghanians are crazy salty and small minded minnows best exemplified by those who are in this forum.

vankelvin:
I do watch African Tigress videos a lot but have never seen this kind of hate comments in any of her comment section.

But one funny thing is eventhough they are saying all the bad things about Accra, Ghana and Ghanaians same people are calling Miss Trudy, Wode Maya and other Ghanaian YouTubers FAKE, accusing them of only showing the good parts of Accra and Ghana just to make the World see Accra and Ghana as a beautiful place bla bla bla like Ghana is the only country with ugly side Or what?

You have built 300kms of electrified rail
Ethiopia have built 750km electrified rail from Adis Ababa to Djibouti port.
Obviously in terms of standard - both Adis & Dar rail are class 2.
MSA - Naivasha is class A - and already does way better than Ethiopia in revenues and cargo.
Kenya one is approaching 200M dollars of revenue - while Ethiopia is at 50m.

Kazikazi:
Do u know a distance from Dar to mwanza?
from Dar to Kindu,DRC via Gitega,Burundi?
Dar to karema port via Mpanda?
Dar port to Kigali?

Don't try us by comparing United republic with Djibouti

The Nairobi Expressway nears completion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r537VwdW1vE

Adis-Djiboutti is longer than your 300km line

Kazikazi:
Remembering Magufuli........
Africa's longest,speedy,electrified SGR

Only in the zoo
https://twitter.com/BBCAfrica/status/1501641276910940163

Kenyan tycoon acquires Tanzania tea firms for 133bn/-https://www.ippmedia.com › business › kenyan-tycoon-...
20 Mar 2018 — Through D L Koisagat, Langat now owns 99 per cent stake in Mufindi Tea and Coffee Limited, Rift Valley Tea Solutions Limited and Kibena Tea ...

Kazikazi:
Mufindi, tanzania

LDC is based on GDP per capita - and West & Central Africa mineral rich countries have "inflated" GDP but poverty is different story. It's Equatorial Guinea type of mess.

vankelvin:
Do you now agree that East Africa can't compare with West Africa when it comes to development?

Wheat...
Post estimates South Africa could import around 1.6 million tons of wheat and wheaten products in the 2020/21 MY, down 400,000 tons from the 2million.

Rice - I think you produce almost zero and have to import it.

jl115:
In short we are self sufficient in grain

In short you're self-sufficient in maize but not wheat.

jl115:
@Just40

The International Grains Council (IGC) puts South Africa’s total grains production in 2020-21 at 18.6 million tonnes, up from 18 million the previous year. The total includes 2.1 million tonnes of wheat, compared with 1.5 million in 2019-20. The country’s corn crop in 2020-21 is put at 15.8 million tonnes, down from 16 million the year before.

2.1 + 15.8 = 17.9 million tons...from just 2 grain types

The Zoogerian is indeed confused. Here is some data to help you understand how a country that is Semi Arid and Arid (89 percent) is able to do better than Nigeria that is almost entirely arable.

Nigeria ranks way below South Africa, Ghana, and Kenya on Global Food Security index 2021. According to the report, South Africa (with 63.1 points) scored better than Ghana (60.0 points). Kenya (47.6), Uganda (41.5), and Nigeria (32.5)

obaaderemi:
Kenya is fixed in a rut. Starvation every year without any meaningful explanation.

This is the 21st century, yet they are still at the mercy of the weather. All you have to do is dig a little below the surface and you will see the problem is just a fallout of massive corruption.

A British ambassador to Kenya said some years ago that Kenyan politicians eat like gluttons and vomit all over the shoes of donors. It has gotten worse since then. A pointer to that is the incessant starvation.
Time was when we used to post the pictures here but we've come to realize that for the sake of brotherhood such horrifying images should be left out of the equation, no matter what the little Indians say or do.

But it's just confusing how such a thing can not be sorted out, yet the country keeps growing flowers for export to Europe on the little arable land it has. I don't understand how Africans could find it so easy to keep the yoke of neocolonialism around their necks perpetually like Kenyans.

How else do you explain the hopeless situation in many African countries where reforms and any progressive movement forward have basically stalled almost forever. Classic case in point - Nigeria electricity problem...you can almost guess the situation will continue for the next 30yrs. The same with endless fuel shortages. I can understand the intricacies of fighting corruption and crime amidst deep poverty where opportunity for honest reward is far and wide. But I cannot understand how years after years some easy to fix problems cannot be fixed?

We must never accept the status quo in Africa - because it's terrible - it's horrible. Countries must continuously progressively fix their issues. If their political governance system is unable to fix almost anything then it's almost certain there will be war and coups.

kikuyu1:
Wonderful post,mzee! You've seen into the heart of the matter: like you I realised the socio culture, or rather it's extremely unfortunate historical roots are responsible for today's permanent dysfunctions in WA.