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Yes the Maasai do once in while come to Nairobi during drought season but Nairobi expressway a year and half later is 98 percent complete
https://thebftonline.com/2020/07/03/masloc-disbursed-ghc92m-micro-loans-in-2019/

vankelvin:
Your own cup of tea

Informal sector can never create any real wealth - it's create floating middle class - that is one COVID away poverty.
This is what is happening in Kenya and many countries now.
Real wealth will start when we transition the economy from informal to formal - so incomes are more predictable.
Why would owned operated transporter belong to labour union - who is their employer? Will they ask the commuters to raise their money
or you mean the transport conductors/drivers?
As always you made tortured arguments like a mad man.

Just40:
if that was happening... Your poverty levels wouldn't have increased..

Stop making useless excuses and actually solve your problems.
One thing must affect another positively.

Your poverty levels are increasing because more and more Kenyans are being driven out of competition by monopolies from India who employ very little and pay them peanuts

Here, all transport operators are part of labour unions who advocate for their well being and make massive money.

Unlike the mess that your matatus create in Kenya, here trotros are more organized.

I checked Masloc loan - it's a joke - less than 10M dollars annually - big joke

Just40:
You should use that to help Kenyans so they can get out of poverty like Ghanaians have gotten out, by expanding their businesses with MASLOC loans.

Help your informal workers formalize their trade and get out of poverty like how Ghana has helped it traders ..

Yes part of kampala are very decent - yes Ghana is extreme. It's like Ibandan city

popizaino:
I think have watched some videos of kampala and I can tell you there is a bit of decency in some areas unlike Accra everywhere is chaotic with street hawkers, containers, kiosks, food vendors except in an area which is like 2% of the whole city. It just so messy here.

Tortured arguments. In kenya informal business are slowly giving way to formal.

Informal retail and wholesales -Kiosks - giving way to supermarkets and malls. Now Kenya is second to South Africa in formalizing retail sector - Naivas just opened their 85th supermarket.

Informal transport - Matatus or Trotros in kenya have been formaized into Saccos. Every Matatu in kenya must belong to SACCO, driver and conductor must wear their badge, and their uniform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW7HkMuTkCY

We now have problem with Okadas/boda-bodas/motorcyles - that we need to tackle.

Ultimately progressive countries should find a balance - Rwanda has gone to extreme of almost making informal business illegal - Ghana is total chaos with every little space invaded by street vendors.

Just40:
You see how informal your country is with all the hawking and kiosk all around?

While the informal economy can provide a temporary, imperfect social safety net, benefits of formalization are clear advantages for informal businesses to move out of operating in the shadow economy. https://blogs.worldbank.org/psd/out-shadows-unlocking-economic-potential-informal-businesses/?cid=SHR_BlogSiteTweetable_EN_EXT via @worldbank

Just40:
That will make Kampala more developed than Nairobi

Accra remind of Kampala. Seems everywhere is just informal business in-front of formal business. Must be tough being a formal business with kiosks, street vendors and hawkers - paying zero rent and blocking your business - and outcompeting you.

popizaino:
I come in peace



Developed Accra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDwsfb7di34





Underdeveloped Portharcourt



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEjRpGMJ8JY

Which part of US or UK - You guys have your priorities upside down. These things people buy a newspaper advert - obituary and they get done with it. Muslim dont even have time for that.

Just40:
See this fool again

Every part of the world I've been, posters are made to announce funerals.

Including the US and UK.

Funerals, baby naming ceremony and marriages play a very big part in Ghanaian culture just like how baby shower plays a big part in American culture.

Unexposed fool

The crazy part of this video is where they put billboard to announce funerals crazy Ghanians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDe3fczLydM

Ghanians are crazy salty and small minded minnows best exemplified by those who are in this forum.

vankelvin:
I do watch African Tigress videos a lot but have never seen this kind of hate comments in any of her comment section.

But one funny thing is eventhough they are saying all the bad things about Accra, Ghana and Ghanaians same people are calling Miss Trudy, Wode Maya and other Ghanaian YouTubers FAKE, accusing them of only showing the good parts of Accra and Ghana just to make the World see Accra and Ghana as a beautiful place bla bla bla like Ghana is the only country with ugly side Or what?

You have built 300kms of electrified rail
Ethiopia have built 750km electrified rail from Adis Ababa to Djibouti port.
Obviously in terms of standard - both Adis & Dar rail are class 2.
MSA - Naivasha is class A - and already does way better than Ethiopia in revenues and cargo.
Kenya one is approaching 200M dollars of revenue - while Ethiopia is at 50m.

Kazikazi:
Do u know a distance from Dar to mwanza?
from Dar to Kindu,DRC via Gitega,Burundi?
Dar to karema port via Mpanda?
Dar port to Kigali?

Don't try us by comparing United republic with Djibouti

The Nairobi Expressway nears completion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r537VwdW1vE

Adis-Djiboutti is longer than your 300km line

Kazikazi:
Remembering Magufuli........
Africa's longest,speedy,electrified SGR

Only in the zoo
https://twitter.com/BBCAfrica/status/1501641276910940163

Kenyan tycoon acquires Tanzania tea firms for 133bn/-https://www.ippmedia.com › business › kenyan-tycoon-...
20 Mar 2018 — Through D L Koisagat, Langat now owns 99 per cent stake in Mufindi Tea and Coffee Limited, Rift Valley Tea Solutions Limited and Kibena Tea ...

Kazikazi:
Mufindi, tanzania

LDC is based on GDP per capita - and West & Central Africa mineral rich countries have "inflated" GDP but poverty is different story. It's Equatorial Guinea type of mess.

vankelvin:
Do you now agree that East Africa can't compare with West Africa when it comes to development?

Wheat...
Post estimates South Africa could import around 1.6 million tons of wheat and wheaten products in the 2020/21 MY, down 400,000 tons from the 2million.

Rice - I think you produce almost zero and have to import it.

jl115:
In short we are self sufficient in grain

In short you're self-sufficient in maize but not wheat.

jl115:
@Just40

The International Grains Council (IGC) puts South Africa’s total grains production in 2020-21 at 18.6 million tonnes, up from 18 million the previous year. The total includes 2.1 million tonnes of wheat, compared with 1.5 million in 2019-20. The country’s corn crop in 2020-21 is put at 15.8 million tonnes, down from 16 million the year before.

2.1 + 15.8 = 17.9 million tons...from just 2 grain types

The Zoogerian is indeed confused. Here is some data to help you understand how a country that is Semi Arid and Arid (89 percent) is able to do better than Nigeria that is almost entirely arable.

Nigeria ranks way below South Africa, Ghana, and Kenya on Global Food Security index 2021. According to the report, South Africa (with 63.1 points) scored better than Ghana (60.0 points). Kenya (47.6), Uganda (41.5), and Nigeria (32.5)

obaaderemi:
Kenya is fixed in a rut. Starvation every year without any meaningful explanation.

This is the 21st century, yet they are still at the mercy of the weather. All you have to do is dig a little below the surface and you will see the problem is just a fallout of massive corruption.

A British ambassador to Kenya said some years ago that Kenyan politicians eat like gluttons and vomit all over the shoes of donors. It has gotten worse since then. A pointer to that is the incessant starvation.
Time was when we used to post the pictures here but we've come to realize that for the sake of brotherhood such horrifying images should be left out of the equation, no matter what the little Indians say or do.

But it's just confusing how such a thing can not be sorted out, yet the country keeps growing flowers for export to Europe on the little arable land it has. I don't understand how Africans could find it so easy to keep the yoke of neocolonialism around their necks perpetually like Kenyans.

How else do you explain the hopeless situation in many African countries where reforms and any progressive movement forward have basically stalled almost forever. Classic case in point - Nigeria electricity problem...you can almost guess the situation will continue for the next 30yrs. The same with endless fuel shortages. I can understand the intricacies of fighting corruption and crime amidst deep poverty where opportunity for honest reward is far and wide. But I cannot understand how years after years some easy to fix problems cannot be fixed?

We must never accept the status quo in Africa - because it's terrible - it's horrible. Countries must continuously progressively fix their issues. If their political governance system is unable to fix almost anything then it's almost certain there will be war and coups.

kikuyu1:
Wonderful post,mzee! You've seen into the heart of the matter: like you I realised the socio culture, or rather it's extremely unfortunate historical roots are responsible for today's permanent dysfunctions in WA.

omolayomi06:
guy you are right, if you have a great destiny coming to the universe, then you mistakenly find yourself in Nigeria, Nigeria will rewrite that destiny for you, take for instance you get admission into Nigeria university or polytechnic and you expect to spend 4 to 5 years Asu and nasu strike will turn it to 8 years, everything will now tire you. what a useless country and useless leader will have. ffk now comparing Kenya to Nigeria, hiss

my main problem with Nigeria is why the story never change..in 90s in Kenya we had some of those problems..but we solve them..in Kenya you can almost feel or know things keep getting better annually except for some stuff like police corruption...society is in constantly changing and demanding change..I don't understand how basic stuff like electricity cannot be fixed.Kenya we are almost on constant change trajectory for the better...many things now as good if not better than developed world.End of day the society has to discover it's reformation.West Africa has essentially given up on their countries and all they look forward is the day they emigrate.kenya abroad look forward for their day they get home because the story is changing for the better...Kenya keep getting better two immediate US ambassadors refused to back home..many expat never want to leave..many tourist want to come back...ASk any Kenya and foreigner where they rather be.. definitely Kenya... great weather..great people.. semblance of first world order.. incredibly beautiful country.Most important kenyan are hardwoking, honest and positive people.Nigeria can be the same if they start doing painful reform... unlike Kenya they have oil money to finance reform...if power is problem fix it..in Kenya in early 2000s we invited Canadian to run our power.. Manitoba power fixed our power..in 2yrs..they left

Cedis and Kwacha have bad history of hyperinflation that is hard to sort...people always remain with bad memories..and any sign of trouble...they dump it for dollar. Hyperinflation is hard to get out of.

theenchanter:
it's possible, that's Ghana. Don't forget the cedis redomination.

The last central bank program I went for (this previous Wednesday) they chipped in the falling rate of ghc against the dollar and appreciated cbn for ruling redomination out.

I even heard they, in their words "dollarised" the Ghanaian economy. Meaning, they do transact in dollar in corporate business, all in the guise to attract foreign investors but it's really killing the local currency.

Just30:
Hence why you've been salty since

When will your country also be able to add 4000 plus km to it 16,000km of paved roads to get to 20,000?



or that is a question for the gods?

Don't you have mental hospital in Ghana or do they give them internet access..in Kenya we have mathare mental hospital where people like you are treated

Spending 100M on a single interchange is grand looting. This road has 10 interchanges.

Just40:
only a fool would spend a billion dollars on this....

This is what looting looks like

samorobo:
Get lost because of what exactly? This coma road.

A billion dollar comma delivered in one half year...you got jokes Sammy as always
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgbe76GjSio

Uhuru found a GDP of 40B - he is retiring at 110B. That is almost trippling GDP in 10yrs.
Buhari has overseen one longest recession in the Zoo...I think is average growth rate for 8yrs is NEGATIVE
Goodluck Jonathan look like an Angel compared to Buhari.
It's been total EPIC failure.
Nigeria you should just ask Obasanjo to come back deputized by Goodluck.
That Nigeria was promising
People would listen to Obasanjo and Goodluck
You need some luck

chrisooblog:
Lifeless FC despite borrowing a lot hasn't passed 40% of GDP.

Drunk FC despite borrowing 4 times his predecessor has only chinese owned port and jalopy railway to show for it with debt constituting nearly 70% of GDP

A drunk uhuru is better than dead (lifeless) Buhari

Manze next time you come to Roysambu you'll get lost


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3TqHBu89tg

68816419:
Why always drunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHCaxglULyc

Street kids and street families exist in kenya urbans centers- those are drug junkies that we sent to juvenile prison or children homes...they are not normal kids being told to go hawking or picking cocoa beans or cleaning gold with mercury like Ghana or a whole battalion of Almajiri kids in Nigeria begging in streets then retire to their homes. Street kids or Chokora in kenya live in the streets - they are drug junkies..from urban poverty.

GeneralDae:
More like don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

Any random video of Accra will show lots of kids hawking everything from boiled eggs to yams.

Just40:
there's nothing like kids picking in cocoa farms.

There's nothing like kids in mining, and there's only one Chinese own mine in Ghana and it is up North and there are no kids there (a large skill mine).


Face you annual hunger issue and don't drag us into it, we are not the cause... Your laziness is

Putin says you should end Starvation before venturing into geopolitics

What a savage stray bullets flying everywhere

I wished you had received some half decent education to arm your with critical thinking skills.
People go hungry in the world - not because there is lack of food - but because they lack money.
This is not stone age - this modern world where you use money to buy food - you dont need to grow or hunt for food.
In kenya - there are many areas that are throwing excess food - while other areas cannot afford to buy food.
If you depend on livestock - and drought arrives - sometimes it doesnt rain for two years - then pasture and water dries.
Those people living in arid areas source of livelihood - livestock - also dries up. They cannot get money to buy food.
In Nigeria they simply arm themselves with Ak47 guns & even grenades - and go South shooting and killing farmers - in search of pasture and water.In kenya we dont allow such.

If you were a decent country - not a zoo - 100M of your people would not be extremely poor with all that oil.
Those extremely poor Nigerias are out there begging in the streets - while others are dying uncounted.
I have watched videos of thousands of Nigeria kids begging on streets.
Millions of them have left school to work or eke a living.

You see the same in Ghana - everywhere there are small kids hawking for survival or picking cocoa or working for chinese gold smugglers.

68816419:
What then stopping your government in helping out in this regard, Agriculture is key to Kenya's economy, contributing 26 per cent of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and another 27 per cent of GDP indirectly through linkages with other sectors. The sector employs more than 40 per cent of the total population and more than 70 per cent of Kenya's rural people
How possible can it be that your agriculture sectors contribute 27 per cent to your GDP , yet, closed to 4M people are starving to death, can we both agree that your GDP is faked?

Incorrigible as always
Kenya is a democratic country with freehold title
This is not Ghana where kings own land
People are free to decide what to farm - if flowers bring them money - they go for it.
Irrigation schemes are solution in some of the areas - but not everywhere.
The Sahara desertificaiton is complex thing - where you get water to irrigate huge expansive arid land?
If you had a solution take it to Nigeria - where Fulanis herdsmen are driving farmers out of their farms
The long term solution are great
But in the meantime Kenya gov will provide money to people under distress from drought.
I wish your country would do the same
We provide money to old, disabled, vulnerable, orphans - and hungry both in rural and urban areas.
Annually we are spending close to 0.5B dollars for that social safety net - more than you spend in your entire road sector it appears.

vankelvin:
Stop giving flimsy excuses over why your people keep starving even in 2022.

You use your fertile lands for growing flowers and tea when a good number of kenyans starve to death, common sense is indeed not common to common people.

Another point I get from your comment is about poverty in the Sahel areas in Kenya. So you mean your country have not heard of irrigation farming? Farming is one of the simple ways of providing jobs for your people, if they were busy doing irrigation farming they wouldn't be poor to the extent of not having money to buy food.

Nairobi expressway beautification

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxiMfsJSGEg