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rman: @ Saga,

Some are so dull they may think you are in support of them.

Please stop!

onegig: This thread just confirmed the romance section is filled with kids having mucus running down their noses.

@op
You need to tell him how his actions hurt you. He is just plaini insensitive and very childish.

No matter what the fight is a simple happy birthday is the least thing he could have said. We even wish our enemies happy birthday on their facebook pages let alone your spouse.

Well said, REAL MAN!

Ahhhhh! Awon real man re o (These are the real men o)

Shampon real man! (Champion real man!)

Yes o, her husband is just insensitive and childish. She can not possibly be wrong.

Real Manoooo!

You are faaaaar more mature than the "kids" in the Romance section.

sailormoon: What is wrong with you?

I am trying to be a Real Man this morning.

OliverPin: Even when the woman is wrong? Meanwhile, I only said mstik shouldn't push blames without knowing the full story. I didn't even answer the Question so abeg find ur own lane

The woman is what?

You have the audacity to say a woman is wrong in a relationship issue?

You need deliverance from the demons possessing you.

You need to learn that when you hear an issue between couples, for you to show you are a REAL MAN, you need to always take the woman's side.

A real man knows men are always the ones wrong. They are only right when they do what a woman wants and the woman is happy.

Saying a woman is wrong is soooooo immature.

OliverPin: LOL* you go sabi scatter marriage gan. See as you conclude without knowing the root of the matter. I salute you ma.

Shut up! Did they not teach you that a man is always to blame for anything that happens in a relationship?

What era do you think this is? You don't know it is the 21st century?

Useless fake man. You are so immature.

andromida, abeg come and give this guy, that dared to stand up against women, your expert "Real Man" training so that one more man can be converted to a debilitating mugu.

hotwax: Their match in Putin ?

You will say, Obama has met his match in Putin.

Them born Putin well for Judge Bush or Republican.

Putin threatened to join Iraqi war, Bush told him, if them born you welll, come join.

Where was Russia when the USA messed up Iraq and Afganistan?

We all know Obama and Gudluck Jonathan are contemporaries

You are a person!

Where do you get your moronic beer parlour "facts"?

remsonik: Presidency shared N22.4m to Chibok parents, escaped girls -Community



Source: http://www.punchng.com/news/presidency-shared-n22-4m-to-chibok-parents-escaped-girls-community/?

So Retardeen uses our public funds like a personal PR account?

andromida: And they will look back in years to come that the Real man was what they always aspired to be- their truest selves.

#teamhaveabrain is cool anyway as long as they are not trying to be Sagamite.

Their truest selves is to practice polygamy.

raumdeuter: In all of these I support Israel.

When Hamas decides in its charter that Israel has no right to live then you live the Israelis with no option

If Hamas wants war they should take their rockets out of civilian areas and confront the IDF frontally

You are a cretinous fvcktard!

Why don't Israel abandon all their technology too and come and fight by the sword?

Chrisbenogor: Saga how body,
Let me start by saying war is not pretty.

If there is any side of this country losing the PR war it has got to be Isreal, this is why I it is hard for me to make some sense of saying something like intentionally targeting teens on a beach. If the Isreali policy is to kill palestinian civilians and in three weeks they have only managed to kill under 1,500 people then that policy is failing. Same cannot however be said of Hamas, lets take a look at an article in hamas charter (http://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm).


'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and

kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the

rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind

me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
I think the charter speaks a lot for itself, Hamas has come out to say it is a piece of history however it cannot change it. Hamas leaders would take an oath to this document, this is policy in black and white.


Does it happen that an isreali soldier would go bersek and shoot an innocent Palestinian yes it does, does it happen that a missile mistakenly hits where it is not supposed to hit yes it does. We can catalogue all of Isreal's mistakes in all this, they should take responsibility for that. However Saga even you should agree that it is stretching the truth to say that Isreali policy on Palestine is to kill innocent citizens when the opportunity presents itself.


Now to the numbers, I concede that there is no way to look at those disproportionate numbers and not be appalled by the civilian death toll so far. Gaza is a densely populated area, urban warfare is bound to claim a lot of civilians. It is sad but it is also the truth, hamas however has not helped this fight by its practices. Hamas has shot rockets from residential areas, from schools, beside hospitals, mosques. While it is certainly wrong to bomb a shelter full of refugees to get to hamas, can we really pause and think of how despicable anyone who will store and fire rockets inside a house where his 5 month old baby lives? What else am I supposed to think except that they do it so that when Isreal returns fire, they can show videos to the world and win the battle on the only front they can which is the media. That is what the lives of their loved is worth to them. Even the UN has come out to say that Hamas not once in this conflict has compromised a combat zone by storing weapons at UN schools. SO yes unless one is totally biased there is no way you can look at this conflict and say Hamas has not been using human shields.


I know previously you have failed to take a stand on this issue, but maybe you really should. It is easy for anyone to look at the conflict and say hey the civilian death toll is too high. But really what do you think both sides should do? If you were prime minister today of Isreal what would you do? If you were the leader of Hamas what would you do? And finally if you were to broker peace between both sides what would be your approach?
Those three positions would have different approaches, but I am hard pressed for any alternative for Isreal other than pressing on with what they are doing now.

Ah! My body dey inside my Primark Couture.

You good?

Now to the points. You really don't need to tell me about Hamas, as it is generally accepted they are terrorists. My point is that Israel as a State are Terrorists too, not defensive victims as they like to parade through their strong PR. The fact Hamas is a terrorist organisation is not a good distraction from that fact.

IT IS Israel's policy to kill civilians and then PR-tune it. Something they have obviously done well for many decades now but unfortunately for them, this is the citizen-reporting, instant information era where hardly any government can now PR things.

The decades of PR-tuning success is why you have come up with terming Israel's arbitrary and intentional killing of civilians as "mistakes". As psychologists said, if you repeat the same thing over and over and over and over again while in a position of influential power, then people start believing it is true. It is their policy to punish Palestinian civilians for anything Hamas does. They bomb civilians for the purpose of political change, that is one of the definitions of "terrorism". Suicide bomb terrorism is often defined as the bombing of oneself to kill as many unarmed civilians as possible to effect a political change. Remove the part of bombing one's self, leaves you with just the terrorism part.

If Israel has no intention of killing civilians, it would not be killing far more civilians than terrorists. If Israel had no intention of killing civilians, it would not be bombing UN compounds full of civilians while the UN had communicated the compound location to them repeatedly.

The fact Hamas shoots from densely area is not sufficient excuse for Israel's killing of civilians. They know that PR BS worked a lot before and they exploit it as a means to kill whoever they want to kill and claim "Hamas bombs were kept there" without any proof.

You take the sense and think about it yourself, if Hamas comes to use your house to bomb, would you remain there for Israel to retaliate?

Or you think it is the warning of "3 mins" that Israel gives that makes them so "compassionate"? How easily can you get your family out of a house at night in 3 mins (which could actually end up being 2mins 38 secs as it is sometime a funny game to some Israelis)? If you have a baby, young kids and your 80+ invalid grannie there, and still have to inform your neighbours too, how easy is that?

Don't believe that tosh about Israel looking for peace. A country looking for peace does not go about committing the same atrocities of building settlements and taking lives that started the war in the first place. Israel continues to build settlements and then once it becomes a city, say it is not negotiable now.

The alternative for Israel to do first is stop stoking fire with the hope of using oppression to hold on now and then cheating the other later in negotiation. No person/entity that continues to carry out injustice can claim to want peace. It is a paradox.

Teespice: Na where dem go see you.

I live through and within my intellectual words.

ProfCorruption: Consensus from ?? Go on and be preaching morality in the midst of a devastating war. Whoever blames both sides, like yourself, I presume is looking at this conflict with plain lenses?

If you are not going to blame both sides, which side should you blame?

The one that is oppressed, slaughtered and has its lands taken?

BlackBaron: Take your head out of your asss please!
So in other words, to eliminate BH we'll have to employ a scorched earth policy. Oh, yh...let's just nuke the northern population then...?

Israel has the iron dome to protect her civilian population. The Palestinian population is helpless between Hamas terrorists and Israeli army onslaught.

My buck stops here. Horses for courses like I always say.

Thank you.

To him, as long as it is Muslims that are dying, it is cool.

davidylan: Well what would you have Israel do? WWII required the destruction of entire countries... two atomic bombs that killed more than 200,000 innocent civilians was needed to stop Japan during WWII... war is war. I do not buy this false sympathy for entire families and children that seems to exist only when Israel has to defend itself.

There you go again with useless comparisons.

- Old era vs new era.

- State & State vs State & Civilians.

Defend itself against what?

The stealing of another person's land while breaking all international declarations?

ProfCorruption: Israel is not targeting civilians directly. So what's the point?

Amsorry?

Repeat your statement.

Chrisbenogor: Sometimes I wonder if civil discussions are ever possible on Nairaland.
Between a Rock and a Hard Place -

It really does not matter at this point what the history is that brought Israel and its arab neighbours together. As far as this present escalation is concerned, the real question here is
WHAT SHOULD ISREAL DO?

On the surface so many things look unfair, Hamas seems to be the ones who have no moral boundaries. Its ok for Hamas to shoot rockets into isreal, its ok for Hamas to "Intentionally" target civillian populace with rockets. Isreal has every right to protect itself.

I dunno who is a lot more cruel here, the fighter Firing rockets from his backyard knowing fully well that it would be traced and his house brought down or the one that even has the patience to place a phone call to a house and say hey guys you have to leave now before we bring that house down.

Or maybe isreal should have sent peace envoys to go plead with the Palestinians to stop the rocket fire.


800 people Vs 36
I wonder which side should wave the flag first.

When Israel targeted 4 pre-teens little boys on the beach with aerial bombing, that was not intentional targeting of civilians? When they missed with the first bomb and the little unarmed boys were running with their little legs for their lives and Israel sent a second bomb to finish the job because they dared play football on the beach, that is not intentional targeting of civilians?

When Israeli snipers targeted a teenager running from bombings with his mum and shot him in the legs, that was not intentional targeting of civilians? While his mother was wailing and perambulating on the spot in horror for it to stop and the sniper kept shooting at the boy, it was not intentional targeting of civilians?

When Israeli snipers shot an unarmed, skinny guy going to look for his family in a rumble who had just been blown into shreds in their beds to see if anyone survived, that was not intentional targeting of civilians? When this unarmed guy was on the floor wounded and the sniper shot him again in the belly, that was not intentional targeting of civilians? When the sniper then put the last bullet in his head, that was not intentional targeting of civilians?

Israel has killed more than 1000 civilians out of the over 1300 it has killed and Hamas has killed 2 civilians and 53 soldiers, and you think it is only Hamas that is intentionally targeting civilians?

So it is OK for Israel to kill civilians?

When Israelis are on the streets of Tel Aviv singing joyfully "There are no more schools in Gaza because all the children are dead", you think many don't know their crimes?

You honestly believe Hamas fighters are reetarded enough to be firing from their own homes?

BlackBaron: Both sides are to blame.

Hamas for launching guerilla rocket attacks from within their civilian populations and Israel for hitting back with excessively punitive actions against the civil populace.

Sadly war in this current era has moved off open fields into bedrooms, hospitals and classrooms.

Israeli actions in this conflict has been far too punishing and constitutes war crimes. Hamas too is a terrorist organisation that deserves to have its cadres down to the last man wrung to death.

Thank you.

A bit of correction: Israel blatantly murders innocent civilian populace. Its actions are that of any similar terrorist organisation. It is a Terrorist State!

andromida: You and the "Real man".

That is why I am a legend!

I have demystified that manipulative tactics to readers on NL.

Now, whenever any NLer is called a "Real Man" by any female in real life, instead of beaming in some moronic pride, he would actually pause in shock and conduct a self-evaluation of his recent actions and utterances to see if he has been a mugu.

I will live on in living memory of many NLers, no doubt.

Sagamite changes lives. I make a difference everyday.

#teamhaveabrain

bilal4riid: Bros u can't use Bible to justify QUR'AN wrong!! Bible fails so many scientific test while Qur'an didn't, the Christians woefully fail in terms of Living according to the Bible injuction, while Muslims adhere to the teaching of Islam. So where lie the truth

Before I rip into you moronic "proof" of the truth, please tell me which scientific tests the Qur'an passed.

emsheddy: why do i have to waste my time on things dat will never make sense to u? U have the freedom to call it what u like. Grace speaks!

If you can make sense, then it should make sense to me.

So this is challenging your ability to make sense. Are you going to take up the challenge and shame the devil?

Akpobaro: INFERTILE M.O.R.O.N

You are a mentally-ill person, how can you be good-looking?

Shadhark: is dis supposed to be funny or Wat?

I am only giving you an idea on what you could do to find the rubbish stories in the Bible believable.

lebesgue: The phrase "Not Man Enough" is one of the many weapons that women use to control a mugu. If the phrase hurts you, then you a weakling, for no authentic man cares what others---especially women---think about him.

Where is Sagamite?

It is a mugu-control tool.

And you see fucktards changing their position quickly and turn to willing-to-please reetards so they can get a pat on the back from women as "Real Man".

mahleeq: u need not say that, I did already, when I was sure sagamite was no more,

i assumed that Nairaland July 5 Bomb kill the syndrome called Sagamite, God will punish that Hacker boy na fake bomb he go buy. the bomb no kill ham na injury e give ham, na boko housefly of proven and tested loyalty go win the next contract, funny enough nah heaven I go arrange money give ham, u dey shock? boko boiz loyal Wahlahi no be small .The earlier you start running the better

You are a cretinous person!

You are more likely to be dead soon than I being dead.

Remember that 54 years old and below is the target of your life.

Akpobaro: UGLY SAVAGE

Mentally ill person, are mad men like you good looking?

Akpobaro: LEPROSY-STRIKEN BABOON !!!

Mentally ill person, you spoke monkeynese to baboons too?

Akpobaro: Your ancestors were all mentally sick men. you inherited the mental disorder disease from them. LUNATISM is in your d.n.a

Mentally ill person, it is not my ancestors that talk to chickens on the streets to find out what they think about God?

Guess which person did?

Akpobaro: keep shining your DECAYED TEETH like that of a ROASTED HE-GOAT.

Mentally ill person, did you see the teeth of the goat while talking to it about God?

MrT2011: You are such a "silly" "boi"
I love your guts.

Am a Spiritual Scientist- I'll love you to study the CHEIRO'S Book of Numbers etc (Numerology & others)
It's interesting... Someone like you should grasp the key to the Universe.

I wouldn't be surprise to find out you r a member of school of thoughts.

My life is about using my brain.

Not the brains of illiterate medieval illiterates.

I like to formulate my own school of thought on EVERYTHING. I am intelligent enough to do such formulation, but it is not appropriate for everyone as not all have a quarter of my brain. Many need this religious junk and I support them in having it.

As I said in my interview here about my personality, I am not and I have never been a follow-follow person.

https://www.nairaland.com/505643/sagamite-lets-discuss-agnostic-deism

I have a fantastic brain and I use it to make independent decisions. Because they whole world is doing something does not mean I would join it.

I see a lot of person kids nowadays getting body-covering tattoos because "everyone else is getting it". I was never like that in my youth. I am really hardly impressionable. I DON'T FOLLOW, I fcking LEAD!

Here is my position on the religion thing:

https://www.nairaland.com/505643/sagamite-lets-discuss-agnostic-deism

yemaldo: Bible support all those things u mentioned above,here is prove:
It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said“Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people ( 1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value ( Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of“all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses”( Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered. The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave ( Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse ( Judges 11:29-40and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks ( Hosea 13:16& Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person. Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself. Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven:"For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."( Matthew 19:12 ASV) I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates. The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrificeand animal sacrifice. And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear:"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."(Luke 16:17 NAB)

You are a cretinous person!

So why are you telling me what the bible also says?

blackprowler: Pls help us do this important task. My survival depends on it. The religion behemoth wants to drown me. Please open a thread for all who consider themselves in the non-religious community to register and start to form a community to meet. Wherever you are please do one for Lagos too. I'm in Lagos. We are seen as misguided noisemakers blowing too much grammar. I'm not interested in debating religion. That's the whole point. They are cornering job placements, business opportunities and other favours to members of their group while we refuse to organise. We come from different backgrounds. Maybe you come from an enlightened family where you face no stress. I come from some of the lowest levels a family can come from. My mother is a complete disaster in this issue. She announces to everyone that I said there's no God and they look at me like I have HIV and half-illiterates try to come and "advise" me about life. All my siblings have been caught in the joke. My attempt to run away from this joke led me to resign my well-paying job and try to run abroad on half a chance. The attempt ended badly and I became trapped here with same family that simply declared it is because of my position with respect to God. I am living a disaster. This is not academic to me. I don't know ONE person like me to even defend me one day.
If we had an organisation where we help each other, go to one-another's occasions, these clueless people would then start to give each of us some respect. The story is too long, can't be written fully here. If we start, I'm sure in a single year we would number in the hundreds. Many are hiding because of the overwhelming influence of religion in society. Overwhelming I say: from the president, governors, Nollywood stars: everybody. It's crazy. I feel under siege. I lost everything just to escape this country and its lunacy. Yet I'm stuck here, far worse than before I attempted to run. My situation is bad enough to be granted political asylum but as I learnt in the UK, the process has been so abused that no one would ever believe me. That's why I returned quietly when my visa expired. I've been trying to contact notable people to work on moving this country in the right direction but even they are part of the problem so they reject me. Once oby Ezekwesili realised I wasn't with her in the Adeboye craze, that was it. Religious, political, social, I can not fit in this society. I can only spend my time working to change it. Dem no gree

Nigerians are sick!

When I was younger, people also tried that with me too. They would bring elderly people to come and tell me crap about religion out of their ignorance.

Thank God since I was a child everyone has known me as a maverick and a joker. So when they try their shyt, I just smirk and when I have the chance to talk, I tell them I have heard and it is working. That I can feel the holy spirit taking over my whole body. And then I start shaking and screaming "Jesu, Jesu, Jesu" before I start dancing Michael Jackson.

They laugh and say this guy is a complete rascal. They pray and I give them the loudest amen like AY. When dem finish, I walk way.

Now I am older, I don't even wait to listen. I just start singing "Pata Jesu, a o mari mor. Pata Jesu, atengun ti gbelo" (The underpant of Jesus, we cannot find it anymore. The underpant of Jesus, the wind has carried it away). They quickly shut up to save me from more blasphemy.

Also a good thing the whole family have known me as a dominant and intelligent personality right from time, so they know I will do what I want to do.