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[quote author=ose_o]37m for the directors of nnpc is actually not too much, considering that my friend who has less than 5 years experience got offered 17m annually by total. Top staff earn about 50-60m annually. You expect to get competent staff yet you don't want to pay them. How do you expect the country to ever move forward when you are not willing to invest in the people that will make decisions on your behalf?[/quote]The annual salary of the governor of Bank of England is less than £310K. There are people with about 5-7 year experience in high finance making that. Are you telling me the Governors of BofE are generally incompetent?

Do you think from your arse?

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Guy now you're officially crowned "king of dumb"....do u know grammar at all? "Too very poor" is wrong? Go learn grammar my guy. By the way, stop abusing this "person" word, now we have already gotten over the excitement that you just saw that word online & have been looking for who to use it on. Go & Google & search for the next big word you need to abuse & come back here & look for people to make victims of your "excitement." By the way, Thank God you finally got your friend to help you type better English in the above quote( your last post). I give you 6/10, you can do better.[/quote]You are a person!

Maybe in the schools you attended in our dilapitated education system, your English lecturers would say "too very poor".

Mooron, it is one of the following: "too poor", "very poor" and if you want to magnify it "extremely poor". Did they teach you grammar at school?

CRETIN! You are the one criticising someone's English. You are a person!

When you have people like this teaching you, what do you expect. Maybe this was your school teacher: https://www.nairaland.com/912090/lagos-state-legalize-voluntary-cremation/2#10751833

What is "Go learn"? What is "need to abuse"? What is "& come back here & look"?

You are what?

Say it . . . . .

naijababe: Ori e ti lana o

Na fact na.

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Grow up you tiny brain. Why the insults? Did I insult your father or mother? Didn't your parents teach you manners? Gaddafi was "killing his own people?" Are you serious? Oh I didn't know that. Is that what you saw for yourself in Libya or is that the lie you got fed by the media? Mr know-it-all, did you by any chance watch the video I posted above or you want to behave like your dumb fore fathers who thought they were wise & knew it all & always believed the lies of the white man who gave them cheap mirrors in exchange for their resources & their own people who were turned forcefully into slaves? AND OH BY THE WAY,YOUR GRAMMAR NEEDS TO BE DUSTED,IT IS WAY TOO RUSTY & TOO VERY POOR FOR A "MR KNOW-IT-ALL" LIKE YOU. ABI DID YOU USE THE MONEY INTENDED FOR YOUR SCHOOLING TO GO & BUY MIRRORS LIKE YOUR DUMB FOREFATHERS?[/quote]You are a person!

You are talking about my grammar and you are using "too very poor" in your sentence? FOOOOOOL!

So Gaddafi did not kill his own people? He was leader for 40 years by popular plebiscite?

CRETIN!

Fucktards go and bring "evidence" from a TV station run by the Russian GOVERNMENT and think they have a brain cell.

Raimond: Fashola did more of renovating and beautifying the what had existed before,more like restoration.Akpabio built from scratch.I'm from there,so i know what i'm talking about!

And you point is?

Alusi Okija: Sagamite.

It seems you cant hold a debate devoid of insults. Well for the purpose of this topic, lets agree to disagree. I think it will be the best thing. Unfortunately neither of us are in any position to do s'hit about the subject matter. For future purposes, you may wanna do away with the insults as it makes you appear rather childish and your point is lost inbetween curse words. #justsaying

No!

It makes me stand out. It makes me unorthodox. It makes me spicy. It makes me entertaining.

Most intelligent people will agree with my insult even though they have no guts to do it themselves or have been programmed only one narrow channel is the only way to a goal. I believe in multiple channels because I am uber-intelligent and have a mind of my own. I insult some, I don't insult some, depending on my judgement of which will help me achieve my goal in each situation.

I am just too gaddam, fcking brilliant.

[quote author=pretty_boi]I can't believe that some people are still soo daft & gullible that they still believe all the lies the west cooked up against Gaddafi. Are you so insane? Evidences came up last week that Gaddafi was a big part of Sarkozy's last presidential campaign contributing about $60/600 million...yet that time this fool called Sarkozy did not call Gaddafi "evil." As soon as Gaddafi started coming up with policies & ideas on how the whole African continent could use its resources to crush the economies of European countries that have long been engaging in neo-colonialism, the three musketeers namely, Nicolas Sarkozy, David Cameron & Barak Obama (that fool that the u.s. & Europe is using smartly against Africans & Black people in general because they know we Blacks & Africans would think since he's one of us, he'd have our best interest at heart) then pounced on Gaddafi,cooking all sorts of propaganda & eventually killing him. Sarkozy is a sly devil & I hope the remaining 2 devils Obama & Cameron fall out too. I don't care who takes over after them,for now the enemy of my enemy is my best friend.[/quote]You are a person!

It is a lie Gaddafi is murdering his people and never want to leave power?

FOOOOL!

tuniski: @Sagamite on point bro! It is a matter of choice oooo. The best honor u can get is that of service so where the private sector swims in greed, the public sector lives with honor and pride! Afterall, it was the greed of private sector or is it free enterprise that led to GLOBAL ECONOMIC meltdown.NNPC top mgt or not the amount is too much for public servants. That is why we have d most expensive democracy yet so ineffective! It is only cos we are twisted country that's why do things upside down while looting the commonwealth. what is gud life when d very people spoilt public amenities just to claim accolades for foriegn trips on what should ordinarily b available in cheap aboundantly accross d nation. Mschwwwwww!

It is the mentality of so we can also have pride and happiness in our work that the legislooters use to mentally & morally justify their criminal looting of public funds. One of the key reasons why they are not ashamed and can sleep well at night with such legal thieving (that is apart from the fact majority are morally bankrupt).

You get the leaders you deserve. Alusi's leaders are the legislooters.

crocodile: @ Sagamite,
You are just talking trash here. These Senators and reps were they not votted in to serve at the cost we can afford?
Those NNPC management staff earning those millions were employed and offered those wages. Many of them can and have left to other companies payiong better wages. Doctors and other professionals worth their salt leave this country to other climes to ply their trade for huge sums.
I insist that MAJORITY of our Reps and Senators are UNEMPLOYABLE and can go nowhere to earn what they are earning in this country. Compare their salaries to other Senators and reps in other countries! CAN THEY LEAVE HERE AND TAKE A JOB IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY EVEN AS POLITICIANS? you think we don't know most of these people who took night bus to Abuja and are now claiming to be millionaires before taking up the job! Let each tell us their pedigree before coming to the house!

You are a person!

You are a person for continuing to use the milking of the system by legislooters to justify wastage in the system.

It is just a really stewpid way of thinking and such stewpid level of thinking is what makes this world a harder place to live in. When people like you have to be considered for, or even appointed to positions of, decision making the world can not run efficiently.

So because legislooters are criminally overpaid, that means we should criminally overpay everyone else instead of fighting to stop the looting by legislooters. FCK DEMOCRACY! We really need to have geniocracy. I am fcking sick and tired of moorons thinking they are entitled to opinions. FCK EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION!

YOU ARE A CRETIN!

Alusi Okija: I dont think its too much at all!! Especially for Management.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

For the lady who asked about the function of the NNPC, I suggest you grab a book on the subject as their functions too plenty and I am not being paid to school you.

For those shouting that its too high, I suggest we strat by attacking the Senators who take up a significant percentage from the Yearly budget of the nation as testified to by Mallam Sanusi Lamido Sanusi. NNPC as a coporation has more workers who do real work in their employ compared to these senators. Cut the salaries of the public sector all you want, but dont expect professionals to come work for peanuts when they could make a killing in the private sector. And then when you pay them peanuts, how do you expect them not to collect bribes when the average guy in the private sector makes more than they do with even better benefits.

I suggest that we put sentiments aside, In Nigeria today, 30 million is about right as the yearly income of a certain level in the public sector if we want them to have pride in their work.

Start with the Senators and Reps!! Thats just my qualms. . . They (reps & Senators) cant be shouting about another mans salary when they make morethan 3 times that in a year.

And the NNPC staff do more real work than our doctors or lawyers? Do we pay those also N37m per annum? So they are not suppose to have pride in their work? If Sinators are earning that much, it justifies us paying them N37m too, init?

Who is stopping the NNPC staff from going to the private sector if they want to be paid more?

Alusi Okija: Obscene?!

I dont think so!!

Like you said, if investment bankers are earning up to 2.5 million per month in the private sector, how much do you think a manager in CBN should earn monthly (after tax & without benefit)?! Emphasis on upper level management.

So the Governor of Bank of England should be paid £6m a year because senior executives in banking are making the same?

Alusi Okija: So how do intend to attract the best into the public sector when you arent willing to pay them well. These folks have a family and also desire the good life too you know. And I still maintain that 37million per annum really isnt that insane.

And dude seriously!!! 40%!! Thats about 12million per annum!!! Like seriously!!!!!

I'm sorry hommes, I beg to differ on this one.

I did not say pay a desk clerk 37million, but a director, manager and upper level management should be well paid.

If a man is worth his wages, give him his money. What you are advocating is slave labour all in the name of patriotism/call-to-service.

I want the best minds in the public service, I want them to be amongst the best paid in the country so they can also have pride and happiness in their work, and that would make joing the public service attractive to the bright and intellectually gifted citizens who would believe they can actually make a good career in the public service.

Pay shitty money and you get shitty employees like we already do in the civil service today. No incentives, poor wages (that are not even paid as at when due), terrible working conditions, poor benefits, no insurance cover, absolute rubbish.... Thats why the genius minds would never want to join the public/civil service.

You need to go and educate yourself with the difference between public and private sector jobs.

Everyone would wish for the best minds in public sector but not for the greedy mind. And for your arse to sit there and say someone cannot live on N12m a year in Nigeria (it is slave labour) despite the free accommodation and rides is ridiculous.

We should even pay our President N598m per annumn so he can also have pride and happiness in his work, since he is running the country.

Just pure ignorant arguments.

Delafruita: am sure the thought of saddam hanging gives you a haed-on.i wonder what those crazy arab leaders would have turned the world into if there was no america,france and allies to limit their anarchy.sarkozy lost,but french foreign policy wont change much

Such crazy dictators are great leaders in the eyes of morons like him.

solomon111: Nah!
It did not use to be,until all this feminists came with their crazy ideas.
These guys are ruining african families.

You need to pick up your books and start reading about history.

Never bring weak arguments to an open debate table, you would be made to look like a fooool.

sheff: Thanks to the people of france One of the murderers of col Muhammed Gaddafi is gone remaining two(cameron who his party lost at local elections) and silent war killer advocate Barak Obama.

The killing of that rat is one of his greatest legacies and one of the best moments in history.

An absolutely beautiful sight to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-xqXhGpRLQ&skipcontrinter=1

The wife of Hollande is hotter than Sarkozy's so-called supermodel wife.

Oyinbo people and there useless perception of beauty.

PhysicsQED: If you want to make this about north or south or ethnic groups, that's your own business as I'm not going to get involved in that. I'm not here to hold brief for anybody in the south as information (in books and articles) is out there and readily available about what resistance there was and when.

I was just questioning the validity of the claim that they were seriously "at risk of being defeated". I don't think that was the case. Of course with the maxim gun a small number of troops could hold off or defeat a much higher number of troops fighting with more traditional methods but the truth is that British forces did sometimes withdraw if they felt they would lose and in this instance they stood their ground because they knew that they were owning without needing reinforcements.

By the way you're talking about horses and horsemen, but the only reason some groups (Nupe, Igala, Fulani, Oyo, etc.) used horses extensively is because the horses could survive well enough in their areas. In the south where the tsetse fly kills off the horses, they would merely have been items of prestige that would die off quickly. So having horsemen or not is not even particularly relevant.

You will be amazed the kind of simple things that an illiterate holds as a thing of prestige. When there is not much to be proud of, illiterates will scrape anything (mostly by association) in their lives to be proud of. This fool did not go to school, so he is looking for some association to make him feel on par.

"We rode horses", "We are good at fighting and killing"

Without education, one will always remain with a rudimentary level of thinking and pride.

solomon111: You are an Id!ot!
Don't come here trying to break the balance of African relationship.
I wonder who is dumber,if with all your 'smartness',all you guys can show for are crack heads,beat dads,baby mamas,artificial marriages, then i'd rather they be dumb.
Restrict your dumb-ass ideologies to america!
When it comes to relationships and marriages,we've got nothing to learn from you.!

And all the above are not in African relationships?

[quote author=Lord_Reed]I suppose many mental ill people go about their daily lives driving themselves and taking care of their houses.[/quote]Your point is?

So people with mental health issues cannot drive or take care of their house?

[quote author=Lord_Reed]BTW how many mentally ill people do you know who died as a result of their mental illness?[/quote]Someone told you I work in a mental hospital?

So a person with mental issues can not die young?

nagoma: Crayola was Going on about "the resistance of ibos to British invasion ." Can you give me one detailed example such as the one you quoted about kano? Was there sincerely any organized resistance In the south. I don't expect them to have horsemen perhaps no Igbo man living in 1902-03 had ever seen a horse ( if they saw one they would eat it). How could such people organize any resistance to invasion. You will also need to read history books to know the circumstances around the British Kano expedition.
So there was no risk of defeat and they gave the young man VC ? You think VC is certificate of attendance doled out to any soldier just because he chased fleeing enemy? VC are only won in real and major dangerous combats not for minor resistance. Check out with the Brits.

You are a person!

So owning a horse is what a swelling your head?

Fck, it really seems nothing has improved in the average Northerner's mind in over 100 years.

Cretin, a man used 44 men to get a VC medal by defeating your army and you don't get it. Did you go to school?

jp philips: how human beings with brains send themselves to untimely prison in the name of religion, this country is finished!!

magic pastors on one hand, sharia "hisbah or hisbolla" on the other na so we go take reach where america dey?

Abi o!

One hand na prosperity being preached by conmen.

The other hand na kill-kill being preached by slaughtermen.

crocodile: Nigerians make me laugh! Do you guys know that most top level experts in the oil industry are employable and will probably earn more working in a foreign oil company? The senators and reps who are supposed to be serving us but are carting away most of our wealth, are they employable anywhere? Pls don't compare oranges with apples

You honestly think majority of legislooters are less employable than NNPC employees?

They were selling akara before becoming legislooters?

Think before you talk.

yuzedo: Somebody said that Banky W's head is so big that when rain is falling his clothes don't get wet!

Hehehe
Hohoho
Jinjinjin
Gimgimgim

Very funny. You need to be in stand up comedy.

naijababe: Omo na so e be, at least the prices have cooled somewhat unlike the madness of 2006/07 prices

I have always adviced people not to waste their money buying there. It simply irritates me.

Anytime I go there, I get disgusted at the general lack of giving the best by Nigerians. Even majority of these expensive houses have serious "finishing/finesse" problems. There is always a shabby touch in one aspect of virtually every work in Nigeria.

Once the government can improve road and rail infrastructure, I expect much of these uselessly overpriced properties to fall.

Btzzk: Its people like you that are ruin the image of this country, you guys will be fabricating what you don’t know, I am working in oil industry here in US, and I don’t know who you are refereeing to that is making 30-60 dollars a month. Maybe you don’t know what 60k dollars mean here in US. If you see it in the news that CEO of Oil Company make so so amount of money, what you asked yourself is how many CEO did that company have? If someone do something bad let join hand together and condemn those people not encourage them again.

He is just a bloody fooool!

Alusi Okija: I'm sorry you consider my post to be drivel but the truth is I work in the oil industry and know and understand what the function of NNPC and its many subsidiaries are. Now I didn't say that NNPC was an efficient company nor that they were donig great, but their functions can never be understated.

37million per annum isn't too much. Infact, its just about right for a manager. You may not appreciate it cos maybe u aint used to it... But I am just on the very bottom and my annual without bonuses and allowances before tax is approximately 12million. So I hope u understand where I an coming from.

Once more, those senators abi reps take over 20million per quarter so who are they to point fingers.

That is still clunking rubbish!

You are in the private sector. If your employers like they can pay you N50bn every week for all we care, that is their palava.

So because Senators make 20m (which is condemned by the way), that justifies these guys being paid N37m? So why not because of the Senators, we should pay the average Public sector worker N8m a year and let the country go broke? At least that is what their pairs in the US/UK are earning. Surely it can't be too much? Don't they have the same function or even more considering the size and challenges of Nigeria?

Some of you have limited logical reasoning when debating.

naijababe: Sagamu, where been hiding ? U no try with that your signature sha I liked the pastor and jet one better

I had some personal problems that meant I had to run away for a while ni. Some wicked people want to harass me for no reason at all: https://www.nairaland.com/870887/how-do-career-women-cope/17#10731764

As per signature, I am disappointed with property cost in those places in Nigeria that relatively to what is obtainable in US or UK such environs are ghettos.

If you see the kind of suberb property in lovely communities and close to nice venues I can get for $180K in Florida and then compare it to the pile of just decent (poorly finished) but yet top of the range in Naija in VI that goes for about $1m, you will understand my signature.

It is like Stanstead Airport being up for sale for £150m and then someone tells me to come and buy Muritala Muhammed for £1bn. And lets say Heathrow will cost me the same £1bn. Stanstead is miles better than MM, talkless of Heathrow and Gatwick. That is what I note about Naija.

Property in Nigeria, especially in the upmarket areas, are substandard and overpriced.

naijababe: I think you are a tad confused dude! Did someone point a gun to Diezani's head to leave her private sector salary for a public sector one and since when did private & private salaries become commensurate ? Senators, Reps, NNPC = all looters!

Thank you!

I don't know how ignorantly daft people can get to start stipulating public pay must be on par with private pay.

Yorisb: @Topic WTH?!?!

Who called the shots (i.e, the head Judge)? Stevie Wonder?

Abi o!

Eko Ile: Watching your parent's gay sex action must have traumatized you so badly..


Ndo.


Let Akwa people take credit for their good work. Make una go find something in ibo land to take brag, even if na your world famous roundabouts. lmao

You are person!

Bloody poof! So you hate your sexuality so much you think using it as an insult is the greatest insult?

And you will be venting when we start saying Nigerian government should should ban your sick arses.

Poofter!

[quote author=Ejiné]Ironically, what Eko Ile doesn't realize is that the Sagamite he just replied is actually Yoruba.
Chei! Talk about bewildering stupidiity oozing from a dumb monotonous idiiot with a ONE-TRACK mind

Keep making a big foool of yourself, oga
You're the butt of the thread.

Failure at trolling[/quote]You think I was joking when I said gay se[i]x[/i] is detrimental to mental health.

They are passing dangerous viruses up his arse and he wants us to legalise it.

careytommy: Haters continue hating.......
When girls from other tribes were winning, it was because they are beautiful.
Today a calabar wins and some are saying it must be because she slept her way through.

Make this country break quickly, I wonder why we have to live with people who hate us so much.

Another illiterate person with a "We are victims" mentality.

LeoMax: And what will you and/or can do you little human do about it ?

You are a person.

Who said I have an interest in doing anything about it?

Now my question to the pro-Akpabio crew is:

What is the strategy? What is the vision? How does all these help to attain it?

I am a bit too advanced in thinking to be wow-ed by flashy projects. My intellect is supreme.

Building all these without a vision/strategy is what is called 'White Elephant'.

From knowing the vision/strategy then we can know if these initiatives and projects are useful? Basically an Effectiveness analysis.

From there, we can now look at how much it cost to build all these or who is chopping ruthlessly if it is over-priced. Basically an Efficiency analysis.

Anyone able to educate me? I am not saying a vision/strategy does not definitely exist. I might just not know it and so I want to be educated.

Eko Ile: And ibo people are still begging the federal government like beggars for some airstrip with ribbon and ladder on top.....smh

A poofter is trying to insult Ibo people!

Gay sex must really be detrimental to mental health.

Icon4s: Nothing outrageous abt d average of N37M per annum( less than $20,000/month) which am sure includes other allowances. These ar top senior & management staff. Most oil workers in d US earn abt $30,000 to $60,000/month as salaries excluding certain allowances. Nigerian oil workers ar abt d least paid world-wide.

You are a cretin!

Some of you are to stewpid and yet think you are entitled to an opinion.

Since when did you start comparing developed country private sector employee pay to developing country public servant pay?

Since when did the cost of resources/living in a developed country is on par with that of a developing country to justifying paying staff the same?

Thirdly, where did you get your dumb stats of average earnings in the US oil sector from?

FOOOOOOOL! Bloody cretin!