₦airaland Forum

Jakumo:
The cop might have been guilty of murder, but many other categories of trivial non-violent crime can and do trigger IDENTICAL beating to death by mobs on Nigerian streets.   With jungle "justice",  any correlation between the gravity of the crime and that of the punishment all goes out the window, to be replaced with a uniform penalty of death for all people simply accused by screaming members of the public. 

It is impossible to regulate mob murders, and there certainly is no appeal process once the beating begins.   How do you feel, Shagamite, about the drivers on Nigerian roads whose vehicles knocked down pedestrians due to brake failure, only to be dragged out from behind the wheel and killed in broad daylight by instantly formed mobs of "sympathisers" ?   Is that justice in your eyes ?   

Lynching is ILLEGAL by definition, and so there is no rule book available to educate potential lynch mob members about what class of criminals to kill, and who to spare.  That is the problem with instant mob "justice".    It is not justice by any stretch of the imagination, but is rather simply murder committed by multiple accomplices.  For as long as I live I will NEVER have a hand in that gore.

12large1:
you are a freaking case cretin failure of democratism paroism operatism,expressing themselves in a very loud and clear tone.Everybody have gone to matilonipples to say cabudo rejectament tothe case of rabiu ibrahim because of jealousy and an act of not believing in yourself everybody is speaking with one voice and this is not only happening to me i do not love a player i love nigeria and speaks solely about a player because he is good,but across the length and breadth of a soccer pitch, Like ia said,when i gave my Debudelic arrang,i did say that all the rationtilation,al the adumbrations,verba gugriculation effiation that has been put forward by by silly nincompus like you economies and petty buzwagigcon sagamite be careful

Jakumo:
Ghadaffi and Sammy Doe were despots who had murdered scores if not thousands of political opponents, so their deaths, brutal as they were, were necessary evils, to prevent those monsters from escaping to perhaps later de-stabilize entire nations.  In Nigeria, on the other hand, starving people who steal a few crumbs to eat are slaughtered by mobs.  That is dead wrong, and NOBODY is safe in that country for as long as they could be set upon for no sane reason by mobs formed instantly on any given city street, beaten to death and incinerated in front of impressionable children, all simply because of a shouted accusation that could be entirely false and groundless.

The problem with civilians taking the law into their hands in a "peacetime" society is that the categories of offenders who the mob agrees should be killed ALWAYS expand and multiply in number, till you get to the point where merely shouting the word "thief", or "witch" could result in an INNOCENT person being chased down, beaten to death and burnt to ashes.  That, sadly, is the situation in many Nigerian cities and towns, and I firmly believe that such spontaneous killing dehumanizes all involved - both the victims and those who gleefully commit murder in  frenzied groups.

Jakumo:
Ha ha famous last words, hollered at the judge as the bailiffs escort the accused off.

Jakumo:
Just kidding man.   If you have no qualms bout "dominating" the activities of a lynch mob, my humble opinions expressed here will never change any of that.    I just happen to regard those who participate in lynch mobs as murderous cowards, and thus would like to think that you are simply playing devil's advocate as you extol the pleasures of slaughtering mob victims, but if I am wrong in that assumption, then suffice to say your concept of civilized conduct is at extreme variance with mine.

Jakumo:
For me, a muffugguh needs to point a loaded weapon at me to make killing cross my mind as an option, and I simply cannot bear the thought of a mob setting a human being ablaze, no matter the ALLEGED offense of the victim.  The mere thought of such mass insanity makes my flesh crawl.   The global internet audience that witnesses such barbarity will marvel at the sheer backwardness of Africans, and come to regard ALL who occupy that entire continent as primitive, blood-thirsty sub-humans, but hey, if that don't matter to you, then that's all that matters.  It ain't no thang.

Jakumo:
Regardless of the reason offered for the ILLEGAL killing of any person by a screaming mob, Nigerian law does prescribe death by hanging for anyone deemed to have committed culpable homicide, either alone, or in the company of others similarly accused .   With the prevalence of phone cameras in Nigerian society today, anyone who participates in a mob murder COULD be identified from footage of the incident, and later charged for murder, thus becoming eligible for a date with the hangman if found guilty.

Certainly Nigerian policemen are the scum of the earth, but they, along with the military and federally licenced civilian vigilante groups, remain the ONLY armed gangs sanctioned to operate by the Nigerian government, therefore, anyone who feels vengefully entitled to attack and murder a cop is undertaking an extremely risky adventure, in which the aggrieved party is none other than the government of the land.   

Personally I would not hesitate to use deadly force in a self-defence situation where my own life is in immediate peril, but I would NEVER contemplate joining any ululating crowd that descends on a helpless, disarmed human being, beating to death and then setting alight the victim.   Every person who partakes of such frontier "justice" is no better than the individual being killed in that macabre extra-judicial manner, and has, by engaging in such wanton savagery, descended to the status of a cold-blooded sadist and murderer forever after.   The same mob who killed the rogue cop in this instance would be equally inclined to chase down and burn to death further random victims selected on the flimsiest of excuses, ranging from alleged theft of reproductive organs to purported withcraft or petty, non-violent theft.

If you want to pass death sentences in Nigeria, attend law school there, graduate as an attorney at law, then work your way through the hierarchy of the judiciary, until you rise to the position of a presiding judge who is vested with the constitutional power to weigh evidence and prescribe jail or the hangman's noose as punishment for murder suspects brought before the court.  Lynching ANYONE outside of that narrow legal context marks all involved as outlaws who may themselves face judgement and ultimate execution by the state, once they have been identified, apprehended and tried in the court of law.

debosky:
I am not equating them, but they share many common features - the dominant group seeks to denigrate the minority, often purely for self gratification without any provocation. That tweet wasn't necessary in any sense of the word. The ga-y contestant didn't make a pass at him or anything so it is unwarranted.

Are you saying people don't lose their jobs for making racist comments? People can and do lose their jobs. Suarez was engaged in a heated EXCHANGE with an opponent, not simply mouthing off in isolation.

No one is using severe force to do anything. Many people do not support homosexuality but are not attacked for it. This tweeter DELIBERATELY set out to cause offence and that is not acceptable. If you are against it you can express that in non-insulting fashion.

Why express that 'lack of interest' when not approached? Did he express his interest/lack of interest against each person in the celebrity house? Why single out the homosex-ual person for ridicule? Do you express your interest/lack of interest of sex with your co-workers randomly?

I am sure the guy signed up to anti-discriminatory terms and conditions and has violated them. He is a public representative and should conduct himself with decorum.

debosky:
Again she was fired for violating the code of ethics. The issue here is with the code of ethics - if it becomes acceptable to treat people who want to 'change' then there will be no issue. But till the law/ethics are changed, you abide by them - simple. If you know what the ethics require and choose to go against them, then be prepared to face sanction.

If she doesn't like the rules governing the profession, go do something else. I can't wake up one day and decide I want to practice medicine based purely on my views - by registering with a medical registration board, I become bound by their rules and they can strike me off if I violate them.

I don't support entrapment either though, but then again, if as a policeman someone approached you to trap you with a bribe and you accepted, you are still guilty of accepting bribes. If indeed she did violate the code of ethics, then the punishment is warranted.

Whether we like it or not personal beliefs and professional ethics will have boundaries - the key is to separate them and not muddle them up.

solihu:
Roger that! The question still holds. Are you sgt Adewale A. of Isokoko?

solihu:
adwale197, are you by any chance a cop?

adewale197:
D best IGP so far is Tafa Balogun just forget abt d problem he have with OBJ followed by Sunday Adewusi there work is stil speaking 4 dem d worst IGP is Sunday Ehindero and Afiz Ringim.

cheikh:
@^^ Well, I am glad that you've converted to my stance of "retaliation" or "eye for an eye" at last sagacious Sagamite my brother. Our police are not worth reforming but rather it should be "abolished". It is not fit for purpose at all.

debosky:
You're exhibiting double standards - what that guy said is no different to what Suarez said that he doesn't talk to negritos. If Suarez was banned for that, this dude deserves the sack.

No one even forced him to sleep beside the gay dude, but he felt a need to ridicule him in public for no reason. If you go out of your way to insult someone with no real justification then you get what you deserve.

However, with Nigerians' rampant casual racism and tribalism, most peeps say worse things everyday so can't comprehend this type of issue.

suogal:
For d sciences especially med,naija public skuls r natn to write home about,look at uniben wit d best upth;no accreditatn.also uniben,unizik,uniport,dier med certificates aint recognised n d uk.

Funkymallam:
When will Nairalanders grow up by reading well, understanding b4 spewing rubbish?

SR did not bother to tell us hw many govs wives were in d entourage, or they r also her aides?
They bother to skip d presidents own cus it consist mainly ministes  and govnors, or is mimiko also d presidential aide?
Am sure their security details are also added as aides.

Pls lests knw d diff btw aides and participants.

Below is a link that tells u d number of aides assigned to Michele Obama, she has 22 aides compared to GEJ 24.

http://www.ourchangingglobe.com/how-many-personal-assistants-does-michelle-obama-have/

quit whining.

diluminati:
This is the worst president ever. There is nothing that the average nigerian will be proud of in Jonathan.

aguiyi:
i could not get any info on them

12large1:
In 2008 andre ayew was rejected by marseille dude went on trial at 2 german clubs they wasnt impressed with him.  Sagamite stop switching topic we are saying u 17 20 23 and not u 12. Trust me despite your old age pension and all you will not do jack against u 20. Again  i said u 23 not u12 . how can you label a player a

omodapson:
The policeman who shot an innocent civilian should have been disarmed and handed over to the police for trial on charges of murder. To prevent the case file from "vanishing", that handover of the culprit should have been carried out in front of invited members of the press, both local and international, if possible. On several occasions in Nigeria's recent history, serving policemen were handed the death penalty as a consequence of extra-judicial killings perpetrated while in uniform. Short of outright war, there is NO circumstance under which it should be acceptable for civilians to commit lynch-mob murders, EVEN IF the victim of that lynching was SEEN and CAUGHT in the act of homicide. The minute it becomes socially acceptable for an impromptu lynch mob to form and descend on a victim in the street, a floodgate of evil is opened, lending an air of "normalcy" to the notion of baying mobs beating to death and then incinerating motorists whose cars hit pedestrians due to brake failure, or women whose unconventional behavior leads to frivolous suspicions of "witchcraft", or non-violent petty thieves and pick-pockets who pilfer handfuls of loose change to buy a meal. Many of the participants in Nigeria's culture of jungle justice show up at the scene afterthe mob victim is already in the throes of death, AND YET, those "God Fearing" passers-by never hesitate to attack the human being on the ground with gleeful ferocity, JUST on the strength of unproven or unprovable accusations leveled by the crowd at their silenced victim. Killing another human being in the context of self-defence could be defensible in the court of law, depending on mitigating factors in favor of the accused, BUT, there is absolutely NO provision in the constitution or judicial system of ANY civilized nation on this planet, which condones or encourages vigilante mob murder as a substitute for due process in the court of law. No private citizen has the right to inflict ANY punitive measure to address perceived offences OUTSIDE of the universally recognized progression of arrest, arraignment, trial and sentencing effected ONLY by officers and officials of the legitimate law and judiciary.

The same way police carry out jungle justice on defenseless accused. Imagine police arresting ''innocent'' criminals and killing them immediately; that's one specialty of the Nigeria police force. I praise the people for doing this. An eye for an eye

ceasyc:
Sag and divorce and women, u no dey tire?
happy new year sagamu, been a while

chris rock did say that "everybody needs a prenup. . . u got 20 million and your wife wants 10, big deal, u aint starving
but u make 30,000 and ur wife wants 15 u might have to KILL HER". LMFAO!

12large1:
You are a disgrace to your father mother, and to your brothers in north boko haram people. You doubted ri in under 23 is already a senior team how can a bloody civilian call u 23 under 12 wtf look at equtorial quinea that has qualified for quater finals, nigeria olympics team hammered them 5 0 6 of their national team players were there ri nosa igiebir hl stared in that game. You are suffering from what we call inferioty complex a situation where by you think white people are better or they must say something is better before you accept. In your mind until rabiu ibrahim plays for european club befire se should call him. Where was eu club when he was shinning at u172023, u23 is not senior team. At u17 u can claim overage but if a player shines at u 20 or 23 his good. Even if rabiu was 28 playing against u20 if his not talented nothing go happen. Yhis rabiu case goes to all our players that shined at youth level believe in your star players and dont wait for another white club to do it. Look at andre ayew he was rejected by marseille 3 years ago even failed trials at different clubs but ghana called him up for anc 2008 and continue to help him 3 years later look at where he is my guy please as always believe in your self dont let a white man say you can do it before you actually belueve. Nkita lacha anya gi onye ala

12large1:
At young 20 year old obi despite all the injuries he has had this season has played 21 games for inter milan and you call him a part time player my friend please have several seats or just stfu you sound like a dumbasss you are the reason why nigeria is very currupt today when forking boko haram boys are allowed on the computer this is how they show them self. Onye aboki abeg can you wire me suya

GboyegaD:
It only shows the depth of insincerity in Jonathan. How would his wife be travelling with 32aides? What does she need them for? I shake my head for those who still believes Jonathan can do anything      .