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FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 1:54am On Feb 08, 2012
[quote author=c.fours link=topic=859170.msg10146486#msg10146486 date=1328661458]The only time I crave marriage is when I crave children or having a family. there is such thing as "child bearing age" after all.
beyond that, it's really not much of a big deal.

I'm yet to meet a 45yr old man claiming to enjoy his "single years"
whereas there are many women of that age who have experienced marriage and gotten out of it (women almost always initiate the divorce).

women after divorce feel liberated
men after divorce are in a rush to remarry!

really says a lot about who is benefiting most from marriage.[/quote]They are not in a rush to remarry. They meet another woman (sometimes younger, sometimes divorced) in a rush to marry, for security and to be exclusive, who puts pressure on them.

The 45 year old women don't marry quickly because they are not aesthetically what they used to be. Men are visual in selecting partners and also these women come with kids. The women are more likely to struggle to find new partners and they feel more lonely, they end up focusing on their children. I can guarantee you, the liberation is usually a defensive front except it is an abusive relationship.

They are also quick to divorce IN THE WEST because they see the laws as a tool to punish their spouse. Women in countries without such laws don't initiate divorce that easily. They stay put.
EducationRe: Rough Guide Of The Best & Most Reputable Universities In The UK by Sagamite(op): 1:46am On Feb 08, 2012
Una see?

Yale don use style invite Chimamanda to come and do a degree course there.

http://www.yale.edu/macmillan/african/alumni.html

They have seen the potential.

So, now if she wins anything, Yale will claim she is an alumni and that is the reason. When it will have virtually nothing to do with them.
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 1:35am On Feb 08, 2012
ThiefOfHearts:
Tell me if they still "crave" it after the whole wedding hoopla.  undecided

Anyway like I said, you wouldnt understand so such an argument would be a waste.

I could easily give a massive list but seeing that you guys cant accept agreeing with a woman, it will instead lead to arguments and everyone knows I dont know how to argue "like a lady"  smiley

so abeg you and dayo should ignore my post and continue from where you were before I dropped in.  smiley
Lets imagine they do not crave it after marriage, I don't think the fact they stop craving it after marriage in any way increases the benefit for the man. I say a matter of fact, I think it makes it even worse for the man. So I really don't get the argument.

Women want the grand marriage.

Women tend to feel more complete with kids.

Women need the company more.

Women need the long-term emotional security a tie-in brings.

Women prefer the monogamy.

In the West, women benefit more if it breaks down.

Women benefit more from marriage.

That is not to say men do not or can not benefit.
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 1:10am On Feb 08, 2012
ThiefOfHearts:
Marriage in general benefits the man more than the woman.

This thread is long.  huh
[quote author=c.fours link=topic=859170.msg10146402#msg10146402 date=1328659494]funny you are the first and only person on this thread to mention this well known fact.
men really do indeed benefit most from marriage.[/quote]You must both be having a laff.

That is why women crave marriage more? undecided

That is why they attack and beef men stating lack of interest in marriage? grin
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 12:46am On Feb 08, 2012
TV01:
True. So, will you lose hope and give up because the authorities may be hostile toward marriage or because some some women will turn aggressor once in it?
Nah, I will insulate myself or enjoy my life single.

TV01:
Please guys don't let cynicism take a hold. If you don't have faith, have optimism. Your mission (there is for the most part, no more quick chase or easy hunt grin) is too find someone with whom you have shared aspirations towards marriage and/or are able to create your own mutually agreeable construct. I personally placed my trust in God, and we have what would be termed a"traditional" marriage. However, I am not being prescriptive.
No, homeboy, I no dey do optimism o. I am a realist.

What I need is a girl to impress my muthafcking arse. grin

TV01:
And whilst not being prescriptive, there are many strategies. As prey becomes scarce, hunting techniques evolve  cheesy. I didn't learn the easy way, or the hard way. I learnt the painful way.  They are all around you. On the train, in the supermarket and more obvious places. There is much at stake. Be bold. As for hope,that's between you and your God. (I'm pondering how I may be able to "facilitate". But I'm not there yet. Please don't wait for me 0!  wink)
Haba!

Dem no they tell Lion King to be bold, confident, courageous or direct na.

Na me now!

No 1 soldier!

Anywhere I see dem I go just approach dem, slap dem yansh and tell them to put their number on my phone.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . psyche! grin

TV01:
Yes 0!
You can get away with it for a time, enjoy it for a while, even rationalise it for a period. But at some point it will hit you like a ton of bricks. An empty old age beckons and lonliness will stare you hard in the face. The family and societal pressure will turn to pity and the outlook will be bleak. Believe me, the kind of woman you think "worth it" will in all likelihood be out of reach and in some respects you'll probably be a shadow of the man you were.

Please don't make this a question of brinkmanship or forming guyman. Don't let bad experiences make you bitter. We tend to act from where we were and talk from where we are. What we need to do is work towards where we want to be. I beg you guys, humble yourselves a little, there's all to play for.

Look around you. There are lots of unmarried women from our demographic in the 40'odd age bracket. Lamenting their situations. Angry and hurting. Wondering why they rejected those "ok" men. Trying to understand why they weren't more approachable and humble back then. Regretting not heeding the familial and societal pressure. Some are being counselled by friends and family to "just have a kid", before it'ls too late. And maybe the man will stay? It hurts to see and is frustrating that there's little one can do. Rest assured, there is a male equivalent situation. Where do you want to be?


All the best.
TV
Oga, I am not that kind of emotional person o. And I no be same woman-crazy woman-wrapper. I am comfortable ignoring women, no matter how fine they are.

I am capable of being alone. Just give me TV for news, Google, Wikipedia and intellectual books and I can ignore the rest of the world.

And as I fine reach, women will always be on my case o. Dem no fit deny that.

Even if in future I become a shadow of myself, I am bullishly confident my bank account too would become a shadow of itself in future.  cheesy

They'll come! cool
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 12:24am On Feb 08, 2012
Freesia:
@ Saga
I have noted you mentioned about some black girls in the UK with terrible attitudes,you will find these anywhere both here and back home.
Naija girls from North America and Continental Europe are far classier on average.

Freesia:
The good news is I know some really well bred and not to mention down to earth  and stunning London Naija girls with high profie occupations as well so all is not lost,just broaden your horizons,Like someone earlier said they might not all be walking around with flashy outfits  smiley
I will broaden my horizon to North America/Continental Europe Naija girls, Southern/Eastern African girls, Barbadian girl, Trinidadian girls and Martinique girls. grin

Better odds of hitting jackpot. cool

Life is not that hard, I aint wasting my time searching for needle in a haystack when I can order it from Argos. cool
RomanceRe: Whats The Worst Thing Youve Ever Done In A Relationship? by Sagamite(m): 10:48pm On Feb 07, 2012
27naira:
one and only sensible post.

The Moderator is one sick, deluded, morally deficient, depraved, deliquated bomblastocated, bokoharmated, pharambalatic idiota to bring this sinful, unholy, derogatory, trashistic trash to "MY" front page  cool

To All who have posted their idiotic escapade, oya clap for yourselves! Odes!!  cool cool cool
You are a cretin!

What is your business with their life?
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 9:32pm On Feb 07, 2012
naijababe:
Go back and read my post again especially the part about using both your head & heart. The problem is most men make this decision with either their third leg and/or their ambitions. Seen it many times
The third leg has more persuasive powers than the brain.  cheesy

armyofone:
@Sagamite:

"oh thou man of little faith"

"the just shall live by faith"


resurrect that faith and see the Lord rain down HIS blessing on you. You need to go to church and stop backsliding  grin grin grin
Tufiakwa!

God forbid bad thing. angry
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 8:17pm On Feb 07, 2012
TV01:
Having said that, once you meet a women who closely or totally embodies what you aspire to in marriage, you'll realise that key to marriage is the people involved. Once in agreement, large portions of this new-age construct won't apply to you and you can inure your marriage against it.
Don't deceive yourself on that. Some will, no matter how hard you try.

TV01:
Marriage is still the norm and no matter how we look at it, I don't believe there's a viable alternative that's in the long term best interests of men, their offspring and community as a whole.
As a package, you are right.

TV01:
The subplot of my wanting a Naija girl and but typically finding them the most singularly ungracious bunch, made me wonder out loud. Na curse? But after travelling far and wide I finally found one. Ultimately you just want the one! I said typically, not all.
Provide info where you went to find a good one o. Maybe you can resurrect hope.

TV01:
We can rationalise all we please. Except for a few very good reasons, we simply have to marry or we have stepped outside the norm. Either the family and societal pressure will finally wear you down, or it will naturally dawn upon you. Whichever it is, do not, I repeat, do not act in haste. But neither should you leave it too late.

Get understanding, get ready, get married.
Hell No!

I am quite capable of telling family to go to hell if needs be. I do critical things like this with my head, not my heart.

People can perfectly leave happily without being married. No family can push me to marry, only a woman worth it can.

naijababe:
13 pages and counting on top marry marry  huh huh huh huh huh

Marriage is worth it for both men and women if you marry 'your ideal' partner. Yes you can have children without being married and getting laid aint that hard but marriage offers you a life support like no other.

Ask older men what life would be like if they hadn't married? I'm sure you'll get some very interesting answers
The possibility of you marrying your ideal partner is as remote as the possibility of your child getting into Oxbridge while being educated in Nigeria.

Slim.
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 5:50pm On Feb 07, 2012
In my view, all decisions in life have pros and cons, and people are generally different in terms of their values, needs and desires.

Having a wife that is a housewife has its pros and cons, just as having a wife that works.

Even having a ugly wife has its pros and cons, as having a hot wife also does. grin

So marriage has its pros and cons, so does being single. So it is silly for anyone to say being single would lead to some nightmare while being married is going to be wonderful.

People need to make decisions that align their values, needs and desires to the decision that has the most favourable pros and least cons for those values, needs and desires. Some of the cons are risk that might or might not manifest.

Another thing is the shift in environmental and cultural influences. One needs to view how it currently is and how it will change in future as these will impact the pros and cons.

I for one think environmental and cultural influence changes of recent has largely devalued the marriage proposition. It has deeply affected the pros and increased the cons. Most of the women are less attractive to be with and due to the dysfunctionality of our social systems, most Nigerian women more so less attractive due to their personality. If one is going to go into marriage, then one has to make a prudent selection, manage their expectations and de-risk as much as possible.
SportsRe: Nigerian Players In South African League by Sagamite(m): 3:57pm On Feb 07, 2012
RSA:
ANC took over a rundown,broke country and turn it into the biggest economy in Africa.Unless you are talking about African Nation Cup.South Africa is where it is today because of the ANC,from the time of Mandela,to Mbeki's era now 'JZ' Jacob Zuma,who will be voted out next year.

Don't read much in what BBC is reporting,its all propoganda and the fact that good news out of Africa does not sell in the west.

PSL is one of the top leagues in the world financially.It is the most professionally run league in Africa,with good leadership,sponsorship,well supported,competetiveness and top infrustructure.
Are you saying corruption is not rampant by local officials and ANC members like Malema?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/specialreports/elections2011/article997961.ece/Corruption-endemic-in-local-councils--Survey

http://www.iss.org.za/pubs/CrimeQ/No.9/VanVuuren.htm

http://toxinews..com/2011/11/how-corrupt-is-anc.html

Google: "The Rot in ANC municipalities: Five case studies of cronyism, corruption and ineptitude"
TV/MoviesRe: Nigerians Are Cowards (Half Of A Yellow Sun Casting) by Sagamite(m): 3:06pm On Feb 07, 2012
cap28:
bro i've watched all of his videos - he is a very intelligent and insightful person, i beleive he is also a qualified psychologist.
[flash=400,350]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsC0BCAwkb4&skipcontrinter=1[/flash]

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 7:30am On Feb 07, 2012
moremi2008:
Whatever wedding ceremony I end up having will be for my family (I have very few friends and they will all be part of the bridal party). All the extra-stuff is gonna be my mum's doing (dat woman too like parry and tying-gele grin). I have pretty expensive tastes but I am a self-controlled spender. Thankfully, I hate cars in general because I hate driving so I don't have to worry about buying a $100k car that'll be worthless in a few years. My biggest ticket items (and biggest weakness) is real estate but those have lasting value. I am not going to marry a woman that'll destroy what my family has worked super-hard to build because she likes to carry $20k handbags and fancies herself a successor to Daisy Danjuma when her father can barely hold on to the family house in Ikoyi and her mother owes my mum huge sums of money she has been promising to pay back since 2007! That bloody onigbese, owambe family! Aarrghhh! My blood is already boiling as I type this!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are a mugu.

Opening your mouth and throwing figures you can never dream of affording. You plan to steal it from somewhere?
FamilyRe: Men - Have You Ever Tried To Change Your Child's Diaper by Sagamite(m): 12:22am On Feb 07, 2012
Im mama go come meet am when she come back home. cool
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Pledges To Establish Airports In 36 States by Sagamite(m): 12:18am On Feb 07, 2012
afam4eva:
I can't believe that our president made this porous statement. Even the starkest of illiterates wouldn't dare.
Our president is as stewpid as most illiterates.
Nairaland GeneralRe: O Ye My People! by Sagamite(m): 12:14am On Feb 07, 2012
mukina2:
So na only internet warrior you be. Ase o tie le grin grin

Esin inu iwe grin grin
OAM4J:
lol that woman na one crazy woman o. . . that kind woman fit wound person  grin

yeye na so so mouth you get. . . lol  grin grin grin
Katsumoto:
grin grin grin

Saggy dey fear.

Abeg, wetin be fiyan fiyan ?

Anyone can make a claim on the web; the taste of the pudding is in the eating. We must verify your assertion. Just don't pick sagamite; the guy too dey fear. grin
See.

Una dey see?

See all my enemies.

Yeye people.

Dem wan goad me to go and get injured and be wearing POP cast on my bazooka when the woman break am.

I no go fall for am.
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 11:53pm On Feb 06, 2012
queensmith:
The ayettymama fan club!

I do it for the fans!
Ayama-mama. grin

tochimas:
@MOREmi2008 AND SAGAMITE

The women folks would do without the likes of you two. with this mentality, you two has no business getting married. have male friends like you two, or just a little better, at least my friends grouse is that good women has finished from Anambra state and their mama no wan any imo girl for house. Seriously you guys have big prob. I even wish society will change its perception of single mothers. believe we no wan take any poo from any man just as some would rather do without us.
No.

Women like you have a big problem and I am not interested in interacting because of that. That lack of interest is not a problem, it is just sense. You will have to learn how to do without men like me because you will never have one like me.
SportsRe: Rabiu Ibrahim Signs Lucrative 3 & Half Year Deal With Celtic by Sagamite(m): 11:37pm On Feb 06, 2012
sinistyle:
So the tool, sagamite, has fled. . . . Pitiful coward!
You are a cretin!

Flee from who?  grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

You are a moronic goat!

You are in hot fire and you are still beating your chest?

Mugu!

Let me deal with the idiotic junk you put here that shows your level of failed education.

sinistyle:
Oh! Now you realize it's team effort? Then you are a tool for downplaying Obi's influence/role in team because of the SE failure to qualify for AFCON.

Obi was our best player throughout the qualification series. The fact that we achieved better results with him on the pitch proves this. In the game he didn't feature, we lost. In the game in which he was subbed off, we drew, from a winning position. If you didn't have the brain power of a proboscis monkey, you'd realize this.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

Was Obi not there when Ethiopia scored 2? Was Obi not on the pitch when Guinea scored there first goal? What did Obi do that was spectacular? What was his contribution that made him worthy of special mention?

FOOOOL! Proves what? Was he the only player that was on the pitch when we had good results? So how in your daft mind did you attribute our good performance to him? So if a player is not on the pitch when we lose ONCE then it is because of him not being present we lost? You are a cretin! Do you think this is a place to give your Nigerian Teachers Training College arguments? That is the proof process you were taught in our dilapidated education system? Then you will be the same cretin that scream it is a team effort?

sinistyle:
You can blame your NFF for their lack of proper planning which resulted in landing the team in Ethiopia just hours before the kick off of an all important qualifier vs Ethiopia.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

No 1, explain to me how many hours before the match they landed. Which "just hours"?

No 2, what proper training did they not have?

No 3, was the NFF any better when dem Ayila and Etuhu were playing? Did they not get better results?

Fooool! Who do you think you are debating with? You are a cretin! You are the one saying I am running? Ori e pe! You are SUYA!

sinistyle:
You filthy menstral rag, football in Africa has developed. There are simply no minnows anymore these days. The fact that Egypt - winners of the last 3 editions of AFCON, Cameroon, Nigeria, Algeria(participants at the last world cup) all failed to qualify for this years AFCON lends all the credence in the world to the fact that football in Africa has developed and there are no more minnows.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

And the minnows were not strong in 2008 and 2010? Who do you think you are debating with? You are a cretin!

sinistyle:
You're a stone age daft! Rabiu's an age cheat? Why don't you prove it rather than bore us with your endless rants and silly conjectures. "In intellectual circles, you have to back up your assertions" - your own words. For sure, you have daftness for a talent.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

You can as well go and tell me to get bank statements to show IBB stole! FOOOOOL!

I am not a Nigerian to know how a 16 or 20 year old looks. Cretin telling me to go and bring birth certificate. Like if your country provides one for everybody or Nigerian players can not choose to claim any age they want since one is not given at birth.

Only cretins like you would argue Stanley Okoro is 19 years old.

sinistyle:
You're a tool! If brains were dynamites, you wouldn't have enough to cause a vibration within your bogus and shapeless cranium. . .How many 20 year olds are playing regular first team football? In Europe, young players are put in reserves or the youth teams so they could further develop. . .Oriol Romeu of Chelsea was signed from Barcelona's reserves and he has gone on to establish himself at Chelsea. He only made one first team appearance for Barca.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

You are a moooron for not knowing Barcelona's Reserve play in the league below La Liga and Oriol was a regular in that team! Are you not a fooooooooool for not knowing that? You don't check your facts before you open your gob? You are a cretin! Are you still going to deny you are a product of a failed education system?

How many 20 year olds that are labelled stars in their youth don't get games in regular first team? Messi? Henry? Kluivert? Rooney? Robinho? Ozil? Micah R.? Denilson? Walcott? Wilshere? Even Kelvin Etuhu that is by no means a star!

You are a cretin!

sinistyle:
The fact that you're playing for the reserves or a club's youth team doesn't mean your are not good. It only means you're not a finished product yet and you could still develop.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

Lets look at the young boys agbaya Rabiu was dribbling and he was being hailed as a star by cretins like you. How come out of all the highly rated "boys" back then, it is only Rabiu and Chrisantus that are struggling? He is the only one that can not play with his age mates now.

Go and look at the other stars of the FIFA U-17 World Cup 2007.

Toni Kroos
Bojan Krkić
Richard Sukuta-Pasu
Damien Le Tallec
Fabio of Man U

Go and look at the other stars of the FIFA U-20 World Cup 2009.

Alex Teixeira
Vladimir Koman
Maicon of CSKA
Aaron Niguez
Merida
Andre Ayew

People he was claiming age mates with and was being praised for dribbling and was labelled star with. How come they are getting games and we all know they will have a longer career than him.

Why have you been running from my question of why you compared Rabiu to Altidore? You can't defend your moronic argument? I am waiting for your explanation.

sinistyle:
Vladimir Weiss had not made a single first team appearance for Man City when he was called up by the Slovakian NT. He played a crucial part in them qualifying for the world cup and was one of their best players at the world cup where they reached the 2nd round. Your SE that relies on players that play week in and week out in Europe couldn't go beyond the group stage.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

You are a certified cretin!

Before I even slaughter you on this, tell me how Weiss played a crucial part in Slovakia's qualification.

sinistyle:
Once again your daftness shines through. Next time you wanna talk about a product of a failed educational system, look no further than yourself.

What's wrong with a player having trials before he's signed? Owen Hargreaves had trials with Man City before he was signed. He has had trials with 3 top European sides, if they didn't rate him, he wouldn't get such opportunities.
If it were so easy to get trials at top European clubs, Nigerian players won't be playing in Vietnam, Afghan and all those funny places.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

Which school failed you? You are scraping the bottom of the barrel of your thinking?

This was your example? You are less intelligent than a Dodo.

Why do you think Hargreaves had to go through trials?

You are a cretin!

A FOOOL! When you answer that question, explain to me how a player going around for trials is highly regarded, according to your moronic evaluation.
Nairaland GeneralRe: O Ye My People! by Sagamite(m): 1:19am On Feb 05, 2012
Katsumoto:
grin grin grin
You looking for trouble Saggy

That is a bad arse lady

u kno if u mek da p, y quint

u sound like a big intelligent woman to me and u dont sound like u can mek ya p, y quint

u should mek ya p, y quint man

ne neva hia bout de kegel"? u quint man, u quint the p, y pon de body

no man eva stay with u if dont mek de p, y quint man

all men are dogs, all men are dogs

its just dat som on dem are well trained.


lol
Ah 12 pussyclat me married.

Well try go luk up ina the dictionary, D U N Done.  grin

She no even fit spell done.  grin grin grin

Katsumoto:
So na only mouth u get? U see action, u pick race.  grin grin grin grin
Omo, Rambo na bad action guy for hollywood movies o, but being on the ground in Afghanistan na different tori. grin grin grin

Make dem go D U N done me for bed. grin
SportsRe: Rabiu Ibrahim Signs Lucrative 3 & Half Year Deal With Celtic by Sagamite(m): 12:45am On Feb 05, 2012
12large1:
Sinistile abeg free the guy he is a comedian tryna make us laugh. His folks must have called him a cretin or failed education dats why he keep saying it over
You are a cretin.

So you have finished running from proving Ayew was struggling with his career? You now know that in intellectual circles you have to be able to back up your assertions? Now you have got a senior cretin into hot water arguing your point.

He is in deep shyt. You watch how I am going to intellectually gut him. I will slaughter him for being this stewpid. He is SUYA!

Foooools!
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 2:21pm On Feb 04, 2012
queensmith:
actually really cute- im overly flattered. youve all been wet dreaming about me. (except for gay, he wet dreams about other dudes. . . . . )
More like retching at the thought of your smelly blubber.  grin

coogar:
she makes monique look like nicole richie. grin cheesy
She makes Gabourey look like Kim Kardashian. grin
SportsRe: Rabiu Ibrahim Signs Lucrative 3 & Half Year Deal With Celtic by Sagamite(m): 1:38pm On Feb 04, 2012
sinistyle:
You're a tool! Obi was the one holding the midfield together. It was only after he was substituted against Guinea that the SE conceded the equalizer and failed to qualify. In the other game the SE lost to Guinea in Conakry, he wasn't even a part of the squad. He hadn't made his debut by then. The fact that you've chosen to downplay his influence and role in the SE because the team failed to qualify for AFCON only goes to show that you an archetypal m[i]oro[/i]n. Football is a team sport. Joel Obi alone cannot qualify the SE for the nations cup.
You are a born cretin.

Say "Yes, Sir".

So you attribute one goal scored to lack of Obi? That is your argument of what makes Obi special? You are a proper cretin. So now it is no more team effort? So Obi was not on the pitch when the first goal was scored? Obi was not on the pitch when Ethiopia scored 2 goals? You are a cretin! Product of a failed education system.

So what do you say to the fact we conceded less goals in ANC qualifiers of 2008 & 2010 with them Ayila and scored more. Better still against tougher opposition. Fooooooooooool!

So what makes Obi's contribution better or spectacular, cretin? What is the job of the midfield.

sinistyle:
Talking opinions and conjectures, what proof do you have that shows that Ibrahim is an age cheat? Can you show us his birth certificate or anything to prove that he's an age cheat, you shimmering simpleton?
You are a cretinous product of a failed education system? Could your school teachers speak english? Did you have text books? Were there seats in your class? Did you think you could learn anything when 200 of you are packed like sardines in a class?

Cretin, you think it is still an argument if Nigeria is using overaged players? MOORON!

So how come he was a world star when playing kids but cannot get a game against adults?

sinistyle:
You must be the SI Unit of daftness. You dont know anything about footie. You're a tool if you think Ibrahim has only played 3 matches in the last 3 years. Most clubsides in Europe have reserve teams that play in a reserve league. While he has only made 3 first team apps in the last 3 years, he has been very active playing with the reserves or other youth teams. Ibrahim joined Sporting CP as an 18 yr old. Of course, he's not just gonna walk into the first team. How many 18 yr olds play first team football? Sporting actually had high hopes for him. He left not because he failed. He was offered a pro contract but refused to sign - perhaps, the offer wasn't juicy enough.

It was the same thing at PSV where he actually made two first team apps before he finally joined Celtic.

The fact that he's only 20 and has had stints at 3 different clubs tells you that he's very well rated around Europe.
You are a certified cretin!

So a player that cannot get first team in an average league and playing with reserves is the spectacular player you want to see for SE. Why not go to Hackney marshes and pick the next SE players. We should use a reserve player jogging with the other sub-par and injured players throughout the year over Nigerian midfielders playing week in, week out? YOU ARE A MOORON! That is your argument? Did you finish school?

Hear this foooooool, because he has played in reserves for 3 clubs where he hardly even warmed the bench makes him highly rated! The same player that has to undergo trials to be signed is highly rated? You a mentally cursed. You are cretin. You think that is an insult? You need to blow your brains out. You do not realised it is useless. More useless than that of a baboon. If you decide to join baboons in the bush, they would reject you for being too stewpid.

See a cretin saying a player begging for trials is highly rated. Mugu! Come back here and come and explain that moronic point. A player not offered a good contract and is struggling in trials is the one you said is highly rated? A player whose contract was terminated because of lack of first team action and lack of prospect of entering first team is the one you said, while using your worthless brain, is highly regarded? E no go better for IBB and Abacha. You should be targeting how to kill IBB for destroying your life and making you have cement for brains. Just get a suicide bomb and blow your worthless self and him up.

Explain to me how you compared him to Altidore, cretin.
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 3:02am On Feb 04, 2012
queensmith:
ok cowboys, enough sulking. Just accept the pweety lady beat you at a brain game. no need to cry excessively.

awww fagamite- you miss me? your welcome dude I had to come back I have too many lovers here!
Pweety? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

That is why you are fighting for ugly people to be fancied. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
SportsRe: Rabiu Ibrahim Signs Lucrative 3 & Half Year Deal With Celtic by Sagamite(m): 2:42am On Feb 04, 2012
sinistyle:
You have ape shyte for brains. . . You mean what proof exists that playing Obi was an excellent choice? In Joel we have an excellent box to box midfielder that will last us for a very long time. We've not had a player of his quality in the NT for very long a time. Etuhu, Ayila, Kaita, are nothing compared to Joel. He was by far our best player throughout the AFCON qualification series. He gives us reason to believe that there's indeed a future for the SE. The fact that our midfield collapsed after he was substituted in the final game vs Guinea, simply tells the whole story.

That the team failed to qualify for AFCON does not downplay how influential he was in the team, you retarted gibbon. Football is a team sport. England failed to qualify for Euro 2008, does that mean Rooney, Lampard, Terry et al were useless for the Three Lions or does it mean they're not quality players? Your idiocy defies the Law of Gravity.
You are a cretin.

I am suppose to take this as an argument based on your cretinous opinion?

What did he do that was spectacular, mooron!

sinistyle:
And why can't Rabiu Ibrahim be invited to the NT? Is his case any different from that of Jozy Altidore of USA? Altidore has failed to succeed at many clubs - Villarreal, Hull City, Xerez, Bursaspor and only just recently moved to AZ Alkmaar where he's enjoying some small success now and he has for a long time been an important player for the USA NT. He scored one of the most important goals in America's football history, scoring one of the goals that knocked Spain out of the Confed. Cup and qualified USA for the finals where they lost to Brazil. He also played at the world cup and was one of USA's star performers.

Do the world a favour by simply pulling a Desert E to your head, pull the trigger and blow your brains out. The world could definitely use one less spastic.
You are a cretin!

You want to struggle like the rest with examples? Product of a failed education system.

How does Altidore that regular play games compare to someone that has only played 3 in 3 years?

Mooron! Why did you not refuse the free educations as you are still dumber than a Gorilla?
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 2:34am On Feb 04, 2012
queensmith:
why do i have to move? there are plenty of illegal immigrants here too. i dont have to be limited to nigerians! kwasia!
Thank God you know how your future will shape up. grin
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 2:30am On Feb 04, 2012
coogar:
queensmith = ayettymama? grin grin grin

sagamite/davidylan are just wasting their time then.
she's as hopelessly deluded as a one-legged man hoping to win an arse-kicking contest
I was actually thinking if I was to name another unintelligent, belligerent, classless hoodrat like her it would be Ayettymama.

That girl was super dumb and hopeless. So it is the same person?

She reminds me of the young obese girls (black and half chinko) that are on The Biggest Loser 2012. Obese, ugly, classless, obnoxious. Obvious ghetto hoodrats.

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FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 12:09am On Feb 04, 2012
dayokanu:
I have no issue with people want the prettiest and shapely woman or the tallest most handsome guy

But to tag it as being shallow or whatever is what I dont get when every human like you claim want the best for themselves
It was the obese, unintelligent hoodrat that came to that conclusion with her "common sense" to defend her interest. grin
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 11:56pm On Feb 03, 2012
ronkebp:
Just say you are falling for queensmith, and stop using ''abusive words'' to woo her. wink wink wink wink
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This is what I am into, not obese, belligerent hoodrats.

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FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 11:25pm On Feb 03, 2012
ronkebp:
Oh yes!!! that is true, not everybody can be beautiful or ugly, we are all not equal in every aspect, and just because they are ugly does not mean they do not deserve happiness too, everybody deserves to be happy.
Well, in my view ugly people only deserve happiness if they have a decent personality. queensmith doesn't. No decent man wants a hoodrat.
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 11:17pm On Feb 03, 2012
stillwater:
Proud of it! cheesy
Don't know why the women are going back and forth with you guys trying to convince una. Wetin concern me if it's worth it for you people, as if wolves like me care? cheesy lol.
I am scared of people like you that will eat my innocent soul alive. cheesy

queensmith:
^^ why should i since my parents are rich and my ugly Bottom has visa? am i not sorted?
So you agree your ugly obese self has nothing to offer.

Good. cheesy

So stop passing your fear of lonely, miserable old age on others.

ronkebp:
At least one of dem smallies, i think ''Aki'' is married, and we have paralysed/ disabled men with wives!!!! Some women do not go for the appearances only. smiley
Yeah, L'Oreal, ugly women too have husband so men too are not shallow. tongue cheesy
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 8:57pm On Feb 03, 2012
andromida:
Saga, life no hard as u dey take am. Anyway to mean a nice lady and get to knw whether she is a nice or not woman is not rocket science,but if u keep up with d mentality of catching d women at their game u wnt get the rt woman. Stop making lame excuses its either you want to marry or not. Afterall a man with your kind of "intellect" and exposure should be able to sort the wolves from the sheep.
Life is not that hard but every thing in life faces environmental influences. Environment shapes how people behave.

The environmental structure shapes why a woman in a third world will be more money focused than one in an advanced country with personal opportunities.

The environmental structure even accounts to how certain tribes might be about money.

Part of environmental structure is government policy (google PESTLE analysis). If a government set laws that is bad for marriages, it will influence people's behaviours. And it is doing so. I am not going to be a mugu and ignore what is right in my face. There is no one on Earth you can know in-out after 50 years, talkless of the 2 years or so people are using to marry. And i know for a fact that most women are self-centred, I have no problem saying such fact. One takes extra caution and makes the best of it using their brain.

Furthermore, I agree with you that life is easy. Even easier when you only have to consider yourself.

stillwater:
grin grin grin grin grin grin
See wolf.  tongue grin
FamilyRe: Is Marriage Worth It For Guys? by Sagamite(m): 8:27pm On Feb 03, 2012
andromida:
@daviddylan because many guys here have been arguing that most women are golddiggers and money sucking demons,and are ugly as sin too, well where u reside. Since it looks like those are d kind of women you keep meeting and have made provision for bad marriage in your book there is the likelyhood that is the kind of woman you will end up with. "As a man thinketh in his heart so he is"
Abeg no use such lame logic in an exam o.

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