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Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 2:31am On Feb 19, 2018
GoodMuyis:
(1John 5:21 [KJV]) - Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen. grin
WHO ARE the "little children"
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 2:30am On Feb 19, 2018
emerged01:
Lol! Questionable churches u said? That was the same way your dad felt. He has seen what you have never seen in your life that was why he was trying to show by all means where you should go. Deuteronomy 4 vs 9. Don't think he was being domineering.
he was.
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 8:38pm On Feb 18, 2018
GoodMuyis:
Ok grin grin Repent and Give your life to Jesus
it's already with Jesus.it's not you who will tell me that
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 8:36pm On Feb 18, 2018
wink
GoodMuyis:
Before you waste your time on her check her profile 1st grin grin grin grin

Then you shall laugh with me
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 8:25pm On Feb 18, 2018
GoodMuyis:
The bold is not not True, God is super happy when parents insists that Children must serve the God of their Father. That is why He is proud to reveal himself to Israelite as God of Abraham ....of Isaac...of Jacob.

He is willing to secure the Kingdom for David's lineage ONLY is they serve him the way David did.

Do you remember what provoke God to secure covenant with the Children of Rechab? Yet the Rechabite did not claim to follow the commandment of God, but of their father.

Do you know why Ali was condemned? Figure that out yourself

Truth be told you lack Biblical knowledge No thanks to you for teaching the OP rebellion witchcraft against her father
Lmaooo.enforcing your standards is witchcraft? grin

What brand of weed do you take? grin

Please if you don't have anything reasonable or edifying to quote,you don't have to quote me.thank you for complying
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 8:21pm On Feb 18, 2018
emerged01:
Bros chill! Most of you that quoted me never read the posted I quoted. I wasn't referring to the lady that owned the thread. I was referring to the guy I quoted. He sounded harsh trying to justify his action against his dad.
What I meant by payback is near was that the journey of our own parenthood will be determined by our behavior toward our parents. He chose to go to gospel but his own daughter may choose to go celestial.
and so what? If I attend 4square and my daughter decides to attend Methodist and so what?as long as the virtues of Christ is shown in her,I don't give a damn.it's when she decides to attend all these questionable churches like ekankar,gurumaraji,all those churches where they wash head in the stream or pastor will be conducting deliverance for you and ask you to bring 30k,3 strands of your pubic hair,toe nails and red candle and all those kinds of nonsense etc that I Will raise brows
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 8:17pm On Feb 18, 2018
Dirkcoyt:
I remember telling my mama that I'm not getting married but I will bore children. come see emotional blackmail! she was like all her friends are doing wedding for their children say wetin make she talk? she said people will say because she's a single mother that's why he doesn't want her child to marry also.

I just dey laugh, I no gree ooooh, when she see say I no gree she begin dey soft. I also started pointing to some of her friends that were married but later left the marriage, I told her what's the point. I think parents are just funny set of control freaks generally in Africa.
it's that negative perception of thinking they own you.that's the genesis,like a property.I think the root cause is from culture
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 8:11pm On Feb 18, 2018
luvablesam:
fine....mind sending me one then?
very well then
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 5:48pm On Feb 18, 2018
Dirkcoyt:
Me oooooo , person nofit manipulate my emotion, if person dey choke me I dey comot am for road. African parents need to take a crash course in child development.
hian.they think being a parent automatically confers them the absolute wisdom
CelebritiesRe: Moyo Lawal: "Apologies To Everyone Who Felt I Let Them Down With My Nude Photos" by SAMBARRY: 3:58pm On Feb 18, 2018
Nairalanddist:
Be careful what you say or you will see the wrath of Allah. angry
YOU and Allah should get lost jare
CelebritiesRe: Moyo Lawal: "Apologies To Everyone Who Felt I Let Them Down With My Nude Photos" by SAMBARRY: 3:54pm On Feb 18, 2018
Nairalanddist:
When you join Islam you will understand better.
I reject it in Jesus name.God forbid evil.murderous generation
CelebritiesRe: Moyo Lawal: "Apologies To Everyone Who Felt I Let Them Down With My Nude Photos" by SAMBARRY: 3:39pm On Feb 18, 2018
archipelago:
You are a disgrace to womanhood. Being Nollywoid Actress does not mean losing your moral senses in order that you want to be professional. I cry for the womb that carried you for nine months and delivered you thinking a responsible child was brought to this world. If you are married to a responsible man, I think he must be lamenting by now. If yet to marry, I pity the unlucky man. You went unclad because of fame and money, this has shown the type of home that brought you up.
the saint judges have arrived
CelebritiesRe: Moyo Lawal: "Apologies To Everyone Who Felt I Let Them Down With My Nude Photos" by SAMBARRY: 3:37pm On Feb 18, 2018
Nairalanddist:
Mind what you say. May Allah bless you
mshewww who dey fear you

BY THE way no be she get her body?which one be beheading? Any little thing,behead.murder det always sweet una gan o


So if a woman mistakenly touches your phenese your will cut her hand abi?
HealthRe: I'm Still A Virgin But Have Swollen Tummy Like Fibroid- A Friend Seeks Advice by SAMBARRY: 3:36pm On Feb 18, 2018
You're already speaking fibroid into your belly without going for checkup at a hospital.teramo
CelebritiesRe: Moyo Lawal: "Apologies To Everyone Who Felt I Let Them Down With My Nude Photos" by SAMBARRY: 3:29pm On Feb 18, 2018
Nairalanddist:
angry This is why i love Islam. She ought to be beheaded to teach other useless women lessons.
THIS Islamic terrorist is here again
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 3:18pm On Feb 18, 2018
Dirkcoyt:
The truth is most Africans suck at parenting

the truth is most African parents are afraid to ask questions

the truth is most Africans believe they know better because they gave birth to you

the truth is most African parents are largely ignorant

the truth is African parents don't know difference between when to love ,when to protect and when to respect

the truth is African parent pass down ideologies without knowing why it is so

the truth is African parents are religious slave

The truth is not all the ways of African parents are true hence not all should be followed through like zombie.
I remember a colleague of mine who the mother was always policing about.the mother will.come to her school unannounced ,troll her and even be going through her hand bag and when she asked her mom why she was always policing her,the mother said because she married as a virgin and she too must be a virgin and this is a girl that saw herself in her parents wedding picture as the little bride in her parents wedding pictures whilst the mom was visibly pregnant with her kid brother.The babe got wind of the picture when her mom asked her to bring her phone in her wardrobe,that was when she accidentally saw the picture well hidden and tucked under her mom's clothes.she just laughed over it.when she was telling me I found it hilarious.

Yet the mom will be claiming I married as a virgin but she doesn't argue with her.it was then I realise they also lie too and create a picture of being morally perfect just to act as a moral police to their kids
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 3:09pm On Feb 18, 2018
Imustreturn:
hey wadup
I've read all your messages and I understand you very well..most people quoting you don't realize that where in the 21 century. most of our parent's where born in the olden days. there thinking is so different from the current parents. they still see that power in doing everything and making every decision.

this morning I called my family for meeting because of my dad, and I told my mind because so many decisions he has taking has been bad on us and told him to his he should be ready because if I leave this country I will never return . they where all shocked.

I have been forced to that point. so many quoting you should learn from this mistakes of our parents not to give Strict rules to there kids because this kids where giving both.
there's an extent you push your child's endurance and tolerance level and when it gets to exhaustion point,most times the children go south forever and to make them come back home is hard

Unfortunately round table or friendly discussions don't do much except one on one brave,properly planned and intelligent confrontation.

I remember during our bouts of confrontation my dad will quote the bible which most parents use as a manipulation tool saying in ephesians children honor your father and mother so that you will live long

I replied him with the same bible in the same Ephesians that said parents provoke not your children to wrath

Emotional abuse is provoking to wrath
Manipulation and threats is provoking to wrath.You see the bible you're quoting doesn't ad read a particular group of people,it's all encompassing.as it is directed at children,so it is directed at parents.him hand drop.

The thing is when you're READY for confrontation be strategic.know that they will.come from different angles and be prepared for all angles.don't just fight to win arguments,disagree with the aim of agreeing,MUTUAL respect and reconciliation.

If they try smiling with you in trying to weaken your guards still carry a straight face.these parents are wiser than you think.if not they're capable of controlling and manipulating you,intruding in your marriage and almost wrecking it

The point is every relationship where boundaries aren't set,disrespect is inevitable
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 2:56pm On Feb 18, 2018
AprilSmallWoman:
Same issue I discussed with someone yesterday, some deeper life parents take it to the extreme. I'm proud of my parents where ever I find myself cause we were not caged, threatened or forced to attend Deeper Life. My dad always made us understand that we have to have a right standing with God and not about church.
You haven't given your dad a reason to allow you attend another church, no matter his strictness. Stand on your words if you really want to leave the church.
Who deeper life pastor pikin help? Your dad needs to be disciplined sef.
I hate all this forced church nonsense, I love deeper life and if I see any genuine reason to leave, I WILL. Just have a right standing with God, no be only deeper life go go heaven ooo.
I left the church and they didn't see any evidence of waywardness or irresponsibility

The thing is live a decent life,act responsible and respect yourself whilst protecting yourself from their assaults.if THEY don't see anything to use against you as to force you to.church or make them have their way,they will let you be
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 2:53pm On Feb 18, 2018
wink
Yes
Alexas58:
Wow ur dad must be a great man,for him to be the lion of the tribe of sambisa forest
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 2:52pm On Feb 18, 2018
jacyhelen:
nice write up..My mother threw hatred at me cos i failed to attend church...I tire oooo
lol

*ignoring will quell the hatred.hatred only needs attention for it to be fuelled,if attention is not given,the hatred will die a natural death*
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 12:32pm On Feb 18, 2018
iceadonis:
Excuse me.... What do u mean by payback in this situation.... Is a kind of pay back attached to changing church.... I think we serve d same God....
My only point on this issue is dat the lady in question sud not use dis Avenue of changing church to backslide in fate and faith
my own grouse and reason for annoyance is why do churches rival with themselves yet they claim to be worshipping God.they will say haaa don't go to Anglican,there are witches there,Methodist is a church for wizards and other stupid things like that
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 12:30pm On Feb 18, 2018
Alexas58:
Ur father was a civilian..mine was a soldier..
Come nd tell him how to run ur life nd u wee know difference between sprite and water
mshrew


THERE are many ways to enter mile 2 .meaning there are many ways to achieve your aim with African parents even if he's the lion of the tribe of sambisia forest
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 12:27pm On Feb 18, 2018
luvablesam:
Ma binu...i barely comment on posts here....How is Wuraola?....i sent you a DM just now...kindly reply
my dear I don't know how to accept dms o.I have been having challenge with it o.How are you anyway?
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 12:25pm On Feb 18, 2018
emerged01:
Payback is near. You may later see reason your dad was trying to guard you but then it maybe too late. If you are old enough,you need to be under your roof to do what you feel like doing.
I'm under my own roof and make my own decisions

There are somethings that put me off about African parenting.You use your power and authority or financial influence over that child to make him do your bidding e.g threatening him with school fees and pocket money to make him attend a certain church or live a certain life.

Have you asked yourself one day when you don't have that power of influence over that child,what happens to all the lifestyle you were forcing him to live?

You should be asking yourself is my son or daughter acting OR she is actually turning out the way I wanted

What happened to all the rappers now.many of them where forced to be in the choir as kids and teenagers by their parents,but that wasn't what they wanted.now their parents don't have that power over them again,what happens?

Are you training your child to be a good actor to satisfy you ? What happens when he leaves your roof.a parent should use impact rather than coercion.coercion usually turns the kids to good actors and then become opposite of what their parents instilled in them

So why then is the essence of training your child when you know that as soon as you have no power over him again,all the values will enter thrash can
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 12:13pm On Feb 18, 2018
Nodogragra4me:
Same experience here. Got tired of the monotony of the church and just decided while in the mass that I wasn't ever going to continue this charade because of my parents. Got home and bought a strong decode to follow TB Joshua services, back then..... Problem was that while his choir were very good and ministered to me, he wasn't really a teacher and I wanted somebody to teach me about getting God and not just show me his power in the form of miracles.


I got bored until an old woman invited me to my present church and to be frank, the first day I entered the church could be described as the first time I ever listened to a life transforming message, from any altar.

My parents, particularly my dad was aghast but man, it is my life and I told them in a meeting that I don't like wasting my time and going with them to mass is like a waste of time because nothing stirs me during the service.


Today I read the Bible without any encouragement from anybody
exactly.even.God doesn't want you to worship him because your parents insists.he WANTS a willing,free will worship from the heart and not to satisfy your parents.hence my statement if you're going to church to please your parents you're wasting your time.If There's a compulsion or an external influence pressuring you to go to a particular church there is likelihood that you won't receive anything because everything the pastor is saying will be irritating YOU

But when you are in a place you feel fulfilled in,nobody will tell YOU.it's you that will knows and that's when you can flourish thrive and have a Better understanding of the bible.not Nigerian cultural understanding of the bible.There's a difference
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 12:02pm On Feb 18, 2018
luvablesam:
Easier said than done madam....

In Africa every family member is basically an architect to every childs life in that family...

Best bet for you @OP is to either to get married tosomeone who doesnt attend deeper life or get your own place with an excuse of work
hi luvable sam.so you're still on nl and you didn't ask after me abi tongue

And to your comment EVERY family member is an architect to every child's LIFE.but I'm sure the prostitutes touts and pickpockets don't have family members that are architect to the child's LIFE.continue deceiving yourself.

Ever heard every man is responsible for his success or failure in life?

Anyway op you're the owner of your cross.na you know where the shoe dey pinch you,so do whatever you want to do.it's not your life anyway,it's your parent's.you're just a spectator
Christianity EtcRe: Response To 'daddy Freeze And A 'word To 'christians' by SAMBARRY: 8:07am On Feb 18, 2018
Op what exactly is the issue now?
Christianity EtcRe: Mass Wedding: Catholic Priest Sponsors 136 Couples In Nasarawa State by SAMBARRY: 8:01am On Feb 18, 2018
Smh

When will people sponsor orphans to school,widows children,unprivileged people in the school and those interested in establishing a business

People Will rather fund wedding ceremonies,burial ceremonies and birthday parties than life changing ventures
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 6:48am On Feb 18, 2018
mystiquemaestro:
I think you are on a totally different course from the poster's question. You are clearly talking rebellion and defiance of authority in all your submissions here. You aren't even giving ideas that would foster good parent-child relationship in any manner.
lol.that's what you think but not so.There's what they call disagreeing to agree.it's a friendly fight,so to speak.that's what I'm advocating,not rebellion

Very recently,as of yesterday afternoon,on this SAme forum in nairaland family section,a guy was complaining bitterly of how his inlaws controls his wife against his authority.they tell her what school her children should go,as against the school the man wants his kids to go and can afford,they dictate what she should do and so many many other things that I'm not ready to go into because of deviation from the major issue here,you can read it up over there but the bottom line is that he who is afraid to fight has only postponed her day of fight

Lovers fight a fight that lead to understanding and respect for themselves
Friends do it
Neighbors do it.the fight doesn't mean they hate each other or itself JUST a means to create respect and boundaries
Siblings also do it

You see those people who their parents or inlaws meddle into their marital buisness,it's because they allowed their parents to control their decisions and lives all their lives and marriage didn't change it

If she doesn't deal with it now,she will still deal with it later in a harder and more complicated way

Nobody gives you respect ,not even your parents except you earn it

Otherwise she will be married and they'll still be dictating when she should get pregnant,how many kids she should have,where they should live etc
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY:
shadeyinka:
Careful Sis
I perceive you feel honestly justified until you reverse the table and see your own child doing exactly the same for you.

At that time, your views would be ultraconservative to your child. Like
"...Satan is a morning star: I want to be going to the Luciferian Church.

You will then most likely feel like your parent felt when you declared your independence
you're not getting my point.I'm not saying SHE should be rebellious or disrespectful to her parents,but set BOUNDARIES

I'm also not saying SHE should go to a demonic church but she should pray,sieve the church she chooses whether it's in reconciliation with the bible and know whether you feel fulfilled

There are somethings that shouldn't be done for a child at a certain age

You cannot wear clothes for her,put food in her mouth or bath her.similarly you shouldn't choose church for her.let her parents allow her to exercise her brain and power of choice

NO matter how much you love a child,give her the opportunity to make her decision before you turn her to an imbecilic and over dependent child that cannot make decisions except mummy is there

The question YOU should be asking yourself is do I want to raise an emotionally matured individual,who has initiave and can make decisions for herself or do i want her to be totally dependent on me in every thing she does and making her own life decisions (EVERY African parents dream)
Almost like THEY want to think for you,determine WHERE you go,who you talk to,what type of company you should send your cv to etc
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 10:47pm On Feb 17, 2018
greatnaija01:
wow WRONG TIME o.... you woke up at the wrong time.... you will have to WAIT for marriage.... Most people even ladies have the vision of not going back to their parent's home but u didnt start planning early enough. SO marriage is your only option
when popsi was threatening me with I won't pay your school fees,I.won't give you pocket money,back then at 19 or so,I said no problem na,don't give me.if YOU don't give me there are thousands of guys that Will give me (it's a LIE o,na just shakara.I didn't mean it) Shebi if they ask me why I didn't go to school,I will say it's you that didn't pay my school fees,let's see who will get the insult.

Babe,my pocket MONEY dry enter steady,till I finished school and even when I was at home those days and they sometimes forget themselves by calling me unsavory names,I remind them that daddy you can pass your message across without insults.it's not until you insult me,I will do what you want

Since that time till I left the house even as a young girl,if I serve popsi food,he will tell me,thank you,when he wants to send me errand he will say so with respect,e.g please help me do this,not come here,fool,etc typical of how parents insult their daughters.it's you that will train them on how to talk to you,adress you etc

You think African parents care about your age if you don't deliver yourself?lol

I remember my cousin who her dad slapped on her wedding day inside the car in the presence of guests where her husband's friend acted as the driver for that day.that's how disrespectful and disregardful for your feelings or age they can be,if you don't set boundaries now.

That day I was just looking very irritated but in my mind I was laughing because I know they have so basterdized and mumunized her that she can't do anything about it.
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Leave My Father's Deeper Life Church. Is It Right? - Pastor's Daughter by SAMBARRY: 10:38pm On Feb 17, 2018
Flourishh:
The thing is, I'm 24 and I'm done with school, done with Nysc, and I'm working at the moment. I'm still living under his roof.
But the whole pressure is still there and I find it hard to leave the church since I'm a pastor's daughter.
if you don't deliver yourself,they will still be telling you what to wear,what to eat,where to go etc till you enter your thirties and to now start saying anything will be hard because you've made them used to pushing you here and there.

I'm not saying you should be rebellious,you can get your respect back by reminding them that some of your mates are married and if you were,will you still be dictating the church I attend?

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