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Balogunodua:
I have read his so called screenshot and it does not say Yufi was not Ufe (Ife) that is located in West Africa, it only say ls the other Yufi in Kilwa Ibn Battuta is talking about is located in Zimbabwe. If I'm not mistaking...

TAO11:
You are going circular now.

This has been debunked countless times on this same thread. Can’t you cope with pain and accept fate for where God has put you — Benin. Hahaha!

In other words, the farther the Europeans’ penetration into the hinterland of early West Africa, the greater their risk of malaria.

This is basic high school stuff Saamu. You should do better than this.

TAO11:
Yes, he never visited Ife and that’s the point — that is, even from the Mali empire where he visited the impact of Ife was felt.

Moreover, he stated why he couldn’t visit Ife noting that he would be killed.

TAO11:
@Obalufon, don’t worry yourself.

He has been disgraced again.

Obalufon:
Are you saying Ibn bittuta never talk about Yorubas... Laughing!! is even recorded in Yoruba Ajamis taught by Muslims scholars over centuries in Yoruba land

TAO11:
As in ehn you people can lieee.

Wehdone sha!

I mean, what else will you all do for Benin if not to peddle lies as you’ve been doing.

TAO11:
Dumb ass! When did the Chinese first visit Benin?

Anyways, the Europeans (your gods) visited Yorubaland before they visit Benin.

Moreover, your gods (the Europeans) dared not visit Ife in the 1400s because (according to Ibn Battuta) they would be killed by the Ife people even before they arrived. Hahaha! See attached.

He gets the gist. He just hates the fact that his gods (the EUrOpEaNs) visited Yorubaland before Benin kingdom.

Hence, his diversionary tactics. He may find the quotation below of Ibn Battuta interesting to appreciate what Ife was in the 1300s.

@Obalufon, you may want to revisit my reply to your comment on the Lagos/Benin relationship. Let’s stop repeating the Benin account of Egharevba.

The Lagos account debunks it blatantly on specific matters such as who Ashipa is — Yoruba or Edo?; and of how the Binis settled in Lagos — peacefully or via conquest?

Moreover, the Lagos account was documented and published many decades (more than fifty years) before Egharevba came up with his strange contrary claims which as expected became very popular.

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TAO11:
I haven’t seen these set of people before.

sesan85:
Your Oba is called "Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua
N'uhe" (The son of the wealthy Odua of Ife) by your own Bini ancestors, end of. Except you're saying your Bini ancestors were/are stupid and drunk for calling your Oba such appellations. You're paranoid and mentally unstable, go take your meds.

TAO11:
How plausible is it that Benin had kings by the names: Ewuare I, Ezoti, Olua, Ozolua, Esigie, or Orhogbua among others during the period when Europeans reached Benin and documented about Benin.

Yet, there is not one single mention of any of these names (or anything like it) in any of their writings ??

How plausible is it ??

Yet, we find other historical evidence

2. How plausible is the sophistication of Ife if the Europeans that were in Benin City for for 400 years didn't border or deemed it fit to go and experience and explore Ife.

3. How plausible is the greatness of Oyo if it was only visited in 1824 by Europeans explorers despite the fact that they were practically resident in Benin City since the 1400s.

4. How plausible are the historical accounts of Oduduwa if no one can agree on whether he was from Mecca, Egypt, Benin, Sky or Ife.

5. How great were the Yoruba kingdoms? Where are their historical monuments as obtained in Benin.

6. Where is bight of Ife?

7. Where is republic of Ife?

8. When did Ife sent an ambassador to Europe?

9. How many non Yoruba kingdom did Ife defeat in wars.

Please you be the Judge.

TAO11:
And my refutation of your blatant and cunning lies are for the purpose of exposing you to the whole wide world for what you are — an insecure FRAUD.

TAO11:
@sesan85, ALL his lies (I mean every single thing he has mentioned you on here) have already been debunked on this same thread from PAGE 5 to PAGE 9. LMAO!

Let’s just hope that he has enough courage to engage his nemesis — that is, the refutation of his endless and repeated blatant LIES.

Don’t bother helping him with the resurrection he desperately craves.

sesan85:
Lol, what!? Did that cretin just call Ife "fictional Ife"? Is the monumental ill-educated buffoon aware that his Bini Oba is called "Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe" (The son of the
wealthy Odua of Ife)? How exactly do you always have the time and patience to knock endless truths and facts into the brains of these ridiculously annoying, incorrigible miseducated midwits? I get tired easily.

TAO11:
No Beninprince became a King in anywhere in Lagos.

That was the Benin account of Egharevba which he published in the 1950s and which became popular due to the authors popularity.

The attached below is the Lagos account which was published decades before Egharevba by Sir Alan Burns in 1929. The same account had been published in 1879 and in 1914.

Obalufon:
Are you high on OGOGORO "" Lagos Benin Kingdom ke !! When the Ijebu are controlling the water way of Lagos ..Benin influence in Lagos was through the Portuguese explorer that brought Benin Royal to Lagos aboard their ship because Lagos was Portuguese Anchor /quay and is small portion of Lagos Island the prince later became a king because of his royal lineage of Ife Every Benin Royal speak Yoruba... First king of Lagos Ashipa 1682-1716 ..Portuguese were in Lagos since 1472 .. over 200yrs

TAO11:
No it is not.

And Ife was documented a hundred years before Benin could be noticed.

No amount of insults will cure this public disgrace you and Tao have brought upon the Yoruba race. 400 years historical gap Between Benin and Yoruba/Ife is not beans or moimoi. Except that there is no 400 years between Benin and Ijebu/Lagos/Itsekiri documentation.

The only gap is that with which Ife is ahead of Benin.

We are talking about your so called sophisticated cradle of Yoruba civilisation Ife, you are calling on potnovo to the rescue. It's not only Potnovo you will call, it's pot belly . And Ife was documented before Benin.

The coastal Yorubas were documented in the same time as Benin.

Yes, you need it repeatedly sounded to your ears before you give up your lies. It’s a Benin thing

Obalufon:
Fool idolize the whites as the source of their civilization We are totally different from you apes we do not see the pale skin as something special That is why your white masters think we yoruba are different from all you monkeys .Some white scholar even think we are from Egypt ,lot of book are out their about the exceptional brilliancy of Yorubas race to the extent they are looking up our DNA

TAO11:
No they were not.

Just as the Ijebu they visited is not.

No! An Arab documented about Ife 100 years before Benin could be heard of.

Do you mean this in the sense of Benin to the rescue of Edo land?? LMAO!

I understand that it takes you some religion before waking up to reality.

Since that the case, hear it again: There is no 400 years gap. These coastal Yorubaland have their written EUrOpEaN history from the same period as Benin.

The only gap is that Ife was penned into writing 100 years before Benin will be noticed.

Obalufon:
Useless fool 400yrs after reaching Benin Slowboy..Portuguese were dealing with aworis and ijebus in Lagos and the ilajes and the Ajashe of Potnovo almost100yrs before knowing about Benin kingdom through the itsekiris .. Even Benin is yoruba colony

TAO11:
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The Ijebus, Lagos, Jekri have recorded European history from the late 1400/early 1500. The same period as Benin.

So, I’m not sure what gap you’re talking about.

Oh! Perhaps you’re talking about the 100 years gap in favour of Yoruba — from when Ife was first penned down by the Arab traveler at a time when Benin was no where to be found.

TAO11:
I would make you cry today, @samuk: There are no Bini dullards here in case you’re wondering.

You thought you would peddle lies freely thinking everyone had gone.

TAO11:
Lol No, the Europeans visited Yorubaland before Benin.

Is there any reason why you keep lying to yourself?

And what point were you aiming at even if your lie had been true?

TAO11:
The Europeans would not dare penetrate the hinterland of the west Africa forest at a time when the knowledge of medicine was still at its infancy. The discovery of the first true antibiotic is only a very recent success.

They knew therefore that they were to settle in cities, town, or villages close to the coast. And the coastal area of the “Nigeria” region was not an exception.

They settled for these reasons along and around the coast and had their first contacts and continued relationships with the coastal Yorubas (Itsekiri, Aworis, and Ijebus) and then with Binis also after that.

Their latter heavy presence in Benin was due primarily to topographical reasons. The coast of Ughoton (unlike those of Lagos, Ijebu, and Ilaje) was way deeper, and thus easily serves as a natural harbour capable of taking their large ships.

Early approaches to the coast of Lagos were relatively more difficult due to sandbars. The Ijebu and Ilaje coasts had no access even comparable to that of Lagos.

In case you were wondering, the Europeans didn’t come to west Africa flying above the region with some airplanes from which they sighted Benin kingdom and decided to land. Naa![/size]

Cheers!

TAO11:
Yes, the hinterland of the West Africa forest in general was a breeding ground for malaria considering the higher concentration of mosquitos against which the Europeans have very low to zero immunity.

Areas closer to the coast and father from the hinterland were relatively safer.

In fact, Father Columbine de Nantes who visited Benin City in the early 1600s cited this reason (in one of his letters back home to the French authorities) as one of the advantages of basing their missionary center in Benin City.

He said “priests can live here with greater ease than in other parts of the Guinea because of the healthy climate”

Also, yes the first discovery of a TRUE antibiotic in the whole wide world wasn’t until very, very recently.

TAO11:
The Beni Style:

Recycle the already refuted lame points.

@Obalufon, don’t waste your time with this fraud — the refutation to his flood of tears is found on this same thread,

Samuk, enjoy your life in denial. What’s important is that Benin lies (including the ones you just attempted to reppedle) have been busted on this very thread.

And everyone is aware.

Obalufon:
Ife people were not only making beaautiful art sculptures from metals ,they were also smelting rocks ,making glass into ornament and intricate items like bowl and jeweries and beads the same glass making technique used in Egypt that is why most white scholars thought ile- Ife is extention of Egypt civilization ....We invented fast cothing weaving machine used by men faster than the female large cotton looming version which was also invented by us and introduced to our subsaharan Africa neighbor which prior were clothed in loins and hides or raffia like the ibos

TAO11:
The two Co-chairmen of the National Council of Traditional Rulers of Nigeria (NCTRN) know themselves, and they are:

(1) The Ooni of Ife presently in the person of HIM Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi.

and

.

(2) The Sultan of Sokoto presently in the person of Alhaji Dr. Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar.

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Others, including the Oba of Benin are mere floor members.

@Samuk is there anything you’ve ever typed on Nairaland which is not a lie ??

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TAO11:
The two Co-chairmen of the National Council of Traditional Rulers of Nigeria (NCTRN) know themselves, and they are:

(1) The Ooni of Ife presently in the person of HIM Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi.

and

I have consistently made my self clear that the Benin empire/kingdom ended in 1897. Benin was not the first empire/kingdom to come an end. Rome, Egypt and Greece were all once great empires that came to an end.

Whoever is the chairman and co chairman of today's Nigeria traditional rulers is irrelevant to the history of Benin which is cast in stone.

(2) The Sultan of Sokoto presently in the person of Alhaji Dr. Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar.

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Others, including the Oba of Benin are mere floor members.

@Samuk is there anything you’ve ever typed on Nairaland which is not a lie ??

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valirex:
It is well known bro only the facts you brought out is more than enough, they will only just keep ranting amongst themselves, the N, MB, SS, SE all know the truth and they can't change their minds

valirex:
Ọtemwen Iselogbe, you have really done a nice job now the world can know that priest that purports himself as king

TAO11:

Benin in the old days was more than squalid. It was gruesome. ... Benin was inconsiderable when compared with” Yorubaland

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TAO11:
Yes, the hinterland of the West Africa forest in general was a breeding ground for malaria considering the higher concentration of mosquitos against which the Europeans have very low to zero immunity.

Areas closer to the coast and father from the hinterland were relatively safer.

In fact, Father Columbine de Nantes who visited Benin City in the early 1600s cited this reason (in one of his letters back home to the French authorities) as one of the advantages of basing their missionary center in Benin City.

He said “priests can live here with greater ease than in other parts of the Guinea because of the healthy climate”

Also, yes the first discovery of a TRUE antibiotic in the whole wide world wasn’t until very, very recently.

Balogunodua:
Cheers!

TAO11:
Yes, the hinterland of the West Africa forest in general was a breeding ground for malaria considering the higher concentration of mosquitos against which the Europeans have very low to zero immunity.

Areas closer to the coast and father from the hinterland were relatively safer.

In fact, Father Columbine de Nantes who visited Benin City in the early 1600s cited this reason (in one of his letters back home to the French authorities) as one of the advantages of basing their missionary center in Benin City.

He said “priests can live here with greater ease than in other parts of the Guinea because of the healthy climate”

Also, yes the first discovery of a TRUE antibiotic in the whole wide world wasn’t until very, very recently.

TAO11:
The Europeans would not dare penetrate the hinterland of the west Africa forest at a time when the knowledge of medicine was still at its infancy. The discovery of the first true antibiotic is only a very recent success.

They knew therefore that they were to settle in cities, town, or villages close to the coast. And the coastal area of the “Nigeria” region was not an exception.

They settled for these reasons along and around the coast and had their first contacts and continued relationships with the coastal Yorubas (Itsekiri, Aworis, and Ijebus) and then with Binis also after that.

Their latter heavy presence in Benin was due primarily to topographical reasons. The coast of Ughoton (unlike those of Lagos, Ijebu, and Ilaje) was way deeper, and thus easily serves as a natural harbour capable of taking their large ships.

Early approaches to the coast of Lagos were relatively more difficult due to sandbars. The Ijebu and Ilaje coasts had no access even comparable to that of Lagos.

In case you were wondering, the Europeans didn’t come to west Africa flying above the region with some airplanes from which they sighted Benin kingdom and decided to land. Naa![/size]

Cheers!