₦airaland Forum

ziegurf:
Nna obu ebe ahu ka ina arahu ?

No, I was going towards Bank Road and I took a bus going to Amajeke from...You know the hold up in warehouse. So I was admiring the fine structure and all of a sudden, like water pouring down, the walls started falling down. If you look clearly the rods used for reinforcements are still there. What sort of demolition is that?

Okoyeeboz:
Direct your dumb lies to the other guy I quoted.

Unintelligent tales disgust me

Lololo. On what basis did you accept the version you swallowed? Why will the bulldozer even go through the middle section? How did it get into Freedom Square or was it done from Mbaris kitchen? Why demolish half way? Where are the photos by those claiming demolition? Can there be a demolishing exercise and Nigerians will not take photos as the process is going on? Lol. An eye witness is reporting but you choose to believe what you want to believe. I doubt you are even in Owerri to begin with.

grandstar:
The closer I look at Okorocha's projects, the word whacky comes to my mind. They scream substandard.

The monument was nice but as is usual with Rochas, his works are mediocre. Wethral roundabout was manageable until he tried to restructure the place. Now the place is messed up. Same thing with Douglas. He has fine ideas but because he is a crook both natures keep clashing and messing things up.

Godoverevery:
common sense require you back up ur claims.....

Commonsense also requires you analyse claims before accepting them. Are you accepting this because of the precedence the media has set or because you are convinced? Why do people purposely misinform? This is not fair.

Eteka1:
So you mean all the things Rochas built waited till he left office and then they started falling or collapsing on their own?

That's not true. The flyovers were already breaking apart when Rochas was around. The roads were been washed out that he blamed acidic rain. Even his own monuments were already breaking in his own time. Ihedioha could have done one or two but as for this one, I saw it with my very own eyes. No stories, no amount of spinning will change the truth.

Alamkir:
U want to tell me something dat has been their since, just decided to collapse 2 month after okorocha left

Exactly. It raises suspicion as well but that is what I saw. If someone tampered with it, I don't know but I believe the nonstop rain could also be responsible. There was no bulldozer, no body or any youth around doing any demolition. This is how fake news is born though.

Okoyeeboz:
The two of you should have a little meeting where you harmonise your lies before putting it out in public.

They are destroying his state and the idiot in the. second quote is calling it an operation.

What a pity! Ignorance is bliss. There was nothing like youths. There was no physical presence there. Not one person moving a muscle. But people often have an idea of what they want to believe though.

Godoverevery:
i guess you were there with ur phone at home while charging or you forgot you have phone to take photos or video the thing happened live like you claimed.
bro you sound delude.

Are you sure you are not the deluded one? Why do I need photos? To proof what exactly? And which photo convinced you otherwise?

durangokid:
. You are not well, you poor losers will continue to live with pain, Emeka Ihedioha e the governor of imo state and will be there for eight years, nothing you people can do about it, no amount propaganda and bad politics from you poor losers can move Emeka Ihedioha, somebody is telling you that the structure collapsed on it's own, you people are giving fake information purposely accusing innocent man, let me correct your mediocrity, as i was coming out from the election petition tribunal at orlu road there people I saw people gathering at the structure as it was being collapsing, as usual due to poor work know to be the legacy of the last government in imo, the wire Gus used as the base of the base of the moulding compressed and cave in, that is what happened

I think majority of these guys don't care. If I wasn't watching it when it collapsed I would have been confused with their lies as well. Immediately this happened I told someone that it will blamed on Ihedioha. I knew they will spin the story to suit their mischief.

The thing is that Rochas got many enemies. He messed up the lives of so many and this destruction could be either a result of his poor construction or a planned and gradual chiseling of the place. From stealing people's lands, destroying good rooads in the name of trying to modernize and messing them up, destroying markets, constructing cheap and poor structures to insulting the people in many ways like the chiefs he installed in owerri when there is already one central one etc

yipata:
How much were you paid to write this? Dont you have conscience? Your governor should keep destroying them... Its not his fault. I blame imolites. Instead of him to build on whats on ground and restructure it rightly for a better effect... He is destroying... Lol.

He is right. This Pull Him Imo down wrapped in the name of Ihedioha has to stop. Imo is not the only state in Nigeria and this propaganda will not work. The building collapsed on its own and these lies has to stop.

seanfer:
Fear God. How can you say this structure just collapse on its own. The Imo stage Governor is taking this hatred too far. I hope He will be able to stand what will come his way when all the political forces in Imo gang up against hi in 2023.

I was there live. I was watching the structure until it collapsed. I stopped and looked around for bulldozers but none was there. I was hundred percent sure this is how bloggers and mischievous fellows will report it.

I'm not saying I heard but I saw it live. I was looking at it five seconds before it collapsed and I'm hundred percent sure there was neither a bulldozer there nor men pulling it down. Except you want to tell us it was a dynamite inside remote controlled.

This is not a question of Ihedioha doing the deed. I've been watching social media and the news coming from my state have been inspired by a Pull Him Down Syndrome and it's not just about the Governor. Ihedioha is just 2 months but haters are everywhere wishing Imo doom and concocting lies.

Ask yourself where are the photos of the bulldozers? Who is reporting the story? How come none of the photos showed people doing the demolishing considering how much Nigerians love to capture occurring disasters? This is an open place not a hidden place like Akachi. I hope you are not one of the paid and unpaid agents helping to wreck Imo with propaganda.

Amaco123:
With the second picture you can see how dirty Owerri is today after spending millions on failed sanitation

How did the government demolish this? Were you there when it happened? From what angle did the bulldozer operate?

funshint:
But why all these now. This is a no no no..... You don't pour away the baby with the bathe water. For God sake what manner of hate is this?!

This is fake News. The guy reporting the story is confused.

But I witnessed this building collapse on it's own. I was looking at it before it collapsed and I checked to be sure no bulldozer was around. I knew bloggers will tell the story this way. I saw this with my very own eyes going down at around 10:45 am without interference from anyone. Why are you guys like this?

This is just one of the death traps built by Rochas and the incessant 'acidic' rain must have been responsible. I even wonder how some persons ply those dead things he called tunnels. Rochas has a bright mind but he is a thief. He is the result you get when a revolutionary is also a criminal.

SLAP44:
Which is your state ?

Imo

SLAP44:
If Igbo people rule Nigeria for 8 years with a good constitution, Britain, USA and Germany will be begging us for visa to come and see development.

Nonsense! And the states are ruled by aliens I guess.

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Seun, why can't you stop this nonsense? Are you okay with what these guys are doing here? Have you given up on this forum? Why exactly do you allow these guys to mess up this forum, Seun?

tayebest:
Use of plastics can't be totally banned, the government just need to control the production rate and allow recycling to flourish in the country. Las las everything will be alright.

.No country is free from environment menace it just depend on how it is approached

Be alright how exactly? We are killing earth and doing nothing about it but for some strange reason we believe we will be alright. How exactly? Even as developed as America and Western Europe they are treating this menace with carelessness. We will surely destroy the earth by our actions and inactions and wherever we relocate to, Mars or any planet, will suffer similar fate until we are wiped out.

Rossikk:
I said the ethnic hate displayed on Nairaland was exaggerated and does not reflect the true situation across Nigeria. I maintain that position. 99% of Nigerians get along just fine.

Nairaland? We were never talking about Nairaland. Go back and read the post.

One of the most useless places you can be in Nigeria. I was there and I know the trash they swallow in the name of discipline.

aseosa:
THAT IS WHY HE SENT HIS SON US TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD.

JESUS CLEARLY SAID HE CAME FOR THE SINNERS NOT THE RIGHTEOUS ONES.
AND HE CAME TO CONDEM THE EVIL MEN DO. NOT TO PRAISE THE THEM

Okay. I no get power abeg.

DavidEsq:
U failed to quote it, bro

Quote what? The bible? The truth is, remove the fear of hell so many people will give up on Religion in Nigeria. Personally I've come to the conclusion that if such a place exists for someone like me for simply not worshipping a God, I'm willing to be be there. I can't worship such person even if I know the penalty is hell. That's wickedness and I'm not willing to bow to it. Such a person can't be good and it is a good deed to suffer in the hands of an evil man.

DavidEsq:
No we can't, cos the scriptures says "the dead know nothing at all", neither do they have thoughts. See Ecclesiastics 9:5,6. Let's look at the scriptures u have analysed to arrive at this conclusion. Shoot pls.

We can't but the same scripture talks about a place of suffering for those who don't worship God? The truth is, so many of you are better than God but you are afraid of admitting it. God's story is filled with Genocide and even though we insult Hitler, we glorify Mohammed and Yahweh, two warmongers, and the society pretends it's fine. In a very civilsed society, admitting to be a follower of Mohammed or Yahweh should get one locked up. It is like loving Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Mobutu, Amin, Nguema or any of those monsters whose unfortunate existence put off the lights in many lives.

DavidEsq:
I appreciate ur analytic mind. However let's start with the first bolden: why can't God help the poor? In other words, why is there suffering? The answer to this poser lies in what happened at the beginning of life on earth. Genesis 1:31 says: "After that God saw everything he had made, and look! it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning a sixth day". Genesis 2:15-16 says: Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it. 16 Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction". This tells us that life on earth was cosy, no suffering or poverty, the bible says God's desire was that man was to have a life of satisfaction. So suffering was never part of God's plan for man. What then happened that suffering came into the world?
Genesis 2:17 says: "But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die". Now man wa given a law by God. So long as man continued to obey that law, he continued to accept God as his Sovereign, and as the one who had the right to rule over him by giving him laws. Why couldn't man make his laws, independent of God's control? Well the answer lies in the same reason u determine for ur child what is in his best interest because u love him and and wish him well. In fact, Isaiah 48:17(b) says: I, Jehovah, am your God,The One teaching you to benefit yourself,The One guiding you in the way you should walk". It means God's laws are in our best interests. Now based on wat we have seen so far, man knew wat he would do to remain cosy, just like ur child knows from wat u instruct him. Do u cause the consequences of ur child's disobedience? I think not. So wat happened na? This is it: in Genesis 3:4-5 says: At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad." what exactly was Satan saying to the woman? That she should disobey God's instructions. And if she did, she would be like God, knowing good and bad. What was it to "know good and bad" in this context? Certainly, it didn't mean recognising wrong from right. This is because man already knew wat he shouldn't do and wat he shld do. He even knew the consequences of doing wat was bad. In fact, if dis was wat the devil meant, then he would have been caught in his lie by the woman. Wat the devil was saying to Eve was dat "if she ate the fruit, she would become a god to herself, deciding for herself, wat was good and bad". That is she would be a ruler to herself and would no longer need God to give her laws. The devil made the fruit look like the only thing that stood between Eve and a godlike personality, where she exercised to decide for herself, wat was right and wrong. That was verse 6 tells us that the "woman saw that the fruit was pleasing to the eyes". Why was it so important that that fruit was the subject matter of the discussion/temptation? This is because the fruits of that tree represented the only law that God gave to man and as long as man stayed away from eating that fruit, he continued to accept God's standards of wat is right and wat is wrong, just as ur child accepts u a his guide, each time he obeys ur instructions. As soon as man chose to eat that fruit, he rejected God's standards of wat is right and wat is wrong. Consequently, he accepted the devil's own standards that man doesn't need God but can rule over himself with his own set of laws and standards. Just like a child decides to do his bidding and becomes independent of his father's control. Was the devil right? Wat was the consequence of man's action? Romans 5:12 answers that question: it says: "That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—". So suffering came into the world as a result of man's action and the deceiver became the controller of world/man's life (compare 1 John 5:19). God never forced himself on man. Why would we be affected when we are not Adam? Well, take for example, u have two sons who u send abroad to get a better life: one stays obedient, but the other doesn't. If both sons have children in their respective circumstances, wouldn't their respective circumstances affect their kids? O yeah. This is the ultimate cause of world events of poverty. However, there are other reasons for this poverty. Let's talk about them shortly and u would see that they all come back to the beginning. Oh yes, even government policies today.

All these quotes are not necessary. I use to do same. I was in the Evangelical ministry too and even on this forum I defended God but a time comes when we have to shed every mental slavery and if we are honest enough we can go through. The fear is hell is what holds most people here.

You failed to see the hypocrisy I'm pointing on the part of God. God said he gave the freewill and wouldn't interfere in their affairs except they call on him and I'm wondering why when he finally decided to go against man's freewill he destroyed man with water. It doesn't make sense.

There are so many inconsistencies with the story. I mean who puts temptation in the garden if he knows the outcome of everything? If he doesn't know, how then is he omniscient? The entire creation story does not make sense to me except it is allegorical.

See the suffering around and compare how much you want to help with how God wants to. He speaks of helping the poor but he doesn't and when we do people give him the credit but when we don't we are called stingy. God wins either way.

Let me ask you this question and I hope you can provide an answer. The question is:

If God is so great and omniscient and operates in the highest level of perfection, why would he create us? I think creating us will be to satisfy a need and he bears a need that means he is not perfect as claimed. Why would the richest, the most powerful and the most fulfilled man create something new? Is he still qualified to bear these titles?

aseosa:
The Bible says according to THE SAYING OF GOD. GOD SAID "" I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHO I WANT TO HAVE MERCY ON AND COMPARSSION ON WHO I WANT TO HAVE COMPARSSION ON.""

That's sentiments and when you begin to bring that into Justice you mess up everything. Today our President does same thing and we despise him but if it God we make excuses for him. Truth is, there is nothing compassionate about the God of the old testament. He is more like a crude, proud bushman whose uncivilized behavior wrecked the minds of his creation. And this creation are too trapped in the mental prison to see it. There is nothing merciful about Yahweh. Maybe Jesus but not Yahweh or Allah.

Omudia11:
You know why? Because He is God and the custodian and owner of all things.
You don't tell God what to do on his planet and world just like your neighbor wouldn't tell you what to do in your house.

If you think God is not doing a good job why don't you create your own universe to live in? Oh! And first you must give him your body, soul and spirit first because this one you have is his.

Does this make any sense to you? So because he is God his immorality is not immorality? This is what Religion does to people. Not only does it promote an inferior sense of Justice, it puts so much fear into their hearts that is enough to abominate sound reasoning? Why create conscious thinking beings if you want zombies? The truth is, you are simply what you are because of colonization and your parents choice. An IFA worshipper will argue same before colonization happened.

Omudia11:
So God who came down to die for sinners was not a good person. Lmao.

Do you know that as a human being,
rats , flies, chickens ,other animals etc see you as a devil because you kill them? Does that mean you're a devil?

Can you now see that you don't have sense?

Your analogy is weak. Your analogy makes Vegetarians better than God. Try something else.

kelvinnaira:
Ibeg.. Someone please let me know why this man is being held.. To be sincere, I dont even know how this issue started.. All I see is shiites protest here and there. Wh o is he and why was he arrested pls.?

Google "Zaria Massacre"

simplesearch:
Government built prisons all over the Nation not because they want anybody to offend or break the law and be incarcerated there,
unfortunately some are even sent their for life. Is that not preemptive or a good ground to accuse the government of being complicit?
In similar vein are exams invented so people could fail? the answer is simple No, Do we then fold our arms without making any effort to succeed because the intention is not to fail us but to facilitate our progress? We prepare for success assiduously and sometimes burn the night candle to achieve our goal and secure our future, do we give same attention to knowing God and his word? God never intended any human being end up in hell, Jesus specifically said the place was created for the devil and his rebellions Demon/Angels alike, Read Matt 25:41. Don't waste precious time meditating on consequences of actions that is not imposed on you, It is wisdom to leave what is not within your capacity to control while focusing only on things within your control. Now what are the things within your control?
1. You can repent and confess your sins to God right now, and you'll receive eternal abundant life from God and Joy and grace in your heart.
2. You can Read the Bible to know what is God's will for you in every situation.
3. You can Resist every temptation to do evil and act right!

You are sure to end well by his grace, Hellfire like human prison is not meant for you, once you are a good citizen no prison sentence for you whether on temporal or permanent basis. sometimes in this world there could be a mix up or miscarriage of justice due to human error that get innocent people into problem and turn them prisoners, not so with omniscient God, you cant serve him according to his word and go to hell by mistake.

But it's God we are talking about not some mediocre government that can't see the mind of the man or the potential evil in him. God, according to the bible, is not a man but an all-knowing entity. Hell can't be the best solution. And we are growing to a level that countries like Norway, rather than suffer or guillotine murderers, feed them, clothe them, and try to help them become better people through rehabilitation programs. Ander Brevick is an example. And hell is the best an omniscient God can offer? It doesn't make sense.

DavidEsq:
My dear and reasonable friend, ur reasoning is very apt. However, the concept of hell fire is alien to God. In fact, every teaching of hell is self-contradictory. God does not burn ppl with fire at all. In fact, it would first of all, contradict the freedom of man to choose between two but opposite forms of actions. I could prove it to u from the scriptures, if u don't mind

From scriptures? What exactly will that change? That the murders are necessary? Why can't God help the poor but can wipe out nations? If you want to respect their freewill why end the world in Noah's time with flood? If one chooses not to use their power to do good in the name of freewill, what will we call such a person when he or she uses his power to mess up the place? God is not a good person. Tell yourself the truth. You are better than this guy.

DavidEsq:
My dear and reasonable friend, ur reasoning is very apt. However, the concept of hell fire is alien to God. In fact, every teaching of hell is self-contradictory. God does not burn ppl with fire at all. In fact, it would first of all, contradict the freedom of man to choose between two but opposite forms of actions

Then we can replace hell with eternal suffering and it wouldn't make much difference. Our hearts bleed when we are powerless about the poor around us. We are saddened when people do crazy things. We despise jealousy and pride. Even when men like Mayweather who can help his environment misbehave, we are broken. But God is guilty of all these things but rather than complain we worship him.