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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 7:33pm On Jan 15, 2010
BlueDiva:
Pull out the stats.
The margin must be very small.
Do i need to pull out anything?
U forget there was a period Real Madrid shunned the Galacticos for moderate transfer fees?
With expensive flops like Sheva, Ferreira, Veron, Mutu, SWP, Crespo, etc. . . .U don't have a prayer. grin

CFC has outperformed Madrid in the past 4 seasons.
City with all the money won't win the nada this season.

It ain't all about the Benjamin's.
How so?
Chelsea won 2 league titles, Madrid won 2 league titles.
How did Chelsea outperform Madrid? What other meaningful title did you win between 2003-2009(Roman era).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 7:21pm On Jan 15, 2010
BlueDiva:
^^^^^
Be real son.
Even Madrid doesn't win it every season with their super stars.
Chelsea have more expensive players than Real Madrid between 2004-2009.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 7:03pm On Jan 15, 2010
BlueDiva:
We were your closest rival.
Now we're ready to take back our cup.
Closest rival?
United have beaten Chelsea to the title 11 times in 17 seasons in the Premiership era.
How can you assemble a squad of almost £700 million since the Roman era and you ninnys cannot win the league title every season?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 6:55pm On Jan 15, 2010
BlueDiva:
Sauron is the Arrow.
If it ain't Italy, Brazil, Germany or France, don't brag.
U must have testicles in your brain . . . . .
The fact that your club have the world's most expensive flops should not make you hate on Berbatov.
He is the first Bulgarian to win the English league and the highest goal scorer of all time for his country.
Name someone in the whole Chelsea team in Europe that is the highest goal scorer for his country. . . .

Who gives a bleep about Bulgaria.
If na Portugal sef i go here.
Same as who gives a Bleep about Chelsea. . . . .
A team worth £700 million that cannot win a league title in 3 consecutive seasons is a disgrace. grin grin grin grin
Until you flog Ballack off to Coventry FC, his bad luck will continue to harm Chelsea FC.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 6:48pm On Jan 15, 2010
dayokanu:
Who reckons with Bulgaria BTW, The last time Bulgaria played a world cup, Bill Clinton was American president.

How is he different from David Healy?
The last time Bayern played a Champions League semi-final, the twin towers were still standing. grin grin grin grin grin
Blimey. . . . . .50 cent had $0 in his personal account the last time Bayern played in the final of a UCL. . .now he's worth $600 million.
Go figure!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 6:38pm On Jan 15, 2010
BlueDiva:
So what? Bulgaria ain't a country to reckon with.
Why hasn't Drogba won it 6 times with Ivory Coast?
Abi Ivory Coast na country to reckon with? Silly Arrow!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 6:11pm On Jan 15, 2010
Dimitar Berbatov Enters Bulgarian Record Books
Manchester United attacker Dimitar Berbatov has been rewarded for his form in 2009 and has been voted Bulgaria's Footballer of the Year for the sixth time in his career.

Berbatov finished ahead of Aston Villa's Stilian Petrov and Terek Grozny midfielder Blagoy Georgiev.

The 28-year-old helped United to Premier League glory and played a role in his side's League Cup success as well. Additionally, he became Bulgaria's all-time topscorer last year with a brace against Malta.

"I'm proud to have won the accolade for a sixth time," said Berbatov. "Last year was a successful one for me as I won the English title with Manchester United and I became Bulgaria's record goalscorer. This makes me smile."

Berbatov has now entered the record books by winning the Footballer of the Year award again, surpassing the achievement of former Barcelona star Hristo Stoichkov.
https://www.dirtytackle.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/dimitar-berbatov-driving-tractor.jpg
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 5:54pm On Jan 15, 2010
sleek417:
whoever plays behind him, he must score

besides, Valencia must play against Burnley and Hull
my FPL pts must rise
We will beat Burnley.
The lads went to Qatar to clear their heads.
One week in the sun is enough to clear their heads.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 5:51pm On Jan 15, 2010
sleek417:
i hope he scores tmr or hes in soup
Play Carrick + Fletcher + Anderson behind Berbatov and he will create and score goals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 5:40pm On Jan 15, 2010
RuuDie:
All Berbatov-haters. . . . eat your hearts out; Mr. Cool cool will be on UTD's starting line-up as long as he remains a UTD a player. grin grin

He lacks conviction eh huh Here's someone willing to play inspite of whatever pains grin

UP BERBATOV cool grin
https://www.dirtytackle.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/berbacool.jpg
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. by Sauron1: 2:28am On Jan 15, 2010
GAYnners and madness co-existing. grin grin grin grin
Crack on, lads.
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 8:11pm On Jan 14, 2010
jay bee:
i would have expected a union between an MIT and a yale graduate to yield class orientation. The IB's that i know would have chattered a plane and fly the guests to the exotic location where the wedding is going down.
Hehehehe.

sleek417:
wedding costs are divided into 3

pre-wedding costs- wedding planner
                               security
                               hall

wedding cost itself -highlighted above

post weddin costs- honeymoon and probably a gift for ya wifey

MC? i can do any MC, i dont need a baba suwe to give me dry jokes
music - Gimme a DJ and Asa- how much will that go for

the thing is all these money no go come from ma pocket alone

my mum n dad, my wife n her parents, my uncles and aunts and then myself

as i dey see am , ill need like 5m

chei shocked shocked shocked na by force?
5 million from your side alone, shey?
How much will the gross expenditure be?
I wanna know the amount of money that will cover for all the 3 phases of the wedding cost.
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 7:51pm On Jan 14, 2010
sleek417:
ill spend 300k for clothes
150k for video n pictures
1m for food
1m for drinks
500k for hall
500k for sundries

how much be dat?

like 3.5m
What about travelling costs? Honeymoon and Paris(for costumes)
MC(Basket Mouth/Ali-Baba or Osuofia). grin
Musician(KSA or KWAM-1).
Accommodation(your guests/friends/relative).
TravelRe: Is Living Abroad Worth It? by Sauron1: 7:35pm On Jan 14, 2010
stillwater:
Add the one where you have to go and fetch water and nearly fall inside the well because there's water scarcity. angry angry
Depressing!!

Sagamite:
^^^My body tra-anga. Which kin ICU?
There is no way I go to Naija every year without visiting a Buka. I make sure the chairs are wooden and the interior is full of charcoal. Even if I no see at least one rat, I no go pay for that food. I need to top up my germs before this clean, hygienic and germ-free environment kill me.
I am not ready to die, I need to train my immune system like a professional athlete.  grin
U don't pay until you see those gutter rats? Na wa o.
Naija people are striving to maintain clean and germ-free environment and Sagamite is running away from it.
One man's meat is another man's cyanide.
TravelRe: Is Living Abroad Worth It? by Sauron1: 7:03pm On Jan 14, 2010
Sagamite:
I know what you are talking about.
But in Naija, some cost that in the West are exorbitant and compulsory, are a choice.
The killers are council tax and car tax. This do not that expensive in Naija and people get on.
Lemme bust this myth.
There are tenement rates in Naija. . . . .People pay to have their bins disposed, NEPA kick asses even if you pay your bills in time.
Vigilantes collect money from housing residents, Street-lights are non-existent. U have to provide your flood-lights to light up your surroundings.
The thing is. . . . . .Naija people pay for the things they don't even get to enjoy 24/7 whilst UK residents pay for the things they enjoy.
Who is indeed better off?

Even if you work in the city, you would be spending close to £1100 a year on lunch and another £1300 on travelcard. I don't think it can cost up to N275K a year for lunch in Naija at the Iya Basira bukas I like to go to to replenish my bacteria levels. Neither do I think it would cost me N325K for my transportation.
Replenishing your bacteria levels can send you to the ICU in Naija. Typhoid Fever is alive and kicking.
If it's not typhoid, it could be Diarrhoea or what not.
What about the scores of mosquitoes that won't let you be. If your genotype is AA. . . .Expect Malaria fever 5 times a year. grin grin

£1300 in travelcard per year is not such a bad thing. Bankers in Naija leave their homes as early as 4 am to avoid traffic congestion. grin cheesy
In the UK, no hold-up, no danger of crashing into the Lagoon or getting kicked off your Okada seat by a drunk driver in a Lagos Danfo.
Fuel scarcity is not going to hinder you from getting to the City. . . . .No stress levels at all.
I think i can live with £1300 per year. That's about £110 per month and less than £4 per day.
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 6:56pm On Jan 14, 2010
sleek417:
ol boi, some bankers are gettin sacked

na diff strokes o cheesy
So how much you go spend for your wedding?
Traditional, Church, Reception and Honeymoon. grin
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 6:48pm On Jan 14, 2010
sleek417:
Sauron
1naira is different from 15naira

if u understand wht i mean cheesy
Any penny earned apart from your normal salary is a bonus.
In this current climate, majority are having their wages/salaries slashed and you rapacious bankers are sharing massive bonuses.
God dey. cry
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 6:44pm On Jan 14, 2010
sleek417:
are u kidding me
did u see ma bank balance grin grin
Ma company offers support to Deloitte. grin

u must be kidding; the bonus last year was a fraction of 2008
2008 was the year of manna
unlimited manna
Bonus na bonus. grin cheesy
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 6:39pm On Jan 14, 2010
oyb:
in these days of meltdown ?
Meltdown ke?
U think everybody is feeling this pinch?
Bankers shared bonuses throughout last year.

TKB417 got a massive bonus last year(part of it was YOUR money). grin
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 6:32pm On Jan 14, 2010
jay bee:
i bet u will agree with me that all those were probably proceed of credit card runs. Even dangote won't spend his money like that.
Credit card runs ke?
When the groom is an Investment Banker(MIT graduate). . . .Bride is a Lawyer in the City(Yale Graduate).
Omo. . . .U need to expand your horizon abeg.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Fan Thread! We Are The Red Devils! by Sauron1: 6:31pm On Jan 14, 2010
RuuDie:
thank God SAF doesn't think like u!!!
If SAF thinks like Allboyz, United woulda been demoted to the Conference League.
Wenger thinks like Allboyz and you can see why they haven't won rubber since 2005.
It's now 2010. grin

There's a bet on WilliamHill.

Fabregas Vs Gerrard. . . . .First to win a league title? grin grin grin grin

Odds.
Cesc(10/1)
Gerrard(19/2)
None(1/cool
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 6:26pm On Jan 14, 2010
oyb:
i bet hes vexing at sanusi for scattering the banks
sauron for just organize one billion naira loan for wedding  cheesy cheesy
debosky:
Yeah right - after all that, all he'll be able to afford is a [i]panda [/i]key chain to use as a ring. grin
All of una too cheap for ma liking, abeg!!!!
TravelRe: Is Living Abroad Worth It? by Sauron1: 6:18pm On Jan 14, 2010
Sagamite:
No, you have to judge based on cost of living.
How much disposable income does one have at the end of the day and what can it get one.
I think someone earning £40K in Naija is far better off than someone earning £50K in UK.
A nice flat in Naija can cost about £4K per year, an equivalent one in UK would be exceeding £12K.
I disagree.
Of course, the take home pay makes it look like the one in Naija is far better off but if you check the quality of life and other indices, it's a facade.
£50k in the UK is miles ahead of the £40k dude in Nigeria. I can guarantee you he spends half of the £40k he earns on things the Naija government should be providing in the first place.

jay bee:
haba Mr Stats
Cost of living on £18k per annum here is not comparable to cost of living on N4.5mil
£18k per annum will give u a take home of roughly 1k per month after tax
factoring all the necessary expexpenditures will probably be left with £300 max (assuming the person turns a blind eye to the 10% tithe thingy and live absolutely consconservativelyoughout the month)
Ignore the take home pay and lets concentrate on what Mr. Naija and Mr. UK spend their money on.
I don't have to take ma car to the mechanic every weekend cos of pot-hole problems or ma car overheating blowing a gasket.
I don't buy fuel @ Black Market rate to fuel the generator n  ma car. What about the intangibles like Noise Pollution, Smog, Security of Lives n Properties.
Do you need a Hausa Maiguard in London? People earning N4.5 milla in Naija need them to secure their income, properties and their lives.
At the end of it all, Mr. Naija is poorer than the dude in London.

but some[one earning close to N300K after tax in naija is a super big boi cos 1 month salary alone can pay for the years rent in some places.
Nigeria is cheap but the reason why western world will always come up thruthumpscos of the other necessities we enjoy that money can't simply buy.
What is the standard of these cribs?
Borehole? Electricity? Portable Internet? Effective house-phone? Portable Gas?
Are you factoring those? Do i have to boil water on the gas-cooker to shower?
Mosquitoes? Do i have to worry about those?

If u consider the intangibles, i am better off with £18k in the UK than the equivalent in Nigeria.
Jaybee, i ask you. . . . .When was the last time you opened the bonnet of your car for any fault in the UK?
RomanceRe: How Much Must A Man Have To Be Ready For Marriage? by Sauron1: 6:08pm On Jan 14, 2010
aysometin:
@ Sauron,
Please ensure you invite me for your wedding o!! I can't miss such, I mean £40,000!! I'll be there life and direct but would you please buy me a nice dress from House of Fraser from your budget?? Because with that amount, it appears you want to clothe the guests and pay for our transportation ( whatever the means)
Noted!!!!
Nice dress from House of Fraser?
The last wedding i attended, the couple gave out 19 inch TVs, Microwave Ovens and Portable DVD players to their guests.
Christ. . . . .I have been to grand weddings, not guguru n epa nonsense wedding and i am 100% certain that mine won't be any less grand.

Meldrick:
@Sauron
Most people who spend such huge amount you quoted divorce the next year.
I disagree.
People who spend little amount have the highest divorce rate.
Poverty n Happiness cannot co-exist. grin
TravelRe: Is Living Abroad Worth It? by Sauron1: 5:59pm On Jan 14, 2010
Sagamite:
The way I see it:

If you are making less than £18K, you are poor.

If you are making between £18K and £32K, you are managing.

If you are making between £32K and £50K, you are comfortable.

If you are making between £50K and £85K, you are doing good.

If you are making between £85K and £200K, you are a star.

If you are making above £200K, you are a superstar.
People making the equivalent of £18k per annum in Nigeria are rich.
That's about N4.5 million per annum and this is why i think the poorest man abroad is almost a STAR in Nigeria.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Steven Gerrard And Frank Lampard Who Is Better At Their Respective Club? by Sauron1: 5:48pm On Jan 14, 2010
Una still dey here?

South Africa will give us another chance to assess Lampard/Gerrard once more. . . .but it's no brainer that Lampard whups Gerrard's behind.
Lets freeze this debate until summer.

@ Sauron,

Now Gerrard is out of the FA Cup.  grin grin grin
Oh Xabi Alonso, where art thou?
It was inevitable.
U need to see how RAWKITES were cursing Gerrard last night.
One fan said. . . Never, have I felt so low as a Liverpool fan as I have tonight. The team were spineless, gutless and showed no measure of character whatsoever and that's what hurts the most.
There are so many sub-standard players out there. Insua, Lucas, Ngog and Babel to name but four. But for me, Gerrard is starting to fuckin get on my [b]t[/b]its. Bottom lip is firmly out and that's no fuckin way for a captain to behave, let alone the captain of this club. If he expects to play with world class players every week, then fuckoff to Madrid because frankly your petulant arm throwing and dagger-esque looks are doing nobody any favours. Yes we can understand your frustration, but Bleep me, there are plenty of better ways to show it.

What another bleeping sh.it week for the soap opera that is Liverpool FC.
Shankly must be spinning in his grave at the set of wankers currently inhabiting Anfield. The whole club is a mess from the two cunts at the top, to Rafa's bizzarre and frankly, tiresome, backing of sub-standard players and to those players who clearly have chucked their toys out the pram. Frankly I'm ashamed to be a fan of the club at this present time. Anyone see the lad crying at the end?
Perhaps they ought to bleeping show that to this shower just to reinforce how much this club means to people.
Sorry for the rant, and post-match is probably not wise to come on here, but my emotion has got the better of me. A very, very, depressed Red!

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