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euromilion:
Good job my man.

Bros can u give me contact of sand suppliers.

Thanks.

your location?

MatinoOnoja

Initially I just wanted to reply ur statement on cost.. But let me add a few on the building.

1. Visitors toilet is very important in modern times, in a worst case senirio the guest room is designed WITHOUT the toilet and bath ensuite so visitors can use it too (saves cost and space)

2. No ARCHITECT can design a functional 4-Bedroom flat ON YOUR LAND SIZE and all rooms would be cross ventilated (emphasis on YOUR LAND SIZE) so it's perfectly OK to have Bedroom 2 with one window.

3. There is no rule that says all rooms must be ensuite - That's why Architects ask for clients brief, we can only advice but once a client insist for example on having 2 rooms share toilet - we achieve that in the best possible way.

4. A store don't necessarily need a window, good if u have it, but if space don't permit not bad.

5. Laundry is not a must, in Africa we wash outside - it's a factor of clients brief, want or space... If you consider it important, ask for one - why is No1 asking u to introduce a study? It's important to also have a space where u can work without disturbance at home, but if like I say, a client dont see its need, you don't need to provide it.... Same applies to laundry.

* My reply is based on people's comment rather than the design itself...

Good Luck

ediscuss:
Honestly I like the technical input of all the comments.
Please can Someone say something about the budget especially this period and times of economic torbulence?

See the post above urs...

MatinoOnoja:
i humbly request for professional and constructive critics from experts in this forum. my budget is 3.5million naira and this is going to be my first personal building project. the land is 45ft by 100ft, very flat & dry. my friend (civil Engr) used power point to make the sketch for me. he`s okay with my decision to seek more inputs from this forum. thanks in advance.

3.5 m can't build you this house thou - Even when materials were much cheaper, how much now that everything has gone up...

Budget more.

And my son too....

clip:
You men are doing great work here. Thank you all for the information

Thanks, you need to see the continuation here: https://www.nairaland.com/3523256/how-build-comfortable-house-earning

part 2.

euromilion and royalnose - i saw the notification of your PM but i couldn't find it in my mail - I've tried re-sending a PM to you. thanks

See my signature below. thanks

better safe than sorry

No8: Plastering of walls (Internal & External)

For plastering - we'll generate a rate for 1m2 of space and multiple by our total surface area (Perimeter of internal spaces + Perimeter of external walls; the total multiplied by 3m (height of building). A second method would be to get an approximate cost using the rate charged by bricklayers for daily work and remove discount. Lets do the maths.

IN FIGURES:
Workmanship:
Total Square Area of Surfaces = [3 x (External wall + Internal wall)] - (Area of doors + Area of windows) = 370m2 approx
Rate per m2 = Company rate is 350 / m2

Workmanship = 129.5K since i'm giving the job out in bulk (at once) I'll claim discount and pay about 100k

LETS RECALCULATE USING DAILY RATE:
In this method; the bricklayer charges about N4500 for 2 walls (minus dressing of openings) which is about 20m2 i.e we have 370/20 daily works = N84K BUT thats for the surfaces only - they usually charge a days work for 2 windows (doors would sort themselves out once you install architrave) hence; 20 windows = 4500*20/2 = 4500*10 = 45k lets add up.

Workmanship = N84k + 45k = 129k (If you're plastering in bits ie you ask them to plaster a room this week and return the following week for another room, as you get fund; then this method applies to you can you cant get discount - you might even pay more)

Materials Needed:
Plaster Sand = Buy 40 tonnes of sand i.e 2 tippers = (25k x 2) in Ikorodu find out how much it cost in your area.
Cement = Lets generate an estimate based on our second method above; You need about 3 bags for 2 walls ie 3 bag for 20m2 of surface.

Hence: 370/20 x 3 bags = 18.5 x 3 = 55 bags (add 10% for waste and dressing) = 60 bags approx @ 2350 = 141k

Water = At this stage you should have alternative sources of water other than buying in bits eg borehole, rain water stored in your septic tank but if not then budget for buying)

Always budget for miscellaneous; lets allow 50k in this section.

Grand Total: N370,000:00K (Three Hundred and Twenty Thousand Naira Only)


DEPENDING ON ADDITIONAL DETAILS, YOU MIGHT NEED TO INCREASE YOUR BUDGET i.e Details like Window Hoods, POP designs to windows, arc-ways etc

Good Luck.


To Be Continued:
Stay Tuned.... THANKS.

MrDraey:
morning everyone. glad i stumbled accross this thread. this plan of yours, please what's the room sizes? im planning on starting something like this in few months time

send me a pm via NL or how i can contact u.. thanks

Ok

Issokay

wtfCode:
Thumbs up.
Crown tiles have better qualities,more high temperature resistance n more sound proofing ability.
Op pls what's the cost of stone coated roofing tiles per sqm?

Thanks - on cost (i'll have to make a call)

Hi All - A follower asked for comparison between him using LONG SPAN and NIGERITE CROWN TILES in respect to cost implication.
Our calculation was based on a particular 3 bedroom design; the different factors in the roofing was:

1. In the Crown Tile we required double the PURLINS needed compared to the Aluminum Long Span.
2. The total surface area to be covered was 190m2

The Calculation is Shared below:


CROWN TILES VS LONG SPAN ROOFING (COST)

The Crown Tiles comes in sizes of 420mm x 320mm; this implies that there would be an increase in the numbers of purlin (2x3 - hardwood) used by 50%. The reason is simple:

While Long Span come factory cut to required length of buyer (hypotenuse) of the roof, allowing a standard spacing of about 750mm - 900mm; the Crown Tiles come in already cut smaller sizes, hence closer spacing is required at about 270mm - 300mm hence the doubling.

From the Aluminum Calculation we had: Purlin (2x3) = 65 @ N450 = 29250 we will just double that to:

A. Purlin (2x3) = 130 pcs @ N450 = N58,500:00K

B. Cost of Roofing with Crown Tiles:

What quantity of this product would we need to cover the 190m2 space generated from our attached design?

0.42 * 0.32 = 0.1344 ( in a meter square we have about 8pcs ) but remember they lap over each others so we end up using 10 pcs per meter square.

Hence if 10 pcs covers 1m2; we have 10 pcs x 190m2 = 1900 pcs to be brought. (Always add for waste 10% on this occasion) = Approx 2000 pcs

Cost of One Crown Tile = N305 hence; Total Cost of Roofing Tiles = N610,000

NOTE: Cost of Roof Covering using ALUMINUM LONG SPAN WAS = N2200 x 190 = 418,000

The Eaves and Facial board being covered with Aluminum in the previous calculation resulted in an overall cost of N867,300

COST DIFFERENCE:

TOTAL COST IN ALUMINUM = N418,000 + N29,250 (Roof covering + Purlin) = N447,250 : 00k
TOTAL COST IN CROWN TILES = N610,000 + N58,500 (Roof covering + Purlin) = N668,500 : 00k

MY VERDICT:


QUALITY ALUMINUM (0.55mm thick) IS CHEAPER.


GOOD-LUCK

pics: Crown Tile and Long Span

@ seunoj

CROWN TILES VS LONG SPAN ROOFING (COST)

We already dealt with Aluminum roofing on Page 1 of this thread so we would only calculate the cost of using Crown Tiles.

The Crown Tiles comes in sizes of 420mm x 320mm; this implies that there would be an increase in the numbers of purlin (2x3 - hardwood) used by 50%. The reason is simple:

While Long Span come factory cut to required length of buyer (hypotenuse) of the roof, allowing a standard spacing of about 750mm - 900mm; the Crown Tiles come in already cut smaller sizes, hence closer spacing is required at about 270mm - 300mm hence the doubling.

From the Aluminum Calculation we had: Purlin (2x3) = 65 @ N450 = 29250 we will just double that to:

A. Purlin (2x3) = 130 pcs @ N450 = N58,500:00K

B. Cost of Roofing with Crown Tiles:

What quantity of this product would we need to cover the 190m2 space generated from our attached design?

0.42 * 0.32 = 0.1344 (in a meter square we have about 8 pcs but remember they lap over each others so we end up using 10 pcs per meter square.

Hence if 10 pcs covers 1m2; we have 10 pcs x 190m2 = 1900 pcs to be brought. (Always add for waste 10% on this occasion) = Approx 2000 pcs

Cost of One Crown Tile = N305 hence; Total Cost of Roofing Tiles = N610,000

NOTE: Cost of Roof Covering using ALUMINUM LONG SPAN WAS = N2200 x 190 = 418,000

The Eaves and Facial board being covered with Aluminum in the previous calculation resulted in an overall cost of N867,300

COST DIFFERENCE:

TOTAL COST IN ALUMINUM = N418,000 + N29,250 (Roof covering + Purlin) = N447,250 : 00k
TOTAL COST IN CROWN TILES = N610,000 + N58,500 (Roof covering + Purlin) = N668,500 : 00k

MY VERDICT:

QUALITY ALUMINUM (0.55mm thick) IS CHEAPER.


GOOD-LUCK

* I'll open a new thread for this comparison for others not following this thread to benefit.

seunoj:
@saydfact. Thanks sharing this costly information for free. you ve done well.
pls what is take on Nigerite Crown tile French (cement fibre roofing sheet). What is the cost compared to the regular aluminum sheet.
Your honest position is highly appreciated.

I'll reply u soon pls... Thanks

olatoyib:
Thanks for the valuable Knowledge . I think Plastering and Rendering should come before tiles activities

Stop thinking because you're 100% right.

I took tiling because I'm not following the sequence after I noted I won't be quoting for electrical works, plumbing etc.

I'll quote for plastering next - early next week (By God's Grace)

Macbroomy:
Thanks for sharing this. I have actually been searching where I could find how tiler charges. Now, I am better informed. The guy tiling my house actually plans to rip me off but with this information now, I am better equipped to negotiate well with him. Once again, thank you and God bless you richly for this

Waoh - Thanks, I appreciate & I'm motivated to write on..

a simple question was asked - there was no need to tag someone / anyone names .... we complain about our leaders but we're worse than they are..

too bad .... be guided @ all (including me)

FriendChoice


Great song i Like it; my observation however is the producer shd use less of 'auto tune' - Lil A shd work on his natural voice which i believe is presently even better than the tuning done.

GoodLuck dude

If you want the president to RESIGN click LIKE; if you want him to CONTINUE click SHARE.

On the morning show tagged "HELLO9JA" hosted by Yemi Daniels on StarFM 101.5 Mon - Fri at 5:30am the question was asked today if listeners wanted the President to resign (when back from his leave) or Continue and about 72% of callers asked that he should resign for various reason; majorly being that he has failed on his electoral promises.


Nairalanders what's our pick?


Resign or Continue?


cc: lalasticlala, mynd44

Add to the list or share your thoughts on this.


1. He loved me. He loved me, but he doesn’t love me anymore, and it’s not the end of the world.”

2. Sometimes we must undergo hardships, breakups, and narcissistic wounds, which shatter the flattering image that we had of ourselves, in

3. To love and win is the best thing. To love and lose is the next best.”

4. For a long time, the fact that I was divorced was the most important thing about me. And now it’s

5. I mean, if the relationship can’t survive the long term, why on earth would it be worth my time

6. The moving finger writes, and having written moves on. Nor all thy piety nor all thy wit, can cancel half

7. It’s much more interesting to try and understand what binds two people together. Why we stay with each other is

8. Everyone’s allowed to be in love with the wrong person at some point. In fact, it’s a mistake not to

9. When things break, it’s not the actual breaking that prevents them from getting back together again.

10. It’s no good pretending that any relationship has a future if your record collections disagree violently or if your favorite



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Abeg na this guy teeth-ed laugh worry pass?

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President of the United State said or tweeted this words before becoming President; perhaps looking back - He shouldn't have made them.

I'm sure we all can relate to those during his electoral campaign; Lets add more to the list.


18 “An extremely credible source has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud.”

17 “You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful piece of ass.”

16 “Free trade is terrible. Free trade can be wonderful if you have smart people. But we have stupid people.”

15 “The U.S. will invite El Chapo, the Mexican drug lord who just escaped prison, to become a U.S. citizen because our “leaders” can’t say no!”

14 “I am the least racist person there is. And I think most people that know me would tell you that. I am the least racist.”

13 “My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body.”

12 “If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.

11 “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.

10 “I think the only difference between me and other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful.”

9 “Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man – he made a good decision.”

8 “Our great African-American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore.”

7 “If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say ‘Rosie, you’re fired.'”

6 “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

5 “I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”

4 “Laziness is a trait in blacks.”

3 “Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest – and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure. It’s not your fault.”

2 “I was down there, and I watched out police and our firemen, down on 7-Eleven, down at the World Trade Center, right after it came down.” (he meant 9-Eleven)

1 asked if he would start a war with China. He replied “Who knows?”





Now add to the list.


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guess i'm late in arriving... not bad thou; at least i arrived safely.

No7: Tiles (Next up for estimate is tiling works)

Welcome after such a long break.

For tiling we'll assume all floors would be tiles and only toilet and bathroom walls up-to 2.1m (lintel level) would receive tiles.

From the drawings attached:

a. Total Floor Area of Bedroom, Lobbies etc = 37.98m2
b. Living / Dinning room = 37.10m2
c. Toilets and bathroom (floor) = 9.16m2
d. Toilets and bathroom (wall) = 24.9 * 2.1 = 52.29m2
e. Kitchen and store = 16.99m2

Total Square Meter = 105m2 (approx)

The reason we separated the areas is because we would use slightly more expensive tiles in the public spaces e.g living room than in the private spaces e.g bedroom

Rates of Tiles for:
a. @ N2,200 per square meter = 84K
b. @ N3,350 per square meter = 125K
c. @ N1,250 per square meter = 12K
d. @ N1,200 per square meter = 63K
e. @ N1,200 per square meter = 21K

Total Material Cost: N305,000:00k (to reduce cost of material, you could go for cheaper floor tiles especially in the Living and Bedroom areas, or change totally to cheaper options like Rubber (Nasco) tiles in the private spaces e.g Bedrooms)

Transportation Cost: N20k (depending on distance of purchase)
Labour Cost: 105 * 450/m2 = approx 50k
Sand 20 tonnes = 55k (Max)
Cement = about 30 bags @ N2350 = 71k
miscellaneous = 10k

Total in this Section: 196k

Grand Total: N501,000:00K (Five Hundred and One Thousand Naira Only)



No8:
To Be Continued:
Stay Tuned.... THANKS.

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