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finofaya:
1. The prophecy doesn't have a time frame. After the death of Alexander, his Kingdom was split into various parts at various times. It was five, then it was four, then it was three and today it's just Greece. The Kingdom was not even split into 4 until 40 years after the death of Alexander. I expect the prophet to be specific about when exactly his prophecy would've come to pass, given that the period starting from the minute of Alexander's death up to present day is what is in question. Why pick one specific period 40 years after his death over AD 1921?

2. I'd appreciate it if you could specify what the prophecy is and how it came to fruition.

3. You don't expect me to believe that a virgin was impregnated by a spirit and she bore a son. Even at that, your messiah is not called "Emmanuel" in the NT. Perhaps this imprecision as to identity contributed to why Jews reject your messiah.

4. There is no evidence that the Israelites were ever enslaved in Egypt.

5. Carefully explain when and how this prophecy came to fruition.

theAtheist101:
You have wasted the better part of this post explain what was never asked of you. I asked who is god, not what has god done? You just wrote what god is purported to have done in the Bible. How did the creator become a creator? Who created that creator?

Why did your god create good and evil? Why did he create a being he couldn't handle? Why didn't he get rid of devil? Why did he allow the devil in this ream of ours? I know you don't have an answer to theses questions, neither does the Jewish Bible that promotes this god. The easiest way to solve this problem is to think outside your Bible and that is what atheists do.

theAtheist101:
The genealogies listed in Genesis chapters 5 and 11 provide the age at which Adam and his descendants each fathered the next generation in a successive ancestral line from Adam to Abraham. By determining where Abraham fits into history chronologically and adding up the ages provided in Genesis 5 and 11, it becomes apparent that the Bible teaches the earth to be about 6000 years old, give or take a few hundred years.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/earth-age.html#ixzz3XKO0HgCD

In the creation of eve, the Jewish Bible stated that god took one of Adam's rib to form her. Definitely, Adam should be one short of that of eve.

Why did he forgive David, when he specially stated in his ten commandments that "though shall not kill"? This is one the few irrational things the Jewish Bible attributes to god.

finofaya:
Saying that Christ volunteered his life may make it sound better until you realise that you find suicide morally reprehensible. Suicide, however, is equally the exercise of one's right to end his life at his pleasure.

Similarly, you would be loathe to admit that ISIS are carrying out the justice of Allah by murdering every human in sight. It is however no different from what God asked the Israelites to do.
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finofaya:
Why don't you list your best five?

since it seems to readily show itself to the witness but not to the jury.

theAtheist101:
Let's assume the Jewish Bible is correct, who is god and who created him? Why didn't he give you his followers/sons the manual to life? Also answer the questions this man asked: https://www.nairaland.com/2253684/questions-gods-omniscients

Mikwus:
I would simply call it an undeserved favour.......my story indeed.........Our story whether we agree or not.

emrain:
boring.

theAtheist101:
It is very easy to claim different sorts of things and that is what the Bible does. Every mythology also ascribed magnificent things to its god, but you decided to stick with that of the Jews. All you have quoted are baseless, because you do not have fact for the occurrence of these events. The location of these events exist doesn't make them true. Read other mythologies to see the magnificent of human imagination. The Bible failings began with the wrong prediction of the earth's age. The same book claimed women had fewer ribs than men.

Let's assume the Jewish Bible is correct, who is god and who created him? Why didn't he give you his followers/sons the manual to life? Why is god not consistent in his dealings -- murdering anyone that crosses his path in the old testament and forgiving infinitely in the new age? Also answer the questions this man asked: https://www.nairaland.com/2253684/questions-gods-omniscients

theAtheist101:
The attack was started by religious people in first instance. One would sit quietly, and then one person would come spitting to your face that: you go to hell for not believing in his religion that is only about 2000 years old. Children are forced to learn things that are of no benefit to them. This is what annoys some Atheists. Wasting your childhood learning fairy tales. People are blown up for not believing a certain type of Allah.

Christianity is at the centre of most atheist attacks, because most people have read the Bible. Most people know about[b] the fairy tales in the book[/b], and questioning it is very easy. The little most non-Muslims people know about the Quran is the physical barbaric actions perpetuated by its extreme adherents.

finofaya:
The Christian God has been known to smite people for blasphemy.

I won't start quoting bible verses here, but there are many instances where your God killed or punished people who did no wrong. You have the example of Job, the 42 children mauled by bears over a prophet, original sin, the killing of Jesus for the sins of man, the hardening of the heart of Pharaoh, turning Lots wife into salt, inciting the Israelites to commit what would qualify as war crimes today, and many more.

It's also easier to defend God if you don't go and start giving him a hot temper, huge ego .

finofaya:
Its not the location that is the issue but the events that have been said to occur. As for genealogies, in addition to the fact that most religions have one, the Christian one lacks the vital detail of where Cain got a wife from. We can't place too much weight on genealogies.

When you say "history attests", do you mean "the Bible attests" or do you mean that there is independent verification of every word in the Bible?

Regarding prophecies, obviously the only thing for us to do here is to tediously list each prophecy you say has been fulfilled and determine the criteria for fulfilment to see if any one has indeed been fulfilled.

People have testified both for and against God. It's not about the number but the weight to attach to the testimony. Surely you don't expect me to believe in a God I haven't seen simply because you say you can see him.


I don't really understand the last few lines of your post. They read like you just pulled them out of your ass.
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urheme:
Above from where?

The word of God is uncorrupted, it has be written and placed in your heart. Heb 8:7-12.
Take note of verse 11,

The scripture in your heart and conscience is superior to the bible,[i][/i] the question is: are there any doctrine in there?. What are they?

finofaya:
Practically all atheists find some of the myths and legends surrounding some religions hilarious. Its hard not to mock people who believe such stories. Some atheists use blasphemy to show that a deity is impotent and therefore non existent/improbable.

There are a lot of atheists dissing the Christian religion and God. While some supposed atheists are merely anti religious ex christians, there are some good reasons for what you notice. Its central deity is actually quite unpleasant if you don't make excuses for him.

Papist:
However it is important to note that this doctrine does not prescribe damnation for those who are outside the Body of Christ for Christ does not punish the ignorant but those who willfully reject Him.

eugy45:
I didnt alter d bible, these re encounters by people. D link i sent was 1 of our lady's apparition during d jihad war or so. When muslims almst succeeded in converting d whole christains then, that same period in d space of 7yrs she converted 9million souls.
The bible was complied in d 18th century, now lemme ask you, b4 d bible hw were d christians living their lifes?
And Peter was d rock, that was why he was d first catholic bishop and pope.

eugy45:
Its nt abt shwn u were it was written, d bible didnt contain everything.. Chk dz awt...
http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/the-amazing-truth-of-our-lady-of-guadalupe.html

eugy45:
“Outside the Church there is no salvation” (extra
ecclesiam nulla salus) is a doctrine of the Catholic
Faith that was taught By Jesus Christ to His
Apostles, preached by the Fathers, defined by
popes and councils and piously believed by the
faithful in every age of the Church. Here is how the Popes defined it: “There is but one universal Church of the
faithful, outside which no one at all is
saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.) “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it
is absolutely necessary for the salvation of
every human creature to be subject to the
Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.
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beejaay:
bla bla bla... Na sleepin tablet u type so

osina1414:
i write this post as a born and devoted christian. continous study and research has given me enough reasons to wonder if we're actually gettin it right anyway.
according to the bible, christians are d followers of Christ, the only begotten son of God. After his recorded crucifizion, death, resurectn and assension, his(Christ's) ministry on earth was propagated by his disciples with Peter as their head. we were all in turn born/brought in to beleive and worship what we dont really know(GOD IS IGNORANCE).
I feel we should all try to have a re-think about our religeous faith, contradictions and the misinterpretation of scriptures.
I get really worried when i consider the following;
(i) the Rman Catholic Church beleives they are the only true church as established by Christ, with apostle Peter as their first pope(leader). They also see the fulfilment of the scipture(mattew 16:18) by erecting their headquarters @ the grave of Peter(st. Peter's Basilica) in Rome.
(ii) the RCM also teaches that the bible came from them while every other church came 4rm the bible. claiming that as the custordians of all the original manuscripts of the bible, that it is only the Catholic church that uses the complete bible(Jeruselem bible)
(iii) every other congrgation(especially the penticostal churches) see the Catholic as a fertish and outdated religion.
(iv) every other congregation even the once that just poped up a few years ago disagree with the authentesity of the DEUTERO CANONICAL BOOKS thst are included in the catholic bible
(v) christians whole heartedly accept the first five book as written by MOSES(genesis, exodus, levitecus, numbers & deuteronom), negleting the sixth and seventh book just because its pure revelation of abstract powers(mistics)
(vi) the leadership of the new generation churches espicial PENTICOSTAL are busy extorting money 4rm their members in the name of offering, tithe & seed sowing, fly around the world with private jets, and others driving exotic cars while the members are ravaging in poverty.
More to share on this, but i want us to start thinking. If there is any thing that burthers your mind about christianity, please lets share it here.

shahydbinaliyu:
my question is simple... what is the New testament? what are new testament rule? if the New testament is against anything in Moses law, then it's void because Jesus said he didn't come to destroy or change but to fulfil

Fari9482:
That quote from Jeremiah is fascinating to me because many people that quote it for some reason never tell you who or what particular people that New Covenant would be made with. So who did that Prophet Jeremiah say that New Covenant would be made with?

shahydbinaliyu:
so na jerimaiah that God gave the new testament.. not Jesus again...

FrancisTony:
Ezekiel 16:49
"Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

50. "And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit.


I wonder why christians are equating gayism with sodomy.
With these^^^ Nigeria is already sodom.


Then, why did your country criminalised gayism and left adulterers, abusers etc?.

To think that GEJ legalised prostitution and he was praised by myopic people for his act against gays.