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Suicide mission

ITbomb: The Bible says "And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach." (Isaiah 4:1).
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That day is here , it is call that phrase Mukina loves to hear

Clearly different from this case. Infact the opposite, the women need the men for financial support, in other words they want to eat the men's bread and wear the men's apparel

I wish I was in Abuja, I wouldn't mind getting trained by you. Your Email looks like that of a guy though.

Fulaman198: Wait, and you know this how when you have never stepped foot in a Mosque before?

How are you sure of that? Did you read what you quoted at all?

CAMEROONPRIDE: If Moslems were serious about dissociating themselves from terrorism. They would excommunicate terrorist leaders and any imam that preaches hate. Do they do so ? Nope how many times have u been near a mosque? All u hear is the bible is fake, Christians are going to hell , beware of Christians etc. Have u ever been near a church? Do they even mention Islam? All u hear is love love and love. That's the difference . So again moslems should apologize to non Moslems and flush out the devils living in their midst. If they don't they should proudly bear their label of terrorists

You have a good point there. I did my Youth Service in the norther part of Nigeria, a predominantly muslim community, I noticed that they spend more time discrediting the teachings of christianity than they spend on teaching Islam itself. Why won't there be hate?

I hope there will be no need to use the lab, we don't need anymore plane crash. However,
how did they know it's the first in Africa? I always hear phrases like that whenever our govt does something

naptu2: All Suicide-Bombers Are Going To Hell - Gumi by luv2talk(m): 12:48am On Apr 15

Destination Of All Suicide Bombers Is Hell, Sheik Gumi Says



By SaharaReporters, New York

Hell is the destination of all suicide bombers, fearless cleric Sheik Ahmad Mahmud Gumi warned today in a sermon SaharaReporters monitored in New York.

He pointed out that while young men commit suicide, they ought to reflect that those leaders who send them to their deaths do not commit suicide or send their children to die in the same way.

Gumi who has been critical of the Boko Haram sect, said in the sermon: [size=14pt]“The prophet – Salawatullahi alaihi- is a mercy for mankind. He said the way to Paradise is easy for those that follow his path. He said: “everybody in my Ummah is going to enter the paradise except he who refuses. They said (the companions): oh messenger of Allah, who will refuse? He said: whoever obeys me enter the paradise and whoever disobeys me he has indeed re...fused” Al-Bukhari.”[/size]

In an important sermon that has implications for violent Islamic sects that use suicide bombing as a key tool, Gumi offered the message that those that agree to use themselves as bombs do more than die in vain.

“Despite this ease of entering Paradise, those that commit suicide for whatever reason have guaranteed for themselves the Hell Fire forever,” he said.

He called on the faithful to be aware that nobody should deceive them to take their own lives, saying that real Jihad is fought to either win or get martyrdom.

[size=14pt]“The shahada is gotten when killed by enemy action,” he said. “Allah said: ‘Let those Fight In the cause of Allah who sell the life of This world for the Hereafter to Him who fighteth In the cause of Allah,- whether He is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give Him a reward of great (value). ” Q4/74.May Allah continue to guide us all to the straight path.”

Continuing, Sheik Gumi quoted Anas: “If not for my hearing the prophet – alaihis Salam- saying: Do not wish for death I would wish for it” Al-Bukhari.[/size] People are forbidden to wish for death talks less of committing suicide. Islam is a practicable religion. We are required to do what we can do and leave the rest to the Al-Mighty. [size=14pt]“So fear Allah As much As ye can; listen and obey and spend In charity for the benefit of your own soul and those saved from the covetousness of their own souls,- They are the ones that achieve prosperity.” Q64/16.

“Whoever therefore will be taken by fanaticism or sickness or depression to kill himself, he has condemned himself to eternity in the Hell fire, May Allah Save us from it. Muslim narrated from Abu Huraira who said: the messenger of Allah said: “whoever will kill himself with an iron, then he would be tormented with his iron in his hand injuring his belly continuously in Hell Fire forever. And whoever will drink poison and then kill himself, he will continue sipping the poison in the Hell fire forever. And whoever fall from a rock then kills himself, He will continue falling in the Hell fire forever”.[/size]

He stressed that whoever will explode himself with explosives for whatever reason or disguise will also continue to be in his explosion in hellfire forever, stressing that this is what the hadith teaches. Suicides, he warned, are tormented by the same means they employ to kill themselves.

“Today we see young men killing themselves with explosives in the name of Jihad yet they never reflect that those ‘leaders‘ that send them to such adventure never commit suicide nor send their children to commit it.”


  

Source:
http://saharareporters.com/news-page/destination-all-suicide-bombers-hell-sheik-gumi-says

I saw this article before my previous posts and I still stand by it. The underlined parts are the quotes Gumi made from the Qur'an and they didn't do anything in answering Shekau's challenge. The other parts which would have done much are unfortunately not from the Qur'an but Hadiths or whatever they call it from Islamic scholars and clerics like Gumi himself. Many Muslims do not believe in the authenticity of those Hadiths, for example Abu Huraira who was quoted by Gumi whose quote you bolded is regarded by many muslims as a liar. Furthermore, many muslims believe that the Qur'an is perfect and complete and that there is no need for Hadiths. So, I wonder why they cannot prove that Islam is against the activities of these terrorists from the Qur'an itself.

[quote author=naptu2][/quote]Only Sheikh Gumi?? I know of Shiekh Gumi before now but, I still took time to glance through the links, no where did he prove that Boko Haram's killings were against the teaching of the Qur'an. His statements were mainly poltical in nature and nothing different from what me or any non-muslim would have said. Abubakar Shekau asked for proof that his group's actions were against Islam's teachings, I couldn't see any where Sheikh Gumi gave proofs in any of the links you provided.
He condemned their actions, which is very good, but he didn't prove that they were unislamic.

dayokanu: Bluetooth, Olaheavy, Ilugun, rhino, demdem, Ileke-idi or Desola

Since we have Afam who is an extreme tribalist, we need to balance him out

see how you just pointed out those peeps as extreme tribalists.

Obinoscopy: - Do you Spend enough time online daily?

Sorry, No!

claremont: [s]This argument shouldn't be about religion, neither should it be about culture or race. This terrorist act is simply an evil act committed by evil people, the fact that they chose to commit this act in the name of their religion is immaterial at this point. What is material at this point is that a lot of innocent souls have lost their lives in the hands of a few evil men.

I'm an Atheist. I believe that ALL religions are not worth the paper on which their books are written on. If we choose to make this terrorist incident about religion, we might as well go back in history to World War 2 when the Nazi party committed heinous crimes in the name of Christianity. We can even go further than that to the time of the crusades when atrocities were committed due to the forceful imposition of the Abrahamic religions on our ancestors.

Again, this argument shouldn't be about religion; but if you guys want to spend all day on here trying to make it seem as if one religion is better than another, then I would argue that NO religion is exempt from evil. ALL religions are founded on the basis of human slavery, murder, and deprivation[/s].

We are talking about the present, but it seems you guys cannot help but always refer to the past. When the Nazi's were killing in the name of christianity, who stopped and defeated them? Who outlawed the KKK? Do you know how many christians actively fought for the abolition of slave trade during its era? Do you know how many of them died for it? If you choose to go back to history, take a full look at it while you are there. No one opposed slave trade more than Christians, no one fought and lost lives for the abolition of slave trade more than christians, no one spoke against slave trade more than christians. Slave trade ended because true Christians and others fought and spoke against it. Are the muslims doing the same regarding terrorism?

tintingz: so when a cameroonian killed/terrorize someone the whole cameroonian are tagged killers/terrorist right?

If the constitution of Cameroon agrees with and encourages it, yeah, why not?

Abubakar Shekau, Boko Haram leader released a video yesterday. As he always does in his videos, he challenged any Islamic cleric anywhere in the world, to prove that what he does is against the teachings of the Qu'ran. That was the umpteenth time he raised that challenge, no cleric has been able to prove him wrong yet. Like I said before, the religion of Islam is evil!

CAMEROONPRIDE: it is obvious u are. Moslem it is written all over your posts. I don't mind that much anyway . The terrorists are Moslems so when we held Moslems account we also held the terrorists accountable. Besides most of the time they are dead

You realised it very late. I stopped being fooled by that liberal / free thinker rubbish she was fronting when she said she dislikes Christians.

Bimpss: [s]"Treat every Muslim like a terrorist" ? That's not hateful?aside from moral values, lets look at the religious obligations, "love your neigbour as your self" the bible say. Where does it ever say to "treat every Muslim like a terrorist"? See this is is what I was trying to say when I quoted Gandhi, it's Christians like you who don't follow the teachings and the religion the way it's suppose to I don't like. The one who has turn Christianity to something else. The ones who go to church every Sunday and go all "PRAISE HIM!" and midweek say hateful words! Hypocrites! but the ones that actually practice the teaching truthfully, I have no problem with. Just as I am disgusted by the terrorists who go on killing spree in the name of Allah, when their religion actually says to respect others of other beliefs, I am also disgusted with the ones who throw away the teachings of Jesus Christ weekdays, but on Sunday they are "saints". But who I'm I kidding, you can't understand this, you are too foolish and childish to see reason. What do you mean that I lie? I never lie about my views, I come out in the open and state them and stick with it[/s].

I didn't read beyond the 3rd line of your long epistle. I said ''potential'' terrorist, you took away the word ''potential'' to suit your agenda. I also went further to explain by saying one has to be careful in dealing with them in a subsequent post. So where did I wish all muslims dead? Liar and hypocrite

Bimpss: [s]I can't believe you ignorant fools are still going at it. (not you fulaman) God why so much hate though? I love Jesus, I really do. His teachings were remarkable, he stood for peace and love. When I see Christians divert from his teachings it breaks my heart, because Jesus wasn't a hateful person ( Hint: a clue to the question I asked you idi*t, maybe you can figure it out now) You come on here spew your hateful words about people of another ethnicity, religion and you call yourself a Christian. You will go to church on Sunday and sing "holy, holy, holy" and use that same mouth to wish others death during the week. Didn't the bible call that hypocrisy? You generalize and call every Muslim evil, based on the actions of a few. Would Jesus have done that? Mind you the Muslims that do practice peace have done nothing to you, yet you wish them bad. Does that represent who your lord and savior was? If a non-Christian who was anticipating converting to Christianity came on this forum and saw the way you are all conveying your barbaric views, what would you think they might say to that?

P.S: If some dumbass is going to quote me and say some B.S like "you only support Muslims" go ask that bigot ayanle what I said to him while he was also spewing his hate.[/s]

Trash as usual. The person you are preaching to never said he hates muslims or wants them dead, please quote where I said it. On the other hand, you clearly admitted on this thread that you dislike christians so no one is going to take any of your long epistles seriously. You are not just a hypocrite, but also a liar.

:......and that thread was of course created by none other but me!

After them go say na Igbos them they kill.

But this news has been going around since the beginning of this year even on Nairaland. They said it wil be completed by May, we are in September and they are still talking like they are just about to start. People should learn to celebrate more action and less talk

amarilo: Can we see the phones the company manufactured already from their Ghana base.

They contract Huawei and one Korean firm like that to manufacure cheap components for them, then they assemble it into cheap phones

pesty100: a typical Nigerian nothing to say except insults

He is not Nigerian, his username is clear enough. Don't insult Nigerians because of him.

Shalomé: The media is not messing with your brain,the conspiracy theorist are the ones fingering your brain...the shit is real,I'm in nairobi now...been for 3 weeks now

What has your being in Nairobi got to do with anything? I am sure you weren't even allowed anywhere close to the mall.

so it's a hoax? Hahaha people are taking this illuminati ish too seriously. Conspiaracy theorists every where.
I edited the URL so that the video can show here.

jojo23:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL2GMH7tPWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hQV4Jl7Ze0

I'm off to bed abeg. Nice to know that a hypocrite has been exposed. Despite all the things I've said about the religion of Islam on this thread, I never said I hated muslims, I only said I am suspicious of them and will always be careful in dealing with even the ''good'' ones because they can change at anytime. But the person who has been trying so hard to pretend to be liberal and tolerant didn't know when she confessed her hatred dislike for Christians. Goodnight all.

Fulaman198: No, she herself has said she is not a follower of Christ or a practitioner of Islam (Muslim). She has reiterated her question on several occasions about would Jesus show the same hatred and Disdain that so-called Christians do towards people who are different from them? (Meaning people of different religions, different skin colours, different cultural backgrounds, etc.) Would you mind answering on behalf of your fellow Muslim bigot papi365?

Re-phrase your question if you want an answer from me. What's the talk about different skin colour and all that. We are talking about people who are encouraged to kill christians and other ''unbelievers'' here.

She says she loves Jesus but hate christians, but Jesus disagrees with that.
John 15:18 “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.

Fulaman198: 2 men teaming up on one lady, I think that is a bit unfair. She has struck a truthful blow to your faces. None of you have answered or addressed her question about what Jesus would do.

You mean what would Jesus do about her hatred or dislike for his followers?