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midolian:
Deji is a fool..

The way he, the defectors and his lazy misguided lots from the oza side(called pigs in some quarters) will cry after 2019 elections will be super cool and entertaining to see.

2019 will be a year full of surprises and disappointment

chai...see anger and pain

Fearlez:
Ethiopia is over 80 million people with an economy of 72 billion dollar GDP. That my friend is a textbook definition of poor and miserable.

Being landlocked doesn't necessarily condemn a country to being poor, it simply makes them overly dependent on their neighbours, restricting trade and geopolitical reach.

Take a look at what South Africa is doing to Swaziland!

Togo with sea access is even poorer. Meanwhile landlocked ethiopia is the fastest developing country in africa...and Adis Ababa looks better than both lagos and abuja in terms of modern streets and infrastructure...

I wont stand here and tell u that having biafra without port harcourt will be all rosy...but its not worse than we have it now.

At least people will start using onitsha river port..cos now nobody is using it. At least we can use our international airports instead of going to lagos. If we need to loby the niger delta to keep river niger open for us, we will...other wise we threaten to dam it. They lose nothing by keeping it open to us...but they lose a lot if we dam it for electricity...remember it flows from north into the ocean.
We are not swaziland...and the dynamics are not the same. Swaziland dont have a river port. We do. The only thing we need is for nigeria to keep their part of the niger open to us. They can...its all diplomacy.

The ikwerre shakara is too much for people bringing only sea access that we have an alternative to

Fearlez:
That's why south Sudan is still a chief destination for UN charity and UNESCO aid since breaking away from Sudan .

lol..so u believe that once ur nation is not opened to the sea...it will be poor...well here is the irony...ethiopia is landlocked even worse than biafra...but its richer than togo with miles of coastal line and oil...

Austria is rich than nigeria...yet its landlocked without oil.

I repeat...igboland is not landlocked...we have water ways...we dont need nigerdelta

Fearlez:
River Niger is not a sea port, it's an inland water.

Without port Harcourt which is over 70 percent Igbo, it means Biafra will be a land locked state without access to the sea. Very vital for economy, ask Niger and Austria.

South sudan is landlocked..but it has a river port.
Juba port is the main river port in South Sudan. Other main ports in the country are located in the towns of Bor, Mangalla, Shambe, Adok, Malakal, Melut and Renk. Barges are not confined to docking at these locations and will travel to where they are needed and where it is safest to dock. General cargo barges docking in Juba can contain anything from food and household goods, to building supplies, heavy engineering machinery, vehicles and fuel. Passenger barges carry IDPs from conflict areas in the north of the country also terminate at Juba making the port an important transit area for IDPs.

If u see...a ship will pass thru somalia and ethiopia b4 it reaches the port...if river niger passes thru nigeria or anyother country, then we must negotiate to keep our vessels flowing thru...

Lipscomb:
Because your so call Biafra republic can't do in isolation.

lol...but we say we want to be isolated na...is it ur isolation?

FreddyKruger:

Am not from the tribe that won't stay put in their geographical region but will wander all over the country and even diaspora causing problems for themselves and others in the name of development. Why don't you vermins stay put in ur demographic if you really need your biafra. Well sorry to burst your bubble but u can wait for eternity, the land of the rising sun will never set forth at dawn

lol...i wont worry about u bro...as kanu said..we must continue

FreddyKruger:


[s]Keep dreaming bro. Ur biafra is a mirage. U will grow a bald head with lots of grey hairs and probably die of a stroke from high bp or heart attack yet biafra will never come. So Stop hyperventilating.[/s]

lol...all these people from parasite tribes who cant stand on their own

justtoodark:
you wan wait that long....??

u think we are fighting for biafra for ourselves? No. We are fighting it for our unborn kids up to the year 3000 AD.

Rome was not built in a day...biafra wont be gotten in a day...ojukwu has done his own...kalu has done his own..i pray one day i do my own..

We must continue

justtoodark:
who told you oyel will finish...??

do you even know how many barrels of crude oyel is left....??

stop listening to ipob....not good for your brain....

nigeria oil will dry in 25 yrs if present drilling rate continue...gas however will take longer....and gas full igboland

horsepower101:
Ikwerre will realign once the conditions are right. Their igbo denial issue was actually fuel by the politically dominant ijaws in the old rivers state who tried to marginalize igbos.

Also know that Ikwerre are NOT the only igbo sub group in rivers state. There are about 7 to 8 other igbo subgroups that have never denied their igboness.

pyxon:
I have seen times without number how ikwerre vehemently deny their igboness to the point it has gotten embarrassing. Igbo is a successful tribe that has cultural ties with a lot of tribes and Trust me there are tribes that will choose to leave with Igbo when the time comes. Ikwerre can go with ijaws and continue playing politics with them

we really dont need ikwerre. And we need to make it clear from day one.

If am a senator and i stand b4 the senate and ask them to consider giving igbos in nigeria an authonomous region, the map i will show them of igboland will not include ikwerre or p.h. it wont even include agbor in delta state

We dont need people who will rush to a newspaper to dissociate themselves from us the nxt day. Its embarrasing

Ojiofor:
Where does Igboland start and end,Igboland is part and parcel of Nigerdelta.

we know our border. Yes we extend into niger delta...but we dont need the non-igbo ss folks

justtoodark:
nigeria cant break up without a war....you are counting on people to break it up...but thats not gonna happen....

you must break it up by force....their is no other way....

seems u havent been paying attention..nigeria has always been at war...in north east in south south, in south east and north central..

The only thing that made it survive all these wars is oil. Oil finishes bro. Dubai's oil is almost finished. Wen nigeria oil finishes..then break up will be an option for everyone...and leaders will support their own militant groups

justtoodark:
the nigerian army will go to war with any nation that support dividing nigeria...

dont mess with them...

nigerian army commanded by robots? We never ready to break up..because of oil

Once oil finish...every tribe go begin agitate for break up...including members of the nigerian army

justtoodark:
nigeria cant divide without a war....

wen oil finish..even north go one seperate. They have a river port now so they are not landlocked...wen oil finish u will see a monster bigger than boko haram appear in the north.

Our own as igbos is to keep it in the public discourse that division is an option.

Fulani herdsmen will still do wat they are currently doing in benue in Abuja. The fula tribe will still claim abuja and end nigeria

Why do u think the hausa fula tribe built their river port in niger state instead of kogi state? Cos they are preparing for niger break up bro

justtoodark:
hahahahaha...

na your people want trouble by fire by force....

forget delta igbos...they dont know what they are talking about....

you will be in biggggggg trouble if you try your biafra nonesense.....

lol...as far as my state governor is getting oil money...am good.

Wen ur oil finish...we will divide nigeria

Ikenna0b:
My exact thought. It's like your reading my mind dude. Nigeria is a huge hinder in our growth. A big, fat, hinder. I curse the day Luggard stepped his foot in Africa. Whenever I compare how much we've grown since the end of the war despite little to no aid and that of Nigeria's growth, I weap. I weap because it shows me the potential of Igbos getting suffocated in that shithole. I applaud our parents in how much they grew after that war. I truly applaud them. It was not easy but they made it despite being stuck in this backwards, unprogressive hellhole. My desire for Biafra is because I see so much potential for our people. So much fucking potential especially in the terms of Human resources. When I look at the work of Aba merchants and Nnewi techs, I see a huge potential being stifled by petty stupidity. Only this shithole will cut it's nose just to spite themselves all because they want to keep Igbos subgated. Nigeria is the only country I know that it is stupid to realize that human resources develops a nation faster than natural resources. Nigeria is the only nation I know where such incompetence is available. Honestly, even with the Igboland only proposal will not allow thosr animals to let go, mostly because of the high percent of oil in Oyigbo, Egbema and Co. Personally, I say if we ever want to be free from that backwards hellhole parading itself as country and grow, we need to drop the entire SS minorites lands inclusion in Biafra. As for The Igbo land with oil, create a treaty that gives this greedy goats access to it and allow to drink themselves fat with it. I feel deeply that Igboland can develop with just Human resources alone. One thing God blessed us with is that. I am beyond confident about it. But, we will never get to if we are stuck in that retrogressive piece of shit. Honestly, staying in that nation, we'll continue watching other African nation thrive while the "Giant of Africa" confront falling into a pit. I mean come the Bleep on, Somalia of all places is even doing better than Nigeria and that country has been at war for God knows how long now.

As for Igbo leaders...I 100% agree with you. The day I read about Igbo leadership prior to British invasion taught me alot. if not for the British greediness, the likes of Kalu, Rochas, all Ohaneze leaders, all Igbo leaders in that Nation's government would never ever touch the leadership position at all. Based on my understanding of what I was taught, any of past Igbos that ever exhibited their type of leadership was immediately removed and stripped out of the community. Our ancestors never tolerated such bullshits. Unfortunately, being stuck in that hellhole those animals claiming to be our leaders are protected by the government of that shithole thus, the people can't even deal with the way they used to in the past. It's shame.

. I honestly believe someone cursed us to be in this retrogressive shithole drowning in mediocrity with the rest of the tribes in that nation. Honestly I do believe Nigeria is a curse. A big fat curse. Every single tribe in that shithole is cursed in my opinion. I pray and hope whoever our people wronged in the past before the British invaded, find it in her or his heart to forgive us before we drown completely with the rest of this animals in this zoo. It's extremely obvious Nigeria is modern day Titanic and I pray we get out before the boat hit completely under water. That's my prayer. If the rest of the tribes want to die in that sinking ship and live out their curse, let them but they aren't taking us down with them.

we are of a singular mind. Human resource powers modern nation. Humans who would build entertainment industry that will sell beyond africa...humans who would bring africa into the computer age. Human who would build fashion wears, packaged food etc. Oil has become a bane of our development...its time to look beyond it...and since thats really all niger delta is bringing...its time to look beyond them. We have access to sea in onitsha and asaba tru river niger.
I saw the streets of adis ababa on tv yesterday...i almost shouted. I live abroad and wat i saw on that tv is no different from the alpha city where i live. I knew that abuja and lag whr shitholes immediately.

We are strategically located close to the shore..we can build an economy based on production..and export. Sell them across the shores of africa..to cameroon equitorial guiene, gabon, angola etc.
We can pick asaba, aba, awka, onitsha, enugu, umuahia, abakiliki and owerri as our main cities and concentrate all our population and wealth on them.

And we can start bringin back our old values of accountable leadership. We can do it. Look at even ghana is about to join developed nations

RuthlessLeader:
I am igbo too. From imo state.

ok. Think of it this way bro....u can always lead a one nigeria campaign in igboland...just the way am leader an igbo nationalist campaign..if referendum ever comes..u can vote no biafra...i will vote yes biafra...after..we will count votes and majority will carry the vote

nonhuman:
I agree with you , the only reason why Nigeria and their politician are corrupt is because of oil money and the reason why Nigeria have refuse to develop thereby undermining our our own( biafra)development as. oil money is doom

the population of rwanda is 20 million...similar to the real population of igbos...the land mass of rwanda is even smaller than igboland...rwanda is landlocked...yet no part of igboland compares to kigali, the capital of rwanda.

We need to leave nigeria and forge our own destiny...otherwise we would keep going round a vicious poverty circle.

We have international airport in enugu..but all planes choose to land in lagos..we have onitsha river port...but ships choose to dock in lagos...we have serene cities and towns but all our business people choose to get to lagos to build their business...all because of one nigeria

OMANBALA1:
The Yorubas , take the arrival of the Europeans and they are not much different from the Northerners. Have you been to the Yoruba villages and see their living conditions?? Their bread and butter is THE ALMIGHTY LAGOS WHERE EVERY ONE OF THEM ORIGINATED FROM. As long as Lagos exist Yorubas will keep playing the ostrich. Yorubas don't really know what they want from Nigeria nor their destiny. If Yeebos clamor for secession Yorubas will start their own, if Northerners push an agenda they will equally join them. I don't think Yorubas are people who are ready to do anything tangible to define their destiny in the present Nigeria. But I know one thing, they will not chose to stay with the north if Nigeria breaks but they will not ask for secession. They just want you Yeebos to do the work...lol. I guess that the definition of that sanctimonious word SHOFISHTICATED..LOL

i agree

benben1000:
This is to respond to the afonja that opened that thread...see below, claiming Niger Deltan...you failed. You afonjas should get off of out business. I can see you people know your end is near, you are scampering opening threads left and right to perpetuate the hate that have worked for more than 50 yrs. IT WILL NEVER WORK AGAIN AFONJAS...STOP THIS EVIL OF YOURS, STOP IT! Wicked things chased out from heaven!

https://www.nairaland.com/4649720/dont-want-niger-delta-biafra

mister...am not afonja..i just want an igbo nation for igbos...we dont need ss for anything..and the oil in the ocean is not theirs...it belongs to nigeria by international law...so we will still get offshore oil money...plus we have oil in anioma, abia and imo.

I love the ss ppl especially ibibio..but biafra belongs to us..not them.
Thank u. Go tru my old posts to know if am afonja or a hardcore igbo man

hammer6F:
I REMEMBER ACCUSING BOTH THESE MONIKER OF BEING AFONJA.

SS/SE ARE TOGETHER FOREVER, LET NO ONE EVER COME BETWEEN WAT GOD HAVE JOINED TOGETHER.

AFONJA U HEAR?

lol...not me bro. Yes under nigeria we can cooperate...but wen it comes to biafra agitation..we are going it alone. We dont need them for anything

OMANBALA1:
The average Igbo man is politically deficient I guess because we never build a kingdom to afford us the experience on how to play national politics. An Hausa shoe shiner is more politically equipped than even an Igbo University graduate.

I listened to Nnamdi Kanu and his followers and I was stunned by the carelessness with which they insulted the Fulani,Hausa and even the Yoruba.

Listen, you see a northerner has nothing to lose , the Yoruba has Lagos and they could careless if you Yeebos burn to ashes. A northern is accustomed to living in a deplorable condition and their mentality is million miles apart from the Igbo man who want to be rich and live an affluent life. The northerner is comfortable with the way their elites exploit them and to them its the wish of ALLAH MAGNIFICENT...LOL. You, the Igbo is the only one concerned with the state of governance. They have nothing to lose and they will do anything humanly possible to frustrate you.

we built the Nri kingdom beyond the river niger and the aro confederacy that streches to uyo. We are not politically defiecient. We are just up against formidable opposition. The yoro moslems are an extention of the vast hausa fulani empire...we are even trying if u ask me.

As for yoro ppl having lagos, lagos is an urban jungle...if u go to paris, brussels, and many european capitals u will see that there are no skyscrapers there...its not about skyscapper...if the igbo business man like don jazzy establishes his biz in enugu and not in lagos, lagos will decline and enugu will grow.

RuthlessLeader:
And the best way to advance is to use tribe and religion to break up?

The US so broke up because of economic reasons. Do you know why I won't respect nnamdi kanu? He had the opportunity to campaign for a better nigeria regardless of religion and tribe but he let that define his movement. Biafra is an igbo Christian nation? Gerrarahia

no insults bro

Let me ask u...wats ur origin?

OMANBALA1:
Ignorance , arrogance and lack of public etiquette was at the root of the fall of Nnamdi Kanu and his IPOB followers. Nnamdi Kanu of all people should have known how much these SS ethnic minorities resent the Igbo yet you ffoollishly carved them into your imaginary Biafran state. These people denied you publicly and even joined Yorubas to insult , incite and mock you yet you think they are your allies!!

i tell u bro

Ojiofor:
Igbo nation is a cool idea but you know what?
Nigeria will not allow it even if we limit the demand to current 5 SE states.

they have no reason to allow or disallow it currently. There is simply never been any OFFICIAL call for referandum by our igbo leaders. And we have not become a security threat.
And neither have we shown persistence
But history tells me that one day..nigeria will reach the tiping point. And it will start from the west

Juliusmalema:
selemempe.....oya come...

u are now afonja....same way u say others are not igbo

what goes around comes around.

lol

RuthlessLeader:
Because we have had bad leaders and bad mindset. Can't you get it into your head that being igbo or yoruba does not guarantee you being a good or bad leader. Get biafra and we will still have the same problem.

Your logic is also wrong as well.

South Africa could have split up because of apartheid, xhosa zulu Indians Dutch British everyone to their own land. They did not. They are currently better than us.

America had a civil war between those who wanted to abolish slavery and those who didn't. Did they split up after even when Abraham Lincoln was assassinated? No. Did Martin Luther King Jr call for all the blacks to secede from America when they were suffering injustice? No. He called for equality and even though he was killed he succeeded.

All these examples of nations with more than one ethnic population are successful. Nigerians be they igbo yoruba haulage or fulani or any of the 250 ethnic groups all suffer under Buhari. The northerners even suffer more due to Herdsmen and Boko Haram which kill hundreds and displace thousands.

ok...u have told me those who didnt break up.. wat about those who did? Ussr and yugoslavia..they are better off now.

We have bad leaders because of ethnic bias and the nigerian bad system...which also stems from ethnic bias.

Kenya is rising fast..things are happening all around us..its time we go into our cultures seperately and bring out the best in us. The world is tired of waiting for africa to get past tribe and religion

gidgiddy:
I know that some people would rather have an 'Igbo only Biafra' rather than a Biafra that has other tribes in it. I'm open to either. However, having an Igbo only Biafra would cause certain problems.

great contribution as always bro

1) There is hardly any state in the SS that doesnt have an indigenous Igbo/Igbo speaking population. From Igbanke in Edo state to Ika in Delta to Legbo in Cross River to Omuma/Etche/Oyigbo in Rivers. I even heard that there are Indigenous Igbo of Byelsa although I'm yet to confirm this. A referendum has to cover the SS or we risk losing our brothers there.

we already have a working map of igboland. So if we are asking nigeria for a referandum, we would be asking it for the boundry of the map we are working with. The referandum will be done at the local govt or ward level in order to capture where we want.

2) If we are to pursue an Igbo only state then we cannot use the name Biafra. Biafra is about the various ethnic groups that live along the Bight of Biafra. If it is to be just Igbos we will have to come up with a new name, new flag and the national anthem will have to be in Igbo

exactly. We can call it Igboland. It could be a republic or a kingdom...depending on wat we agree. The current biafra flag may be modified a little and the anthem can always be written by great igbo writes and translated in english

3) An Igbo only country will create tension and boundary problems with the closest neighbours of Igbos. Although there is a general map of Igbo land, it is still not well defined

if we get a referandum with the map we are working with....then we would accept the out come. Any igbo sub group that votes not to join...we will remove there territory from the map and redraw the final map. Once land tension start, we deal with it through legal means

4) If we opt for an Igbo only country, what happens to the Ibibio of Abia? The Ego is of Ebonyi and the Igalas of Anambra?

They would be part of it...but if they opt out, then we see how we can carve them back into nigeria...but we would 1st diplomatically ask them to stay with us.

An Igbo only country is not a bad idea but a general referendum based on states makes more sense because Biafra has never been just about Igbos. The last President of Biafra, General Philip Effiong was not an Igbo man

yes..but if we truly want to get biafra, then we must sacrifice and make it an igbo affair. Igbo is recognised as an indegenous nigerian tribe. We can show that igbos have suffered many genocide in nigeria in the hands of the north...biafra is not recognised as anything. We cant push biafra but we can push igbo.

And believe me...if we know wat we are doing, we would get at least authonomy within nigeria.

RuthlessLeader:
So a new president cannot do this?


Bullshit. Nigeria has a central system of government. See where it got us with our culture. Cultural institutions that are outdated in today's world.


What? What about U.S.A? It is bigger than nigeria yet it works well. We are in the digital age. I know what is happening in Nepal on my phone so you have no point.

but let me ask u one question.
We have tried one nigeria...it hasnt worked. We have had yorobà, hausa, fulani, kanuri, ijaw and idoma leaders...non has worked. We have sold coal, oil, agric products, we are still a shithole..we have tried military rule, tried democracy...nothing has worked.

Why dont we try to break up and go our way?

RuthlessLeader:
They couldn't revolt during obj umy gej and pmb regimes. It is when they get their own nation they will magically revolt

yes...that is wat u dont know. U revolt against pmb and fulani ppl will start agitating...that wont happen in an igbo nation because we are one

RuthlessLeader:
How would biafra not have corruption and bad governance? Answer this.

by correcting every nigerian phenomenon in our constitution.

We would have a highly central system of govt...yet...the head of state will not easily becoming dictatorial because of cultural institutions.

Also we would only have few cities...so development would be easily seen. U cant be lying that u are building 2nd niger bridge and ppl in ibadan who have never been to onisha will be clapping for u wen no structure is on ground. If u say u are building it...u will show it or be disgraced out of office

RuthlessLeader:
So I guess anambra has a yoruba governor right? Tribalism is present all over nigeria. If we can let go of religion and tribe, nigeria will develop.
Lagos is the best in nigeria. It has low level of living but it is still the best. And all the other nations you mentioned are ethnically diverse as well.

lagos is the best in nigeria...but look at the urban jungle it is. Poo hole if u ask me. Even cotonou is a better place to live.

Yes we have mediocre leaders in the east..but they wont be leaders if we are not under the nigeria screwed system.

Ppl will revolt against them easily in igbo nation