₦airaland Forum

Cosbyrich:
You Osus are very funny.Is it Ekwueme that was the premier of the Western Region when it became more developed and prosperous than the Eastern Region and even lent money twice to Nigeria?

in what way was western Nigeria more developed and prosperous that eastern region... Afonjas propaganda

Show us had facts...is it cocoa house? Lmao

PVision2020:
The WhatsApp chat doesn't proof anything, anybody could have concorted that...I can send messages back and forth from my two WhatsApp lines and tag it anything.

the picture of a gate doesn't prove that the house is worth 650 million or that Obi owns it...but some how you believe that one and not the other

mascot87:
And some foools will be quick to point fingers at Tinubu. This people are the highest hypocrites in the history of the world. Spit on them

mumu...Obi did not buy any property...that is why the whole propaganda is laughable

forgiveness:
Who were the Brazilians that developed Lagos along with the Yoruba indigenes before British came to add more? Yoruba slaved deported from Brazil as the result of Male revolt in Bahia. Fact

Lagos had telephone (1886), new paper publication house (1896), Banks (1894 & 1899), electricity (1896), Tramway system (1901), carter bridge (1901), Lagos - Ibadan train (1900), paved roads with cars etc before other tribes stepped a foot in Lagos, and only SW money was used to accomplish these. That's my point.

liar and slave.

When the British annexed Lagos in 1861 there was nothing like towns...it was just an outpost of Benin kingdom. There was no development. The then oba was paying taxes to Benin king and there was not up to 1000 people living in Lagos then.

It took British effort to turn it into something. There were not very interested in using yoruba labor because they felt the natives were not very civilised and can't speak English so they resettled returning slaves either in Freetown or in Lagos and these returning slaves (who can be of any tribe) were the labor used to build both Freetown and Lagos

Lagos had telephone (1886), new paper publication house (1896), Banks (1894 & 1899), electricity (1896), Tramway system (1901), carter bridge (1901), Lagos - Ibadan train (1900), paved roads with cars etc before other tribes stepped a foot in Lagos

which yoruba man was governor when all these were being built....

Yorubas have always been opportunists... everything you guys have ever gotten has been because of the sweat or misfortune of another person. You can never stand on your own...that is why regardless of everything you have today, none of you Afonjas ever talk about independence from Nigeria

Wasky101:
I am a Christian and it happens in everyday Christianity. What does threaten someone with hell fire mean and paint all d inhumane pictures of hell fire

show us where a Muslim underage boy or girl was converted to Christianity .... ogbeni. Stick to the topic

forgiveness:
1911. That was after Lagos/western colony was merged with Protectorate of Southern Nigeria in 1901.

Before then, Zero people from SE, SS & North migrated to Lagos. Sorry.

If you don't agree, show me 1900 stats.

1900 Lagos was built by British and Brazilians. They had planned to make it a permanent European settlement in Africa like Cape town...they didn't succeed because of the chaos in the inner Yoruba mainland...they lived in constant fear of an insurrection.

They eventually decided to abandon their initial plan and incorporate the town to south Nigeria

Seetto:
You should have excluded Europeans, yorubas, hausas, your sentimental self even put Ibos before any other tribe, u guys will never change your boastful nature, less I forgot I taught you guys single handedly develop Lagos just as you develop China,singapore, Thailand, Lagos remain what it is regardless of how you develop it or who develop it, if you are pained please the nearest covid 19 isolation centre.

shattap and face reality...Lagos is a cosmopolitan city built by Nigeria and Europeans.

Abuja was built without Europe but entirely by Nigerians

Onitsha on the other hand was not built either by Europe, Nigeria, or even Anambra government...it was mainly built by highly progressive Igbo natives. Kiss the truth and move on with your day

[quote author=forgiveness post=88653687][/quote]you must think you are talking to a kid in Nigeria history. Yorubas and Benin lost control of Lagos as far back as 1860 and by then Lagos was just a vassal out post of the Benin empire till the British built it and joined it with the rest of yoruba land in 1906

From 1860 until around 1930s, there was no yoruba man heading any government departments in Lagos

Even the black elites living in Lagos then where not yorubas...they were mainly from Brazil and Sierra Leone...you Afonjas were just boy boy in Lagos while busy fighting wars amongst yourselves before the British decided to institute a protectorate in your land and force order

Seetto:
You people no dey tire, only fustrated and pained yanmuri from nnewi and upper nweke village do all this unnecessary chest beating, the hard working ibos are raking in millions and give no shiit about tribal bigotry.

This is the shiit you are comparing with lagos

shatapp there

Lagos that Igbo, hausa, yorubas and Europeans developed? Lagos was capital 76 years 1914 to 1990

Onitsha on the other hand has never been capital of anywhere. Just a city with hardworking natives.

Is there any city in the west as popular as Onitsha or Aba that isn't a capital city of its state. Shattap

Staro:
And Buhari's stupid foolish ZOMBIES do not still realise the dangerous
precedence their useless nepotistic president is sowing for Nigeria.

Because you are president, you corner the entire National budget to your region ... what else
is the definition of Abuse of Office ? Where is federal character ?

Zamfara State where the minister, Sadiya Farouq comes from has the second highest beneficiaries after
Buhari's own Katsina.

See ehn, the entire Southern Nigeria are a bunch of fools because I can't imagine the deft silence among
southern leaders
.

well it's like this...there are two regions in the south... East and West

The north killed and destroyed the east
And then bribed the west

So nobody in the south is going to be challenging the north anytime soon

kingxsamz:
But it's okay to force children to go to church if they don't want to?
It's okay to make them believe in a God that would cast them into a furnace for lying?
You're delusional.

you are an unrepentant idiot. A parent can raise his children in any legal way they deem fit. But it should be illegal for a non parent and most of all a governor who has other faiths in his state to try to convert a minor to whatever belief

You however should know this if you are not happy being stupid

Wasky101:
I didn't see any use of force in d video and yea Christians do worse? They threaten you with fire and brimstone

show us evidence of this

Foxman19:
Lol you Christian do worst than this.

is there any evidence of this or just another talk?

FrLukas:
French speaking African countries like Cameroon etc are not free.

is Nigeria free from UK influence? Same thing

FrLukas:
Well, I have too. They are. They may be good at hiding it but it eventually shows.

A case in point, those two highly trained medical doctors who insisted that the new vaccines should be tried out on Africans first.

Do you know that it is only the French that still has colonies in Africa?

which colonies?

FrLukas:
The French are very very racist.

If you doubt me travel with Air France.

I don't need to do that. I have lived in France

itsme01:



typical of an Ibo person, insult him back and give him a taste of his medicine he would be the first to shout and play the victim

who insulted who first? You are an idiot and one of the few people here who live in hate and anger

FrLukas:
If I was the bishop, I'd shut down that parish for life.

But then, most Germans are racist anyway...even the Cardinals and bishops from that nation are racist.

Germany, France and Italy. Most racist nations in Western Europe.

Unfortunately, they are also mostly Catholic.

France? Not at all bro

itsme01:



Ibos and Victim mentality.. unless I hear the story from the locals I wont take an Ibo man's word for anything


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you are a scum of the earth

CrimeKsmart:
The man is dead, stop hating on the dead. If you can't pray for him, keep quiet don't spread fake news against the dead.

I said it in other thread that igbos are so happy that this gentle man is dead but God go Shame una las Las.

mynd44

oyatz:
Too much confabulation.



Is this topic 'Yoruba Muslims trending' about 'Igbos ,cival war or GEJ'?


Must every discussion on Nairaland be about 'Igbos and the civil war, GEJ and the 2015 election'?

see oyatz, I think you are an intelligent people... even though you are of course a typical yoruba who sees no wrong once he is gaining. You know what I'm talking about but you don't know how to reply to hard truths

The only reason why we would be here discussing about whether Hausa sees Yoruba Moslems as real Moslems is because of one Nigeria. The only reason why hausas will be killing Igbos and yorubas and playing us like we are illiterate is because they have the numbers in one Nigeria...and the only reason why breaking Nigeria up is hard is because one of the tripods holding Nigeria (the yorubas) are In league with the other tripod. Nigeria would have effectively ended in 1967 if yoruba had acted differently.

Barring 1967, then there was 1993 when a strong western revolution would have led to another round of Igbo agitation...you guys chose to be insulting Abacha and ibb from London and wherever else your leaders ran to. The few that stayed behind were writing newspaper articles...smh

There was another opportunity to put the Hausa aggressors in their place in 2015...again you guys played sophisticated politics.

So here we are, arguing about whether hausas terrorists kill yorubas too or only igbos...when our two ethnic nations would have been building modern, progressive African Republics

oyatz:
I strongly advise you to read wide.



Virtually all countries started as multiethnic Kingdoms/Empires with different degrees of heterogeneity.

The United States, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Malaysia, Indonesia, Spain, Ethiopia,South Africa,France,China all started as heterogeneous Countries and many are still heterogeneous Countries till date.





Nigeria can exist as one Nigeria, IF the Nigerian people AGREE for it to exist as such and define the rules for such existence.

Pre-Colonial African States such as the Ghana, Songhai , Mali and Oyo Empires are Shining examples of multi-ethnic African Countries with varying degrees of civilizations.

If the people of Nigeria don't agree, it's better to divide the countries to smaller States.

every body in Nigeria knows the Igbos went to war In order not to be part of Nigeria. Nationalism is highest in the east and if not for fear of another round of genocide, our leaders (who fought as child soldiers in 1967) would have officially backed Biafra. Has this simple fact and the IPOB movement ever made the Hausa and yoruba controlled FG to ask Igbos if they want to be a part of Nigeria or not? When GEJ attempted to do that with the 2014 confabulation, was the northern leaders of thought not shouting that unity of Nigeria is non negotiable? Did el rufai not popularly say that GEJ was like a mad man with a lighter at a petrol station?
Was war not threatened if GEJ should go ahead and include break up in the confab topics?
How did Nigeria accept to live together?

Now to your insinuation that The United States, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Malaysia, Indonesia, Spain, Ethiopia,South Africa,France,China...
Let me ask you....is there any country there in that list that has a near 50-50 Christian/Muslim population? All those countries are either majority (85%) Christian or Muslim or traditional believes. That is what makes Nigeria a very complex country. There is no dominant culture...just a bunch of cultures fighting for dominance. Apart from Ethiopia and south Africa which are both not great countries, every other countries there have a national language, culture, identity and orientation. If two Nigerians from east and west meet abroad, they will be speaking English. We have no nation. What we have is a geographic location.

If GEJ was allowed to Carry out his mission in the confab, then we will know how many ethnic groups or regions in Nigeria want to remain in Nigeria. For now, we are under neo colonialism and that is why Nigeria will NEVER be a great country

Cirilla:
Arewa... U people are intelligent but lacked wisdom. The current Global setting don't entertain Secessionist so we will use one nigeria for our own interests, Which Islamic State of Arewa

azeez532 I'm sure you are the one who liked this post because she wants to promote an Islamic state...

Just look at our fellow 'nigerians'
Any igbo man supporting one Nigeria is an slowpoke

oyatz:
And how does that relate to the subject matter under consideration?






Part of the attributes of great men is that they have a good sense of judgement.

Good sense of Judgement include the capacity to CORRECTLY identify what is the problem, who are working with or against you, the appropriate solutions and very importantly the differences between your enemies, opponents and competitors.





You have been shouting Afonjas up and down, whipping up hatred against the Yoruba people and castigating the 'North' as the problem of Nigeria for long. . .Has this method really worked? Don't you think you need to change your strategy?

it's not a strategy. It simply exposing facts. Whether it works or not is for posterity to decide

oyatz:
You seems to have a fixed mindset which appears not open to new/other view points.




How did you arrive that I support one Nigieria or I am against one Nigeria?

Is 'One Nigeria' the sole reason of our underdevelopment as a people?

Why do Africans love to blame others (other tribes, their step mothers, witches, Government, Satan or even God etc) for their shortcomings and rarely likes to take responsibility for their actions and/inactions?

one Nigeria is the main reason for our underdevelopment. That you don't realise why is a big shame.

Check the most developed African countries, they are all homogeneous...having the same mother tongue and culture. From the Arabic north Africans to Namibia and Botswana... Black people don't have the intelligence to build a successful multi ethnic nation

fk001:
Some people are just craxy, They are bashing Tinubu just because his political ideology is different from theirs.


Same people voted for Atiku a Fulani man but because Tinubu support another Fulani man and he won that's the genesis of their hatred towards him.

We can't all be in the same political party Na.

it's not about Fulani...yaradua was a Fulani man and even Igbos rate him high

Buhari represents a painful past and an uninspiring future...he belongs to the dark military era. APC and Tinubu had options in 2015 primary to go for either atiku or roachas or even the isiah man...they went for a very wicked, unrepentant tribalist who came to further deepen ethnic division. Just imagine where Nigeria would have been now without the obvious hate in the political atmosphere

oyatz:
Most of the riots in the North which they portrayed as 'religious riots' actually some forms of xenophobic riots hiding under the cover of religion.










If you look very well, you will hardly hear of Religious crisises in Zamfara, Sokoto or Jigawa States because these States have about 98% indigenous population.

Shari'ah /Religious riots appear to be common only in States with high population of non-indigenes and/or heterogeneous States like Kaduna & Plataeu States.

lol...the north is naturally violent bro...zamfara has been at war since 2015... This violence simply stems from upbringing.
A family that has 21 kids can not be expected to train all of them well ...and also Islam itself has some fundamental problems that you easily see in the middle East ..
You may be loving one Nigeria today...but trust me, your descendants would blame you for not revolting against one Nigeria today

Our fathers made the mistake in 1957...today we blame them.
You are making the mistake today... tomorrow your kids will blame you.

Somalia will be a child's play las las...by 2050 Nigeria will be over 300 million people.... without oil...lol issorai

fk001:
The hate is mutual

how many times have northerners been killed in riots in the south east? It's not mutual ....the north seem to be champions of the hate...boko haram is still raging and fulani herdsmen are still there as legacies of pure, unadulterated northern wickedness

salam8528:
The same history that u and ur people do not want to tell the world about the Genesis of the civil war. U killed top Northern leaders and spears ur own and u are claiming the victim.
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FYI, if what u people are saying about the North is true there don't have been any other tribe and religion in the North . No local govt in the North that u will not see a church but there are local govt in the North that there are no mosques, its fact.

lol...there is no body in Nigeria who doesn't know about north's religious extremism... have we even talked about boko haram or Fulani herdsmen?
Who in Nigeria doesn't know the Kaduna, Jos, kano, Maiduguri crisis?

T9ksy:
.......or the eclipse of the moon? Or when America decided to invade afganistan in response to 9/11? This set off another "northern conflict" whereby as a show of solidarity with their muslim brothers descended on southern nigerians in the north.

Interestingly enough, not a single white man, never mind an American was touched in the north throughout the melee but hundreds of southerners were butchered by their so-called fellow countrymen

you forgot the miss world bruhaha in 2006 Abuja

oyatz:
Afonjas refers to the S/West and has nothing to do with NORTH which is being discussed here.



Must you bring in Yorubas/Afonja in every discussion? Why are you always mentioning and seeing Yoruba in ALL that you do or see?

because the north knew their places until 1967 when yorubas started to support them. Yorubas are complicit in this problem