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TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by shanaka29: 7:23pm On Feb 13, 2019
Amaka6934:
Good day my people, I've been following this thread from the beginning and it has helped me alot. But abeg I need help
I applied for my ist US Visa in 2015, I was about 6months pregnant and I fully declared my intention and was granted my Visa. I had my ist baby in Dallas and used MCA, in total I paid almost 11k. I also had a 2nd baby in 2017 in Houston used st luke chi and dr f. I paid about 7k5. I also collected all my receipts and zero balance and everything. I didn't overstay or use any insurance of any kind,paid all my Bill's. Fast forward to renewal of my Visa,did drop box and was invited for an interview. I was actually very shocked and speechless , it was so fast that before I could react it was over and I was denied. The vo was visibly upset infact she was RED. I was so scared thought I had committed a crime. Here's a transcript of what transpired. I wasn't pregnant at the time just wanted to renew it so applied for b1/b2 Visa.
Interview was in Abuja
Vo. Good morning
Me .good morning
Vo can I have your passport
Me. Hands it over
Vo how many times have you visited the us
Me twice in 2015 and 2017 both purposes for child birth.
(This was where everything scattered, she was typing then she looked up gradually started turning red)
Vo you were issued a Visa to have one baby and you decided to have 2 babies how convenient
Me was confused at this point was wondering if it was illegal) since it was for the same purpose and I got pregnant again and could afford the bills
Vo( she kept on repeating one Visa 2 babies, very convenient. Said this like 5 times and typing as well)
Me I was told it's ok as long as you can afford it and I paid all my bills and I'm with my receipts
Vo are you pregnant
Me no
Vo do you intend to have more babies in the us?
Me for now no, I have a boy and girl and blah blah
Vo (nodding her head in disgust like superstory ) so the only times you entered the us was to have babies
Me yes, I paid all my Bill's and I have all my receipts
Vo let me see
Me. I hand them over ( started explaining, paid about 11k for the ist blah blah
She cuts me
Vo why where you given discount
Me trying to explain self pay blah blah
Vo you were given discount, I put it to you that you used insurance
She was already so red with anger, me self do give up tire self cause it's obvious she was looking for fault
Me I didn't you can see it clearly written no insurance was used self pay
We argued back and forth when she saw she wasn't making sense she moved to the other bill. Immediately she saw it was from dr.f
Vo aha you went to dr f right,
Me yes
At this point she started typing, the only bills she used to type whatever in her computer was dr f own,she then hands me the pink form and said a bunch of rubbish me I already packed all my things cause me I don vex too.

My question is, 1.has anyone experienced this kinda thing with dr fs package, do they have anything against him?
2. Was I wrong to have used the Visa for the same purpose twice as that's what really ticked her off
3. I'm expecting now and intend to travel again, my husband wants to go for the interview to also renew his Visa but he didn't use the last one he was issued, it was a training but it was later done in Nigeria and being busy never really had the time to travel. Is it wise to apply with him or go alone .
Please I need answers on how to proceed a new doctor since dr f, didn't seem to go down well with her.
Thanks everyone.
Don’t know about VOs but I used Houston POE 3 years ago and 2 officers made very sarcastic comments about Dr F. They know him, they know about this board too. My personal feeling is that using Dr F. is not a plus, au contraire
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by shanaka29: 10:24am On Feb 09, 2019
gosky1:
Hi People,I will appreciate your advice please. My elder brother stayed in the US for 5 months and two weeks on a B1/B2 Visit visa and he did stay that long because he had a severe stress disorder and the family advised him to go for a long vacation,he stayed with our kid sis and her family in Dallas. I got an information that he cannot cross the point of entry for a visit again because of the long stay and i am confused because he did not overstay the 180 days,he did not commit any crime or worked while in the US and his visa is still valid for 10 months. Does any have a clue on how to deal with this? he is planning to visit again in 5 months time
Hi
B1/B2 are for tourism or business trip. And yes the holder can stay up to 6 months but it’s also a bit suspicious that anyone would go on a vacation for almost 6 months in a row.
If your brother didn’t work or commit any crime he can’t be barred to go back in a few months but he will probably face a lot of questioning upon arrival.
I know a person who was sent back because she stayed for 6 months, left and tried to come back after 2 or 3 months. The POE officer said she can’t be a tourist if she’s planning on spending 10 months in a year in the US.
If I were him, I would just stay away for a year and apply for a new visa... unless he’s actually trying to settle there
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by shanaka29: 8:36am On Feb 07, 2019
Hi everyone,

Glad to be back on this board grin

I used it 3 years ago and it was very helpful.
I had my baby girl in Houston using Dr. Fab.

My POE experience was awful (that was my own doing since I only had 2500$ in cash but more than enough on my a bank account).
I finally got in after 8hrs in secondary inspection. My detailed story is somewhere on here cry .

Thank God, the rest of the journey was a breeze. Had a CS, paid all the bills, collected all the paperwork and left before my ESTA expiration date.

I’m planning another trip this year (God willing by the end of the year). I wanted to have recent feedbacks from people who used dr Fab or Houston POE. It seems like the current climate is really not in our favor and Texas has always been tougher than most states

I’m considering using JFK instead and making a domestic connection. Would that look suspicious to the CBP ?

Thank guys and may God bless us all
RomanceRe: Baby Daddy Back by shanaka29(op): 1:33pm On Sep 11, 2017
@nursennenny don’t worry, that won’t happen. Fool me once… wink
RomanceRe: Baby Daddy Back by shanaka29(op): 1:31pm On Sep 11, 2017
What my heart wants is to have him back because it would be in our daughter’s best interest but I won’t hide behind her, it would also be for me, because I still love him.

What my reason tells me is to be cautious. Maybe he doesn’t want to pay child support for the next 18 years or so. Or maybe he’s just trying to take advantage of the situation (he knows how I (still) feel for him). And let say he is sincere, what he did in the past showed me how selfish and mean he can be. Isn’t that his true nature? What if we have another disagreement in the future, if he meets someone new or if I get sick??

I already told him to go apologize to both my parents beforehand (my mum lives in the EU like us but my Dad is back home). He said “he’s too afraid to go to my mum and he needs time”… His answer kind of showered my hopes. I can’t imagine bringing up marriage, I guess I better move on sad
RomanceBaby Daddy Back by shanaka29(op): 11:20am On Sep 11, 2017
Hi all,

I got pregnant with my BF after 5 years of dating and a lot of promises. It was not an accident, he was the one who brought it up first and we actively tried for months before I got pregnant.
I know I was stupid to get pregnant before marriage but that’s another subject.

When I told him about the pregnancy, he freaked out, said he was not ready and wanted me to get rid of “it”. I refused and he bailed on us.
I went through pregnancy alone, had to face my family and struggled with my baby for months. I tried to reach out, talked to his best friend and his sisters. That made him even angrier and he didn’t budge.

I had to drag him to justice when the baby was 6 months old but still, for months he refused to talk to me or see her. 1 year into the process, the judge finally ordered a DNA test. We met at the lab and he saw his daughter for the first time there sad
I don’t know if it was the vision of the child or if he had planned to talk to me anyway but he did and apologized and asked me if he could come and visit his daughter.

Since then, he’s been visiting her every other weekend, playing with her, bringing gifts etc.
He finally added his name to her birth certificate, started paying child support (a substantial amount) not only from now own but also for the past 22 months.
All in all, he’s making up to his daughter.

Now, he’s also trying to win me back and I’m really torn about that. On one hand, I still have feelings for him and I guess I still want the “perfect family” I always wanted for my daughter. On the other hand, what he did, for more than 2 years is despicable. Not only did he abandoned me with a pregnancy he begged for, but he had no problem living his life knowing that he had a child somewhere that he had never seen.
I don’t even know why he did that…I told him before I can even think about getting back with him he needed to go to my family and apologized. He said he’s too afraid to go now and need time.
If he does, eventually, should I give him a shot, make marriage a prerequisite or move on?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by shanaka29: 11:12am On May 17, 2017
hello all,

back on this thread and I just want to start with a big thank you to all of you.
I used this board 2 years ago and was able to deliver a little princess in Houston.You can find
my story in the previous parts.

Hopefully a 2nd missionnary journey will follow soon (still praying and TTC)

In the mean time, my baby sister is already in Houston and looking for a new place to stay.
She's due in 2 months and need a place for 5 months.

Do you know about anyone willing to share a place ?

thanks
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 11:16pm On Nov 09, 2015
favoredgal:
@shanaka29..... Hmm. Guess you traveled with Esta..... Glad they let you in. Rest well o! And safe delivery
exactly! thanks dear.
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 11:08pm On Nov 09, 2015
bbiz:
Hello Shanaka29, how are you doing? Welcome to Houston, like others have stated, I think staying with family would have been more helpful but we shouldn't force it on you because you may have reasons for your decision. If NL will permit me to say, I still have room available and don't mind you sharing my space with me as a roommate for the 31/2 weeks you wish to stay. Since I am still currently looking for roommate.
NL hope this is okay? just want to be sure am not going against the rules?
hi Bbiz, can we inbox ?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 10:04pm On Nov 09, 2015
ozycy:
kpele. Thank GOD you scaled through. I was also detained for 8 hours in Houston early 2014. They told me the money I had cannot foot my bills bla bla bla after delaying me for so long but finally left me. Is it your first time in USA? I think dey usually delay first timers more especially when its having baby issh. I may be wrong dou. And you probably entered the wrong hands.
I actually travelled with lesser amount this time, and didn't waste so much time in the secondary inspection.
Ok, so here's my story. Mum and I flew AF and arrived in Houston around 3 PM a little more than a week ago.
It took less than 15 mn for us to get in front of the CBP.
CBP: Hello, what are you here for?
Me; vacation and childbirth
CBP: childbirth? how long are you planning to stay ?
Me: XX weeks...
CBP: OK, your mother is ok to go but i'll need you to follow my colleague
for more questions

I was cool with the secondary inspection thing cause I was expecting it and was prepared. Thought it would be a formality but ended up sitting there for more than 4h before anyone talked to me.
One officer finally called me around 8:30 pm

CBP: what are you here for?
Me: childbirth
CBP: have you contacted a dr yet ?
Me: yes, I have the correspondence here (took out my folder with all my paper work: budget sheet, Dr correspondence, bank statements, salary slips etc.)
CBP: give me the folder. how much cash do you have ?
Me: 2500 $
CBP (literally laughed at me) : do you know childbirth costs at least 7 K$ here ?
Me: yes I know, I have more than enough on my cards, you can see my bank statements...
CBP: We don't care about bank statements, we want to see the cash
I started sweating cry
he went in the back and I heard him telling is supervisor that I had only 2.5 K$ in cash but enough on my account.
Then he came back and said:
CBP: i'm sorry mam but you'll have to take a sit in the back and wait for an officer to call you
Me: how much longer will I have to wait ?
CBP: I can't tell you exactly but you'll be here for a while
Me: ok can I make a call then ?
CBP: No, you can call your family after an officer talks to you
If you need to go to the restroom here it is, if you're hungry, just ask

I waited for 4 more hours before another officer called me. He asked me the same questions over again, asked me to log into my bank account to show him my balance then asked me to log into my email account and let him see the exchanges with the dr.
Then a third guy came by and he asked him to take my case so he could move to another one. He filled the guy up right in front of me and said "she's going with the famous dr F." the 3rd guy said "who else ?" and asked me to follow him in a box.

He started asking the same questions all over again, told me he was about to clear me and lectured me about paying all my bills etc.
I was finally out around 1 am.

During my time in there, 2 Nigerian ladies were sent back, one ended up in hospital but some were cleared within an hour while I had to wait forever.

If I can give you people my humble opinion:
1- bring as much cash as you can, you'll avoid a lot of trouble if you can show hard cash
2- know that Dr F is kind of targeted there
3- know that they follow this forum and don't like it at all
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 8:04pm On Nov 09, 2015
shrekandfiona:
Don't you think you'll need your relatives more when baby arrives? Why moving out then and you may not get a new accommodation that will accept just 3weeks plus rentals from you o
I'm here with my mum and we're staying with my lil sis and her husband. They're very kind and helpful but mum and I are not comfortable with abusing their hospitality. A new born is a lot to deal with undecided
I know it's hard to find a new place for such a short time hence my question here.
If anyone has a plan...
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 1:38am On Nov 09, 2015
Hi people,

finally got into Houston a week ago.
Had an awful POE story, had to spend 8h in detention huh ==> bottom line : don't show up there with less than 7 to 8 k$ in HARD CASH[i][/i]
my detailed story is on the way.
I will be staying with relatives for 3 weeks but after the baby comes, I would like to find a new accommodation for 3 and a half weeks
Any suggestion please ?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 11:21pm On Oct 24, 2015
firsttymum:
why won't you? Is it that u don't av more than that for now or u don't like travelling with cash.

If u don't have more than that for now... Is risky cos it also means ur statement won't suffice and then if you r asked to prove u av cash ( a mother here had to sign into her account to prove she had money in her account) u won't b able to.

But if it's that u don't like to carry money... Then fine... These people know our PTA limit is 4k.. So print ur statements.. Raise d money with u to 4k. Nd b ready to prove u av Money in ur account.

Guess what there r people they don't even bother with what they have.. While there are some they stress a whole lot. At the end na God favor jare
Very poor management of my situation here oooo embarassed. I had an emergency few days ago and had to use a big part of my money.
Now i was hoping my last salary would pass before travel day but that's unlikely now.
I'm so stressed about the all situation. I have more then enough on my savings account but my checking account will be almost empty.
Do you think the saving statement will do the trick ?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 12:50am On Oct 23, 2015
hi people,
just realised i won't be able to carry more than 3K $ for my trip. People on this thread usually carry huge amounts (7-15K$)
do you think it's risky to have so little in cash and tell them that i have the rest on my cards (& don't like travelling with too much cash )
could they turn me back because of that ? undecided
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 4:03pm On Oct 14, 2015
favoredgal:
JFK isn't the breeze through everyone think it is o! Read back last few pages of part 2. Someone even got deported from JFK

That said I don't think there is anything wrong in that answer. Despite anything we say; the VO; the Cbp know we are all there for the Pali
I'm flying AF and Houston will be my POE. I'll be 34+ weeks so not so many options.
I thing telling the blank truth could hurt so i'm gonna go the "better health care" route and try to say somme BS about a crappy experience with european drs ... and pray undecided
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 3:52pm On Oct 14, 2015
[quote author=Lialian post=38916136][/quote]Hi Lialian,

Sorry for being late to answer. I heard about budget sheet on this forum. It's (for what i understand) a self-made thing.
If you have a doctor's correspondence with expected cost to back it, it's better.
Someone kindly posted a template on the forum and i used it to do my own (see the attachment)

Besides, since you're also traveling from the UK, do you have any advice about what to answer when the CBP officers asks why come to the US to give birth ? I'm really freaking out cry
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 3 by shanaka29: 1:10am On Oct 11, 2015
Amother4life:
Since you are coming from a country that participates in the visa waiver program ( the European Union I presume) I would humbly suggest you refrain from using the popular slogan " because of better health care" for obvious reasons when asked why you decided to birth in the United States. There is really no "safe "POE anymore but there is always the grace of God . Goodluck
What do you suggest me to say instead ?
Do you think being bold and saying: "because i want dual citizenship for my baby" would be OK or could bring me trouble ? embarassed
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 2:45pm On Oct 10, 2015
Chizzyzobby:
Hi Houston mamas

Apart from the notification of intent,doctors correspondance and cash,
What else can one need at the Poe. I intend to enter from Atlanta.
Pls answer me lovely mamas I need answers ASAP .
Kind of ask the same thing before o.
Please ?

shanaka29:
Last point, i will be traveling with my mother and we both are on visa waiver program.
i'm planning on taking:
- our esta confirmations
- Dr emails (including cost breakdown)
- my budget sheet (around 8.5 K$ for c-section)
- 6 K$ in cash
- my last bank statement (with more or less 5 K$ net balance)
- my saving plan statement (15 K$)
- my last 3 salary slips
we will be staying with relatives.

Do i need anything else for POE ?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 8:21pm On Oct 09, 2015
Hi Houston mamas,

can anyone give me Dr A.'s contact and cost breakdown ?
I was planning on using dr F. but all the bad reviews are giving me cold feet about him.
BTW, i emailed him and he said i could not show up any later than 35 weeks.
I can't afford a flight any sooner than in my 35th week. Could i still get accepted by dr A. if i'm like 36 weeks + 1 day ?

Last point, i will be traveling with my mother and we both are on visa waiver program.
i'm planning on taking:
- our esta confirmations
- Dr emails (including cost breakdown)
- my budget sheet (around 8.5 K$ for c-section)
- 6 K$ in cash
- my last bank statement (with more or less 5 K$ net balance)
- my saving plan statement (15 K$)
- my last 3 salary slips
we will be staying with relatives.

Do i need anything else for POE ?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 4:11pm On Oct 05, 2015
julzz:
Hi everyone, here goes my poe story. Flew united to houston on 1st oct landed 5am their time

Cbp- Sit down,so what are you here for.
Me- vacation and to have my baby.
Cbp- you can not be vacationing and also having a baby, vacation is going to the beach,club blab blab....so come out straight with me.
Me- Since baby is not due till nov,i was going to sight see....
Cbp- cuts me, you are to have a baby,cos I can see that already (looking at his system)
Me- (smiles)ok, im here to have my baby.
Cbp- better,so why did you choose to have your baby here?
Me- because US ranks top in obstetric care(got that line on Nairaland).
Cbp- (looks at my passport) but you were born in Nigeria in 198- and i know since you were born till date, the health care there must have improved.
Me- I just want the best for my baby.

Cbp- No,you want the citizenship for you baby that's your primary reason .
Me- No,that's my secondary reason,i want the best health care for us.
This POE thing is getting really scary undecided. I'm about to use houston in two weeks with my mother.
To the question "why are you here?" I plan to answer: "to have my baby", period.
But i don't know how to handle the why in the USA? I guess the "better health care system" argument does not work in my case. I live in Belgium...
What do you recommend ?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 11:08pm On Sep 22, 2015
Toks07:
What you need is God's favour and prayers for POE. 6K is enough, just tell them you have enough in your account and show them your master card. We went with 4k and God grant us favour. It is well and you will share your testimony too.
Thanks Toks07. Keep us in your prayers smiley
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 10:17pm On Sep 22, 2015
Hi everyone,

I'm planning on leaving in a few days (POE Houston, God willing) but i won't be carrying more than 6K $ in cash.
I have more than twice as much on my saving account and will take the statements with me.
I'll be using Oakbend and the total bill will be between 8 and 10 K$.
Do you think that's enough to calm those CBP officers ?
Thanks
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 3:58am On Sep 09, 2015
Hi family,

can anyone please help me find a cheap hospital in/close to houston Tx for a c-section (for about 7000$ - 8000 $) ?

@Nogen can we PM ?

tanks !!!
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 11:47pm On Sep 05, 2015
Hi everyone,

did anyone use Doctores Parati at el paso recently ?
Can you give me any feed back ? Their package is 6900$ for a c-section, any hidden cost to be aware of ?
What about the quality of their facilities ?
Last question, can you give me tips on a good and cheap accomodation close to the clinic ?

Thanks
TravelSeeking Dual Citizenship US- E.U. For Your Child by shanaka29(op): 6:28pm On Aug 21, 2015
Hi everyone,

My hubby and i are both E.U citizen and are expecting our first child.
Since the very beginning, hubby suggested that i give birth in the US.
I said why not, if we can afford it why not give our baby more options in life ?
Now tho, the pregnancy is complicated and giving birth in the US could cost us thousands of dollars (vs 0 in europe).
We could end up with a bank loan to cover the fees.
Do you think it's worth it ?
Is US citizenship that important for a EU citizen when you don't live there, just for a "backup" or "bonus" option for the future ?
TravelRe: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by shanaka29: 4:00pm On Aug 21, 2015
Hi guys,

i hope you can help a sister here. I'm due mid november and was planning to use El paso birth center.
The catch is that i've been diagnosed with a low lying placenta, hence, preventive c-section for me at 37 weeks mandatory.
Problem is i'm at risk of hemorrhage at any point in the third trimester and God forbid, if it happens before 37 weeks, the baby would be premature and need extra care.
So now we have 3 major problems:
- Pray that nothing happens (bleeding and stuff) and for our lo to stick as long as possible for her own sake
- Assess if it would be reasonnable to fly long distance with a placenta preavia
- Figure out if we could afford the extra cost of having a premature baby that could need up to a month longer in hospital
Can anyone give us any advice on how to handle this ?

Thanks and God bless !
RomanceMarrying An Old Friend by shanaka29(op): 2:37pm On Dec 11, 2014
hi,

i'm currently single, been for a while now, totally loved it for about a year. Now i feel the urge to have a family of my own. i'm not that young anymore, nor naive so i'm not expecting the "one" anymore.
I'm just looking for a good, family driven man to settle down with. I have a long time friend. We had a crush in high school but i felt like i was to young to date. We lived seperate lives for the past 12 years. He got engaged and had a child but broke up with the mum. Now he's back in my life and ask me to give it a shot.
My problem is that i live in EU and he lives in Africa. He has a job there and a son! Would it be totally foolish for me to start a relationship with this guy ?

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