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openmine:
This was what you said....

and i showed you scriptures that its part of sexual intercourse!

Being evasive wont help your narrative!
It would seem you are not here to know the truth but rather to slander the word of God!

You shd expect that from a pagan. Satan wld by all means try to interpret scriptures so.that he can insert his lies.

openmine:
Really? A pagan?
No wonder he was randomly picking out scriptures haphazardly....smh
Imagine him saying saul was ashamed due to jona's alleged sexual relationship with dave

Wait You don't know that FOLYKAZE is a Pagan? Wow. Pls go through his threads and if you can his posts.

The guy worships demons in shrines but believes they are his dead great great grand pas and mas.

openmine:
I know and i admit this is off topic....My sincere apologies!
However,its salient to enlighten some few benighted folks who feel compunctious about making a simple inquiry from a medical practitioner but prefer to hear lies from fabulists on a forum!


Is Anal Sex Safe?
There are a number of health risks with anal sex, and anal intercourse is the riskiest form of sexual activity for several reasons, including the following:

• The anus lacks the natural lubrication the vagina has. Penetration can tear the tissue inside the anus, allowing bacteria and viruses to enter the bloodstream. This can result in the spread of sexually transmitted infections including HIV. Studies have suggested that anal exposure to HIV poses 30 times more risk for the receptive partner than vaginal exposure. Exposure to the human papillomavirus (HPV) may also lead to the development of anal warts and anal cancer. Using lubricants can help some, but doesn't completely prevent tearing.

• The tissue inside the anus is not as well protected as the skin outside the anus. Our external tissue has layers of dead cells that serve as a protective barrier against infection. The tissue inside the anus does not have this natural protection, which leaves it vulnerable to tearing and the spread of infection.

• The anus was designed to hold in feces. The anus is surrounded with a ring-like muscle, called the anal sphincter, which tightens after we defecate. When the muscle is tight, anal penetration can be painful and difficult. Repetitive anal sex may lead to weakening of the anal sphincter, making it difficult to hold in feces until you can get to the toilet.

• The anus is full of bacteria. Even if both partners do not have a sexually-transmitted infection or disease, bacteria normally in the anus can potentially infect the giving partner. Practicing vaginal sex after anal sex can also lead to vaginal and urinary tract infections.

@FOLYKAZE,Come over and read and be enlightened.

FOLYKAZE:
Oga shut up. People engage in anal sex worldwide, there is no harm in it.

You can read many views from married couples about anal sex here https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/8rdhnk/so_whats_the_real_deal_with_anal_sex_is_it_safe/

From those different viewpoints, it shows that anal sex is harmless and the best alternative to penile-vagina penetration safe both parties are infection free

According to a satan worshiper who does not regard the opinions of YHWH.

Oga, retreat into your shrine, when we need any consultation from the Ancestors, we shall contact you. Here is Christianity, where what Jesus says comes first, not what satanist say or do.

alBHAGDADI:
No source ever linked Ghandi to Christianity. He was Hindu who said:

“I’d be a Christian if it were not for the Christians.’”

In Buddhism there is a saying, “Don’t confuse the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself.” This means the finger pointing at the moon teaches us that although someone points to the moon to show us the truth of its luminosity, the finger pointing is not the moon itself.

As seen above, he said it with his own mouth that he rejected Christianity.

He also gave reason for rejecting Christianity.

“…to be a good Hindu also meant that I would be a good Christian. There is no need for me to join your creed to be a believer in the beauty of the teachings of Jesus or try to follow His example.”



By saying David was a devout Judaizer, you simply imply that Judaism allowed for hating of sinners or enemies and that Jesus came to change that. No, loving enemies has always been an old testament teaching. Remember how in the old testament we are told that if we see an enemy's sheep going astray, we should help bring it back.

Exodus 23:4
If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again.

It is that same teaching Jesus touched on in Mathew 5 because the people had forgotten it and were carried away by the lie that they were to hate their enemy.

Mathew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

He simply said we shouldn't repay them with the evil they visit us with but do good unto them. How you managed to twist these passage to suit Mahatma Ghandi's words of loving sinners and making it look biblical is what I don't know.

I don't want to argue with you, so I will leave you with this test:

Which of the two statements was made by a Bible prophet?

1.) Hate the sin, love the sinner


2.) Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love. And, the fruit of the Evil Spirit is Pride.

In pride you find hatred. That fruit shd not be found in you if you call yourself a Christian.

What OKcornel said is very true. Pls put your eyes on Jesus and the teachings of the epistles, you'd see that you ought not to hate anyone, anyone.

You can't have love and hate inside of you at the same time. it will be like water and oil, light and darkness mixing together.

MuttleyLaff:
Yes, I hate the thief, I hate him for being a thieving bastard. I vividly remember in 1995, waking up and walking down the street to where I parked my beautiful waxed black colored VW Golf Gti Mark II, couldn't find it in slot I parked. I walked both ends of the street, only for to dawn on me that my beloved car has been stolen. I remember how I hated the person that violated me by stealing this loved car. I remember also prior to this, on two separate occasions, when the windows of same car, was smashed, just for some thieving bastard to take out my removable car hi-fi, go to my boot, rummaged through to take away the high performance speakers in there.


I straightaway answered your question about hating a thief or not, but you couldn't answer the two questions put to you, you just as usual turn evasive

Homosexuality did me no wrong, has done no one anything evil or bad, but thieving, why would anyone take what isn't rightfully theirs, why take another's property without authorisation, hmm?

You need help, you need help with the disorder you have. Homophobia is a disorder, and it can be cured off, only if you are willing to be cured and become a better person

Arsenokoites is not just, male that lies with male. It actually means male sexing males, it means a male hopping from one bed to another bed. It means a homosexual, who is promiscuous, means someone having casual sex with many and different men. It means a homosexual, sleeping around, having multiple sexual partners. Please why don't you want to get the fact right, hmm?



I am glad he did, just shows great minds think alike, hey. alBHAGDADI and I think alike, in spite of whatever difference we might have. I'll still any day, take Jesus' words, teachings and virtues way above and first before Mahatma Gandhi.

Are you changing your words about what you said Arsenokoites was?
Didn't you say it was wrongly used to demonize SS people?

You said Categorically that, even a certain Pastor Artur something, haven really looked into the terms agreed that Apst Paul wasn't talking about homosexuality or men sexing men, but temple Prostitution.
You gave the time when you believed the translation was changed to homosexuality.

You accused Apst Paul of changing the term and made it look like God was against homosex when in fact, He isn't.

I kept calling you back to tell me what the Act of men sexing men was called, instead of trying to bury it in terms like Arsenokoites and the other terms you pulled up. What did you say 'SSR is not homosexuality, but 'SSR.
Like Homo, doesn't mean 'the same'.

Now you been caught, you admit Arsenokoites is men sexing men, but the ones which jump around.

MuttleyLaff, it's not about the gallivanting of the men, but the Act or pattern of sex they choose.

MuttleyLaff:
This is shoddy, this isn't acceptable, this is mediocre. Nwanne, brother please, if you have proof and evidence of me plagiarising other people's content, please, please, as a man full of honor and integrity, paste it here verbatim for the whole wide world to see and that you and I can both carefully examine what you've presented as exhibits and we both cross-check for evidence of me alleged to have copied and pasted. If you are unable to, then do the right thing of withdrawing and retracting this your funny old smear campaign, in addition of a follow up apology for the slander and malicious lies.

Wait!!! Did you forget that I called your attention to it, but you claimed you wrote the same thing because you both have great minds which thinks and says the same thing?

OKcornel posted your response to that here, did you forget?

FOLYKAZE:
That is your and opinion, it isn't fact

Lol. That's why I said you have no idea what this is. You are a pagan, so leave us alone.

When it concerns ATR you are an authority there, not here.

OkCornel:
Don't think everyone here has a short memory.

This was what you typed on this thread some days back;




After you were caught red handed plagiarizing from a site... "great minds think alike" and "the content to be a coincidence" was the pitiable defense you could come up with?

Yet he still wants me to post his words, even when he admitted that it was a coincidence that both of them said the same thing, phrasing their words in the same manner.

From that site a certain pastor Arthur something something, was quoted to have agreed that Paul was indeed not talking about homosexuality but temple Prostitution.

The way it was said there, he repeated the same way here.

MuttleyLaff no know say lying Na sin before God. What do I know? he may even tell me that there're right kind of lies, just like there's a right and acceptable kind of Masturbation and smoking weed

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, are you scared of pasting both my comments and those of your Rev. Turner here, for all to see, so we can together carefully examine and cross check, if I had plagiarised any content off his website, hmm?

But I just posted the website for interested folks to go in there and see for themselves. Unlike you who is hiding scriptures, I posted a link.

MuttleyLaff:
What part of NO, don't you understand, erhn? Is it by force, to tell you ni? I said, you haven't proved yourself worthy yet, to have that information. Please forget that one. Go sleep on it.

Yet there's an Elephant in the room that I am missing.

Oga Na, shame small.

MuttleyLaff:
All I see here, is a drowning man, clutching at any available water reed in sight, desperately trying to remain or stay afloat, with head above water. From Rev. Turner to Aleister Crowley... I wonder who else from your excessive wild imagination and fantasy, you will try associate me with next, hmm?

Shepherd00 is only interested in salacious fakes news, rumours and make believes. Never remotely interested in the elephants in the room, I've so far, introduced him and the thread to.

Look at that? A man who is so well read does not or has never heard of Sir Aleister Crowley. MuttleyLaff, you can lie eh.

And, which Elephant are you talking about? Lolzzzzz. There's no single Rat in this your room (thread). If there was, that verse in Isaiah wld've come out.

MuttleyLaff:
It's called being responsible, by not handing over something to someone not trained or worthy yet to have it. You're not going to be given it, you cant touch it. It can, the day that you touch it, kill you, that's why.

I can quote Aleister Crowley saying this same thing to his lieutenant. Hmmmmmmm MuttleyLaff.

You dey hide scripture now?

MuttleyLaff:
Well, that's where you got it wrong. Its from many and different discussusions, I've had with my missus, family members, friends, acquaintances, people I've casually bumped with on the road and innocently we talked about all sorts, then gay issues crept into the discussion etcetera. OkCornel, tbh with the sources are varied, I would know when and where, all I know it got formulated from those experiences and especially, like I've earlier told you on Page 27, of course with the aid of my Teacher, nudging and egging me on in right directions.

Its not hard. It actually is easy, peasy, lemon squeezy, only that because of the pips in the lemon, you cant have the scriptures OkCornel. Again sorry about that and nothing personal. It called being responsible, not to hand over something to someone not trained or worthy yet to have it. Now stop behaving like a broken record, bleating and repeating yourself for it. Behave now.

You know MuttleyLaff. I think you are subtly propagating what Aleister Crowley advocated, but mildly.

You promote homosexuality, he did.

You promote Masturbation, he did.

You promote the use of Narcotics or (High drugs), he did.

What else are you not telling us?

Are you an Occult hiding inside Church?

MuttleyLaff:
One out of two right. Not bad Shepherd00, I did say, I've become warming up to you, didnt I. Looks like you want to be consistent. I think I need to be giving you more attention than anyone else for now. You unconsciously are learning, and increasing learning fast. That is impressive and you can take it as a compliment. Watch out someone will covet that glory and shine on, would want to share a part of it. You've been forwarned. Thats what moGs do, to forwarn just like I do.

It doesnt work like that Shepherd00. This is how it works, when you say one thing, the clever person understands three. The clever person, is able, capable and so smart enough, to join the dots I've put down and then see the emerged picture.

Abeg, show me were YHWH commended the homosexuals and promised them anything. Where did Jesus praised them? Stop this rigmarole

MuttleyLaff:
Yeah! Please do Shepherd00. Do you know what in Yoruba, is called "arodan"?
Well OkCornel is egging you, to go on a fruitless and futile "arodan". There is no road there, because you wouldnt find all and what I wrote up there about "arsenokoites" online or anyone's websites for that matter. Sorry to burst your bubble. I am ever so sorry for shattering and destroying your illusions about that.

Anyone who wants to catch MuttleyLaff hands down shd type www.gaychristians101.com. you wld see verbatim what MuttleyLaff copied pasted here.

When I brought it to his attention before, he claimed, they were like mines thinking and writing the exact same things. They used the same phrased, framed sentences he same way.

Rev. Turner of "The Church With out Walls", is MuttleyLaff's right hand man.

FOLYKAZE:
Is it that you can't read?

I said: According to the bible, it is wrong then to marry a man as such act doesn't lead to procreation.

Meaning in the past, the essence of sexual intercourse is procreation. Since homosexuality isn't a sexual form of procreation, people in the past conclude it is wrong.

I won sleep abeg.ola lojo

No. Homosexuality was not condemned because it thwarted posterity. It was condemned because it is a form of worship to satan, as sex between a man and woman inside marriage is a form of worship to YHWH.

Homosexuality opens up portals for demons to be released into this realm.

Go do a research on Sir Alister Crowley. He was one satanist who didn't hide anything about these things. Today's Satanists try to hide their activities, but he didn't.

OkCornel:
Hahahaha...

Muttley...so;

1) You don't have sources to your interpretation of Arsenokytes?

2) You don't have one example of same sex marriage from the scriptures? Your latest excuse is that I am not ready for it?


TV01, Openmine, Shepherd00... see where we are o...

Maybe I shd post where he lifted that 'Arsenokytes' concept from.

MuttleyLaff:
I've told you already, that my cheese is made from many cows milked at different farm dairies. I have passages on each side of the Bible, showing evidences of God not frowning at SSA relationships, unfortunately, just as I've told Shepherd00, you guys arent ready and/or havent proven yourselves worthy enough to be entrusted with that information. Sorry about that.

Hahahahahahaha. Okay, the passage in Isaiah you claimed YHWH promised to reward the homosexuals and the one the Lord Jesus Highly praised homosexuality abi?

I don tell you before, no post dem becos of me, do am for your silent audience. they'd want some closure that what they are doing is okay by God. Isn't that what you opened this thread to do?

MuttleyLaff:
No, not only source, I'll give sauce, pepper and salt with it too

The best way to hide something from OkCornel, Shepherd00, openmine etcetera is to put it as a long talk or in a long post. Shame....

Ah, this court jester.

OkCornel:
SAME SEX MARRIAGE IN THE MIDRASH AND THE TALMUD;

The Babylonian Talmud is one of the few ancient religious texts that makes reference to same-sex marriage: "'Ula said: Non-Jews [litt. Bnei Noach, the progeny of Noah] accepted upon themselves thirty mitzvot [divinely ordered laws], but they only abide by three of them: The first one is that they do not write marriage documents for male couples, the second one is that they don't sell dead [human] meat by the pound in stores, and the third one is that they respect the Torah.'"

The Midrash Rabba states: "Rabbi Huna in the name of Rabbi Joseph [said]: "The generation of the flood was not obliterated from the world until they wrote marriage contracts from males and beasts.""


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Judaism



This is another blow to any lie being propagated on consensual same sex relationship/marriage Mr. Knowledgeable Traveling Muttley....


The Talmud also says no to consensual same sex relationship/marriage even amongst the non-Jews...


Cc: Openmine, TV01, Shepherd00

In other words, that generation was wiped out as they began writing out marriage contracts for male marriages and human to beasts?

FOLYKAZE:
Don't want to join in this homo discussion. I have read through some pages, and will like to ask you a pertinent question.

Homosexuality as defined by you is ' unnatural desire of a man burning with desire and lust for a fellow man'.

If the definition above is correct, does that mean you are equating Angel (spirit) to Man (flesh)?

Don't take offense in my question, the discussion presently is centred on 'going after strange flesh...',
Has an angel ever been flesh?

My understanding of what about Angel is that they are heavenly beings devoid of blood and flesh. The natural system and feature of a man cannot be found in them, hence they cannot be referred or categorised with men. At such, Angel doesn't fit into definition of homosexuality (sexual desire of man to another man). Also, Angel are not flesh and cannot be categorised under 'strange flesh'.

You may have another angle to Angel been men or flesh, and will appreciate if you can present it.

You are a pagan, this is not your territory sir. And OkCornel didn't say anything, the Bible did.

budaatum:
Went to a philosophical forum once but the theme spokesperson didn't turn up so they decided to discuss the merits of feeding their dogs only vegetables. After a while of healthier dog, better environment, I couldn't help asking how the 18 members of the forum got there and found they got the bus, train and most drove. "Did you all wonder what conditions are like where you get your fuel from?" I asked. It just amazed me that they'd be more concerned at the good they do making vegetarians of their dogs than what they could have done if they'd walked.

Same here. All the girls "being bullied, beaten, shamed, abandoned, rejected, scared for their lives, put to death etcetera"..........

What's the relevance of this with regards to the Op in discuss?

MuttleyLaff:
Don't mind that covetous OkCornel, he is lusting after the small glory I gave you. He wants to be cojoined in the shine, even when he can see that I still asked you to give me Lot's reason for refusing the attempting gang raping. He is jealous because I was generous with you than him. Shepherd00, fyi, Lot gave a reason for the wickedness and for refusing them. What did Lot say, what was the reason he gave for the refusal, aside the obvious wickedness.

What shine?

It wld've been easier if you said what reason Lot gave.

MuttleyLaff:
You are behaving like an ignorant customer asking the shop cashier to tell him which cow the pint of milk, he's bought, was obtained from. This is hilarious, and I am literally just laughing out loud thinking of the whole scene. Look at him asking for source behind what is obvious. You think I milk only one, two, three or four cows before making cheese. Cheese making doesn't work like that matey. Ask TV01, he'll you that you've goofed, and goofed big time.

Now, in your own words, not a third party website sign posting shenanigan again, please give me your best and perfect example what "strange flesh" is, as used in the context Jude made use of the phrase. Thank you.

You didn't post your source tho.

OkCornel:
Did you notice Muttley has been hesitant to provide sources on his interpretation of Arsenokytes?

Dude is giving us flawed and questionable interpretation... which is the bedrock of his argument...

I'm waiting for his response here. I will check from my Hebrew, Greek to England Bible.

MuttleyLaff:
I know people can be slippery as eels. I need to get hold of you by the collar, wrist or trousers, so you won't have any chance of wriggling away to escape me holding and pinning you down. Are you equating strange flesh to be anything else other than being only angels or you equate it to be both for angels and human beings, hmm? Now do you understand why I've been asking for that precious example, hmm, from you?

Guy, you are the slimy one here o.

Did Jude refer to Angels going after strange flesh in that context[b]or men going after strange flesh (unnatural desire asin men sexing men)?

He drew a comparison between the action of what men did with men in Sodom and likened it to what the Fallen Angels did which got them cast into the abyss.

You have a way of twisting words trying to confuse the unfocussed.

OkCornel:
Don't forget to put your source(s) here. Meanwhile, amongst other unanswered questions, we are awaiting your source(s) to the interpretation of Arsenokytes...

MuttleyLaff. this question has been asked several times, why haven't you answered nau?

MuttleyLaff:
I am not scared of nobody, I am scared of no man, so I helped called out his name, for sake of any wondering who you're refering, since you chickenly couldnt bring yourself to outrightly ention his moniker ID

openmine, do you remember Ted Haggard? Do you remember the depth of his hypocrisy? Being cold dead hypocrite in every way? Preaching vile hatred against gays, I guess was preaching to himself, knowing fully well he is one? Well, like I've said, I dont disagree with OkCornel, we agree to disagree, however I reserve my right to disagree with his hypocrisy, which I've made clear what that is.

1/ https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/24#79630518
2/ https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/24#79631067

I'll try and get time to response to those two above openmine URL link posts. I have never seen an elephant fly but two post took the biscuit. He was writing like he was trying to cram too much rubbish into a bin bag, like trying to get huge bags of rubbish quashed into a rubbish bin. Instead of him to read more, do the research, he wouldnt and didnt, so opened himself to displaying such ignorance and embarrassing himself by just talking and typing off the top of his head

I thought openmine was only a prude, didnt realise it gets better, he lives a sheltered bubble life. His above #1 post, I am to response to just proves it

Do you know who Jimmy Carter is. You would know Archbishop Desmond Tutu sha though, if not former POTUS Jimmy Carter

You really think EmperorHarry doesnt

That must be your twin brother in the picture, since you have vast knowledge and understanding more than I do concerning what is perversion and know more than I do on the badness of two men having sex together, please tell, what exactly, as in, what specifically is bad in two consenting males, adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part relationship bad and why particularly, you see their sexual behaviour considered evil, abnormal and unacceptable?

Ditto here too

The fundamental issue here is that there’s a competition of strong and aggressive masculine pride going on

You are sick MuttleyLaff, very sick.

MuttleyLaff:
I am beginning to, in a small way that has increasing potential, warm towards you Shepherd00. Do you know why? You are now starting to think outside the box and broadly too.

I like your version of events. Good guessing but the conjecture is off the chart and that is why you quickly agreed with saying No, at the end of it. Well done.

You are right though that homosexuality is wicked, but what type or sort of wicked homosexuality was Lot referring to. Also you've just joined in today and so wouldn't know about the question I ask OkCornel and openmine earlier. Let me personally ask you, the others have flatly been evasive.

Shepherd00, what was the reason Lot gave, aside wickedness, for refusing the men the desire to gang rape the "men", we know they are angel?. Thank you. I know I can count on you for a good, correct and meaningful answer.

MuttleyLaff, I didn't think outside of any box, it's there in the Bible. Lot said homosexuality is a very wicked act hence, he refused them his visitors.

But, Why have you refused to tell why Lot wld prefer to give his female virgins to the men instead of males?

OkCornel:
Thank you very much. This was the same response I gave him earlier today...



https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/27#79658955

But Muttley lied I have been evasive...

MuttleyLaff is totally lost.

MuttleyLaff:
Are you thick or what? Where in Deuteronomy 14:22-29 or Acts 15, do you see God approving or disapproving tithing, hmm?

Oh oh, its not a matter of how God specified it, is it now? You see what I mean by, dont try that line of questioning type with me now? It wouldnt wash with you, same way, it isnt going to with me too. Now bringing it up, like I've advised you not to. I have moved on from it. This is my last call.

Oya, try these three direct, simple and easy for size questions about the scriptures then to see if or not If God truly sees anything untoward a same sex relationship or men sexing men. Dont ignore them, no excuses and dont do an AWOL

1/ What was the reason given by Lot, for refusing and/or not allowing those wicked and cruel men of Sodom and Gomorrah have gay sex with the angels when they attempted gang raping the angels who had an appearance of human beings, as in, men?
2/ Did Lot say: "Oh no, please you cant dont that. No, men sexing men? Haba guys, God doesnt want men sexing men nau, abeggy dont do that. Shoo! shoo!!. Go away please, ẹ dakun, ẹ jọr. Ẹma ko ba mi. Please I beg you, dont get me into trouble", hmm?
3/ You would expect Lot to say to the guys that God doesnt approve of men sexing men, so they shouldnt consider doing it with these angels, wouldnt you openmine, hmm?

But what did Lot say to the homosexuals?

Did he say 'Guys, guys, I know that this thing is okay if you ask my visitors nicely, but dis one wey na by force una want take do am, E no wise nah?

was that what Lot said? No.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so ~~~wickedly~~~.

So, the Act of homosexuality is wickedness.