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openmine:
Happy new month bro! Good morning!

Pls stop responding to the pervert.

plaetton:
Who are they ?

Rosicrucisnism is not a religion, therefore no burden is placed on anyone to believe or not to believe God , gods or their associates myths.
It is a school, a school of philosophy where diverse issues of philosophy, science, religion, history are freely explored. And like all schools, you do whatever you like with your knowledge.
There is no particular belief system being propagated.

I don't believe in the existence of God. I did before.
It's about asking questions, the deep inner questions that we have , and following where they lead.

I kept asking questions, more and more questions , until it let me to more and more answers, and finally to answer that the universe did not ever need a God.

Are you are Rosicrucian?

jesusjnr:
JESUS INSTRUCTED HIS CHURCH TO TEACH ALL NATIONS TO KEEP HIS WORDS NOT THE BIBLE!

Give 10 differences between the Bible and the Word of God.

solite3:
What are you saying Jesus himself emphasized the bible

Mark 12:24
And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

Jesus himself taught and expounded the bible to his disciples
Mark 14:49
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.

Luke 24:27
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Luke 24:45
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Jesus overcame his tempter with the bible


Mark 14:49
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.

Luke 24:27
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Luke 24:45
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,


Matthew 4:7
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Matthew 4:10
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Jesus life and ministry was a fulfillment of the scriptures.

It is written in the scriptures

2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

The scriptures was by God himself
Not only did he inspired it, he directed the events and also guided its recording and preserved it.


2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Note he said all scriptures both old and new testament

Pls don't waste your time on this heretic.

As if the Bible is not the Word of God.

plaetton:
Exactly.

He would blindly follow stone age myths and superstitions and the fraudsters that promote them rather than to embark on a journey of self discovery to see, learn and analyze existential matters with his own brain.

I don't know why the idea of self-discovery and self analysis scare these people so much.

So, you are a Rosicrucian?
Do you know they believe in God?

OfficialAPCNGR:
She's very correct. The real victim when this ends will be Timi Dakolo!!!

I thought so too.

openmine:
Its great to be back to this thread,though not for long as there are other interesting and captivating threads on nairaland(lets also not forget the real world) and besides,I am of the belief that the superb points and unequivocal scriptures as provided so far by TV01,Okcornel,shepherd,myself and others are more than copious to refute and repudiate the haphazard and tremulous presumption concocted by the OP!
Nevertheless,these are my annotations and,maybe,my last submissions here!

First, whoever got me banned, whether the OP or his unscrupulous allies or the inequitable mods that were
solicitous to the OP,is of least prominence to me and the last thing I need right now is to elongate this thread with accusations and counter-accusations!
So am giving it a rest because time is of the essence!
Though I find it nauseating,waggish and injudicious that the OP would comically attribute my interdiction to God’s intervention!



Am quite grateful to my adversaries who kept taunting and scorning my ban from this thread which undeniably displays the perspicacity of these folks! cipher!
OP esp was so engrossed about my absence that he had to follow a conversation between me and @shepherd00 down to a sports thread.
Guy no fears....reduce your obsession of me


So far, I have analyzed from the commencement of this thread to the present as regards the objectives of the thread and that of the OP and my cessation is that this discourse,the scriptures provided and other valuable opinions by unperturbed and unruffled individuals on this thread have indeed strengthened my stance against homosexual acts whether its consensual or not!

Once again the scriptures have triumphed over the controversial postulations which endeavoured,fruitlessly,to impose or dispute explicit scriptures on the bible’s stance against homosexuality!
The OP emphatically claimed in his own words that God saw nothing untoward about consensual homosexual acts….Unfortunately and dolorously,he was unable to make any near semblance to such scriptures supporting his viewpoint and that’s because such scriptures doesn’t EXIST!
The bible is coherent and perspicuous about the consensual union/sexual intercourse between a man and a woman which was expressly endorsed by God almighty!


The op would deviously say ‘what is wrong with two adults engaging in a consensual homosexual act’?....The aim of such statements is to provoke empathy from the supposed open-minded!
Everything is fallacious about such deeds no matter what analogy or sugar coating used!
A pig will still submerge itself into a mud no matter how well they are treated or clothed!
Its fool-hardy to do a wrong thing in the right way....!
So no matter the tag ‘consensual’ used to tie around homosexual acts, such acts are unorthodox,abhorrent and mortifying!
God,in his wisdom, created and endorsed a union between man and woman to procreate and multiply which WAS and STILL is his plan for mankind and no scripture inclination has mentioned anything contrary or indirectly created a union other than the one endorsed by God!

Never was there a necessity or future proclamation of same sex union as erroneously suggested by the OP!
This is made glaring with scriptures calling acts of same sex union as UNNATURAL…in other words,not based on the plans and features of a natural union which is between a man and woman!



Lastly, to those who have stood firm in the face of insults, provocation and manipulation from Op and invited partners in crime,i think we have all made our salient points known and at the end,the word of God has finally prevailed against any alteration outside the word of God!
What has been said is more than satisfactory for the wise to comprehend!
Hence I would humbly suggest that we avoid extending this thread by falling for the OP's obvious but incessant prevaricating and digressing ploys!
We are not here to force anyone to reject or accept our submissions….however, Let others peruse the back and forth of this thread and let them decide for themselves!

Happy new month everyone!

Thank you sir for this. With this, I also take a bow from this thread.

Let him that have eyes see , let him that have ears hear what the Spirit says to the world.

Happy New Month Openmine.

alBHAGDADI:
Stop being foolish. You are just littering my thread with stupidity. Who told you the type of hatred preached on this thread is the type encourages killing? Did Jesus kill the Pharisees? No.

Guess what? Jesus beat those traders at the temple. If you were alive that day, you would have called him a thug and a hater. Your foolish self won't see that what he did was hatred for evildoers messing his father's house.

Shame on you

See? You are a thug indeed and a liar too.

Post where it says Jesus beat the Money changers and watch me disgrace you.

MuttleyLaff:
I don't know. You tell me. I've noticed that two of your posts on the thread alBHAGDADI opened and that was about hating, has gone missing, as in, two of your posts on that thread are no longer visible, not anymore in fact.

Have you forgotten that you confided in me about you snitching on him to the mods before, erhn?

I have not noticed. let me check

alBHAGDADI:
Muttleylaff, shepherd00 and others.

Stay away from derailing my thread or else I will report you to the mods and you will banned.

How did I derail your thread?

Did I discuss any opposing view from your Op?

OkCornel:
This is just too laughable. And yet, not one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures to show God's endorsement of such disgusting act.


Ehen, Biko the link to the video where Arsenokytes and Malakos is explained. I need to check it out.

I won't be surprised if the person behind the video is a hardened gay apologist that suddenly knows Greek more than the Greek people...

A video? Shouldn't he be talking about Greek Concordance?

MuttleyLaff:
So it's you reporting Shepherd00 to the moderators that has got his two posts hidden from view, obviously because of the hate contents in them, and in addition to being banned from posting on the Religion forum section. So na you be the snitch, hmm?

alBHAGDADI you and Shepherd00 should curb this your tit for tat reporting each other to the moderators.

Please alBHAGDADI, don't sound childish, calling a thread your thread and don't you ever in your life, come on to this thread to come and be throwing your over bloated weight and over sized ego around here. Mtcheeew.

alBHAGDADI, "coma bitme at miaos nau" when I do sooner or later comment again on that poxy thread. Do you think moderators are not more level headed and objective than you are ni alBHAGDADI, hmm? Nonsense and ingredients.

I have never reported alBHAGDADI. what is going on here? Av been so busy all day.

Esales:
What if, just what if this man is discharged in a court of law, where will all these ppl hide their faces ?

My thought too.

OkCornel:
Perhaps he might consent to the act, if he hasn't already.

That's my understanding.

Pls read it again. [b]but I definitely and possibly ~~must have done it~~, out of some desperate, great need or desire for something reason.


Is he not sure of doing it, to say [b]He must have done it?

First off, how does definitely and possibly lie side by side?
A Possibility is something under consideration. But, being definite is something concrete and sure

So, if he is definite about something he did, it cannot be something that he possibly must have done.

MuttleyLaff, did you dream doing Homosex?

And why did you do it since it was not for sexual attraction?

And what was the desperate great need you had that made you desire it?
Remember you said attraction was not part of it.

Your yansh don dey open small small o.

alBHAGDADI:
According to you, Jesus was a thug for using harsh words against the pharisees.

Matthew 23:33 (KJV)
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

If you equate yourself and how you react to peole here to Jesus, then the Pharisees wld've had a raw deal of beatings from the Lord's Angels.

Do you know more than a legion of Angels were already with Him? But, yet he only disputed with them. never used a personal insult on anyone directly.

If Jesus was like you, ah, no one for get salvation o. Na beat beat him for beat and kill people.

alBHAGDADI:
Blind bat

Psalm 11:5
5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Why didn't He destroy Nineveh then?

Why is the world still standing with all the evil going on.

Why are the Muslims still increasing with all the violence they perpetrate everyday?

Why are you still alive?

alBHAGDADI:
According to you, Jesus was a thug for using harsh words against the pharisees.

Matthew 23:33 (KJV)
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

If your rage and hate will allow your vision to be clear you'd see that the Lord's issue was with the Acts of the Pharisees not them themselves.

How many of them for saved afterwards? many. How many priests? Many.

Jesus DOES NOT HATE PEOPLE, IF HE DOES, HE shouldn't die for them. He is still saving souls today. The worsts of criminals, homosexuals, ritual killers, muslims, atheists, prostitutes, are still being saved today.

For God so loved the World...

For while we were yet Sinners, Christ died for us...

Romans 5:7-8 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
It wasn't for his friends he died for. He died for his enemies. For we were enemies of God by nature

Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Colossians 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated ~~~and enemies in your mind by wicked works~~~, yet now hath he reconciled

alBHAGDADI, these people you hate and kill in your intentions are Romans 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

And we were all like them once in the past. You are like Jonah who haven received salvation, wished that God shd kill others whom he felt were too sinful.
What did God say to him?
C.E.V.Jonah 4:10-11 But the LORD said: You are concerned about a vine that you did not plant or take care of, a vine that grew up in one night and died the next. In that city of Nineveh there are more than 120,000 people who cannot tell right from wrong, and many cattle are also there. Don't you think I should be concerned about that big city?

Nineveh was the Capital of Assyria. A Nation that was so evil. They weren't Jews, God's people, but He didn't them. He'd rather they repent than be destroyed.

Where you get this your gospel from sef?

alBHAGDADI:
I believe many people rushed into this thread with a huge hate for the topic because they believe Christians should never hate anybody. They believe Christians are to love everybody. That is what Hollywood and the politically correct media is teaching to get people brainwashed. However, that is not what the Bible teaches.

We are going to look at tonnes of verses and also the meaning of the word hate so as to make a balanced judgment. Ignore whatever night distract you from reading this post, cos you will become fully knowledgeable about the things of God.

Below is a list from the Thesaurus of synonyms of the word hate.



Many who are already angry at this thread and are against it don't know that they have exhibited hatred. Yet they say we should never hate anything or anybody. Look, there is hate in Christianity; the religion teaches hate for things and people, but in a certain way.

Many of those who say Christians should never hate anybody don't know how hypocritical they are. The same people will tell their kids to shun certain kids and people because they are bad company. They forget that to shun is also to hate as seen in the Thesaurus above.

What these people who have been misled will say is that God is love and so we his children ought to love everybody. Look, God is love but he also hates certain people. Read the verse below to see the kind of people God hates.

Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

As seen clearly, God hates a proud person, a liar, people who shed innocent blood, a person with a wicked heart and a false witness. These are evil people and in verse 16 the Bible says they are an abomination to God. Remember how abominate is also a synonym of the word hate.

But today, people say we Christians are never to hate anybody but love everybody in the world. It is stupid because that would make us bastards. But as children of God, we are to hate what our father hates and love what he loves.

Let me ask you, do you love the wicked, the people who shed blood, the false witness etc? If you do, then you are a bastard and not a child of God. You don't have the fear of the Lord that's why you don't hate evil men whom the Lord hates.

Proverbs 8:13 (KJV)
13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

It is quite ridiculous, because these people who teach that we should love everybody, if you ask them if they love the guys below, they will say no. Yet they teach love everybody.

Adolph Hitler
Osama Bin Laden
Shekau
Murderous Herdsmen etc

Look, God hates all workers of iniquity, but here you are allowing social media and the politically correct liars to deceive you into loving that which your father hates.

Proverbs 5:5-6
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

God hates the evil doers, but you want to love them and sit with the wicked because you have been brainwashed that Christianity is all love.

Psalm 26:5
5 I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.

Psalm 11:5
5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Now, there are some verses these people will try to use to say we ought to love everybody. They turn those verses on their head to say what they are not really saying.

The first is:

Mathew 5:43-45
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

They pick verse 44 and say Jesus said we should love our enemies. Yes that's very correct because it came from our Lord Jesus Christ. He's telling us not to hate our personal enemies. An example is someone who does us wrong at work or stole the credit for something we did at work. We are not to hate that person for that but do good to them.

Now here's the thing with these people: When I say I hate a child molester/pedophile, they will say "you are not supposed to hate anybody because Jesus said to love your enemies". How is a pedophile my enemy that I'm supposed to love him? Has he done me any wrong? Did he molest me as a child or molest my child? No. I only hate him because he's evil. He's destroying the lives of children, and you expect me to love him? You can't love children and say you also love pedophiles who hurt children.

A pedophile is an evil person whom God hates and therefore you should hate as well. If you love that pedophile, guess what will happen? You will relax and lose guard such that he will come close to you to the point of molesting your child. You are to stay away from him. He has to be shunned, which is a synonym of hate.

Now, can you say you are obeying the command of love your enemies when you tell your kids to stay away from a known child molester? No you are not. You are not also being disobedient to it because Jesus is not teaching in that passage that you should love evil people like pedophiles. He's only saying you should love your personal enemies by doing good to them just as Good loves his personal enemies by giving them rain and sunshine. Does that now mean God loves murderers, wicked people, evil doers etc? No, cos I just showed you verses that shows him hating them.

Another objection this people will put up is that they will say hatred is a work of the flesh. Then they'll say Christians are not supposed to hate because they should always walk in the spirit not the flesh. They quote the below verse.

Galatians 5:19-20
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Look, not all hatred is wrong and not all hatred is right. If I hate my enemies, then I'm wrong. But if I hate evil and evil doers, then I'm right. Even Jesus commended a whole church in Ephesus for having hatred.

Revelation 2:6
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate

Jesus also expressed anger at the Church in Pergamos for not having hatred for the doctrine which he hates

Revelations 2:14-15
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.

So, clearly not all hatred is right and not all hatred is wrong.

Some set of people will say they prefer to play safe by loving everybody. They don't know that doing such is like calling on the wrath of God to fall on them.

2 Chronicles 19:2
2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the Lord? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the Lord.

As seen above, Jehoshaphat tried to play cool by loving everybody, even the ungodly. Guess what? That made the wrath of God to be upon him. The evil people that are brainwashing you to love everybody are actually working towards the wrath of God falling on you. That is their aim, but you can't see it because you are now politically correct. They also want you to be in enemity with God

James 4:4
4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


To see that we are not to love everybody, kindly read fhe below passage which gives some of the requirements to making heaven.

Psalm 15 (KJV)
15 Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the Lord. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.


As seen above, to make heaven, you have to be righteous and you have to love your neighbor and have contemn for a vile person. Contemn is another synonym for the word hate as seen in the Thesaurus above.

But people have mistaken love your neighbor to mean we have to love EVERYBODY. If the Bible says we are to have hate for a vile person, right in the same passage that speaks of love for neighbor, shouldn't that tell you that it simply means we are not to love everybody? So clearly, love your neighbor doesn't mean love everybody. Or else, why are told to hate a vile person? Having hate for a vile person means we are not to love everybody.

May God help us to be able to love what he loves and hate what he hates.

Amen.

Cc lalasticlala

God does not hate people, God hates the evil in them which makes them take those evil actions.

Read all the scriptures you used, you'd see that IT IS THE ACTIONS, DEEDS, NOT THE PEOPLE HE HATES.
Stop misrepresenting God.

alBHAGDADI:
What a sorry fellow you are. Here you are trying to sound all nice, but your words gave you away. You called me a thug without any evidence to show I exhibit thuggery. It only shows the hate in you which slipped out of your mouth despite you trying to conceal it in your heart.

You couldn't dispute the thread, so you took the chicken route by calling me a thug.

I called you a thug because of the tune of your words. You are quarrelling and fighting with words.

You are very hash and abrasive. You respond and react to those who disagree with you with venom. You are combative and hostile. It shows if you were facing them you could hit them with your fist. You must also agree with Christians fighting, yeah?

It shows if the police won't get you, you will kill them, since you are convince God is okay if you hate them.

Hating people is murdering them alBHAGDADI.

In a broader earthly meaning, hatred includes hostility, murder,
and revenge, which involve longing for someone’s death. Murder lies hid

MuttleyLaff:
"This just reminds me, doing security guard work, back in the days, when this unfit looking and chubby geezer, one bright sunny afternoon, walked up to the secluded portacabin, where I was stationed at, in this business industrial units estate, poked his head in, and said something to the effect that, would I be interested and consent to us doing it together and that I'll handsomely be paid for the bother. I told him, in no uncertain terms, its not my kind of thing and so therefore where to sling it

First, only and last, I had a homosexual hit at me. Touch wood"
- Re: Muttleylatff: What Does Homosexuality Serve In The Universe? by MuttleyLaff: 8:50pm On Jun 02

Shepherd00, you can believe whatever lies about me and images of me, you concoct up in your head, but as far as I am concerned, I havent ever and never ever said, I slept with men , neither have I anywhere say, I am homosexual or attracted to men sexually. You obviously for reason best know by you, chose to ignore the earlier part of what you've truncatedly quoted, where I typed that:
"... I am not into SSA nor am I bisexual. It is not in my nature, to fancy men, talkless want to sex men ..."

MuttleyLaff, you said this, I didn't. I only asked you what you meant. Why not explain what you meant there than go on a ramble trip?
What do you mean by but I definitely and possibly must have done it, out of some desperate, great need or desire for something reason.
Abeg OKcornel. Maybe my eyes dey pain me. Come help me check. Weytin you understand by weytin Muttley write for hia.

Openmine, wia you dey?

alBHAGDADI:
This one says Christians are not to hate, yet he has shown how much he hates me by accusing me of what I'm not.

Oh alBHAGDADI, I don't hate you. Why will I hate? That seed is not in me. If the Spirit of hatred is in me, then i'd ve evil in me. Then I won't have the Holy Spirit in me. Light and darkness cannot cohabit.

If the agents of hate (satan), hates me and I hate them back, then we are not different from each other.

Telling you what you are is stating the obvious, not that I hate you. Why I go hate you?

Jesus says, Love, don't hate. I follow the teachings of Jesus so I love you, that's why I'll always tell you the truth that make you free.

By all means satan wants to plant hate in the hearts of Christians against the muslims, I almost hated them once, then I discovered that they are victims in his hands. He wants soldiers and he has them, but when we are all done here, we shall stand before Jesus and be judged. And the state of our hearts shall be exposed to know why we did what?

You see, satan is already judged and sentenced, but the muslims and people like you who misinterpre scriptures will be shocked to discover you were used.

alBHAGDADI, Love your enemy if you are a follower of Jesus. it doesn't say, eat with them or keep their company. But. don't be malicious towards them.

Pray for the criminal muslims to repent.

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s3/images/sodomy.jpg[/img]

"The terms "qadesh" or a sodomite are the original and true biblical words for describing a temple devotee SSA male prostitute. An example of the female equivalent "qedeshah" (i.e. female temple prostitute) can be found in Genesis 38:21. The word sodomite, means "qadesh" as in a shrine male prostitute and must importantly be noted that it has no and never had any correlation with the city Sodom nor Sodom and Gomorrah "
- Page 30 Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 11:44pm On Jun 25

Why should I look up a dictionary for a word that the real meaning in the Bible we know what it originally means, huh? When did the dictionary start to take precedence over the word of God, the Bible. The bible original meaning of a sodomite/sodomy in Deuteronomy 23:17-18, stands anytime any day than any poxy biased dictionary meaning, trying to call a spade a fork

OkCornel, check this thread, as earlier as page 4 (i.e. the "PART 2 CONTINUED FROM ABOVE. I HAD TO SPLIT INTO 3 PARTS, AS WAS TOLD POST IS TOO LONG'') and then also pages 14, 25, 30, 35 for various times, when and where I have written and explained that the Hebrew word "qadesh" is what the word, sodomite really is and originally means. "Qadesh" is a relatively rare word, that is used only six times in the entire book of the Bible. When used, God insisted that the Israellites must not never be a qadesh (i.e. sodomite) nor participate in sexual worship of false gods because that is the kind of false worship the qadesh (i.e. sodomite) performed.

I have several times on the pages of this thread, explained what and who the real sodomites are or what sodomy is, but you, OkCornel & Company, are so bent on still believing what you all erroneously have learnt the sodomite/sodomy word to be

Look at TV01 too, from the above screenshot taken from page 13, whom I chided and corrected when he made the same the mistake as you, flagrantly use the word sodomy for people living and enjoying astrictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle

Shepherd00, too dug his feet in when, I asked him: "Does he know who originally from the real meaning, before it got changed to homosexual, is a sodomite, as in, what is sodomy?"

OkCornel, that Roman 1:25-27 you are interested to discuss with me, if you read Roman Chapter 1 in context, you'll find that it is idolatry, promiscuity, sleeping around, sharing partners, hopping from one bed to another, casual sexual acts and shrine prostitution (i.e. qadesh/sodomite/sodomy/male prostituting) that it was Paul was addressing in Romans 1 , and hasnt got anything to do with SSA people living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle with loyal, kind, caring, loving, faithful and committed partners.

I am not a teacher nor metatron the first, as kkins25 would jokingly call me, but an awakener. The ideas that have lighted my way, so far in life, have been kindness, beauty and truth, but I've since learn each day that people hate the truth

You keep talking about the term being changed, does changing the term changes the Act of men having sex with other men?

MuttleyLaff:
"Look at Romans Chapter 1 now, read it contextually.

If you do, then you'll know that Romans 1:26-28, is Apostle Paul talking of straight males who were sexing other men in their cults which is unnatural to them because they arent sexually attracted to men, but just doing it for pagan religious reasons or forced into doing merely for financial gains

Romans 1:25-27, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are caught up in deeper meanings that when properly and correctly studied gives one abetter and right understanding of the passages"
- by MuttleyLaff: 4:42am On Jun 27 2019

Thank you, L.ekan1o1 you see, that is exactly what Apostle Paul, in Romans 1:26, similarly about the women was talking about.

Fyi, Romans 1:26, is where it happens, we have the one and only ever reference to lesbianism, in the entire book of the Bible that is recorded. In that same Romans 1:26 verse, Paul was saying, some women have abandoned, as in, cast aside, have put aside their natural behavior, changed the way they naturally will do, as in, changed behaving from their own nature, because of the prospect of financial gains, and so subject themselves to swapping to what is not natural to them but is unnatural. They, for like in your example Lekan1o1, have taken to anal, not because naturally they enjoy it, it isnt in their nature to, but they've changed because of financial inducement, money, aside the pagan religious pagan shrine sexual orgies ritual practice. I actually mean sex performed based on idolatry, expecting favours and blessings from the gods/goddess
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 5:35am On Jun 28

OkCornel, in spite of all Shepherd00 and others might have tried to tag as, for being in support of the right for SSA people to live and enjoy a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle without hate, fear or favour, I am not into SSA nor am I bisexual. It is not in my nature, to fancy men, talkless want to sex men, so if for some very strange and/or unusual reason, I find myself sexing men. It obviously is against my nature, becausely naturally and truly I never fancy men, at least never romantically or sexually, but I definitely and possibly must have done it, out of some desperate, great need or desire for something reason.

OkCornel, you can see, you have got hold of the wrong end of the stick, with those your above three invalid questions, hmm?. Those questions are like you asking a single and unmarried man, if he is still beating his wife, when he's never ever married and so hasnt and never a wife to beat

MuttleyLaff, by saying, but I definitely and possibly must have done it, out of some desperate, great need or desire for something reason, you meant you have slept with men but not because you were homosexual or were attracted to them sexually?

You used the words "definitely and possibly", does this say you slept with men for economic reasons if not for romance?

Albagadi is a thug.

MuttleyLaff:
You cant see the forest for the trees of what OP wrote. Everything in OP makes sense abeggy. OP na "ọmọ ologo ọmọluwabi" on this one, so "ji masun, ni idi isẹ" Shepherd00, and that loosely translated, means "wake up, dont sleep on the job" Shepherd00

After Monday and Tuesday the calendar says WTF, and I too in the spirit of wtf, was wondering what wtf is ipooser, then it dawned on me, you meant to type "opposer of God's word" and not "ipooser of God's word".

Beats me, and its because there are too many biblically illiterates about, who have truth decay, because they hardly brush up their Bible.

Atheists, sometimes do get it right, just not on this one and this particular atheist definitely hasnt

He is no bastard, and that's because he has a father, whom we know. He however is, black sheep turned and become Goatherd00

If Albagadi is right about Christ asking Christians to hate sinners, why aren't you okay with people who Persecute Homosexuals?

MuttleyLaff:
"Yes, I hate the thief, I hate him for being a thieving bastard. I vividly remember in 1995, waking up and walking down the street to where I parked my beautiful waxed black colored VW Golf Gti Mark II, couldn't find it in slot I parked. I walked both ends of the street, only for to dawn on me that my beloved car has been stolen. I remember how I hated the person that violated me by stealing this loved car. I remember also prior to this, on two separate occasions, when the windows of same car, was smashed, just for some thieving bastard to take out my removable car hi-fi, go to my boot, rummaged through to take away the high performance speakers in there.

I straightaway answered your question about hating a thief or not, but you couldn't answer the two questions put to you, you just as usual turn evasive"
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:40pm On Jun 26

Yes, I dont think he is right, I know he is right. He thought that one out right, like I'll do, did and already done as you can see from the above inverted commas quote

"OkCornel, are all your fingers equal? No, of course they arent.

Now watch this. Do you really think God isnt aware there'll be divisions in ekklesia? Do you think God didnt know alBHAGDADI wouldnt be in support of strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle and I would? That alBHAGDADI would champion mandated ecclesiastical or obligatory tithing and I kick against it?
OkCornel, listen, we dont mind all that because what unites the fingers is greater than what is division among them

What unites alBHAGDADI and I together is far greater than that which divides us. We have different graces and different level of grace. We have the same Holy Spirit, but fit into same amount and equal Holy Spirit, size wise, differently

Lastly, alBHAGDADI thinks in the same or a similar way like I do. alBHAGDADI goes about things in the same or a similar way like I do. alBHAGDADI says and writes certain things in the same or a similar way like I do. alBHAGDADI and I think alike that, Jesus Christ is God, He is our Lord and Saviour. Hallelujah. Amen to that. Praise to God in the highest."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 5:31pm On Jun 26

What he typed is Bible, period.

@bolded. I know right?

OkCornel:
After all this long story you typed, the summary of what you've said is that you agree with alBHAGDAD.I that Christians are allowed to hate a certain group of people.

This is you endorsing what the OP said in that thread. You are encouraging Christians to hate people, all in a bid just to get back at Shepherd00. Too petty and shameless.



https://www.nairaland.com/5268515/why-christians-should-not-fall/1#79767946


Don't come here shouting homophobia, because you implicitly endorsed it in that thread just to score cheap points...

Don't mind MuttleyLaff. He is out to support everything the Bible stands against.

alBHAGDADI:
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Whatever Albagadi, whatever. Your conviction is yours, not mine.

alBHAGDADI:
Don't mind them.

Below is King David speaking. If he was alive on Earth today, many will label him as a hateful man going about selling hate speech. Yet, his words are doctrine.

Psalm 139:21-22 (KJV)
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

These words are doctrine to you? I'm not sure you are a Christian. Maybe a Judaists.