budaatum: Do you have evidence for this Shepherd or are you just making stuff up?
Making stuff up? You forgot that you and I were logged in thread which ran into several pages? And,even in this very thread you have said a lot which clearly says you are not a Christian, which means 'A follower of Christ', for every follower of Christ worships Him.
MuttleyLaff: What's to tell, hmm, my good customer, my customer mi daada ni, erhn?
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" - John 1:12
"14For those who are led by The Spirit of God, these are the sons of God. 16And that Spirit testifies to our spirit that we are sons of God;" - Romans 8:14 & 16
Na for my mouth, you wan hear, make I tell una, say na fish dey inside sardine abi Shepherd00?
No be for your mouth I go hear say you be "MoG?".
Why can't you say it? What's the big deal in saying 'I am a man of God?' if you truly are?
Oh, you do not want to be referred to as a homosexual man of god
MuttleyLaff: This nah joblessness of d highest order. That is why you are poke nosing into a post not concerning you but meant for pressplay411 to answer. SMH
MuttleyLaff, this is not a homosexual thread, go to your filthy thread and campaign for homosexuality.
He is not aware that you have an agenda of trying to turn this thread into a shitty homosexual thread that is why he is indulging you.
Pressplay, pls stop before Everything about this thread will be about homosexuality.
47 pages you couldn't prove to the world that homosexuality is Scriptural, when you were caught you claimed we were not ready to hear or see it. You have shamelessly brought your filthymind with you here.
budaatum: By the way, I do not pray. God knows what I require and gives it me when I require it by showing me how to go get it. As I am made to understand, if I do not sow, I shall not reap manna from heaven, and prayer is not, work! Below is how it is written in the bauv.
Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground, and only then will you be blessed by God.
You may check the validity of the above by considering if nations that are fruitful and fill and subdue the earth are not the ones that God has blessed.
So, you do not believe in Jesus. You don't Worship Jesus, you don't pray, what then do you do Buda?
budaatum: And obviously, not just of love, but of the entire scripture it would seem, and rather than trying to understand what one might mean, you jump in with no understanding whatsoever!
Do tell, a person goes to church on Sunday, sings aleluya Jesus amen, pays full tithes and appears pious, but then lacks love for their neighbours, has that person not been worshipping idols?
A person believes the word of God but does not do God's will, has that person not been worshipping idols?
Is it not true that Scripture is just words in a book to those who breathes not life, love, doing, into those words?
How does the picture you have painted here depicts a saint who believes in the person and teachings of Jesus?
MuttleyLaff: 1/ Please articulate to the best of your understanding, what is evil, wrong and bad in two adult having a romantic strictly monogamous same same sex attraction relationship, that is caring, loyal, kind, love until death do apart and is not harmful to anyone or anything, not a person, not a child and not an animal, hmm pressplay411?
2/ What immorality are such two living and enjoying a strictly monogamous same sex attraction relationship lifestyle, no cheating, no sleeping around, no etcetera hmm?
"This is 2000 years later, when we are exploring the Quarternity, but I would suppose one has to step out of the confines of Christianity and the Bible to get to that point, which may be difficult for some Christians despite Christ warning that one must not live by bread alone. Unfortunately, if some don't read it in their Bible it's not from God."
Elated177's response:
Now this is your whole mission; to lure the saints and the unstable from the foundation of their faith.
This tactics reminds me of a certain Indian movie I watched donkey years ago.
Once a saint of YHVH Almighty steps away from the confines of the Scriptures in search of knowledge or understanding, such one has fallen into the trap of Satan.
You, budaatum, are with all subtlety luring the unstable to occultism and new age ideas. You are not as subtle as you think, though. Any saint of Yahushua the Messiah can see through you. You are just using the knowledge of the Scriptures, albeit just the Letters, to mask your true intentions.
May YHVH Almighty continue to deliver his saints from your kind on this forum and beyond.
pressplay411: Ok. Perhaps you should consider the understanding of the Trinity of God. That helped and still helps me a lot. This message below along with other teachings helped my understanding.
MuttleyLaff: Trust I havent a monkey to get off my back and I have never in my life to date, own or have a monkey
I dont know what you are. I have never pictured you in my mind talkless think you are a sheep.
I do know I am a moG and also remember Jesus saying, "A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his relatives and his own family" When you resort to shooting at the messenger and not the message, there certainly is a monkey on someone's back somewhere
If you are not shy state in plain terms who you are. Stop hiding under moG
pressplay411: I do understand your position. Because truly ,understanding before believing is critical as it gives us conviction. But as Muttley has rightly said, that's what Faith is. We are Christians today nor because we understood nor even understand fully what the goal of Christianity is because it's an everlasting journey. But we believed first, and we're now seeing that goal which is the Kingdom of God and the Excellence of His Glory all embodied in the knowledge of Christ Jesus.
On that premise, you see that contrary to the way the world works, we do not see (understand) before we believe. We See because we now Believe. That is how the Just live by Faith.
However seeking to understand is important but it is preceded by Believing. Understanding comes by the Holy Spirit, once we believe in God through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour- the Wisdom of God.
budaatum: I am not Thomas, muttley. I am buda, the buda that believes not but makes use of the brain and mind that the Lord God gave buda so buda can seek understanding, which I do not need permission from you to do.
If you missed buda's attitude to "believing", start here.
You are the type the Lord refers to 'Those who enter the sheepfold through the window'. What is commanded is clearly stated, but you chose to do the opposite. No problem. We shall surely understand by and by.
budaatum: A trick I'm delighted to miss since it means I'd rather learn and understand Christ than bow down and worship or honour and revere Christ. It's the difference between seeing through dark glass and knowing.
There is a reason why it is written that the Gospel is preached to the poor. As you well know, the Holy Spirit gives each individual the ability to understand as much as they put in the effort to understand. Besides, to the best of my knowledge, Christ never asked anyone to "bow down and worship or honour and revere" Christ.
Why didn't he stopped the numerous people who worshipped Him?
budaatum: No one submits to the Word of God 411. What everyone submits to, if they submit at all, is their own understanding of the Word of God which is usually twisted to justify their own actions.
It'll make sense If you say, 'I don't submit to the Word of God, instead of saying 'No one submits to the Word of God, because so many people do. Hardened criminals have submitted to the Word of God. I wonder how they can twist the Word to justify their actions. What will they be justifying, their repentance or criminal acts?
Notorious prostitutes have submitted to the Word of God and shun sex selling, how can they twist it to justify their actions?
Boko haram members both here in Nigeria and outside, have been convicted by the Word whether in print or in Essence. All manner of sinners have been saved by the Word, I was saved by the Word. How could I ve twisted the Word to justify me stopping to lie, cheat, fornicate and hate people?
budaatum: It is as is written, "The Word of God was made for man, not man for the Word of God. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Word of God." baav
You pulled this out of your hat. Scripture pls?
budaatum: We twist our own understanding into it and claim God said essentially, just as Christ taught us to but using the key which is [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+13&version=NIV&interface=amp]love[/url].
In other words, God never said, "Thou shall not Lie?" As in, The Ten Commandments are not given by God the way they are, but were twisted by men to suit their understanding? What about the teaching of the Lord Jesus you claim to follow, He didn't teach them as you follow them?
Buda, you ve been twisting the Word of God so thinks everyone does.
budaatum: I wouldn't agree that Jesus Christ were God. God's Son, they say, but not Yahweh himself. I just can't see Yahweh submitting to crucifixion without turning everyone on earth to salt first or wiping it out with a flood or fire or something equally as devastating.
Oh well, you still have a long way to go when it comes to knowing who Jesus truly is. And, you haven't been really studying the Bible, which you have a problem with.
budaatum: Would you permit me to add the Holy Bible as a common idol of some please? Many do bow down and worship it even though they don't know they do.
I'd like to add Jesus Christ too but don't think that would go down well.
MuttleyLaff: Is the moniker Shepherd00 copyrighted, that it cant be mentioned. You seeking for attention somebody, claiming you were mentioned "upandan" when it was a one-off mention that appeared in a reproduced quote.
Reading to get understanding has never been your forte anyway, so I am not surprised. O saarọ kutukutu Monday, it's Monday morning and too early in the week for your tantrum outbursts. "Kuro lọna jọr"
If you think you make sense, then go.on but stop mentioning me in your comments. No be byforce say I go talk to you.
openmine: I’d never forget a young lady I counselled a few years ago. Her parents had asked she come to see me on the account of marriage; she didn’t want to marry the man they all loved and felt was good for their daughter. So I asked this 26-year-old pretty lady what the problem was and her first response was ‘the guy has nothing’. I was stunned, ‘this is contrary to what your parents told me, I responded, ‘they said to me this young man is very rich and successful, he has a thriving business in Nigeria and the UK, a house of his own at 32 and several cars’ Yes’ this young lady responded in near desperation, ‘all that I can get for myself, I don’t need a man to give me all those things, I have a brain and I have my dreams I can get all that by myself what I need from my man he can’t give me, he’s insecure and doesn’t listen, he talks about himself too much’ Till today I can’t get over her very uncommon response.
MuttleyLaff: ^^^^^ What is this one kwantinu saying erhn? "Wee yu kip kwayet there". You think I'll bastardise the moniker ID, just because as if you have the moniker Shepherd00 "copyrighted", hmm? I had to make a point with the inverted commas about dropping hot potatoes, if it happens, the moniker was in the quotes, so be it and my profound apologies. It couldnt be helped, otherwise "komabitmeup atmaus" because it gives you "sifia" pains
What is this one saying? Must you mention me in your claptraps?
Read what you typed again and see if you made any Sense.
MuttleyLaff: ... and you started your comeback with gossip and backbiting a moG, erhn?
"Most interlocutors, so far, commenting on this thread have never disappointed me. They have been very at playing the mediocrity card, which is ignoring the big elephants in the room, I introduced them to on the thread, but then ignored the elephants, pretended they are not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about and dancing pangolo even before the music begins and dance starts." - Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:09am On Jul 02
"Don't mind if I am blind or not, if Lot knew it was an abomination men sexing men, then please OkCornel, what was the reason he gave for denying and refusing the men of Sodom and Gomorrah have sex with these two other "men" hmmm? Dance around the question and the earlier other two for as long as you want. Notice how openmine, has left you, all by yourself, to deal with the question. He has dropped it like it's too hot for him. Scaredy cat. I thought you guys said you had time for me today. I told youse, I'll knock your heads together" - Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 2:08pm On Jun 25
"I have stuff, that if I should drop it on these guys, their legs will buckle and they fall flat on their arse from the sheer weight of it. I havent typed anything substantial yet and they already are each and everytime be screaming blue murder. The trio, TV01, Shepherd00 and openmine, just make me all the time, literally be laughing out loud, watching them go schtum or dropping facts I introduce, as if it's like I've asked them to hold on to a hot potato, even diving under the sofa, to hide from the big fat lie elephants in the room I introduce to them." - Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 4:24pm On Jun 24
"I tell you what, I'll tell you what I love and dont love. I admire this kind of spirit that scrutinizes and most especially when done under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Mediocrity for me partly, is ignoring the big fat lie elephant in the room, pretending its not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about, even before the music begins." - Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:52pm On Jun 23
I know and understand you Anas09, like a well read book, that is why I consciously sent you no invite to this thread. The above inverted commas says it all, but I am yet to know the name of this special school yall have attended that teaches to perfection this art of dropping the hot potato and playing the hot potato game
plaetton: Statistically, the vast majority of humans believe in God or other supernatural powers. But there is no requirement to be a subscriber to any belief system. Rather , one is urged to come and be ready to re-examine one's beliefs from a rational perspective, and if possible, be willing to discard them as one becomes more self-aware. And that self-discovery and self-awareness would be the ultimate homage an individual could pay to one's God, if one believes in such.
Homebaked: The Bible in its entirety is not the Word of God. It comprises of the Word ( Jesus), the word of men and, of course, the word of the devil. The current church system teaches her adherents to regard every sentence in the Bible as God's Word. That is not correct. The Word of God in the Bible in its purest form are the sayings of Jesus Christ. The Bible as we know it today came by a couple of centuries after the birth of the church and even then prior to the invention of the printing press, only few copies exist. I will have you know that it was the sayings of Jesus, transmitted orally, first by the apostles and their successors, that won multitudes to Christ In the first century.
Again, pls give 10 differences between the Bible and the Word of God. Stop the grammar
MiddleDimension: yes, they believe in God. infact that's one of the criteria if not the only criteria you need to be their member. oh, you also should be able to read and write because in there, if you are not ready to read, rosicrucianism will not be very interesting to you.
so yes, they believe in God or any higher power. you can call it god, energy, etc; but it has to be a higher power than yourself. this is why you see people from all walks of life, as well as from all religions and cultural background among them
Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of Your Idols by Shepherd00: 3:21pm On Jul 13, 2019
