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ideylaff:
Wale Tinubuz dad is Kafaru Tinubu. There is no way he can be Tinubuz dad.

He died in 2019 aged 95. Tinubu is 70 now How can he be his dad?

Late Deji was his first son and he was born 1964 and died 2018

Felabrity:
https://twitter.com/renoomokri/status/1566807361917960194?t=Hmj7N-p6k338zCnS5qXHAA&s=19[/quote]Look at Reno the gray-bearded goat talking from across the Atlantic Ocean….come home and spin your nonsense yarn…they will give you what you deserve. Schmutz!!

darling2222:
The fact is the we don't need Tinubu or whatever, period.

Really?
Is it for you to determine who we need and who we do not need?
You can only cast your one vote…that’s if you even have PVC sef!

Ezeama400:
Beautiful family..

But we need his primary and secondary school cert oga not a family throwback because all four major contenders have family throwback pictures as well...


Nobody is interested in this... Even if he doesn't want to provide his school cert he should show us throwback pictures of his school mates like Peter Obi did...

Did you not see the large crowds commanded by Sunday Igboho everywhere he went in the South West?
He will be like the Mandela of Yorubaland whenever he returns to these shores and he can attain to any Chieftaincy position he desires because he commands the Respect of the people for championing their Cause!
For your information, Igboho doesn’t even claim to have gone to any school oo….but his people love him die!
Did Buhari ever show his school cert…..but he commanded 12 million votes from his people each time he came out!
Keep shouting for ‘school cert’ until the day Jagaban will be sworn in as President of Nigeria…..in your very korokoro eyes!!

Validated:
Fake News. CAN will NEVER accept Muslim-Muslim ticket

Believe these lies, you will believe anything. CAN has not met since the inauguration of new leadership

Anyway, see Tinubu/Shettima Bishops (aka Tinubu's CAN)

OnyeAshuaUru:
Atiku is a loser.
We all know that.
He will lose Adamawa same way Tinubu will lose Lagos.
But Peter Obi is the next President of Nigeria.

Baldwretch:
There is no irreverence in my speech, dear friend. There is none. In fact, if there were, I would not say it. I asked forgiveness out of deep reverence, not out of ignorance. I know what I am saying and I stand by what I say.

God created everything to enjoy himself. We exist to please God but we don't always please God actively - or should I say directly. If someone accosts you and just tries to engage you in a conversation and says - look, shinealight, do you know what we would do forever and ever in Heaven? Then you ask, what? Then he goes on a long ramble about how everything in Heaven is all about God. He says forever and ever and ever, the angels, seraphs, the redeemed and others would sing praises and worship to the Almighty, day and night forever and forever. Would that look like he's irreverent? I don't think so. If he goes, we would be blaring flutes and wearing x, y, z robes while at it, would it be right? I don't think it would be right because we don't have details about how God wants us to worship him. The person would only be exaggerating, but would we call that a sin? I don't think so.

Now, depend on how you see things. I mean, is God actively in the affairs of human activities ? If yes, how? Does he carry out interventionist approach? Is he actively enjoying what he created? Why did he allow sin if he is Almighty and could prevent it no matter the human resolve involved? Would he punish some erring creatures for all eternity and does he actually delight as his creatures burn there forever?

Whether you believe the same or not, I personally believe God enjoys his creation and very much so. He can neither do wrong nor be accused of evils which his almighty hands permitted. He is neither under obligations to his creatures (even the finest and best of them, nor the worst of them). Everything, from the smallest to the greatest, isn't just for the divine glory but for the divine enjoyment as well. Now, sports, just like any other things is under divine purview and he actively delights to see the works of his hands cry, weep, moan, yes tears of blood over that round leather ball. It is not the sports per say but the actions of his creatures to these things, which makes them even more enjoyable to the divine, so the acts of sports itself is no sin.

You asked if he has reflected on the purpose of his life and then talked about enjoying the fullness of God's work in eternity - Heaven. The purpose of his life, like other living creatures, is the glory of God. The creator is not against his creatures enjoying the fullness of his work on earth because God enjoys the fullness of his work in Heaven and earth and he is pleased if we also the enjoy the fullness of his work in Heaven and on earth, so I didn't see the point of you saying ''... so that you can waste the years you have to spend on this Earth running around a field and kicking an inflated leather ball around? " Would God bar sportsman, enthusiasts and lovers from his kingdom because they chose to partake in sports?

My friend, you could have just told him that eternity is more important (which is still not necessary because you don't know his standing with GOD) far more important and should focus MORE on that instead of dismissing him for (asking what you call a frivolous question) being a sports lover and expressing surprise that someone - an educated Nigerian adult male in his late 30s or 40s is ignorant of what he should have been exposed to even if he's not a sports lover.

We are still on earth and cannot be rid of asking frivolous questions brother. You would probably do same before the day runs out and no one is supposed to criticize you for such.

Would it have been right to give the same response if someone says I don't believe that X, Y, Z didn't know that Pythagoras is Greek, or I just found out that adding garlic powder and onion stew to banga soup makes for a terrible constipation. I mean, these are earthly mundane things and are not wrong when we express shock that people are ignorant of them.

But when someone asks

How do I carry olosho in Iyana Ipaja or I don't believe that there are still people in Badagary who do not know that Augba Streets has plenty of whores; ehen your response would have been a perfect match for any of these. A fine, powerful response to OP's question at that, but not telling him that God would kick him out of Heaven because he finds it odd that a Nigerian male does not have interest in sports and asks questions to express the shock. I understand that the OP might be so engrossed in sports at the expense of his standing with GOD, but you should wait for him to fall completely - like a hunter waits for a prey so that he can fall for it - first.

May God forgive all of us.

Trinitycian:
This is not a debate sir. You're being lectured, that's the honest truth. I have dismantled your points, posed a challenge. You haven't dismantled mine neither have you provided answers to my question. So what's the debate here?

You are talking about scripture, yet no single proof either from the scripture or scriptural vaults.

You just make baseless, wild claims and expect me to accept when there are biblical points and references on ground? Your colleague is even saying speaking in Tongues disunites people. Just imagine the kind of people I am conversing with

Trinitycian:
Bro, pick your 'L' and move on. You have nothing to offer, like your master, Tinubu. Take corrections or the metaphorical "L"

Trinitycian:
Going about in circles and dodging my challenge. You're now attacking biblical stories, the entire Bible has been dismissed as fairytale. In fact, going by this, languages, according to various scientific and linguistic sources predated the Bible. That's a topic for another day.

The subject matter is Tinubu and his "Speaking in Tongues" gaffe. Show me any reputable source that linked it to the Babel story. That's the challenge. The etymology is online. Collocation and contexts are online. I don’t enjoy regurgitating same thing over and over again.

Please show me any source linking them or pick your "L" and move on like others.

Trinitycian:
Bro, why are you dodging my challenge? I dare you to trace Tinubu's gaffe to any source.

You use Speaking in Tongues of acts, I have dismantled it and told you why it's blasphemous using it to defend Tinubu.

You use Tower of Babel, I told you why it's not even related with proof. And even if we agree for the sake of argument that it's related, then it'll be blasphemous as the symbol of Babel is confusion and disunity. That's why it's "Confusion of Tongues". But it isn't even related as linking Speaking in Tongues with Confusion of Tongues is in itself blasphemous because the Holy Spirit is the one responsible for gifting it. He doesn’t gift 'disunity'

So whichever way you look at it, Tinubu goofed. Most are now avoiding Babel after they read my point and tried to justify Speaking in Tongues of the New Testament. But even that, they can't defend as it's gifted, not Inherited. And the speakers speak in the language they don't understand. The language can be Heavenly understood only by God or human language, understood only by God and the owners of the language. However, the speakers themselves by definition would not understand what they're speaking.

This is a simple matter. You can also verify it. Have you seen anyone disprove my points citing any reputable source?

No. They're only insulting me and making wild claims that have no basis in scripture.

Trinitycian:
Bro, kindly disprove my points with facts. I have given the differences between confusion of Tongues and speaking in Tongues and even challenged you guys to show me any reputable source that linked speaking in Tongues to the Tower of Babel. Unfortunately, none has been able. Instead, I get attacked and tagged ipob terrorist, though some admitted.

I have also explained why we should be mindful of terms we used and even went as far as explaining linguistic terms like "collocation" and "context". These are simple things that can be verified. You can either confirm or disprove.

Tinubu was heard clearly saying "Speaking in Tongues". Some tried to justify him using Speaking In Tongues of the New Testament. I explained why it isn't, some accepted, while some switched to "oh, he was referring to Babel ". I explained why it isn't with facts and even passed a challenge. None could disprove. So some admitted while some resorted to personal attack. You can go through my post history.

This is a simple matter really. We learn every day. We are telling you guys that, look, the collocation of Speaking in Tongues in biblical term isn't used to refer to Babel in any way. If you disagree, you can go to Google and search its etymology and usage. Also, if you are in a Christian gathering and you utter the phrase "Speaking in Tongues", no one will imagine Tower of Babel. That's why it's called collocation and context.

As for fake Bishop, I won't regurgitated previous explanations as even Muslims know they are fake. So what's the point? Waste my time?

divinehand2003:
Hahaha

Buhari is only playing to the gallery. Of course he doesn't mean it at all.

He probably does mean it. That’s how he folded his arms during the APC Presidential primaries and allowed people like Osinbajo. Amaechi, ONU, etc, to bite the dust, right there in his presence ….he did not even give his ministers their job back after their losses!
Now, the man is only concerned about his legacy, his cows and the fura he will be getting after his retirement.
Please don’t say I told you oo!

Trinitycian:
You could be right that he didn't do it intentionally. But would Christians feel that way, especially after the fake bishops saga and the infamous Muslim-Muslim ticket?

Anyway, I have no issues with that personally. Just felt like correcting those who argued that he was right. My point is he isn't. Whether he did it intentionally or not is his business

Trinitycian:
I am not being strict bro. I am simply being honest. Tinubu might blaspheme mistakenly against Islam one day with his utterances.

Tinubu goofed and should be corrected. I suspect he did that intentionally. Was he not the one that hired fake bishops ? And his Muslim-Muslim ticket? That's why people are talking. The intention is what we don't know. Could be a harmless mistake. Could be intentional. If not for the fake bishops saga, people would have ignored the goof

Trinitycian:
I have repeated this more than 1000 times. SPEAKING IN TONGUES is not CONFUSION OF TONGUES.

I challenge you to show me any reputable source that traces the etymology of "SPEAKING in TONGUES" to the Tower of Babel. I challenge you!

Trinitycian:
Reread my previous post. I also posed a challenge.

Whichever interpretation you use is faulty. I have explained this sufficiently in my previous posts. Read them. If possible, attempt the challenge I posed

Trinitycian:
Simple question. Show me. I have asked you to learn the meaning of collocation. Confusion of Tongues is not Speaking In Tongues.

If you trace the origin of the biblical phrase "Speaking in Tongues", I don’t think any reputable source would link you to the Tower of Babel. Context and collocation. Tinubu has to be sure and coherent. He might one day inadvertently blaspheme against Islam with his unguarded utterances.

Trinitycian:
Show me any reputable source that traced "Speaking in Tongues" to the Tower of Babel.

Trinitycian:
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time, "Speaking in Tongues" has no collocation with either Babel or whatever you are saying. That's because the speakers, by definition do not understand the language they speak when gifted by the Holy Spirit. That's one of the features of Speaking in Tongues.

I have challenged you guys to trace the etymology of the phrase and show me where it's linked with the story of Babel but none has been able to show me.

It all depends on how you understand the statement made and the context in which it was made!
The biblical story of humanity being dispersed into “Speaking in different tongues” can be traced to the Tower of Babel whereas the event where the Disciples of Christ were reported to have been able to understand and dialogue with people of differing tongues is also generally referred to as “speaking in tongues” like the ‘jabajababrrrjaba’ being mimicked by present-day Christians who believe that this is a Gift of Above. The two events are not the same and did not happen at the same time.
Make your choice as to which one Jagaban was referring to!

Trinitycian:
Read https://www.nairaland.com/7311562/tinubu-blasphemed-saying-inherited-speaking

The link you cited has Nothing in it….it certainly does not address the question posed!
Anyway, who amongst you determines whether something is blasphemous or not ….is it for You, your Pastor, Bishop or Pope to say?
You guys are actually sinning more than you know…..because the occurrence of the Disciples speaking in tongues was an event occasioned by certain factors about which you know very little. As is their habit, people go to town mimicking what they do not understand.
All one can say about it all is: The Lord is not mocked!

Trinitycian:
You DON’T inherit the gift of speaking in Tongues because it's not a gift meant for every Tom, Dick and Harry. Also, when speaking in Tongues, you speak in languages you DID NOT PREVIOUSLY KNOW.

Anything other than that is not speaking in Tongues. Please learn what collocation means so you don't go about blaspheming inadvertently.

Trinitycian:
You DON’T inherit the gift of speaking in Tongues because it's not a gift meant for every Tom, Dick and Harry. Also, when speaking in Tongues, you speak in languages you DID NOT PREVIOUSLY KNOW.

Anything other than that is not speaking in Tongues. Please learn what collocation means so you don't go about blaspheming inadvertently.

Trinitycian:
Tinubu doesn't grant interviews cos he's full of shit. Nothing upstairs


"We Inherited Speaking In Tongues from the Bible" has 2 interpretations and both are blasphemous.

INTERPRETATION ONE... (Acts 2)

Using this interpretation, Tinubu is saying we "Inherited" God's gift from the Bible. Speaking in Tongues is a gift, not an inheritance. It's a gift granted by the HOLY SPIRIT to speak languages the speaker DID NOT PREVIOUSLY KNOW. It's not Inherited, but gifted by the Holy Spirit.


(WRONG) INTERPRETATION TWO.. (Tower of Babel Genesis 11:1 - 9 )

This interpretation is even more blasphemous. Tower of Babel is a symbol of disunity. The confusion and disunity God afflicted them was punishment for their act of rebellion and arrogance. In other words, the story of Babel explains how /why we had different languages leading to confusion and tribalism and eventually disunity. So saying we inherited it from the Bible would mean we inherited our current disunity from the Bible.

So those linking what Tinubu said to the Tower of Babel should have a rethink.


WHY INTERPRETATION TWO IS WRONG...

Speaking In Tongues means "Gift of Tongues". In English, there's a term called 'collocation'. Collocation, according to Wikipedia "refers to a natural (predictable) combination of words that are closely affiliated with each other."
Speaking in Tongues has no affiliation with the Tower of Babel disunity. This is why if you trace the origin of 'speaking in Tongues', you won't see the story of Babel.

So my advice is that Tinubu should learn how to speak coherently before he inadvertently blaspheme against Islam. We know what would happen next.

donaldking100:
Urchins na so 70 year old men de look for una village?
Someone who was bold enough to hire fake bishops, won't find it difficult lying about his age.
Please tell Mr Fake Bishops to show us a copy of his birth certificates, we want to confirm something.
Obi has shown us everything, including his school & birth certificates, but Tinubu keeps telling us stories.
The same stories that Buhari told us which landed us into this mess that we are all collectively suffering.
Urchins una mumu never do?
Dem swear for una on-top this A.P.C matter?
Why are you people so determined to destroy this Nigeria kpata-kpata.

Let’s look at this issue of age from another angle.
The wife he has been married to for the past 40 years, Remi Tinubu is 61 years ….no dispute about that!
Tinubu’s first daughter Iyaloja is 46 years old (she’s only heavily built)…..no dispute about that!
So, why should anyone find it strange that Tinubu says he’s 70 years old?……nine years older than his wife!
In fact, any difference in age higher than that will strike one as illogical.
Would a pretty lady like Remi marry someone 20 or 25 years older than her in this modern age as some people are suggesting?
It simply beats the imagination!!

DaddyFreeze2020:
Very foolish comment coming from a supposed "educated" person like you. Are you sure you went to the 4 walls of an educational institution or you're just a degenerate tribalist.

So because Cameroon has an aged President that has been a total failure, Nigerians should copy them and replicate failure in our national life?

DaddyFreeze2020:
Why is Tinubu always being led like a toddler in every meeting with polticians as though he has eye sight problems. This has nothing to do with love and affection as some of his supporters always claim.

There must be some things those around him are hiding so as to use his influence to gain political power and economic wealth from Nigeria's treasury

Nigerians must unite and reject the APC in 2023.

MadeInTokyo:

Tinubu is seriously sick

Teeroyzimma:
Im Yoruba, I've put sentiment aside to vote the right person for our dying country

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar

Tinubu will never rule Nigeria

…but he sure will, if the Almighty decrees it. Yours is just like the rantings of an ant…..so inconsequential in the scheme of things!
So, save your breath make we hear word abeg

MadeInTokyo:
Amaechi will definitely sabotage Tinubu in Rivers State, he is still pissed off over the APC Presidential Primary just like Wike, the problem with Wike is his enemies know his next moves because he talks too much.
But Amaechi has been extremely quiet, you don't know what he has up his sleeves

Gistsme1:
Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1B9ULXcq2o

A video shared online captured the moment Peter Obi Supporter wear Pampers to mock the APC presidential candidate Bola Tinubu while singing popular Emilokan song.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ch2zTDXjvpT/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Some juvenile delinquents who lack home training prefer to dig their own graves with their mouths!
Growing old in sound health is a privilege denied to many !!