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Kenyan28: I have not watched it personally but one morning while I was at work, Pr. Theo, CE Pastor assigned to Kenya called me about it. He wanted me to watch as it was being aired.

Tell us @Kenyan28, how are you doing now since you found out about the sham called 'the Healing School'?, how is your daughter? how have you been faring?

Kenyan28: I understand my "testimony" has been aired at least twice!

Have you watched the video clip of your testimony? how do you know it was aired? where was it aired?

Kenyan28: Pastor Austine Olumese was our group leader, he took the results to a certain mama who works closely with Pr Chris, they kept it until the following day.again, since my results where negative and I had no +ve report to show, I was instructed at the interview to say that I was still +ve

interesting! Who instructed you? the camera crew? a pastor or healing school staff? tell us please

@Kenyan28,
I want to understand , what exactly did the healing school tell you when you brought a report that said negative instead of positive before ever you were admitted into the school?

Kenyan28: Yes, Sir John. That is exactly what they did.

So when and where did you finally find out you were still positive?

Kenyan28: Yes he did minister to me BUT 2(two) weeks after I had presented my "negative" report to the healing school. The healing school team instructed me to say/testify that I got "negative" after Pr. Chris ministered to me which was total Lie. I understand my "testimony" has been aired at least twice!

So what you are saying is that they got a negative result from you but proceeded to put you in the healing line and instructed you to say that you were negative after Chris had prayed for you. Is that correct?

Kenyan28: Sir John, which part don't u understand? I have said before that the herbs that I took kept me symptom free. In late 2005 and early 2006, I took herbs for only 4 months and stopped but I was symptom free for 2 years or more.

Hmm, so tell us, how were you ministered to at the healing school? Did Pastor Chris lay hands on you?

Kenyan28: If I can remember very well, it was until June of 2011 when all the symptoms were back and since I was expectant of my baby, I assumed it was the weakness that comes about with pregnancy. I left the healing school in April 2010.

Have you ever stayed this long without symptoms before the healing School? please be very honest

Kenyan28: Like I said earlier, I did not have a medical report that said I was Positive. I was so scared my hubby(fiance then) and parents would find it as they escorted me to the airport. As u know and mentioned, its a requirement to have a medical report before admission to the healing school. 2 days to my interview date I got a text that I was required to have a medical report that said I was positive.I requested my host, who was working at the HS to take me to a VCT center for the test. I went, did a test that showed "negative". I can bet this is where my "negative" results were baked.

So for how long after the result did you stay symptom free?

Kenyan28: Oh yes, like I said earlier in this thread, I took herbs that boosted my CD4 cells, reducing the viral load. For instance in 2005, I took herbs that kept me symptom free for close to 2 years. Infact the time I went to the healing school I was kinda symptom free.

Really! What herb was that?
So at what point and where did you do the test that showed you were negative?

Kenyan28: I had known for 8 years.

Okay, Was there any period of time within this 8 years that you lived free of symptoms of the virus before your visit to healing school?

Kenyan28: Not at all Sir John, go ahead and ask.

For how long did you know you had the virus before deciding to go to the healing school in south Africa?

Kenyan28: Hi John, I am here still following. What about me again?

Do you mind if I ask you some questions about your experience at the healing school in 2010?

@Kenyan28, Do you mind if I ask you certain Questions just to clear the air on some issues?

Kenyan28: I am still following this thread very cleanly.

Hello Kenyan28, Glad to have you back. You've been at the centre of some friction lately

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mbaemeka: Delusion works either ways. I am either deluded or you are. I read your exchange with Joagbaje and I trust his account more as you have changed your stories on so many occasions. The lady in question didn't expect your call at first and then she denied everything to you including ever having any eye- defect. When Joagbaje told her who you were she told you she was healed of blindness but you came on NL and claimed she said it was only an eye-defect with her having "peppery" sensations. Joagbaje came back to say she vehemently called you a liar for claiming that. Much later, when Joagbaje offered you more phone numbers to verify other cases you said you were no longer interested in numbers again.

Again you evade talking about your take on the video posted
Well Bro, you have already taken a side on a matter so what difference does it make. I called the lady and her brother and they never admitted that she was blind period. I'm sure joagbaje still has her contact, you can do a follow up yourself . He told me he had proof of a boy healed of a hole in the heart, when I demanded he provide the x-rays showing the before and after, he started brandishing numbers of other people. tell me why would I call anyone again when I have been accused of lying with the first one I called?

mbaemeka: Tell the world where you got the pictures from. I am itching to hear it.

You are one very funny guy, you enjoy making things look complicated. Every picture I have posted from the HS have been from either the HS site or the HS magazine. I have not denied that and it doesn't make any difference where the pictures are from. in my last post I said "Those were not just pictures from the healing school website" I gave links to pictures in the HS website in my original post but the links no longer work so I had to post some of the pictures directly. I wonder how little things like this are difficult for you to understand. Those were folks from the 2008 HS session, if you think they're not then let me know Bro.

mbaemeka: There are spare wheelchairs and stretchers in the HS many of which were left behind by people who got healed in previous sessions and decided to donate it

Oh come on!, I was hoping you wouldn't say this, it was the same crap Pst Deola Okeowo said at the beginning of the HS session. But like I mentioned in my original post, there was no such thing. Some of the wheelchairs used in the HS where borrowed from other students. In 2008 for example, out of over 100 wheelchair cases in that session, only five made it to the healing line, out of that five, three were given wheelchairs taken from other students, only two came with their wheelchairs and they where not crippled but had conditions that required them to stay less on their feet so as not to put more pressure on their limbs; one of such conditions is arthritis. Even after they were prayed for and asked to stand out of the wheelchair to the amazement of the unsuspecting audience who obviously thought these folks couldn't walk, they quietly sat back in their wheelchairs as before after the audience had left.

mbaemeka: It is a known fact that some conditions get worse even while at the HS and as such some people were placed on those wheelchairs and stretchers to aid them before they could meet the MOG. Some other conditions had people who couldn't really walk well but the lines would have looked disorganized if someone was there to help them stand or back them. Putting them on the wheelchairs only makes it more "Packaged" or organized. Many CE members told you this but did you listen to them? No.

Again my friend, this is what you were made to believe, all these folks were well able to stand and walk up till when they were prayed for. Those who are unable to stand and walk never I repeat NEVER make it to the healing line. Pst Chris ministers to only people he knows will get up when he says so because the healing line has been carefully selected. I explained the process in my initial write up

mbaemeka: Concerning Kenya28

Yes concerning Kenyan28, I'd rather not talk about her again as her matter has resorted to "your word against mine" "She said he said".
The truth is, a lot of what she posted initially were modified facts just to give credence to her healing story. God opened her eyes and she came out clean with me. You dont have to feel for her, she and her daughter is doing very fine now and her daughter I understand is now free of the virus.
Its very possible that her husband is HIV free as it is not automatic to contract the virus even if you have sexual intercourse with an infected person. percentage can sometimes be less than 1 in 1000 chance.

mbaemeka: I am sure you meant 2008. Now you say you left in November of 2008. Fine. Please explain this:

You're trying too hard to evade several strong issues raised on the post and endlessly clinging to trivial issues. Oh I get it, you're trying unsuccessfully to put a hole in a small part of my story so you can discredit the entire account.
Sorry Bro, it aint working

mbaemeka: It still doesn't explain why Pastor Chris has been able to deceive some of the biggest names who testify that they went there and got healed and are still alive today. It still doesn't explain the testimonies of many others who have come in contact with Pastor Chris and got healed. It does not checkmate the testimonies of those who graced your thread in 2008 to proffer alternate views to yours neither does it gainsay the testimony of my friend- the one who heard his case being called out on TV to almost mirror-like accuracy by the Man of God. It does not explain why people still throng the Healing school in South Africa as well as the one in Canada. That's one aspect.

I posted a video of how W V Grant and Peter Poppoff was exposed by James Randi, these were men who supposedly worked miracles and displayed exceptional gifts of the spirit, yet they were exposed for who they are: scam artists. What is more disturbing is not that they were exposed but the level certain loyalists are ready to put their lives on the line for a belief they have been made to embrace. I suggest you watch that video again, it will explain more of what I mean. Delusion is the word
I challenged a lot of those phoney testimonies here on NL and even took Joagbaje on a challenge when he bragged about a woman he supposedly healed of blindness, it later didn't go down well as Joagbaje accused me of lying after the woman I interviewed on phone told me she was never blind. The whole of that exchange is still here on NL for reference purposes.

mbaemeka: I made references to miracles I experienced while in CE Ojo by the Resident Pastor. I even went as far as telling you that the recipient of one of the healings never went out to testify and he is still Asthma free as we speak. How do I explain such a "scam" using your thesis? How do I explain the scam of my interaction with a woman while I worked as an official during the Higher life Conference in PHC 2008 where the lady acted recalcitrant while she was trying to purchase a book for lower than the stipulated price. The same lady refused to sit where she was asked to and I watched her making phone calls virtually all through the happenings on the day but when the Man of God, Pastor Chris began to pray that same lady began to manifest by striking herself repeatedly on the floor and jerking uncontrollably. Then after the programme the lady came to apologize to me (I was the Usher on that Aisle) and if you had looked at her you could tell that something different had happened to her. How do you explain it to me?

mbaemeka: [b]So the pictures you got from the Healing school website to which you gave your own interpretations to are the hard-evidences you got [/b]or did you take your own cameras to provide us with your own? Did you investigate the people that got healed and you could prove that they were actors? Do you have the proofs so we too can subject them to our own investigations if they exist? If your story is true will you need to falsify instances and prevaricate the one's you didn't even see? For example, you claimed that "all the HIV positive people were sent to a particular Hospital in Randberg where they were sure to get a new Negative result" and you said Kenya28 provided you with such information. Yet her post's at the time clearly show that the Hospital she went to had Nurses (the one's that helped test her) that expressed their hatred for Pastor Chris, so why did you taint it and claim otherwise or are you saying that the nurses averring that they 'hate him' was also part of their act?

Those were not just pictures from the healing school website, they were people I saw and stayed with for two weeks who later ended up in borrowed wheelchairs only when pastor chris ministered to them, a fact you and all of christ embassy have not been able to explain.

As for the case of Kenyan28, when she came in 2010 shouting about her healing, I wasn't moved; I knew she wasn't telling the whole truth like most people who want to promote healing claims. in fact below is a post I did at that time when she came ranting:

[quote author=SirJohn 1:03pm On Jun 30, 2010 ]Kenyan28 is shouting so loud cos she wants to silence the truth echoing in her mind but what she fails to understand is that no matter how loud she shouts, the truth will still stare at her right in the face.
Go ahead shout all you can, TIME WILL TELL [/quote]When eventually time revealed the truth, I was able to reach her on phone and that was when I asked her to tell me how she tested negative and she told me that she and a couple of other people were directed to a hospital by a healing school staff and they all tested negative there. she never bothered to test somewhere else afterwards. She is still alive today and I can call on her to come reveal more.

mbaemeka: You also said you made up your mind "several months back [before November]" and later, retrospectively said that you did your research in 6 months and then came up with your findings. So when was it: when did you really leave, as the answer to that can explain how you made your research?

Sometimes I wonder how it is difficult for you to understand something so simple:
I was at the healing school between May 5th 2009 to June 3rd 2009. A period in which though I observed several things, I fought with the thoughts and like you, tried to make excuses for the things I saw. I left in November after my meeting with Pst Sola Olubode, I don't know if I mentioned anywhere that my Sis was a Pastor in the ministry, in fact, She was Pst Sola Olubode's PA and in charge of partnership in the branch. She eventually resigned and left the ministry too several days after I left.

mbaemeka: I mean you no disrespect but you are sounding like an obsessed fan that was jilted by your celebrity crush. If you left CEC in 2008 because of the sham in the Healing school and you have told your story why not give it a rest? Why do you still monitor the ministry's activities even more than those that are still there close to 6 years after (If we assume you left November)? Why does the mention of Pastor Chris or CE cause you sleepless nights? If the ministry is as demonic or fake as you say why not go to the one you feel more ahome in or better still start your own? Why are you still looking for reasons to retract your claims if you are already cork-sure about them?

Bro, I have moved on, but very much aware of happenings around me not just in CE. I don't know how this thread and the other one made it to FP recently. Believe me, I would have cared less about it but on a second thought decided to comment. I still have loads of CE friends both within and outside Nigeria so its a no-brainer how I know certain things by default.

mbaemeka: As per your "Hacked accounts and unsolicited CE correspondence" it's mind-boggling to know which untrained CE brethren will do that (If at all the story is true). It is unlike us.

You aint seen nothing bro

mbaemeka: I have been seeing the notifications each time I Log in. I would respectfully decline your request for two reasons.

1. I am led to.
2. I don't have access to email address that I used to register with this account.

If you notice any "perceived" ills in the church of Christ as a whole I beseech you to write your grievances to the constituted authority even as you supplement it with prayers of intercession as is the custom of a child of God. I for one, do not partake with workers of dissension nor do I entertain them in any form for I do not want to be part of any man's sin and therefore curses.

My humble submission. Hope you understand.

Cheers.

Its a free world Bro, no hard feelings...
I had so many things to say at some point last week after you tried unsuccessfully to make me a liar. It was very obvious you were carried away and didn't read my write up objectively, instead you resorted to cherry picking and splitting hairs to make your point but it obviously didn't work.
I was glad when you mentioned that you were at CE Ojo when I wrote that post, I had waited for you to make your calls to verify as you said you would. But then I again I'm wondering how come you didn't know me yourself if you really were in CE Ojo at that time
Yes I was the secretary of Haven 1, I was also a lecturer at the foundation school of CE Ojo (A school I passed through as the best graduating student in my time), I was a cell leader in the Haven and part of the first contact (follow up) team

I have had several off forum conversation over the years with some of your brethren here including Joagbaje, I was hoping we'd relate at that level too. We may not agree on everything but it doesn't make us enemies. For the sake of being gentlemanly, I wont say some of the things I and Joagbaje have discussed off this forum on phone and through emails.

The things I wrote were exactly what I saw, fast-forward six years later, I have not seen any reason to retract my words. The leadership of the ministry had the opportunity to explain but they failed to do so; I had a one on one with Pst. Sola Olubode in his office back then, this was after I had written a letter. I showed him hard evidence and told him all I wanted was an explanation, he was so infuriated to the point of banging on his table and even said I was dabbling into things greater than myself.

I'm sure you know Deacon Demo (I understand he's now a pastor) he is one of the few men that lent an ear and even told me things that I wish not to state here for his sake alone. if and when the situation permits, I will name people you are most likely familiar with so you can verify anything I say.

Its not easy being on my side of the tide you know, I have had my FB and email accounts hacked severally and unsolicited emails and CE correspondence sent to me without request. I have also received strange emails from people claiming to have seen my email address on NL, yet those emails were my very private emails that have not been shared on this forum. I have nothing to fear or hide, if I said anything which is not what I saw then let God be judge.

Thank You!

@mbaemeka,
I have been trying to PM you for a while now. You seem to know about CE ojo and I'd appreciate if you respond to my PM.
there are things I don't want to say on the forum as they may involve some names.
Kindly oblige my request.
Regards

@mbaemeka,
Your robust reply was and attempt to reveal 1001 contradictions in my story was very comical.
I'll teach you what a robust reply is and that's what I have taken some time off my very busy schedule to do.

Let me start by correcting you Sir;
Yes I was at the healing school May 2008 session and yes I participated all four weeks of the session.
The may session had two parts, the first part ran from I think 5th of May 2008 to 19th May 2008, the second session started immediately and ended on the 3rd of June. A total of about 1000 participants or should I say students were admitted in the May session, about 500 students in each part. All these details like may others I have provided in this forum can be verified.

You quoted a post I made on NL back in May 2008 in defense of Pastor Chris, well its very simple, I was still a member and follower of Chris at that time, My mind was made up about the things that I saw in the healing school several months after part 2 of the session which ended on June 3rd 2008.

There are about six months between the end of the session and my original post on NL; within this time, I did series of consultations with several leaders in the ministry starting from my leader, the governor of Haven 1 Christ Embassy Ojo and other deacons and pastors.

Attached with this write up is the unedited letter I wrote to my pastor at that time, he had seen my post on NL and demanded that I write officially to him; I believe Chris eventually got a copy of the letter.

You also asked why I didn't pray for the person I took to the healing school; well that's funny considering who this is coming from. Why not ask CE pastors that send folks to the healing school why they do so

One of the most disturbing questions among many other things about the healing school was why did people have to be put in wheelchairs even when they can previously stand and walk? Why are people made to lie on stretchers and beds to appear to be bedridden when in fact they are not?

I have attached a video of a similar act by a certain minister by the name of WV Grant whose antics were exposed by James Randi (you can fast forward to 1:43 on the video)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAzqiYvlOY

The people captured in the pictures attached were participants in the may 2008 session and both (including many more I will post later) did not come to the healing school with wheelchairs. they could both previously stand and walk

mbaemeka: Expect a robust reply from me on my observations from SirJohn's account.

mbaemeka: I can show you 1001 contradictions in the super-story of SirJohn but it will not convince you because you are blinded to truth.

So after all you said above, this was the best you could come up with... I'll respond to it shortly

mbaemeka: Trustman,
Drum rolls! The inducement begins with the first line ^^ to make his account seem believable
Here he is employing the same tactics that he is accusing CEC of by trying to appear believable. Interestingly he adds that a large number of pastors and partners are being hoodwinked. Only SirJohn was wise enough to spot the ploy even if he went there to get an invalid healed. *nods*
All through May he says he was at the Healing school. Which means by the 19th he should have already spent either or close to 2 weeks and has already made most if not all of his observations yet he made this post when Pastor Chris was accused of paying people money to act healed:
If this were true, you should have atleast some of your experiences where you applied his teachings and saw results. How many sick people did you heal? How many miraculous things happened since 2004- nearly 4 years later? Why did you continue believing the teachings (that you followed to the letter) without seeing results?
Why didn't you try to minister to the person yourself?
I expected these "several" folks to come out and report the charade that they were experiencing. I would have done so. In fact, I would have caused a scene like Bartimeaus.
O they could walk? So why were they at the HS to begin with?
If they had no signs of pain or disability, what were they doing at the HS? And they were several of them. Hmmm. Your memory must be very good to have kept track of all of them while your invalid was waiting to be healed. Commendable discovery.
I understand. The Pastors and partners were being deceived bare-faced and you, who went there to get an invalid healed, had seen beyond all the hullabaloo.
Wow, it's a miracle. The man exercised his faith and began to walk after 2 days? He should have gone home. Why did he stay? And you were observing him from day 1 till day 14 (even as you observed all the people in the HS)? Wow. I won't have had time to observe people like this, given that I went there to get someone else healed.
I don't know why the man stayed 13 days after he started exercising his faith. Besides, did Pastor Chris know that the man had been previously moving around without the neck guard and crutches?
Interesting. Earlier you said
Now you observed that 1 of the ladies that acted healed by standing and walking quietly sat back in her wheelchair with a pale look on her face. Why did she have a pale look on her face if she could already walk and stand? She should have been walking and acting very normal. That would have been a better deception, don't you think?
In conclusion, I can say without a doubt that you are a journalist or maybe a very good writer with imaginative predispositions. You were not a member of CEC (at least not in Spirit) and you did not go there with any invalid.
You went there to prove that what you had suspected about the HS was true, so you spent a large part of your May 2008 observing what you were seeing there and thinking of creative ways to re-tell it. The account you gave us lasted for 2 weeks but you said you spent 4 weeks there. Why didn't you leave after the first session (2 weeks)? That would have been the breaking point for me. After noticing that the place was a charade I won't have bothered waiting for the next session if I really went there to get someone healed. The only thing that would have kept me for the extra 2 weeks is if I was on an assignment.
I see no reason why a HAVEN secretary who had been in the ministry for 4 years (coughs) and has attended a handful of conferences won't have seen people in the audience that got healed without Pastor Chris laying hands on them and many of them don't ever end up testifying. I struggle to understand who your branch Pastor was that you never saw anyone get healed in the programmes he would have organized. I don't know why you didn't take your own advice by talking to the people who "acted" healed and investigated them? Why didn't you check if they were being paid to act?
I believe between May and November when you made your post, something happened to you and I doubt it had anything to do with your experience in the HS. I don't know your grouse with Pastor Chris but I think that it is personal and has veered off into the situation where you always wake up when his name is mentioned (you came on the "lost" threads that talked about his trip to India and the auditorium he built in AAU) amongst other things.
I know many people and I have heard testimonies of many others who visited the HS and came back healed. All of them are still hale and hearty. So I leave you to the observers as you can never convince anyone who applies the name of Jesus to situations and sicknesses and has seen results (sometimes instant) that 1) healings are fake or placebo-effect elicited 2) that Pastor Chris who we see use the name of Jesus for the same situations is faking it.
He can deceive people for some time certainly (if he was faking it). But not for how many years now- to the point that he has even started another one in Canada despite all the allegations and "scandals". Besides, what does he stand to gain? He doesn't charge a fee and contrary to your assertions that they "force" people to become partners that was not my experience so I don't know what to make of yours, except to conclude that it is not true.
I rest my case.

mbaemeka: She said she didn't get ministered to by Pastor Chris. That she had received her healing before he even got there by just applying her faith in the word of God. Then she left the HS and went to a hospital in SA to get another HIV test and it tested Negative. She even admitted that the nurses in the hospital despised the MOG and even said they didn't believe in the HS. This definitely means they would have done their test extra judiciously so that they could prove to her that she wasn't healed- they were wrong. She testified in that hospital and she said nobody could refute her because they could very well see that she had just tested negative.

I really wish I could stay silent on this one, but on a second thought, I wish to speak.

First of all, Kenyan28 is alive and currently living a healthy life with her husband and daughter who presently does not have any trace of the virus anymore. She acted on my advice to explore every available treatment and so far it has been impressive.

Back to your post and special ref to the statement in bold, Kenyan28 reliably informed me that after the healing school session she attended, she and several other folks who came with HIV+ issue were directed by a pastor or leader (I cant remember which one exactly) to a hospital in SA to be tested. According to her, everyone that tested in that hospital came out with a negative result; others however that went elsewhere tested positive.
As to why and how she had temporary symptomatic relief has already been dealt with on the original thread.

@Gombs
Posting videos will not help your argument, they are all edited clips showing only what Chris wants you to see and hear. I have been behind the scenes before so I can tell. I already re-posted one of my earlier posts from 2008 on one of the videos you posted ie the story of Ama Aponsah

Gombs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmACjtwwoYk

[quote author=SirJohn 7:42pm On Dec 03, 2008 ]This is a healing school video I uploaded on youtube (I had to split them into seven parts for easy upload)
***Please download after watching as this video may be censored due to copyright reasons***

Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUj_2zjYf5E
Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LUQpSLhs5I
Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEFfh22a1s
Part 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnN-sAjIm58
Part 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2HuCTc2_ns
Part 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDg3pG7ZEtM
Part 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXaEahB-Uq0

It is a testimony of the ‘miraculous’ healing of Mrs Ama Aponsah of Ghana. In this video, we are made to believe that she was healed of breast cancer and brain tumor after Pastor Chris ministered to her in one of the Healing School sessions in South Africa. I wish to point out some discrepancies in this testimony which I observed after watching this video and reading a report of this ‘healing’ from the August edition of the Healing School magazine. I have also seen and spoken to Mrs Ama in person when she was invited to the May 2008 Healing School session in Lagos to share her testimony before a live audience (I was part of the audience).

Firstly, in part 1 of this video, Mrs Ama Aponsah is said to be ‘totally incapacitated’ and unconscious of her environment or anything going on around her. Watching this video, one would not fail to notice certain things that point to the fact that someone is definitely lying somewhere.
Did you notice that Mrs Amah never coughed until the exact moment Adolph Kofi Lampte mentioned that she coughs? Notice also that she didn’t cough afterwards. (you be the judge).

If she was unconscious like was said and completely oblivious of her surrounding, how come she was singing along with the music. (Or was that the beginning of the ‘miracle’)

In the video, Pastor Chris said she “went into a deep sleep momentarily” when he laid hands on her. I’ve played this video over and over again and at no point did she appear to be sleeping, she seemed conscious to me. ( I don’t know about you)

This is a summary of Mrs Ama’s case: she was diagnosed of breast cancer; afterwards, it degenerated into brain tumor. She began medical treatment which involved chemotherapy; she stopped her chemotherapy and sought divine healing at the Healing School. At the Healing School she was prayed for by Pastor Chris, but was taken back to Ghana in the same condition. Now the video shows a supposedly ‘healed’ Amah sharing her testimony.

Now here is the part of the story not included in this video: I happened to be at the meeting in Lagos where Mrs Ama was invited to come and share her testimony before a live audience of partners, pastors and Healing School students. She said everything you heard in the video except that in the video, she did not mention that after she was flown to Ghana straight to the hospital, she spent six weeks in the ICU receiving serious medical attention. She had gone to resume the chemotherapy she abandoned before coming to the healing school. According to her, she was sedated after that period of time and woke up seven days later. The doctors discharged her knowing she was stable enough to leave. It seems to me here that someone is trying to take the glory for the good effort of medical doctors. They refused to add that part or probably edited it out of her testimony while creating that video. Maybe it would have made the ‘miracle’ look less spectacular.

In the August edition of the healing School magazine, see link: http://www.christembassyhealingschool.org/new/images/pdf/August2008.pdf; Mrs Amah was reported to have woken up only a few days after returning from the Healing School and that the doctors ‘discovered she was healed and discharged her immediately’, a report which is totally untrue.

Now hear this: During the meeting, after Mrs Ama had finished sharing her testimony; she walked up to meet Pastor Chris on the platform and whispered something to his ear. she had told him that the condition had further deteriorated into partial loss of vision; He had to pray yet again for her.
Later that night after the meeting closed, I was on my way out when I saw Mrs Ama in front of me. I was shocked at what I saw; the same Mrs Ama Aponsah who walked majestically up and down the platform to show everyone she was truly healed was being aided to walk by another woman. She could barely move and even trembled as she walked. Just to be sure I saw the right person; I called her name ‘Sister Ama’ she turned to me and we exchanged pleasantries. At close range, she didn’t look okay at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!. She is obviously still battling with the condition. The thought of it lingered on my mind for a long time.

So just what on earth is going on at the Healing School? Just what are they trying to make us believe?[/quote]

nnenneigbo: WOW! couldn't do anything else once i came across this post. It was up and done, glad i didn't write anything whilst i was angry.
basically thank God for Kenya's baby and strong will to survive in spite of the fakers.
My gosh, SirJon, kunle, Davidylan, i take my hats off to u guys.They way you guys calmly but firmly proved your obvious(to normal sane people) points.
If only most Nigerians are like this, i'e refusing to turn a blind eye to blatant evil or wrong doing, standing up for good regardless and also will to speak up, i've no doubt we'll not only be the most populous county, we'll be the most blessed and prosperous too.
instead, we get blind followers, both leaders of the country and people that work under them and churches with blind flipping followers, with no capability of engaging their own minds but instead are like poppets controlled at will by these unruly supposed pastors.
Well i read it all and you guys were so awesome, you won't believe. Sir John, your wife is one lucky lady. Do you ever lose your temper even? many times you were so calm..... Wow!

Thanks @ nnenneigbo

Pastor Kun: Good to have you back bro, I am sorry I couldn't make it for your wedding. Glad it went well + congrats!

Thanks Bro

TruEvangel: @SirJohn

I attended CE Healing School this year 2013 Randburg SA and have been a member since 2007. I joined nairaland to say thank you publicly!

I was disturbed for about 4 months after HS because of the things I saw at the HL, I spoke to my friends none believed me. I also spoke to some of the students I was with, though they admitted seeing people who were walking put on wheelchairs but they couldn't bring themselves to the fact that this may be a scam.

I stopped going to church and began to research on the net and reread some of the books I had of the great faith healers of yesteryears... I didn't want to believe the facts... many who had serious cases were made to fail. When I read your story I then knew that the devil wasn't playing with my mind but Chris was.

So thank you sir for your story it saved me months of stressing and crying... Chris has not change he still does it the same way you outlined in 2008.

In my reading of the bible now I also found out that Chris's doctrine is completely wrong, chances are the things that he's right about roman Catholicism also had them right.

love you sir!

Thank you @TruEvangel, I sincerely appreciate your feedback.
When I wrote the op in November 2008, they thought I was a joker, some thought I was paid to write, others thought I cooked up a lie to dent Chris' image.
Five years down the line, more and more people are confirming every single detail.
Thanks once more

Kenyan 28: I said I would come back here with good news, a negative report, and here I am with one, at least for my daughter who is close to 2 years now. Medication has worked on her and I thank God for this perfect gift of mine from heaven. In fact since May she was well with no virus detected in her blood and confirmed many other times. Glory to God. Am working on mine now and.....again some day al have good news. For those who doubt, check on how oxygen works in the body!

Happy New Year to you All!
I've been away from NL for a while now because I had to take time off to plan for my wedding.
I wedded last month and to the glory of God it was a huge success.

@Kenyan28, I'm so glad to hear about your daughters improved health. I remember calling you sometime in September during the terrorist attack in Nairobi to make sure you were okay; it was then you told me the good news about your daughter.
I'm also glad you took the advice to explore every possible medical option at your disposal and trust God as medical science is still God's hand at work on earth.

Thanks for the goodwill messages you sent me during my wedding, I sincerely appreciate.

[quote author=Wizard_of_Oz]that's highly unlikely my friend..[/quote]Okay then thanks, was only trying to help and to do so I need to know from exactly where you tried using the service, verify if it is peculiar to your location and even find out if there is a 3G cell serving that location and what capacity it is. If there is none it becomes an issue to be sorted out with the planners, if there is one then we may be dealing with a capacity issue or some faults of some sort.
Bros I've been around here for a while I no be small pikin for NL so its up to you to give it a shot.

[quote author=Wizard_of_Oz]lekki[/quote]can you email me your mobile number, need to get more details from you.
Thanks
(my email is in my signature)

[quote author=Wizard_of_Oz]@sirJohn

my posts are right there, u cn scroll up n address..
Happy reading..[/quote]And I am asking again, where exactly are you?

[quote author=Wizard_of_Oz]my issue is with Mtn's fraudulent business strategy.. Can you address that?[/quote]@Wizard_of_Oz,
Can you sincerely answer my question? I understand how you feel but its not always what you think. Every service provider at some point have issues and it is feedback from customers that can help them sort things out.

You must understand that theres so much money in telecoms that you dont need fraud to make profit, how much more for a provider that has over 40% of market share in one country.
The industry is still emerging in this part of the world, none of the providers have got it right for now but they are all making effort; the challenges in this country are peculiar and it takes time to deliver that optimum experience.

Bottom line my guy, let me know your actual issues, I'll try my best to address it