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Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 8:48am On Oct 30, 2012
Kenyan 28: Lets talk here on this forumn, I do not want phone calls nor texts again from any member of CE.
Kenyan 28: AM ONE UNSTOPABLE WOMAN AND NOBODY CAN HOLD ME FROM SPEAKING THE TRUTH.I HAVE NOT FOUND TIME TO E-MAIL U, BUT TODAY, I WILL.
@Kenyan28, you are now sounding like the courageous woman I expect...
My advice is, keep your hopes high; God is alive!
Don't also be reluctant to explore medical options as they are also part of Gods outstretched arm of healing in our time.
God ordained medical science and is not against it; Healing through medical science is also healing from God because all knowledge belongs to him.
Will be waiting patiently for your email!
God Bless You!
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 8:49pm On Oct 29, 2012
Now here's a comment I posted way back in 2008, I'm going to call some of them back just so that you know that I had warned about this

[quote author=SirJohn,5:31am On Nov 16, 2008]It is very true that so many people who were proclaimed 'healed' at the healing school later die of the same ailments. Of course Pastor Chris would want to have us believe that they died of unbelief or that they did not have enough faith to sustain their healing. But were these people ever healed in the first place?

Given the right conditions (usually in a suggestible state), the human brain has the ability to produce a certain substance known as endorphins, the endorphins has anaesthetic ability 200 times that of morphine. it is the body's answer to pain, infact it is the body's self healing power. strong belief in the ability of anything to produce healing effect triggers the release of this substance. This is also known as the power of 'mind over matter', and has been applied by psychic healers over the years. That is why only people with sicknesses that manifest pain ever seem to get 'healed' at the healing school; the blind do not receive siight nor does the lame walk.

This phenomenon is applied in drug testing and is known as the 'placebo effect'. let me explain briefly: to test a new painkiller pill or instance, two groups of people (with real cases of pain) are given a dose of the pill. one group is given the real painkiller pill while the other group is given another pill (placebo) which has no therapeutic effect (inert) but looks exaclty like the real pill. The two groups are actually made to believe they are taking the same pills. research result from this kind of experiment have revealed that over 30% of the people administered with the 'placebo' experience the same level of pain relief as the people who took the real pill.

This 'mind over matter' phenomenon is what gives this folks temporary symptomatic relief from these conditions, note that I said symptomatic this is because the underlying cause of the ailment is never healed, only symptoms attached to the real conditions are suspended for a while. This explains why these people later die or become worse.[/quote]
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 5:28pm On Oct 29, 2012
Kenyan 28: Let me tell u again @Joagbaje, at the healing school, I got to know a white woman from Capetown who had breast cancer,she was healed at the same time but less than a year later,she died of the same.Infact she went back to the healing school with her medical report to testify. Her friend called me about the death. Our phones were full of messages of testimonies between her and I before she died. She was very strong in faith and encouraged me every other day.Her demise shocked me. Another woman from Ghana died too when she had already healed and doctors couldnt find the cancer.
Another one from Norway died of breast cancer later when her daughter who visited me in Kenya informed me that doctors were shocked that the cancer had disapeared. Another lady from Kenya died 2 months after we left the healing school,how?, I do not know.

I do not want to live in fear of I might loose the miracle (get the sickness back) for God's healing is true and permanent.
Well, what can I say... its just so sad this has turned out this way but I still thank God for a medium like this, how would we have ever confirmed the things that I and so many others continually shouted on this thread for about four years now.

What saddens me more is the life of this innocent child that is now in danger and possibly the husband whose condition is yet to be known.

@Kenyan28 if you will listen to me please do, maybe you were too excited and basking in the placebo effect that you didn't read some of my posts; I have talked on many occasions about cases like this. It is not just common with Christ Embassy alone but most other faith healing group you can imagine.
There is no point going back and forth on this matter, you chose who you wanted to believe even in the face of clear warnings you even called me names. You have yet another chance to choose who to listen to and nobody on this forum will force you.

I am here to tell you one more time that they do not have the answer to your situation, believe me! they will try every means to keep you from talking till you go the way others have gone then there will be nobody to tell the story.

@davidylan has made some vital points, all of which has been discussed earlier on this very thread so the choice at the end of the day is yours.

I'm still waiting for your email though I know joagbaje may have discouraged you from writing me but its okay, I'm still here by Gods grace and will be waiting.

God bless you
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 6:57am On Oct 27, 2012
Joagbaje: Sirjohn we shOuld be careful how we go about things like this so that we don't. Shatter someone's faith . Let's lay aside our biases.

If someone who was diagnosed with HIV got ministered to and all symptoms stopped , not only that , the person went back to the.same hospital where she was diagnosed and medically tested negative . That must be a miracle .and for more than one year or more the person enjoyed sound health , that must be a miracle .The person eventually got married , and got pregnant. And after 9months gave birth to a sound healthy baby that must be a miracle .

Now whatever the case now that became a challenge to the health or so is attack of the enemy . You can't say she wasn't healed . That attack. Can still be death with .in the atmosphere of faith But such a one is sourounded with words of unbelief instead of helping her faith , we may kill that miracle . Such challenge may come to some folks . It can be death with permanently . It's called counter attack . There are several things which an cause it in some people. Jesus explained one of such in Matt 12:43-45
Jo, read my post, I haven't said anything yet and I was not talking to you.
I said clearly that I would like to hear the full story first because for all we know, we may not have been told some truth initially. If you're talking about Jesus, I'd like you to give me just one instance with Jesus where a completely healed person relapsed after getting healed.
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 8:15pm On Oct 26, 2012
Kenyan 28: U cant be more right, something serious is happening to me. With all manner of regrets, am looking for true and real God's intervention. Continue praying for me for I badly need prayers.
Thanks for the genuine wishes. With time and when av gained enof strength, al definately reveal what am going through.
I believe the far u have known me though on internet, I dont lie.
Kenyan 28: If u ever told me, am sorry I never listened.I'm going through a very difficult time in life.What a waste of time and money?!

I'm yet to be explained to why the healing is not permanent.
Kenyan 28: My story is long affecting my entire family, al talk about it later like I promised.
Hello Kenyan 28,
Let me start by saying that I am not surprised at all at your recent comments, this is not new to me but I'll spare you the pain of recalling the several warnings on this thread.

I must also commend your courage for coming back here to tell the truth no matter how painful it feels.
I have not heard the whole story so I will refrain from making any hasty comments;but this I must say, you owe the world your story.

Don't even bother about getting any explanation from the CE folks because their response is very obvious, they'll certainly say you didn't have enough faith to keep your healing.

Finally, I would appreciate if you can inbox me at sirjohn24@yahoo.com, I would really love to speak with you personally. I'll be looking forward to hearing from you.
God bless you
PhonesRe: MTN Introduces New Call Tariffs by SirJohn(m): 1:32pm On Aug 23, 2012
aze: Since dem introduce this regressive scheme see wetin people for CALABAR dey pass through.

1. Dropped Calls

2. Person wey una talk naw, because of the Dropped Calls palava u try to get the persom, MTN GO TELL U ''Not Available At The Moment''


3. Then U try AGAIN and AGAIN. Guess What? The tin no go gree connect AGAIN. ''Network Failure'' message go appear.

4. When U come Finally Connect, U No Go Hear The Other Party.

all this na credit wey dey burn for EmptyHEAD network. Do ur maths.
MTN is currently carrying out upgrade/modernization across their network starting from Enugu, asaba, Warri, cross river... some other cities to join soon. this will only be for a while! hang in there
CelebritiesRe: Dbanj Posing With A Cheetah (pix) by SirJohn(m): 3:09am On Aug 14, 2012
This is no big deal, I did more than that during my last vacation November last year:

SportsRe: No Respect For Carl Lewis - Usain Bolt by SirJohn(m): 12:05am On Aug 11, 2012
Na winsh na him dey know winsh!
HealthRe: The Best Dental Clinic In Ikeja (lagos Mainland)? by SirJohn(m): 11:23pm On Aug 07, 2012
Nene is good, had a tooth extraction there in 2007 and was impressed with equipment and expertise.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Would You Go To This Zoo? (pics) by SirJohn(m):
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Nairaland GeneralRe: Would You Go To This Zoo? (pics) by SirJohn(m): 4:24pm On Jul 27, 2012
Pimples: Bros I refuse to believe....
That your own be like teddy Bear...
They're not teddy bears they're so real...that's Lion and Ryno park in SA, you need to see oyinbo taking pictures of me cos they couldn't enter the place. I felt like one NATGEO freak that day grin
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Car TalkRe: Fastest Speed You Have Ever Driven: Car, Place, Time? by SirJohn(m): 10:08am On Jul 25, 2012
Mr moderator, this shouldn't be on the front page; a lot of what I have read is simply suicidal. Driving on Nigerian roads at 160,170,200,220,240Km/H is not worth celebrating at all; at such speeds, you have little or no thinking distance and your stopping distance too is short in the event of an emergency.
I have done a couple of dangerous speeds as well but wont talk about it in an open forum with lots of hot blooded youngsters... nah!
PoliticsRe: Phcn On Partial Strike? Is Your Area In Darkness? by SirJohn(m): 1:24pm On Jul 22, 2012
Since the begining of this year, we've been on load shedding in the ratio of two days on one day off; but strangely this morning, we're yet to get back power after staying throughout yesterday without power.
I have long quit looking up to the government to provide my basics, for electricity, I have an automatic 15kva lister gen, one 3kva gasoline gen and a 3.5 kva inverter with battery string to power the whole house including refrigerator for 3days of power outage; I honestly don't know what if feels or looks like to stay in darkness.
Its so sad though undecided
PoliticsRe: Court Fines NBC N60m For Selling Contaminated Drink by SirJohn(m): 11:45am On Jul 19, 2012
berem: Coke and cockroach! What a combination!
and to think that they both have same colour, hmmm! maybe thats part of the ingredient; it probably didnt blend well wink
PoliticsRe: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by SirJohn(m): 12:12pm On Jul 16, 2012
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PoliticsRe: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by SirJohn(m): 12:01pm On Jul 16, 2012
[quote author=one.east]Thats the point am trying to make. Nkwo is my home town and my mom is from Isikwe-Achi, do you know that the road from Oji River to Achi is highly inaccessible and unmotorable. Infact I couldn't even travel in my car to Achi to see my maternal home because of bad road. Until we have a governor in Enugu state that will develop the rural areas enugu state will continue to be 75% rural and poor.[/quote]I disagree with the bolded and here are my reasons: in 2009 when I came to this city, yes Oji river - Achi road was very bad and 'unmotorable', but right now, a large portion of that road has been fixed and work is still ongoing on that road. I don't think you've been there in the last 12 months, I can post pictures to prove you wrong you know.
PoliticsRe: Enugu Assembly Passes Bill Banning Okada by SirJohn(m): 6:00pm On Jul 04, 2012
In as much as I know that this decision by Gov. Chime will put a lot of youths out of their only means of livelihood, I equally welcome the development.
Enugu metropolis is not such a difficult place to navigate without the okada, I think people should embrace the other means of transportation in the state which is readily available.
I personally became increasingly concerned at the rate of violent crimes that was beginning to rear its ugly head in the peaceful city and a large percentage were done using 'okadas'; I am 100% with the state on this one as the value for life is priority over anything else.
Abia state capital did it and today people have gotten used to it, Enugu has a far better transport system and road network than Umuahia so I don't see why it should be a problem.
Been out of town for a while now, cant wait to see how the town will look with this new development.
Christianity EtcRe: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by SirJohn(m): 9:22am On May 06, 2012
Way to go @Pastor Kun, Goshen360, nuclearboy and russkelly!
Christianity EtcRe: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by SirJohn(m): 3:06am On May 06, 2012
I'm loving this! front row seat with lots of popcorn to munch on cheesy
AutosRe: I've Just Been Inspired..2004 Toyota 4Runner LIMITED Edition from Inspired Autos by SirJohn(op): 7:44am On Apr 20, 2012
ZUBY77: Great. We should campaign for a sub section to be opened for Inspired_M under auto section then. That is exactly what a white man would do to promote his brother, not his customers running around praising him as if all his transactions were ever smooth.
I dont understand why you have a problem with his customers praising him... Why do you have to take panadol for another mans headache??
AutosRe: I've Just Been Inspired..2004 Toyota 4Runner LIMITED Edition from Inspired Autos by SirJohn(op): 6:29am On Apr 19, 2012
[quote author=inspired_m]Bros You Get Mind O !!! are those Lions DEAD ? shocked shocked shocked shocked[/quote]Nahh! they're all alive but resting, I've always wanted to get close to lions but my initial intention was to play with the cubs...when I saw these ones, I decided to take a chance and go in with them. My big moment was seeing all them white tourists filming me and taking pictures, it made me feel like one explorer. he he!
AutosRe: I've Just Been Inspired..2004 Toyota 4Runner LIMITED Edition from Inspired Autos by SirJohn(op): 8:16pm On Apr 18, 2012
[quote author=inspired_m]SirJOHN, I didnt Take time to View Your Profile Until Today, Is this Really You With Those LIONS ? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked[/quote]yeah, thats me with the lions... Who says only Daniel could do it. Lol!
AutosI've Just Been Inspired..2004 Toyota 4Runner LIMITED Edition from Inspired Autos by SirJohn(op): 7:16pm On Apr 18, 2012
To think that I have never met this fellow makes it all the more interesting as he has successfully landed my 2004 Toyota 4runner Limited 4WD.
A couple of months back, I decided to buy a ride but needed someone to help me pre-order one from the US, well since I've been on nairaland for a while now (since 2007)I decided to go to the Autos section to scout for a reputable car dealer. My search led me to inspired m, I gave him a call and I was immediately inspired.
All transactions from then till the ride arrived were consummated via mobile phone only. I paid just less than 50% of the total cost of landing the car and he did the rest till the car was fully cleared.
Its really good to know that you can still trust people with your hard earned money even when they are faceless.
Thanks a million inspired m.
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 9:19pm On Apr 13, 2012
Pastor Kun: Bros how have you been? Hope all is well at your end.
Bros I dey o, I'm good... and you?
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by SirJohn(op): 2:10pm On Apr 11, 2012
ugostar63: BE CAREFUL HOW YOU CRITICIZE THE GREAT MAN OF GOD PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME. GOD WILL JUDGE YOU FOR SLANDER AND YOU MIGHT END UP IN HELL. DON'T FORGET WHAT HAPPENED TO APOSTLE PAUL WHEN HE WAS PROSECUTING CHRISTIANS IN JERUSALEM, IT WAS OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF THAT CONFRONTED HIM AND ASKED HIM WHY HE WAS PROSECUTING HIM, YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY. GOD SAID, TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED AND DO MY PROPHET NO HARM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF GOD ON EARTH. I HAVE BEEN TO THE HEALING SCHOOL IN SOUTH AFRICA AND GOD IS USING PASTOR CHRIS MIGHTILY. STOP STOP GO AND BUILD YOUR FAITH, PRAY AND ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO THE BODY OF CHRIST. WATCH YOUR TONGUE, I THINK YOU HAVE EVIL SPIRIT IN YOU AND YOU SHOULD GO FOR DELIVERANCE.[/col[color=#000099][/color]
Its been three years and five months since my initial post and I still stand by every single claim.
Nairaland GeneralRe: "Nairaland 2.0" Is Live! Any Questions Or Feedback? by SirJohn(m): 10:49am On Apr 01, 2012
naptu2: What just happenedhuh The colours are awful! Is this an April fool's joke? The contrast! The contrast! The contrast!
Definitely an April fools stunt, Seun cant be this insane... This is hilarious!! grin grin grin
Nairaland GeneralRe: "Nairaland 2.0" Is Live! Any Questions Or Feedback? by SirJohn(m): 8:25am On Mar 11, 2012
Hmm!! Tried it out first on my laptop but didn't like the experience. I'm posting from my mobile and I think I like the mobile view except that some features like previewing posts have been removed
Christianity EtcRe: Prosperity Pastor Eddie Long Enthroned As “king’ During Church Service by SirJohn(m): 12:17am On Feb 13, 2012
mabell:
Haba! that was nota real crowning or 'enthroning' it was an example,he was used as an example shikena
Joagbaje:
I'm watching , how some people can make a mountain out of mole hill. What I saw there was just illustrations and dramatization
SMH!! huh
PropertiesRe: Building A Large Duplex In Enugu by SirJohn(m): 7:06pm On Jan 07, 2012
erico2k2:
nah 9th mile is even harder, there is a place in Enugu that has normal soil,I have 4gotten whats its called, there are even wells there, my Uni days was in Enugu state my mate lived in that area I have 4gotten its name damn lol now as regards the inbalaance of the area bringging in a bulldozer+grader would have innitially solved this problem, you did not think about it properly regarding the issue of lose soil, you should have considered mesurring and collecting data of the lowest point of the plot that way you dig to that level, xtra sand you get would be used to fill in and the foundation would have started at the lowest point ie 4-6ft downwards from that lowest point and the emerging sand used to refill it to the formal level
On the contrary, 9th mile (Udi area) is known for water, even the state has a water reservoir there; again, companies that require water as their main raw material (coca-cola, pepsi, nigeiria brewries, guiness) all have production plants and depos at 9th mile
PoliticsRe: Ethnic Clashes In Ebonyi, Another Slaughter! by SirJohn(m): 12:30am On Jan 01, 2012
God help us,  I was caught in the middle of this fight in 2010, heres my story:

SirJohn:
MY TESTIMONY (SNATCHED FROM THE FANGS OF DEATH)

It was nearly midday on Friday the 19th of February 2010, I set out on a journey along with my driver and a contractor from Enugu to Ebonyi state via the Enugu-Abakaliki expressway. It was just like every other day; nice sunny and bright weather, and all that filled my thoughts was how to complete my mission in Ebontyi state and head back to base. We cruised down the expressway completely oblivious of what lay ahead of us.

The journey from Enugu to Abakaliki is about one hour thirty minutes (1hr30mins) and just thirty minutes into our journey, we had to stop at a town called nkalagu. There were no vehicles coming from the opposite direction and all vehicles going in our direction had all stopped, in fact, there was a sea of vehicles all around. Just as I was about to figure out why all the vehicles had stopped going any further, I looked and saw what seemed like a mass exodus: people fleeing from their community on foot carrying their belongings on their head. Men, women, children, several hundreds of them all looking petrified.

At this point I came out of the vehicle to find out what exactly was going on, I inquired from a bus driver who told me that there has been an ongoing communal clash between two clans and that it had taken a deadly dimension. They said armed youths and militants have been unleashing terror on unsuspecting innocent passersby., infact several had been killed.

I got back into the vehicle and told my driver to turn back since it was dangerous to go any further. just as he was about to do that, two police armored personnel carriers (APC) and five white Toyota hilux trucks fully loaded with armed mobile policemen came from the opposite direction (where we were initially headed) and told everyone to follow them that there was no cause for alarm.
One of the APC's then turned and headed for Abakaliki, some of the commercial bus drivers happily followed it. A little moment after we decided to start heading back to Enugu, I changed my mind and asked my driver to follow the second APC which was just about turning as well to join the first one.

We turned back quick enough to be just immediately behind the APC and also just behind us were the five Toyota hilux trucks with mobile policemen, we were in a white Mitsubishi L200 truck which was similar to what the policemen had so it looked like a police convoy.
When we got to the trouble zone, I looked in amazement as one of the buses which followed the first APC had been attacked from behind by the armed militants just before we got there; right then I knew something was wrong.

we continued moving until we were approached by a 911 lorry, the lorry conductor jumped down from the lorry and tried to signal the APC in front of us to stop, at the same time, he was pointing into the bush. Almost immediately, about fifteen to twenty armed fierce looking guys came out of the bush all armed with AK 47 rifles, shotguns, cutlasses and charms. They wanted to barricade the road but stopped and all stood fearlessly by the side of the road; at this time, the APC in front of us stopped and so did every other vehicle behind us. Everywhere became as quiet as a graveyard for about fifteen seconds, then all of a sudden, one mobile policeman behind us opened fire (I guess at the gunmen). What followed is difficult for me to describe, in fact, the guardian newspaper put it this way:

"So ferocious was the fight on one particular day, that the works minister, Alhaji Hassan Lawal and his entourage were forced to abort their planned visit and run back to Enugu as the sound of assault rifles reverberated and billows smoke rose into the skies from the fighting"

My brethren, I was in the midst of this ferocious battle; the gunmen opened fire at us and all I heard was rat tat tat tat! I dont know how my driver maneuvered and escaped the scene but the pictures below tell what happened thereafter.

https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5180/5529605082_be874e7ba8.jpghttps://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5529604558_79ba27f113.jpg

The APC in front of me (shown in the picture by the left) was seriously damaged, the five Toyota hilux trucks behind me were completely burnt, several policemen and civilians were killed on the spot. . . it could have been me but I was pulled out of the midst of it all.
Praise God!!

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