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Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 8:56pm On Oct 16, 2006

@Mamaput

Any way house slaves also did not have it easy.
They were raped by massa and massa JR.
And they had to work end less hours,

You are definitely right about this, there is no denying that.

We were all doing bad but to some of us, thought we were doing better than others and some of us thought that the ones in the house was doing better than the ones in the field, when the fact is, all of us on the plantation were slaves, just like all of us are black. The ones who thought they were comfortable didn't want their situation to worsen. I am not mad at the house negroe, his/hers reactions was based on what he knew and what he knew was all he knew, you know what I am saying?

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 7:36pm On Oct 16, 2006

@Drusilla

I have one more thing mention.

I am not here to sugar coat anything, I am here to tell the truth. Some people in Nairaland like it when I tell the truth and some people in Nairaland don't like it when I tell the truth. This is house Negro mentality. The house Negro is the one who does not want any trouble that will take him out of the house into the fields. He is the one who identify's with his master more than his master identify's with him, the house Negro. The house Negro will hear the field Negroes planning an escape and he will tell them that they are trouble makers and they are going to cause trouble for everyone else, he really means his self though. In other words, make him have to work even harder than he already works. I feel sorry for the house Negro that he did not believe in his self or his fellow brothers and sisters.

I have been labeled as a trouble maker, someone who goes from thread to thread starting verbal fights. I don't do that, however, what I do is, I do challenge people to look at their self. I say, It is not like I am in your face, if you want to ignore me, you really can, so, why do you respond to me, if I say, or ask something you don't like?

To me the very fact that people direct comments towards me, or to me when they do not agree with me, and I am not in their face, say's something. I will leave what it say's up to those people and their experience of me.

My opinion is, the ones who don't like the truth, live in a particular comfort zone. They don't want me trying to mess with their cozy comfort zone. When, if they were that secure with their comfort, they would not respond that clearly shows they have been affected. If they are affected, they must not be that comfortable.

Example, I have seen many people in Nairaland that wear two faces, when I see this, I call them on it. It is better for them to hear it from me than for them not to hear it from so called friends or people who are afraid to tell them. Or, it is better for them to hear from me before someone tells them to their face and really embarrasses them.

925, I wasn't going to bring this up but sense you see it as okay to bring up something old, you have open the doors for me to bring up something much more interesting. I think your real problem with my approach is, I rattle the feathers of peoples so called comfort zone. For a while, you have been in Nairaland longer than I but that does not matter. I think you have gotten comfortable with people not responding to you intelligently or people letting you have your way because of your strong headness. Me, I am not here to help you keep up your comfortable program, I am here to be me and being me means being honest with my people. If you are doing something I see as contradicting or hypocritical, I am going to call you on it. If you respond, that is good and if you don't respond, that is okay because I still gave you something to think about.

I didn't like it when 925 created a thread which pretty much insulted Nigerian women, black women. He was asking them were they "stupid?" or were the just blind? something to that affect, not verbatim. Any way, he said that these women sit up here and try their best to be white and then they wonder why a black man just goes for the real deal, a white woman. Why settle for the fake white woman when you can get the real one? Is what he basically said in this topic. I was shocked! My impression was, how dare he, who does he thinks he is? He has a lot of damn nerve telling black women this shyt, especially with the position he is in. If he does not want to be questioned, he should not even touch that subject. How is he helping black women to love their blackness and be their self? To me for him to say what he said in such a condescending tone, that is a let down. The Irony of the whole thing is, we all know that 925 has a white wife, which really puts him in the situation to be questioned about his choices if he is going to sit up there and say what he was saying to those black women. What was he trying to justify? That was my feeling.

So, me being me of course, I asked him a question. I knew his response would be a vague one. He said something about being with the people you love. I asked him "925 was that your reason for getting you a white woman?" I said some other stuff but my main point was that question. Needless to say, he did not respond to my question. I think he did not like the fact that a woman had the nerve to put him on the spot. This goes to show you all, that if you begin to bump your gums with a tone that suggest that you have not analyzed your self, yet you analyze others, that will be one you. If I see something wrong, I am going to call you on it. I believe that is the problem 925 has with me.

I'm not trying to start something but we black people need to keep it real with each other, I am not here to help justify what we do to each other. If we would be honest with each other, CA's would not be lying to AA men and women to assist them in their citizenship, giving CA's a bad label. Also, AA's would not be feeling sorry for their self that they got duped, when all the signs were there. We are all to blame. I am not here to ease peoples consciousness. There are a lot of questions we all need to ask our self and we need to let our negative ego's go. That negative ego being, it is all about me and I will do what it takes to show that I am right. If your motive is to be true, you will admit your faults, not keep lying or convincing your self.

PS, I know I'm not going to get any slack for this but I am ready. If i don't get any slack, that will be good cheesy

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 5:59pm On Oct 16, 2006

@Drusilla

Continental Africans come to America, with great hope and love and then are treated like slobs by AA and it hurts them but being that they are just Nigga's who speak a different language, they began to do as any Nigga in the Ghetto would: they begin to front. To play it off. To represent.

I don't think they were all treated that way but I am sure that some of them were and it was a great disappointment but it can't be any different from the AA's who were used by their C/African brothers and sisters to gain papers or to become financially duped by them. None of us have been being honest with each other so, both AA's and Continent born Africans are both to blame for them not helping each other and treating each other as slobs. AA's didn't get the name Akata from Nigerians for nothing and Africans from the continent did not get the name Coffa from AA's for nothing. We do each other wrong and we are both wrong. Not one is more innocent than the other or has suffered more than the other. That's the truth, so let's not place all blame on one group, we are all responsible and we need to stop treating each other as if we are our own worst enemy.

To me it seems as if you believe their bullshit talk. That shows that you really do think of them as US and THEM.

I believe that some of them believe their bullshit talk but no, I don't believe them as if they are a separate entity from me as a whole in terms of black people. It is not that I believe them, but I can't take the chances on someone else believing them. For 1 Ignorant black person there 2 million other ignorance. When a Nairalander says something to me that is not true, I can't ignore them because that would mean that I my self believe that there is some flaw in what I teach. It may very well be a flaw but if it is, I will still respond and say my bad. My point is, my sincerity shows in my ability to point out very important facts and for those people who observe they look for me to do that. You would be suprised at how many Instant Messages and emails I get from Nairalanders that observe what I am telling people. These people are Nairlanaders who want to say what I am saying but can't put it the way that I put it so they depend on me to do it. For those people, I feel it is my duty not to let them down. As far as them and us, if you are referring to me seeing Africans in Nairalanders as them and me as us, you will need to explain more in depth of how I do that. Outside of Nairaland I have many Nigeiran friends that I went to school with or met through other people as a matter a fact, I have African friends born on the continent who come from Ghana and Mali. I couldn't possibly see them as not us. It is my wonderful relationships with them which as brought me into to Nairaland, my friend who is Igbo was the one who introduced me to this site. I don't know what you are talking about.

Others here are not even that far along more at a kindergarden stage of white worship and that is whom you will most likely argue with

Now I agree with this and to be truthful, I really believe and know that this is the only problem and I prepeared my self for that before I even signed up to become a memeber of nairaland. I just go ahead and drop my seeds. One of the good things about planting a seed or dropping seeds is, even if the roots are already damaged from previous brain wash, the good thing about damaged roots is, those roots can be pulled out. Once those roots are pulled out a spiritual cleansing takes palce, the spiritual cleansing is symbolic to water which makes the now fertile grounds give life to the seed that was dropped. That is why although I know I wil be rejected by some, I have hope that some day they will wake up, so I keep doing what I do.

Some used to get mad at me because I refused to get into negativity about AA. I just report good things when they say negative things. I always link the good things and it shuts their mouth usually

Yes, I see your point here. When they say bad things about AA if they are right, I don't deny it but I will remind them that not all AA's are like that and then I try to get them to see how some of them became that way. At the same time though, I also parallel some of the things that are not that nice which takes place in Africa are the same as what AA's do, so the bottom line is we are all black and we have all been affected by whitey which has contributed to some of our negative behavior. The thing is, no one black group of people is better than the other black group, and we are wasting our time pointing fingers, we are acting like children going back and fourth saying who is better and who is not when we all are doing so bad that even If AA's did want to go back to Africa, we would not be doing any better there than we are doing here so what is the use in promoting black unification? Especially when you have Africans who are fleeing Africa as well.

I love these Black people just like I love Black American People.

I love a all black people Drusilla. cheesy

Drusilla, on more thing, what exactly is this supposed to mean?

Do yourself a favor, don't waste my time. I am not Sista.

Just kidding, you don't have to answer that.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 5:55pm On Oct 16, 2006

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Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 5:39pm On Oct 16, 2006

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Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 7:04am On Oct 16, 2006

@Drusilla, with love

Drusilla, I love you to death but his isn't fare, it is enough the other people in here speak about me as if I am not here but I do not expect this from you. In the past when I felt like your approach wasn't agreeable to me, I came to you about that. I didn't speak of you as if you to someone else as if you were some third person character in a book. I know some Nairalanders are going to see this as some battle between you and I but please don't give them what they want. when you speak of me, speak of me as if you are speaking to me not speaking of me, please, do that for me as I would do the same for you.

Also, I respect yours and 925s opinion about my approach.

If you read back, you will see that this whole discussion began to go down hill when Babiosisi was persistent in saying bad things about AA people.She recanted the bad things that she said because Uju sided with me saying that she understood me more so than anyone. But, Babosis was not for real when she recanted because later on she came back in and said something about AA people that was really out of this world, I can give you the link so you can see for your self. I defended AA people and I spoke of why AA people do certain things. I was being accused of making up excuses for black people and my excuse was do to not liking white people Nairalanders said. Me not liking white people was twisted into hatred of white people. After being accused of hatred so much, I got the impression really quick that I was damned if I did, and damned if I didn't. So, let's show Nairlanders what hate really is. I decided to show people what hate is by producing a satire with the reverse of what white people do and have done, only in the form of black people now being the oppressor, you see how that was twisted even though I had a smiley face at the end? So, I said all of that to say this, in this discussion, how was my approach wrong in any way? Please explain that Drusilla? As I am willing to change when I can see where my mistake was. Right now, I'm not seeing it.

Also, I have seen many discussions you and 925 have been in that a conversation have turned into personal attacks on both sides. So I am not getting this. You said so your self that some Nairalanders consoled a white man who said he wanted Nigerians dead. That tells me and should tell you that anything you, I or 925 has to say is going to make those same people who consoled the white man have problem with each one of us who speak against whitey. So please help me with explaining to me, what approach do you thing is better for me to take if any?

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 4:57am On Oct 16, 2006

@925

What?, do you expect me to come and be exchanging name callings like you people are doing here?

People were already arguing when you came to make your speaech about "not hating all white people" in fact, that speech you made was because the thread had already gone out of whack. When you made your speech, no one responded to you calling you names and when I responded to you, I didn't call you any names. I'm not getting you at this point, where was the name calling towards you?

, secondly am not against your ideas, but the unnecessary brutality is what I frown about, thirdly when a thread is in the low I don't consider it necessary to get involved, cause I do think that civility should be maintained at any level of arguments, encroaching people is not my thing.

But, you still chose to approach this thread when it was in it's low stages. In fact, the thread is still in it's low stages. As black people we cannot run from each other when we feel that we can't take the heat of each other. Weather we believe it or not, that is the psychology of a person who has fallen into the sepratism syndrome. Even if you had to take a break, when you came back to respond to Drusilla and you made comments about me, you should have shared your issues of me with me before sharing your issues of me with her. You even tried to bring up some old stuff between Drusilla and I where I told her I had my own teaching method. That was all water under the bridge and you tried to make her remember that as something negative she should look out for in terms of me. Drusilla and I may have had our minor past disagreements with each other but the love we share for black people over comes that petty stuff.

My point is when I asked you to explain to me why you felt it was in order to give your speech after I made my hate whitey satirical? You didn't get my satirical and you assumed that I was saying that I hate white people as a whole. I don't like people to make an unclear assumptions about me. Although I know people in nairaland will do that, I kind of hoped that you were different, able to put aside any differences we had and make a clear conscious judgment of me. Although you and I don't agree on some things, that the one thing we do agree on (the love for black people) would allow you to make clear judgments about me. I really wish you would go back to my hate whitey satirical and see what it was I was doing. Read that entire post, don't start at the satirical it self read that entire post. Read it from a subjective mind perspective, you will see what was going on, then get back to me and tell me what you saw. If you have any questions, just ask me but please don't assume anything. Here is the link.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=23185.msg648111#msg648111

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 11:38pm On Oct 15, 2006

@925

do you remember the person that posted this quote above to you in one of your threads, I think your albino thread [check it out], you see this is why is not good for people to jump into people's live and start talking without knowing a thing like our sister sista did, when my wife created a thread about ''black inventors'' from your topic ''Don't thank a white man, thank a black man''

I guess this may have been an on running sentence. If so, I now see what you were saying.

Why didn't you bother to respond to the other post I left for you?

You seem to be running from me and I don't think it has anything to do with my method. You had no problem with my method when you were responding to my topic "all black people descend from Africa"

When I say something that does not attract you, you run.

Am I one of those disobedient black woman, who has a big mouth and does not no when to shut up when she is supposed to? Maybe so, because I see you having many back and fourth debates with men who disagree with you or say's things you don't agree with but with a woman like me, you don't get into it because your excuse is, I am personally attacking you. That's a good one.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 10:29pm On Oct 15, 2006

@925

do you remember the person that posted this quote above to you in one of your threads, I think your albino thread [check it out], you see this is why is not good for people to jump into people's live and start talking without knowing a thing like our sister sista did, when my wife created a thread about ''black inventors'' from your topic ''Don't thank a white man, thank a black man''

You are fasly accusing me, I never joined that discussion your wife created. I don't know what you are talking about, you are going to have to provide proof before you continue to accuse me of this.

I am Innocent until proven guilty and if part of your perception of me is built upon what you think you know, your entire perception is wrong.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 9:47pm On Oct 15, 2006

@925

What Sista should have known before attacking me is if somebody with a family setting like mine has views like mine, then I most have a very strong character

I have a very strong character as well accept I am a woman so what is your point? If you don't like what I say, that is your problem. I call it as I see it and I tell the truth. I can't help it if you took what I said as a personal attack against you. However, as with your situation, I can see how you feel that way. What I said also went for people who think like you in terms of me (Sista). Those people being those who assume me to be hateful of white people based their distorted perception of me.

Is not either what am all about, but Sista was kind of turning the whole thing to a kind of personal attack, so I decided to stay away because I don't want to be part of the problem but part of the solution, you have to agree with me that the way sista is going about the whole thing is wrong,

From my experience with you, you may or may not respond to me but I have to say this for my self. You say that what I do is wrong, I say that what you say is contradicting and hypocritical.

Your above quote has nothing to do with the way you went about responding to my satire of hate against white people. Your perception of what I was doing in that post was based on your having a white wife. You read where I said I hate white people and you didn't bother to read the rest cause all you could think of was your self. If you knew what I was doing, your response would not have been so long in explaining why hating all white people is a bad thing. I asked you to go back and reread the post before falling for the okey doke people were saying about me which was I hate all white people. If you knew me and my character, you would not have wasted your time going for what was being pulled. Don't tell me about needing to know your character if you don't show that you need to know my character. You are the man so I should pay close attention to you but I am a woman who is not worth your responding to because you have already built your perception of me? Pleeeeze. This is hypocritical amongst other things.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 9:28pm On Oct 15, 2006

@Somegirl

It is necessary to see a problem in order to solve it, whether the whites are/were responsible for this problem or not. It won't help to pretend it didn't exist.

This is true but black people fighting each other is the result, the surface of an underlying situation. Let's deal with the source, other wise we will be denying the truth, hence fourth never really knowing how to go about seeking a solution which would be based on knowing the truth first. White people don't want Africans to know the truth, why?

Many people wishing to migrate would like the European countries to change their immigration laws and once they are here they want the same rights as the whites: Equal opportunities, protection from racism, right to vote, etc. And you know what? I think a black person original from Africa who now lives here should get all of the above.

And you should because it was your people who are responsible for Africans who run from Africa seeking refuge any where else but Africa. How is it that those same white people who claimed to be helping Africa by colonization are those same people who do not allow Africans to have rights in Europe? I don't understand, do you? Europeans have rights in Africa but why do Africans not have rights in Europe? Can you explain that?

This is all a result of an underlying concpiracy in my opinion.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 8:54pm On Oct 15, 2006

@Somegirl

I brought it up because it was a thread about a Nigerian inter-tribal relationship and because the Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo are Nigerian ethnicities (or tribes). Just because I would prefer them to be united does not mean that I don't see that SOME of them despise people that are not from their own ethnicity and that some more of them would like to separate from Nigeria. If somebody wants to have an inter-tribal relationship in Nigeria, s/he should be aware that some people might critic him/her, insult him/her or worse for that relationship. Knowing that, s/he can make an informed decision, either to break up or be together with the person s/he loves no matter from which tribe that other person is. Like I said before, I have a Yoruba friend who is married to an Igbo since around 15-20 years. I think it is great when it works out like that!

Thank your for finally answering my question. However, I don't see how making me realize that we fight each other is going to help black people. My point is the source of African people fighting each other is due to white people. That is why I provided you with the link which I don't think you looked at and I gave you an insert from that link to show you what I was talking about. However I don't think you read it because if you did, you would have opened your mind to seeing where I was coming from. I will provide that insert again, here it is.

Proof:

The British practiced indirect rule in Nigeria as they had in much of the rest of their colonial states. The Ibo were early opponents to British rule. However, they took advantage of missionaries to become educated and many converted to Christianity, especially Catholicism. They were then selected by the British to fill low-level civil service and business positions, and military posts. Favoritism by the British led to further conflict with other groups when the Ibo were placed in authority positions in the north and southwest.

Divide and Conquer and Rule in Disguise. If our people could only realize this.

http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/assessment.asp?groupId=47503

Sista, you've said that a white person can't understand blacks and that a white person should not get involved in black people's affairs. Can a black person understand whites and would it be ok for him/her to get involved in white people's affairs?

As a rule, black people don't get into the affairs of white people. Even if white people ask us for our advice, we try to lead them into making their own decisions. History shows that white people have blamed black people for the decisons white people make. It's called the fall guy syndrome.

Modified: Somegirl, I have a sneakin feeling that someone furnished you with the reply you gave to me for why you brought up those fights, it took you long enough to finally tell me why. Did Mamaput help you because I now see that after you responded to me, you said something to her in what looks like some type of European language. In fact, I'm going to copy what you said to mamaput and have it intepreted.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 8:18pm On Oct 15, 2006

@mamaput

I am mixed : too black to be white too white to be black,
And not even my best friends are colour blind.
So manybe i will hate all and love only the mixed race.

Just because you are a mixed child does not mean that your thoughts have to be all mixed up. What you need to do is deal with the truth and the truth shall set you free. The truth is not mixed up.

Look at Drusilla, she is also mixed, but that woman tells the truth and she accepts the truth for what it is, the truth. Because she knows the truth, although she is a mixed woman, she don't let her thoughts become mixed up. You accept her as she is or you don't accept her at all but she is going to tell the truth. She don't dislike her white family members and she don't dislike her black family members but liking your family members has nothing to do with this. The love you have for your family cannot be tampered with if the love is true. Now, the truth can be focused on once your love is straight. The truth is, white people are responsible for what Colored people of the world suffer. That don't mean all white people but all white people do benefit from being white. I don't know if you understand this but this is all I can say about this matter.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 8:05pm On Oct 15, 2006

@ Somegirl

Should you not know the motivation behind your post better than me?

I know my motives behind why I said what I said but I'm not going to tell you what my motives were if my telling you is the only way you will tell me why you brought up the fights between the Yuroba, Igbo and the Hausa?

You see, to me, you being a white person, you have no excuse for bringing that up unless you are trying to keep black people as seeing each other as their own worst enemy. You love or like black people and you consider them as human yet, you let little ole me provoke you to mention that black people fight each other? Everytime I ask you why you brought up the fights between the Igbo, Yuroba and the Hausa, you come back is to ask me why did I bring up white people? So, you brought up black people fighting each other because I brought up white people doing (black people) wrong. You really love us don't you undecided

Why would you do that when as a white person, those fights are not your business. How are you helping African people by receiving all of their acceptance of you, as you bring up the bad things they do to each other? I don't get it.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 7:54pm On Oct 15, 2006

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Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 7:44pm On Oct 15, 2006

@Mamput

My impression i have of AA is this.
Uneducated un cultured. and the English that they claim as first language they cannot speak it well.

How can you speak of AA English skills? When you can't even speak English properly. Every time I see your English words they carry many flaws. I don't say anything because I can see what you are trying to say so the flaws don't concern me. Maybe you should try accepting what you understand and what you don't understand, try to learn. No need in me trying to show you your flaws, anyone who's first language is English can clearly see.

[/quote][quote]Am not even sure they have a tradition so why should i kiss their Asses.

You are proving my point, Thank you. You said AA's are uncultured, your the one who is eluding that your culture is better than AA culture.

All this God bless America and Micky mause for president stuff gets on my nerves.
If a black man is making it you same person will call him an uncle Tom not so.

I agree with you on the Mickey mousing for president stuff but not all AA people Mickey mouse for the president.

A black person who makes it is an uncle Tom if he makes it and forgets about those who pushed him to the top. Just because you made it don't mean you aint black no more. As long as you are black and black people are responsible for supporting you, you should always look out for them as well. There is no such thing as making it on your own. Hell, you couldn't even come into this world on your own if your Mama didn't push you out. Whitey would want us to think that though and that is why we have allowed our self to become individualized. I am sure you can think of many Africans in Africa who made it and they took from the ones who supported them instead of helping the ones who supported them to make it as well. Just look at the Nigerian government? Hope I spelled this right, look at Iddy Ahmin, from Uganda as well as many others.

By the way Mamaput, I could have sworn I saw where you said you were a mixed child, how would you like it if Africans referred to you as not pure African? because both your parents are not African.

I know for a fact that some Africans do not consider you to be pure African. I think you need to rethink the way you perceive AA's.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 7:20pm On Oct 15, 2006

@Mamput

So what you are saying in the long run are that some neggers are more equal than others

No, Negro is better than another Negro but whitey has shown us through subliminals that we are our own worst enemy and this has caused us to hate who we are because we can't trust each other. Results are we seek out whitey for guidance. The more closer we try to get to whitey or the more we try to please whitey, in our mind, we are doing better than other Negroes who we consider our enemy and this shows in how we treat each other. Our perceptions of each other is all screwed up. These thoughts is what makes one tribe think he is better than the other tribe and this is what makes one culture think it is better than another culture when we are all black and we all suffer, suffer at the hands of whitey.

If you don't understand this, I don't know what to say.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 7:07pm On Oct 15, 2006

@Mamaput

Maybe the kind that like sucking AA Asses the way i like sucking white ass.

And this is exactly the problem that you have, you don't ever want to appear as though you are kissing an AA's ass, so you go out of your way to make sure the AA never thinks that she or he is better than you. You and Africans like you do this. The lady in the braid shop was doing this.

@Chinani

Please, stop with the assumptions. As you stated, English is your 1st language. You were taught English by people (your parents) who also spoke English as their 1st language, people who think in English. Please understand that people who do not think in English or speak it as their 1st language sometimes say things differently and can be misunderstood in general or simply by those are not used to their speaking patterns.

Chinani, if you have been following this thread, you must have missed something. I wasn't assuming anything about the English language that Africans speak. Babyosisi made a comment on my misspelled words. She is an African woman who speaks her native tongue and she speaks English. Damn near everyday she makes sure to come to this thread and make comments about my being a racist. But, on one particular day, she said nothing about my being a racist and her being a racist comments of me, were reduced to making comments about my misspelled words. After telling Babyosisi that if she saw misspelled words in my post, that would be because I was to lazy to doubled check (spell check) and my grammar but that she should not get it twisted, English is my first language. What I told her was the truth, she can't tell a master how to do things in their own home, English is my first language sense child hood. If Igbo was my second language and I heard her say something in Igbo I thought was not correct, who the hell would I be to tell her she is wrong? When Igbo is her first language. Even if I did see that she had made a mistake, I would know there is a good reason for it. That was my point of the whole thing. My example of Babyosisi was the braid shop story, she reminds me of the African woman who owned the shop and now Mamaput does as well with her (kiss AA ass) comment.

@Drusilla

You were wrong on both counts. The thread exists and I mentioned when asking somebody to find it for me that it was about a man being cheated by a woman.

Drusilla, good luck with getting Maxwell to recant, that girl twists stuff up all the time to make her points and that is why I call her stupid. Also, the proof that you supplied to give an example as to how Nigerians came to this mans aid, that proof was helpful to me and this girl has something personal against me so she will probably not recant due to that.

Maxwell, She popped in on the discussion one day out the blue and started making comments as if she had been keeping up with this discussion. She came off as someone who was looking to show and prove how clever and intelligent she was, but she wasn't really interested in the topic it self, you see what I am saying? If you pay attention to her, her vocabulary is very limited and she knows these words really well hate, hateful, deliverance, and racist. Most of the time she won't even say a sentence without all or at least one of those words. This is why I just went on ahead and gave her the racist, hateful, and no want for deliverance, hate whitey speech but she was to blind to see what that was all about and she took that speech out of it's satirical context. So, I just gave up on her ability to comprehend. I'm not sure at this point if it is an inability on her behalf or if she does it on purpose, twist things that is. Probably a mixture of both.

@Somegirl

Tell me then, was anger your ONLY reason?

What do you think?

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 5:11am On Oct 15, 2006

@maxwell

SISTA, EVERYONE THAT COMES ON THIS THREAD SEES THAT YOUR LIFE IS FULL OF HATRED. THEY SEE HOW RACIST YOU ARE AND TRY TO PUT YOU IN THE RIGHT PATH, BUT YOU FAIL TO LISTEN.

If everyone sees that my life is full of hatred why do you have to keep saying that when you post about me. The oldest trick to fool people is to keep saying the same thing over rather than let a person see for their self, you form their views through subliminals. Shut up, why don't you?

And they all see how you have become partime in donating your life to trying to prove this. Get a life and leave me alone.

Let me continue my so called hatred, you can't stop me so why do you continue to try? Use your time for something else more useful like trying to add some new words to your vocabulary besides hateful, racist and you need deliverance.

Please, leave me the hell alone. Why don't you?

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 3:49am On Oct 15, 2006

@Maxwell

No one twisted anything and you know it. Drusilla never mentioned that the white dude was duped, Why didn't she mention this in the first place ? She only mentioned half of the story to suit herself.

Do you hear your self? You are saying that because he was duped it is acceptable that he said all of Nigeria should be nuked so that all Nigerians can be killed.

Your so stupid. Why don't you just shut up.

@somegirl

And you still haven't told me why you brought up the whites in a thread that was about inter-tribal relationships in Nigeria. Are the whites now a tribe of Nigeria?

I'm the angry person remember? I have an excuse, don't you see?

You are supposed to be so understanding and all, so why would you attempt to provoke the situation?

What you thought was, I was a black person who would stand for you telling me negative things about my people. I'm not like[b] Maxwell[/b], Babosisi, and Mamaput. I'm not a well trained Negroe who has been programmed to treat whitey nice even when whitey is clearly trying to make my life and the life of my people a living hell. You can't be white and talking to me about my own people because what we do is none of your business. Like I said, you were being tit for tat, not very becoming of a white person who claims to relate to black people.

You assume that I'm not happy but you can't assume why I brought up white people in that topic?

Your such an out of touch white girl.

Celebrities › It's Fela's Birthday! by Sista(op): 1:47am On Oct 15, 2006

Fela Ransome/Anikulapo Kuti

Born October 15, 1938 in Abeokuta, Nigeria.

Died August 2, 1997

[size=15pt]This is a Tribute to Fela![/size]

Today is your Birthday Fela! and today we take out some time to acknowledge you. African people never forget the ancestors who have passed on into the spiritual realm.

I know there are a lot of people out there who love Fela as much as I do. What I love about Fela is, he gave me inspiration that black people all over the world will unite. I never knew a black man born in Africa who even cared about the Africans that were taken from Africa. Of course, I always felt that Africans in Africa thought about me and other black people who were taken as slaves but Fela, an African man, he confirmed through his music that we Africans in America, as well as all descendants of african slaves were never forgotten. Fela was at the same time admitting that we are acknowledged as brothers and sisters, who share the same ancestors as Africans on the continent of Africa.

[size=15pt]Fela, I want you to know that I never forgot about you and the rest of my brothers and sisters in Africa either.[/size]

It was while in the USA, Los Angelos California that you hooked up with a friend, Sandra Isidore, who introduced you to the writings and politics of Malcolm X, Eldridge Cleaver (and by extension the Black Panthers), and other proponents of Black nationalism and Afrocentrism. Impressed at what you read, you became politically revivified and decided that some changes were in order: first, the name of the band, as Koola Lobitos became Nigeria 70; second, the music would become more politically explicit and critical of the oppression of the powerless worldwide. I am so glad that you hooked up and became friends with Sandra, an African American sister. I am also happy that you were impressed with how she showed you that African Americans don't play when it comes to their human rights. Your visit to America and the time you spent with the African American brothers and sisters you got to know, inspired you to do this song with an African American Brother named Roy Ayers. In this song, Roy plays the vibes and African instrument most referred to as the xylophone. Together you and Roy showed the beauty Africans all over the world could create if we get together and share our goods despite of all the pain we have expereinced at the hands of whitey.

Many people don't know that when you went to school in Europe to study music, that you studied African American Jazz. I think you were attracted to your extended roots of African American Jazz and that is why you came to America. I think that is why your music is so original because you fused African music with the extended roots of African American roots of Jazz music. One extreme African experience fused with another extreme African experience. Wow Fela! that is some serious stuff, nothing to be palyed with!

You and Roy created a song Called "Centre Of The World Africa" This song is my best song in the whole wide world. It helps me to travel home to Africa in my mind. I picture all black people laughing, smiling, loving each other, not needing any outsiders to help us eat and keep a decent roof over our heads. Nor do we need them to handle our affairs. In my vision, I see you singing and everyone dancing. In my vision I am so happy, thank you Fela because in my vision, now, no African cares to, or wants to be like whitey, we just want to be us, Gods children. I would like for people to feel what I feel about the song you and Roy did.

Fela, I want to thank you for writing this song is. I like the way you include all Africans and you show whitey for who he is. Also, I like the beauty that you Fela and Roy were able to create. African born in Africa and African born in America unite this song and it sounds beautiful

Let's hear Fela sing and let's here Roy play them vibes.

For those of you who want to share in this song, click on the link and then click the song

"Centre Of The World, Africa" Listen to the vibes (xylophone) and listen to Fela's words.

It's a long song but it is beautiful and worth every long minute.

http://www.mp3.com/albums/489342/summary.html

Click on the preview button of "Center of the world"

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 12:43am On Oct 15, 2006

Babosisi reminds me of the African woman who got into it with the AA woman at the braid shop. The AA woman wanted her money back because the African woman had done a horrible job to her hair. The African woman did not like this AA woman telling her that her hair was ugly and that she was not satisfied. The African woman told the AA woman to take her own hair down and then she would refund her the money. The AA woman agreed and she left. When the AA woman came back to the shop, she had not taken her hair down because of something I don't need to explain but the African woman was so mad at the AA woman at this time that she let the AA woman have it. The African woman was yelling over her clients head saying "You think I'm stupid, I have college degree, I'm doing everything legally in this country, I'm doing everything right in this country, you think because you have job working for state you are better than me?" She kept saying this oever and over getting louder and louder. I was thinking the whole time and they say AA's are the ghetto ones. I know the African woman was mad but why did she have to bring up her education to the AA woman when the AA woman just wanted her money back? This goes to show that some African born black women are insecure towards us American born black women. i am sure it happes the other way around but we are talking about people like Babosisi. African born black women want to believe that theyare more intelligent and much more smarter than the AA woman and vise versa. Pleeeeeze, I don't care how many degrees you have, you will never be better at it than the master. English is my first language. If I miss spell, it was because I was to lazy to go back and check word for word what I was doing. I probably should but, I don't complain to people about their bad grammar and or misspelled words in nairaland because I have better things to be doing for one and for two, they didn't ask me for my help and because i dont' complain to no one about those things, don't expect for it to be done to me.

I know, I know, more waisted words undecided

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 12:25am On Oct 15, 2006

@Maxwell @Bayosisi

Maxwell, you twisted the clearing up to suit you. mamaput said the white man was mad at all Nigerians because he was duped by a Nigerian woman. He said he wanted all Nigerians dead. There is nothing to confuse or misconstrue there. You are so stupid. You turned the obvious into your ideal, your a dreamer that lives in the real word and you are to stupid and blind to see that you are stupid and blind.

Babosisi, as far as your telling me how to spell, find something else to do because now your not even doing what you usually do which is call me a racist, are you losing it that much that you are resorting to criticizing my spelling, with all the mistakes in spelling you make, pleeeeze. You have nothing else to do you old lady you shocked

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 12:01am On Oct 15, 2006

@Somegirl

I've said before that I am feeling for you when you expressed your emotions about being called an "akata" by some Nigerians. Now let me also tell you "e pele" for slavery, white racism and how it has influenced your life, because I believe you when you say it has. Just try to understand that not ALL white people are racists and should not be treated as if they were just by default. Some of them are even ashamed for something they haven't done themselves but somebody else with a similar skin colour (who might even be already dead since a long time). Anyway, e pele. I understand that you are angry but let your hatred not posses you. For the future, I hope that your wounds will heal and that you find happiness in your life.

What makes you think that I am not happy? Now you are really out of line.

Somegirl, you strike me as very selfish, I am being real and honset with you. You keep trying to convince me of this (not all white people) hype. When I say you keep, I am talking about another discussion you and I had in the Inter-tribal discussion as well as what we are talking about now in this discussion. What you need to understand is, my concern is for my people, not for the handful of nice white people who benefit from the evil their evil white brothers, sisters, cousins and etc do to my people as a whole, I'm talking globally. Your talking handful.

I don't like your approach as a white person who is supposedly concerned for what black people suffer at the hands of your people. Black people have obviously embraced you so much that you feel like your struggle equals to theirs but I am telling you, it doesn't. Because you have been embrace by my people, you feel that that gives you a right to get into our business. I am telling you that you do not have that right. You may feel that because you are white and you are related to the people who viciously rule this planet that that gives you a right to butt into black folks business but again, that don't entitle you. A big time rule white people need to remember is, when you are a visitor in another persons home or land, that is all you are is a visitor. Visitors should never butt into the business of the people they are visitors to.

You never cleared it up as to why you brought up the fights between the Yoruba, Hausa and the Igbo at a time that I was talking to another sister about how white people treat black people. Until you clear that up, My view of you is, you brought up those fights to get me and that sister to see our own people (Black people) as the enemy instead of seeing the real enemy as the enemy, your people, (white people.) I really don't care for your attempted words of concolement, nor do I wish to exchange words back and fourth with you. As far as I am concerned, you are looking out for those evil white people who hurt black people more than you are looking out for those same black people who have embraced you in their home land.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 11:44pm On Oct 14, 2006

@Mamaput

In Nigeria they will never see you as one of their own.
I will be suprised if the Bulk will even see you as Black,

Speak for your self and Nigerians like you.

I have plenty of Nigerians who love me as much as I love them.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 6:29pm On Oct 14, 2006

What happened to you, could it not have happened with a white woman as well?

There is a slight problem with this that you don't understand, A white man who feels black people owe him and should at all times accept him and most importantly be obedient to him, his concern is not that this could have happend with a white woman. His concern is that he was duped by a black woman who was supposed to be obedient and protective of him at all times. For him, this means the white brainwashed process is not complete because some of us Ni--ers are still running around not afraid to pay whitey back. Only, the thing is, we are getting away with it. How clever of that Negro. Negroes are not supposed to be that clever as to be able to put one over on a white man.

The sister who duped him saw right through his azz for the racist (kill blacks) he was, and she gave him what he deserved.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 6:27pm On Oct 14, 2006

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 6:15pm On Oct 14, 2006

@Mamaput

Many people here consoled him. It was not a matter of death to all Nigerians and we knew he did not mean it like that.
Some people could just understand him .
If it had been the man from the moon we would also have pitied him

That is a poor excuse!

Drusilla was right, Nigerians concoled a hateful white man who came in here, and said all Nigerians should be killled or dead.

If an African American had done what this white man did, ya'll would have been saying things like AA's are Akata's and no Nigerian person in their right mind would get wit one let alone stay with an Akata. In other words, it would have been the fault of the AA that he or she got played by the Nigerian like this white man got played. Only the AA deserved it, but the white man didn't, so he was concoled? Hypocrites!

How can Nigerians understand a white mans anger and hate about being mad with a Nigerian woman hence fourth leading him to saying that all Nigerians should be killed in a Nigerian forum? Yet, they can't understand and console me when I speak of how white people have hurt us all and still to this day hurt us all. I'm called a racist for telling the truth?

His one time pain is more understandable than the life time and generational pain my people as a whole suffer at the hands of his people, white people?

Do you hear your self Mamaput?

Any Black person who agrees with you, is Hypocritical.

I mean this is plain proof that some Nigerians in nairaland worship white women as angels and white men as God.

Maxwell, as you can see, that thread did excist. I know you wish it didn't because you don't want to be let down by your white God. Sorry, but one of your buddys just confirmed the thread exscist. So I think you should stop it right now with proving over and over that you are stupid?

Don't be mad at me for telling the truth shocked

No one really cares about your personal vendetta against me. You are waisting your time.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 9:56am On Oct 14, 2006

@Drusilla

I hope 925 comes back and reads what you posted to him. He has not been back to this discussion sense I responded to the last post he posted in this topic. I don't think he liked my response undecided

It is so good to have you back Drusilla, nairaland was desperately in need of your touch.

Hey, do you know the member Browneyes? She reminds me so much of you, I swear she does.

I was trying to leave the link in this psot but I'm having a hard time doing that. If you get a chance, check out Browneyes in the topic,

"inter- tribal Relationships"

Also, thanks ahead of time for researching that topic. I see though that you may need some help. Maybe you could find it in your profile under your last post section. You could go back and find the post you left to that thread which will probably bring you back to that thread.

Romance › Re: What Is Wrong With Dating Or Marrying An African American Man? by Sista(f): 9:15am On Oct 14, 2006

Oh God Drusilla, please get that link, I want to see it!

By the way, not fooled at all, not in the least bit.

Romance › Re: Ladies: Will You Marry A Poor, Jobless Man? by Sista(f): 8:54am On Oct 14, 2006

If the man is in a situation where he is unfortunate to be able to acquire a job, it is not his fault. Are you going to let go of love because the man has no job?

I don't understand, you love him and yet your not sure about marrying him because he has no job?

Do you believe in this man?

If you do believe in this man, you have to trust that he will get a job and until then, if you love him and he loves you, what is wrong with marrying him? Who says a man can't be a stay home dad who cooks, cleans, and runs errands while the woman brings home the bread grin

We need to reevaluate what it means to be a man and what it means to be a woman. As a couple, two people have to work together. If a man can cook better than the woman and he enjoys to cook, nothing is wrong with him cooking while she lets say, mows the lawn, if that is what she enjoys. It's called compromise. wink

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