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@Afam, it did not take these country a couple of months but it also did not take them 4-8 years with nothing to show did it? So won't these components need a facility, or will they just be assembled outside like lego bricks? So what on earth have the fact that they are in habour got to do with this section of the project or the laying down of vital infrastructure for these vital components? I do have a very good idea of how power stations work. Sorry if you feel i am annoying you but my questions from my previous posts still stand and i am yet to see them being nullified and you are yet to discount them and seem to be just dismissing them with "i don't know anything". Have a nice day

@delegiwa, i did not even want to go into the whole Omoku fiasco, LOL. But hey, at least we have the designs right?
Rockson engineering? I was sure that name was familiar and now i know why. If anyone read the interim report EFCC submitted concerning Peter Odili, thesame report that OBJ allegedly used to stop Odilli from running for president then the name Rockson Engineering will also be familiar. Here are some abstracts from the report.

v. [b]That Rockson Engineering Company Limited was involved in a number of fraudulent procurement of Iveco buses and Ferryboats for the State at the instance of the State Governor, Dr. Peter Odili.
vi. That the same Rockson Engineering Company limited, wth its star quality business leverage, curiously has aong its four major directors, Mr. Johnson Arumemi-Ikhide, and Mrs. Mary Ehiomome Arumemi-Ikhide
vi. Rivers State Government diverted the sum of =N=30,031,446,589.70 at various times to account number CA6010914407 at Zenith Bank Plc belonging to Rockson Engineering Company Limited just between January 07, 2004 to December 06, 2006.
vi. Rivers State Government diverted the sum of =N=30,031,446,589.70 at various times to account number CA6010914407 at Zenith Bank Plc belonging to Rockson Engineering Company Limited just between January 07, 2004 to December 06, 2006.

vii. Investigation also revealed that Rockson Engineering Company Limited has several bank accounts with Bank PHB Plc, Sterling Bank Plc, and United Bank for Africa (UBA) Plc, First Bank of Nigeria (FBN) Plc, Intercontinental Bank Plc and Union Bank of Nigeria (UBN) Plc. These banks were involved in the inflated contracts between Rivers State Government and Rockson. The statements of accounts from these banks are being
awaited to ascertain the magnitude of the inflows of the State Government funds into these accounts.[/b]

CONCLUSION.
From the investigation thus far, it is abundantly clear that the Rivers State Governor, Dr. Peter Odili, is using Mr. Arumemi-Ikhide and his Rockson Engineering Company Ltd as a front and a crony for the systematic looting of the treasury of the Rivers state Government.  The result of this relationship reveals that over =N= 100billion of Rivers State funds have been diverted by the Governor Dr. Odili using Mr. Arumemi- Ikhide and his relation

And there is plenty more where that came from. You can read it for yourself, just google it.

@Afam, the facilities haven't yet been completed? So what about all those sites that members of the house visited and they said there was nothing on site? My main question was not regarding why there is no electricity even if that in itself is a very valid question. My main question is in regards to construction and actual building of the facilities and the framework. Is that there? Did OBJ say there was actually any construction work done? So what about all those reports of construction sites that are just bush after the years? Did OBJ not sign all these cheques? I am not asking just to simply annoy you but rather to understand where you are coming from and to understand what seems to me making excuses for what as far as i can see is obvious failure. If all the billions of dollars means that there are power plants all over the country that are close to completion then that is a different matter all together but is that really the case and can all this money justify the ammount of progress?? Sorry, ,but as far as i can see, his defence at best is gross mismanagement on his path so why try and make him seem like an innocent bystander? If he was so innocent with nothing to hide then why did he refuse to pass the FOI bill before he left office when it had already been passed by everyone except him so that Nigerians can pour over this information ourselves and see the truth? I keep on going back to southafrica so that we can make that comparison since OBJ decided to use that comparison. They spent $40billion and how much power can they generate? How much did we spend and how much more can we now generate? That is the issue, it just simply does not tally up. In other countries money is awarded in contract for roads and voila, the roads get built. In Nigeria money (even higher than some other countries) is awarded in contracts but in our case the roads won't be built and the masses will still be suffering but in our defence the money went into design? China has in a relatively short period of time completed power plants to supply energy to their growing cities and voila, after spending money it is there. In Nigeria we spent money as well didn't we? Abi did we use cowries to pay? The power plants are not there but in our defence we have the designs So why all of a sudden do we have to apply different rules to Nigeria? Why

@Afam, in all you are still failing to answer my question, what is there to show for the ammount of capital poured in? If most of the money went into design, then what is there to show for it? A whole president spends billions of dollars on these so called "designs" and he does not have any info about the design documents that as you claim are "worth" these billions? Is that not just plain incompetence? And again, unless i am mistaken, you still haven't provided any equivalent examples of any sort involving these figures with nothing but designs to show for it. As i stated earlier, southafrica spent about $40billion on power and have a generating capacity of 40000MW, what did the billions spent in this case achieve? And that is a sucess story not to be probed to infinitum but to be applauded? As stated in the article the project was paid by cheques, who signed the cheques? Land compensation? As far as i can tell from the article, if we are to believe that what OBJ is saying is true and that capital spending was $6.5billion then correct me if i am wrong but i don't believe that includes compensation does it?

Here is a quote i want to pull out of the article that i found just ludacris, i leave it to your judgement.

As the head of that administration, I spared no public officer who committed any breach of public order, integrity and propriety, particularly fraud and corruption. No matter how high an official was, he was sanctioned for misbehaviour. In this respect, I lead by example. But if your Committee has anything to the contrary, bring it out here and now, to explain if explanation is necessary.

An further furthermore using southafrica as an example shows ignorance. Southafrica spent something along the region of $40billion on power. Guess what, they have a generating capacity of 40000MW. If we are to believe the figures from this article written by OBJ himself (i seriously doubt the figures), before OBJ came in Nigeria had about 1500MW, and according to OBJ, $6.5billion later how much power was added? Anyone that wants to claim that Nigeria has more than a common 3000MW should please prove it. Rivers state generated 2000MW? LOL. And further more unless i misread something (because it was like reading a novel with all sugar and no substance), on no occasion did he say wether he was turning up or not turning up. Only in Nigeria

I just don't understand how some people would want to come on and rationalise obvious failure if it is not living in denial. Someone "spends" billions of dollars wether 16 or 12 of 6 or whatever, and no one can see any improvement whatsoever in the power situation, in fact it has gotten worse, how does one rationalise that? Only in Nigeria. Someone "spends" billions again on roads and there is no evidence of work being done, (or did all the money go into road "design" too?) but nevertheless, the money is no more, how does one rationalise that? Only in Nigeria. All sectors in the country were allocated money and almost all sectors have been in decline, how does one rationalise that? Only in Nigeria. One could go on and on but what i really don't understand is how difficult it is to actually understand the outrage which is completely justified. Imagine paying a builder 500 000 naira to build garage for you, the builder spends 2 years "building" this garage and after he leaves all you see onsite is bush. Does that make sense? Someone please try and explain or rationalise that. If all the money went into design as someone here seems to claim, can we get a breakdown of how this money was spent in "designing"? Or is designing just another euphemism for stealing public money? @ Afam, so where are these "design" document that are worth $16billion? Try not to take offence because it is a genuine question and are there any examples in the world that you can give whereby an engineering design cost that much with nothing to show? Was the design for some sci fi power generating facility that has never been used before? Just because he could write a seemingly descent article and sound intelligent (while still not answering anything) does not mean he is innocent or without blame by the way. Unless we want to attribute such a judgement to IBB too and say because he has some intelligence he is an angel.

Oh please, forgive my frustration but EFCC could go jump into a ditch for all i care. People should stop being fooled by all the noise and no action and EFCC should just shut up unless they are ready to actually genuinely do anything. Can anyone please name one politician that is in jail today because of EFCC or ICPC or whatever cc? Is Ibori in jail? After all the hoopla that was caused and the noise and importance of the fact that Yardaua was in the states when this was going on and all that jazz, is he in jail? What about Odilli? Is the armed robber in jail? Has OBJ even been investigated despite that fact that his name seems to come up in every corrupt transaction being discovered? What about Igbenidion? All the noise that was made and what has happened? What about Iyabo? A whole senator people, a whole senator who has even been reported as turning up for work, and they can't "find" her? After the whole trial of Alams what happened? The trial took so long while he relaxed comfortably that by the time it was all over, they let him go because he had apparently "served" his time during the trial fiasco. So i ask you people please, unless i am missing something, which public thief is in jail today as a result of the EFCC? This government is actually adding insult to injury when they continue talking about this non existent rule of law as business as usual continues.

I really do believe the media can play a part in this. I think a Nigerian based political show where politicians are asked serious questions and cross examined about different issues and their plans including public input is long overdue. As opposed to the big man butt kissing oga sir that defiles the airwaves all the time

There is wide spread ignorance of the genuine rights of the people and the benefits good and uncorrupt governance can bring. There is also ignorance on what is seen as corruption and its harm on everyone and the country as a whole. Although fair enough there are a lot who are corrupt and know it and know its implications, but what about all those rural areas that don't even have roads and still vote. Those places and even some cities that corrupt people can still go and the people will hold festival to welcome thieves. I know it sounds trivial but this is part of the cause. Ignorance on what is right and benefitial for the country. Also, when the people stop behaving like Esau and stop selling their birth rights for a plate of rice when election day comes then you can now tell me people are serious. One solution to this people, one solution that we can all partake in? Educate people especially in rural areas. It could be anything from speaking to people in rural areas or some family members or going to schools or writing insightful articles which can be read by students and stir up debates. I know it sounds condescending but we all know what corruption is doing to the country and that we don't really have a democracy. If we all get more active politically for the sake of the nation then we can change things. People always complain about feeling helpless and this is my suggestion. Also, the house of reps is meant to be the voice of the people. Find out who the rep from your area or state is. Engage them if you can, anyone, even local government chairmen, anyone. And ask them what plans they have for the state. Why have certain bills in the house not been passed yet. These are all things that won't cost an arm and a leg but can still make a difference.

I really don't think the frustration at the right people and the situation has reached a national level because it is hard to imagine that the national assembly and government houses would not have been mobbed by now and people like Odilli, Ibori, Obasanjo and the rest of their kind who EFCC (a dead agency) has failed to do anything about, drawn out to the street and flogged old fashioned african style before being paraded on the street like the robbers they are for being a menace to the country.

@Jamco45, if you said something like firing on the spot for corrupt officers and long term improsonment if prosecuted then i would say that is viable thinking outside the box. Even shooting on sight or public flogging (i am not advocating these by the way) then that is thinking outside the box. I am sorry, but paying thieves more money to not steal That i really don't get.

@Jamco45, i don't think your comparison with UK in this case is valid. Firstly, UK is an expensive place to live in period. London alone has a very high cost of living that is why when people come to England on holiday from the states they find it hard to cope with expenses because of the cost of things. Comparing the price of things in UK with the price of things in Nigeria will immediately show this and it is even deeper than that. For a president that is fed by tax money, transported by tax money, clothed by tax money (check out all the allowances they get) in Nigeria i really don't think that figure is so unreasonable. Another thing you have to factor in is the difference in the money earned by him and the surrounding standard of living. I really do think it would be the height of insensitivity if we have a situation whereby the leaders live in disgusting oppulence while everyone else suffers. Increasing salary to that level in my opinion only become validated when the standard of living around the country increases. Pay them more so they don't steal? I find that quite funny. No one forced anyone to be a leader did they? Is it by force? And that my friend is why it is so annoying. There are so many people who want to enter these positions to simply lead and develop the nation. So don't speak as if every Nigerian is corrupt and only wants to get in to loot. If certain people just left Nigeria alone and left people who are serious about leadership then things will change in a much shorter time than you think.

@dee02. Your scepticism is completely and utterly understood and Nigerians do have valid reasons to be sceptical given the history of governance we have. However i did not post that story to coclude that this would be done, but given that the current government of lagos is already delivering on some of its promises and developing on the rest and given that this same government seems to be run and lead by intelligent people who understand the situation in lagos and seem to have a genuine interest in developing the state given what they have accomplished so far and the ground work being laid, i am inclined to at least take them seriously. If this was announced for somewher like port harcourt i wouldn't even have bothered.

I knew i had seen this in some places but did not want to post without a source.


Lagos to Generate Electricity from Wind
05.08.2008

Lagos State Government on Wednesday revealed that it was exploring the possibility of using wind energy and small hydro power systems to combat the recurrent problem of erratic power supply in its rural areas.
The Commissioner for Rural Development, Prince Lanre Balogun, who disclosed this while addressing the press at Alausa added that the government was also going to explore solar energy and on –site-power generating system.
He explained that this has become imperative because of the high cost of connecting several rural communities in the state to the national grid.
Balogun also informed that the state government has also provided 44 oil immense transformers of 500KVA each to various communities within the state up till the end 2007.
The ministry also provided watercraft and motorcycles to 10 riverine communities on the other side of River Oshun by Igbonla area to ease their transportation problem, the Commissioner added.
Prince Balogun also informed that the state government has initiated a rural transport scheme called the Lagos Rural Transportation Initiative (LARUTI) which would ensure the manufacture of tricycle that safely convey people and goods from the rural areas to urban centres,
The commissioner also disclosed that the ministry had employed additional 1, 500 Neighbourhood Watchers and equipped them with necessary equipment to enhance its grassroots security service.
He listed the equipment provided to the neighbourhood watchers to include: 73 patrol vehicles for state officers and coordinators and 201 motorcycles to its field officers to gather information from the grassroots. He also stated that 50 artisans were trained by experts from Thailand on the production of exportable arts, crafts and house hold furniture that would entail the use of fibre from water hyacinth, banana peels, sisal, coconut leaves, bamboo, cane, willow and raffia, he said.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=110861

@ufofex even if gas which we have abundance off is not used to generate power for all of Nigeria, it can at least be used to generate power for Rivers state, Bayelsa and even a couple more states. I still believe governors should take the initiative to generate power for their respective states. Enugu was already thinking of using their coal, good for them. With such an incompetent government that lacks the will or purpose (so it seems) then the only hope right now is individual governors that have this will and purpose. Unfortunately not all governors, not even half seem to have this will or purpose. So the ones that do should do it, generate more revenue for their states. While the idiots that fail to see past their belly can see how beneficial it is to the economy and to everyone in general except corrupt NEPA.

They had radio and CD player? Really? So anyone could get on with their cd and put it on? LOL, come on. So did you ask the driver who i suspect would be in charge of this why the radio was not on or did you just assume it was not working? Again, if you keep on going on about this one bus you entered then i am sorry but i am far from being convinced. This is all just (to me anyway) very trivial stuff. I hope the maintenance facilities on the bus depots are handling ther job, but i am still far from convinced that there is any viable arguement to postulate that the BRT is a disaster. Far from it, i think it is somewhat a sucess in its own right that just needs to be maintained and expanded and then supported by the likes of other transport types like Rail and water. Now if i come into your compound and i take a picture of an empty can on the floor, is it then fair for me to come to the conclusion based on that, that your whole house and area is filthy? If you say the BRT is a disaster please show more evidence and provide more details and show more than 1 bus out of over 100.

While Solar might be a viable alternative, i really don't believe it should be the focus at all, not at this point anyway. All these renewable sources, wind, solar, tidal, etc. They should only be supplements at this stage but nevertheless viable supplements to the main energy grid. We keep on hearing of gas flaring. The gas in the Niger Delta is enough to power Nigeria and yet till this day nothing has been done about it and it is still being flared and wasted.

Do you know if all the BRT buses in lagos are like this? So this is the BRT Timebomb? Sorry, still find it quite amusing. If i recall there is a maintenance facility built for all the BRT buses. Now if you happen to enter that same bus again in maybe a week later and the louvres are still missing and nothing has been done to address it then to me that "might" become a valid arguement for a problem with the maintenance guys in the store facilities. But to say BRT is doomed because of a few missing louvres in one of the buses? LOL. Why didn't you take pictures of the whole bus including the back? Not just picture of water and a plastic bottle on the ground?

I also see nothing wrong with these pics. Is it the trash you want people to look at?  That happens everywhere, now if it had been there for a couple of days then you could raise an issue. But to snap picture of bottle on the ground that someone might have just thrown on the floor and say that means BRT is a time bomb, that i find quite amusing. No windscreens? You sure the window wasn't just open? LOL. Also, i don't remember anyone ever saying BRT was the lasting solution, please feel free to post and correct me or prove me wrong. If i remember correctly it is part of the solution which would also include water transport (modern boats and jetties etc) and plans for train sevices which would all form an integrated transport system. Also, there are plans to get 300 more new BRT buses by next year. All this information is not hard to come by, just do some research. Unless i am missing something, i still don't see what is wrong with the BRT scheme which is expanding to include newer routes?

This is what happens when every other state fails to develop due to wickedness and greediness and selfishness of leaders. How does this relate to Lagos' predicament you might ask? If other states in the country developed their capital cities and even towns and could provide decent employment etc for indigenes of that state, not everybody would be in a hurry to run to lagos and make a state and city already suffering from overpopulation and a serious area boy problem that has been the misery of residents even worse. Before the spotlight was turned on Abuja a few years ago, lagos was the only viable option. One serious way of decongesting lagos is if there was a spread of development in other areas and cities in the country. Too bad lagos is the only place right now that seems to be receiving serious leadership which means this trend is not about to be reversed anytime soon. Cities that could immediately be developed to absorb this apart from Abuja and Lagos are cities like Port Harcourt, Calabar, Kano and even Warri. Port Harcourt is just in shambles and has been that way for quite a while now, no thanks to the insurgence of fools and thieves instead of leaders in the past 9 years.

@Kobo i don't believe anyone on this thread thinks or is expecting government to be the messiah of any sort. But then what on earth do we have the government for then if it is actually not doing anything and in the past has made things worse? Why do we have an agric ministry and minister? I do genuinely understand where you are coming from and i agree to an extent. However, running farms has to be profitable for it to have continuity. In this day and age of commercial farming on an industrial scale with the use of advancement in technology such things which would improve the profitability of farms significantly, are not chicken change are they? That is why government around the world subsidise farming. At the end of the day what a lot of farmers can then produce after all the hard work you are claiming they don't put in, is enough to feed their families and then sell some. But one thing i will agree with you on is the need for more collaboration without government help. Collaboration among privately owned farms to boost the agric sector and develop it. However it is still annoying and painful that the agric ministers and commisioners go home with a salary and money is plunged into the sector when it all seems in vain don't you think?

@Kobo don't tell me you don't see the issue here. The issue or anger or whatever is not directed at the white farmers but directed at a government that seems to offer no support whatsoever to its own people and citizens but would bend over backwards for others. That is the issue and i am sorry but i find that a bit dissappoiting. The issue about race is not something you should direct at the people voicing their complain here but at a government who as you have stated had the lands with indeginous farmers for many years but did nothing to help to boost the sector unless you can provide information to the contrary. To be fair though i am assuming the Zimbabwean farmers would have more technical know how. But the point is the government offers no support whatsoever to its people and is anticitizens. Houses with even paid for satellite and so on an what did the Nigerian farmers get in government help? We live in a global world but governments in countries with sense still put the interest of their citizens first if not they get voted out. A point in case is the american law that stopped Richard Branson (a Briton) owning more than 25% of his own airline he wanted to expand in the United States. That is a country with sense. Taking care of the interest of its citizens and trying to create and generate wealth and prosperity for the indigenes. Does that in anyway sound like the government we have to you? That is probably why the whole BA hoopla might be so popular. It is no more about wether the guy was at fault even though it is clear that in his case the issue is with the police and not BA, just the fascination that the Nigerian government can seem to work for its people is a concept unheard off

Nothing annoys me more than when these people get into power and start acting like this as if it is their birthright in the midst of poverty. What are they going to learn in USA and Canda and such? Especially in this age of internet? I want to be so naive as not to jump to conclusions so @poster any more info on what it is they have to travel all the way to US to learn? If this is happening at the state level imagine what is happening at the national level where they refused to entertain the freedom of information bill and then they want trips. Have any of them earned it? What have they done that is so stressful apart from turning up that they need 4 days to relax abroad. They can't just pack them all into lorry and take them to bar beach with government paid pure water and one packet of nasco biscuit for doing nothing? I really hope this is just hear say and not true because these stories are just depressing.

Yes pollution is an issue but it is not what shocked me. Certain people in that country have profited from the chaos in so many ways. $140BILLION for crying out loud. That is disgusting and gives corruption a new name. That is just, i am utterly speechless. And this is one of the reasons why when people come here to praise the current government for not stealing i get frustrated. People are earning mega ammounts of money from all this chaos and to the detriment of everyone else and the economy of the country and the future, growth and prosperity of the country. We have no working refinery so we have to import fuel. NO WORKING REFINERY IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS THE LARGEST EXPORTER OF CRUDE OIL IN AFRICA. Wasn't Obasanjo's son gaining from importing fuel in the last administration? Pure wickedness.

Read this abstract from an article i came accross today. The article is quite long but i took out the part that stands out the most.



This is the headline of the investigation report of Omoh Gabriel and Hector Igbikiowubo. The following are the details of their report.

"Nigerians spend about N16.408 Trillion annually on fuelling generators in the country. The break down shows that in the telecom sector, N6.7 Trillion is spent per annum to purchase diesel while filling stations spend N43.98 billion; factories N191.08 billion; banks N11.7 billion; insurance companies N80 billion; residential N7.812 trillion; and commercial enterprises, N1.57 trillion giving a total of 16,408,760 trillion or $140 billion expended on fuelling generators in the country annually."

The above does not include expenditures on labour, repairs and the impact on the environment and thus the health of the citizenry.

When the above are added, we see that the Generator Economy is the real Power Economy and that NEPA is its sub-sector. The report continues:

"Owing to paucity of data from the Customs and Excise department, the Federal Office of Statistics, PHCN, the Standards Organization of Nigeria (SON) and other government agencies visited, Financial Vanguard discovered that generating sets utilized by this category of consumer range from 0.8KVA to 500KVA, depending on how many consumers it is meant to serve.

It was projected that most of those who have recourse to use generating sets are mostly urban dwellers and a few others in the rural areas.

This amount to 300,000,000 litres of petrol per day and at current pump price of N70 per litre, N21 billion per day, N651 billion per month, N7,812 trillion or $66,769 billion per annum.

Investigations revealed that there may be about five million commercial enterprises operating in the country including barber shops, hair dressing, salons, restaurants, super markets, boutiques, block moulding factories, recording studios, dry cleaning services, night clubs, casinos, offices etc utilizing an average of eight litres of petrol per day on different capacity of generating sets.

This translates to 40 million litres of petrol per day or 1.24 billion litres of petrol per month or 14.88 billion litres per annum. At current pump price, this translates to N1.57trillion or $13.35 billion expenditures per annum. However this does not include the cost of oil change, spare parts and labour."


Although there is need to reconcile these different figures given as the annual expenditures on fuel - N16.408 trillion or N7.812 trillion or N1.57 trillion, Gabriel and Igbikiowubo do show us how to go about quantifying the costs of fuelling generating sets in the country.

When the costs of these generators and NEPA bills are added we begin to appreciate the cost of energy to those who cannot work without it.

More importantly we begin to appreciate the contribution of the import of generators to the economy of the exporting countries.

Why do we describe the Generator Economy both domestic and international as a disguise of Corruption? Because it is the effect of the decision to structure the supply of power in Nigeria in a manner that guarantees the sustainability of the Generator Economy.

abbstract from http://allafrica.com/stories/200805060447.html?page=1

I don't believe there is any law stating that states can't try to create power for themselves. In the last administration Peter Odilli "invested" in gas turbine but it turned out to be just another avenue he used to loot ridiculous ammounts of money. Obasanjo even went to commision it and the thing was not even working. Obasanjo was even told which switch to press (basically only one out of like 12). He ignored and pulled the other switches and nothing happened, corruption. Lagos at some point has apparently been looking into generating their own power and apparently chevron was going to do it. I don't know what happened or is happening with regards to that

@Uche2nna you won't get any arguement from me about that. I really believe states should be striving to achieve stable power supplies in their own domain. As i posted much earlier on, there are plans to build a power station for Abuja alone with a capacity of 1300MW. Lagos needs stable power so badly and i hope Fashola addresses this because he is the only governor that seems to have sense among all of them because if the plan is to wait for Yaradua then we might have to wait a long time. Time which we can't afford to continue wasting

@4 Play, i never disregarded management as an issue and i just assume that in a common sense disposition when government is building power plants they will also build distribution systems. I never dicounted management or maintenance as an issue but is that really the fundamental issue here? Managing what we don't even have?

@quadrilloio, LOOOOL. That is soo funny. We might need to outsource but the preferrable solution is having local indeginous business running things to cycle and generate the wealth for Nigerian citizens. However the non existent education sector has made this very difficult. The country basically needs emergency in like every sector. Do people now understand why Yaradua's pace gets people (well me anyway) very worried?

@Uche2nna, in that case sure. But to be honest we are were we are right now so at this point in time i maintain we need aggresive development in this sector that is so vital and yet has been non existent and dormant.

@Uche2nna, managing 5 Naira and keeping the note clean and all that, is not going to magically give you 10 naira is it? We need more facilities and we need to build more of these aggresively because this power problem has to be tackled. It is not about managing something that is not even close to enough to say the least in the first place even if the facilities were running at optimum. Management is an issue yes, but is not the mfundamental issue is it? @Lady T, sorry i missed that

LadyT:
Greed is stopping us I mean we do apparently have the right equipment billions have been spent!

Really? Are there any pictures you can find of these so called mordern facilities that all that money built? Hasn't the house probe shown that billions were given to the contractors and the guys had not even visited the sites?