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Politics › Re: Lagos State Govt - Are They On Crack?! by SkyBlue1: 9:23pm On Jun 13, 2008
@Arnorld1 i find it interesting that it was only for one way driving that the passenger becomes liable, why do you think that is? Let us put one way driving in perspective especially on an express road. One way driving is nothing short of complete and utter stupidity, blatant hooliganism and lawlessness which can easily lead to fatality of passengers on not just the path of the offender but also on the side of innocent drivers who are obeying the laws and driving on lanes designated for that direction and not expecting that someone would be so stupid as to defiantly drive in the opposite direction as if they are the only ones in the whole world that need to get somewhere.

Even i can see that the purpose of that particular fine is to encourage passengers to demand compliance with the law from their drivers. This looking the other way and letting people carry on with breaking the law especially on the road where it can easily cause death or disability is just something i don't get and would never try to justify. If someone says he/she was desperately begging the driver of the vehicle to stop driving on the wrong side of the road then he/she can take it to court because that is what they are there for.

As long as the fines are not paid to officers but paid to the lastma public account/treasury and the public is made aware that this is how it is meant to be then these fines are welcome (for me anyway). If you don't want to be fined then respect the law.
Politics › Re: Federation Account. How They Share N892bn In May 2008 by SkyBlue1: 7:04am On Jun 13, 2008
A more interesting release would be information showing the revenue all the states generated in a set time and also how much money each state invested in different projects (e.g. infrastructure) also in thesame set time. That would be more relevant than this table which shows how much handout was given to each state.
Politics › Re: Nationwide Blackout! June 19 by SkyBlue1: 12:42am On Jun 12, 2008
I can imagine people beginning to sell merchandise like shirts which say "i survived nationwide blackout day" or mugs and caps to serve as a "footnote" to the occasion.
Politics › Re: Nationwide Blackout! June 19 by SkyBlue1: 11:12pm On Jun 11, 2008
Since when did NEPA taking light become news? LOL
Politics › Re: Lagos State Govt - Are They On Crack?! by SkyBlue1: 11:04pm On Jun 11, 2008
@Sagamite sorry but i will have to disagree with you on this because again what is going on here is just continuous assumptions being made when i am guessing not even you know how the fines are going to be implemented and integrated into the system.

@wirinet really do think about the question you asked, why on earth is it that someone who acts crazy in lawless in Nigeria can act sane and respect laws in other countries? It is very interesting that you immediately seemed to go straight to blaming the Nigerian "system" for this instead of aknowleging the fact that other countries have law and order which Nigeria does not have. No stupid person will try the level of disregard for law and order shown in Nigeria abroad why? Because they will get punished for it and they know it won't be like Nigeria where you can get away because you know somebody. Offences are liable to punishment which they rightly should be. Saying that we are not living in an "ideal" enviroment just seems like excuses made for not doing the right thing. So it is only in another country that the right thing should be done? And then when some attempt at installing order in Nigeria is being made by deterring people from violating laws which can be fatal to others is put in place it then becomes unfeasible because Nigeria is not "ideal"? So is England or America a Utopia of some sort? WOW, I just simply don't get this line of reasoning to say the least.

If people want to make this an issue about enforcing of the fines when they don't even know how such is going to be conducted then fine, but i will not and we are actually beginning to go round in circles. I for one do not object to these fines, if people have to be scared into obeying the law and installing some form of order in the mayhem that is lagos then so be it.
Politics › Re: Lagos State Govt - Are They On Crack?! by SkyBlue1: 1:30pm On Jun 11, 2008
@Sagamite, you really want to even begin to compare driving in the UK to driving in Nigeria? The difference is very clear and i say that from experiences and observations as i am sure you do too. You said flouting of traffic laws is not the problem but lack of infrastrucure (which is already being seriously addressed), laws (which is what is being addressed and let us not be coy, road laws are already in place people just choose not to obey them), and responsibilties and accountability from the authorities (which is also being addressed via lastma). Even with all of that, i disagree with absolving the people from the blame. That whole issue about road side churches and revivals is also being addressed and just serves as a footnote to the culture of anything goes without consequences attatched that has become common practice in Nigeria.

If you want to make the issue about enforcing the fines properly then make it so. Do any of us know wether the fines are to be paid to lastma officials or wether offenders are just given a notification or ticket and registration taken whereby they have to pay to Lastma? And yet all these assumptions are just being made. What is ther point of a deterrent if it does not deter you. What are the fines for smoking in the railway stations and the underground in UK? What is the fine for jumping on the track? Please inform the people. Even being caught on a train without a valid ticket makes the offender liable to prosecution. If you choose to disregard laws then why the shock when you become liable to punishment?

Driving in Nigeria is crazy because people choose to flout laws and there is some sought of sick twisted culture of this all over the place, fines are put in place to deter people from flouting such laws and putting order in the system. And yet the fines are wrong and are to blame instead of the practice of road abuse and violations that causes a lot of accidents and incoveniece to others? If you are willing to flout the law then you do so at your own risk and you should be content with living with the consequences. If you are willing to diregard the law then be willing to take some responsibility as well. The funny thing about this is that the issue being complained about is not even the law, but the law enforcement and we have all been complaining that laws are not being enforced. Let us stop being hypocritical with this, we complain when government officials steal and enrich themselves with public money while doing nothing and then after all that nothing happens but we want thesame to be applied to us when we break the law? The fines are not a new law of some sort, they are fines meant to serve as a deterrent and punishment for breaking already existing laws.
Politics › Re: Lagos State Govt - Are They On Crack?! by SkyBlue1: 11:07am On Jun 11, 2008
@texazzpete, so i am guessing your problem is with the implementation of the fines by law enforcment agencies? You could argue that like i stated earlier, but for the fines themselves? As for me i don't see the problem with that. @oyb and Sagamite the lagos state government has been rehabilitating roads and building new ones since they got into power and have made a very significant improvement, basically i am lead to believe that even the whole Central business district  has no bad roads, i may be wrong but feel free to correct me and post pictures or whatever if you want. The fines are meant to be a serious deterrent to road violations so you could argue with the enforcement of the fines but by doing so do we even don't know if these raod laws would be enforced by Police officers which you all seem to be assuming would be the case or by lastma officials? Have you ever seen the case in other countries whereby police men of the force enforce traffic laws as opposed to traffic wardens which is the area lastma is supposed to be handling? Why don't we get more info concerning the way these laws will be enforced instead of assuming this and that like most of us seem to be doing? @Sagamite, you say if someone has been in traffic for a while then they should be allowed to break the law and use such as a justification? Now do you know how open to abuse such a system in itself will be in the hands of Nigerians? What would change? I hope you also take into consideration that flouting of laws is what causes so much of the traffic in the first place, street traders and bus drivers and trucks who turn a three lane road into one lane while even the one lane is used as bus stop in itself (can you imagine), i believe lagos state government has banned that now. I see no justification for flouting the traffic laws because you have been "waiting" for a long time because that is just selfishness since people leaving the road and doing something wrong is simply going to cause another traffic jam somewhere else so what does that solve? Sow what did people want the fines to be, 50 to 200 Naira? Considering people already pay more that that in bribery and "thanksgiving" to police officers you think they would mind parting with such sums? Then what is the deterrent? How many accidents have been caused by irritating tanker drivers who drive useless vehicles that sound like they have vehicular diarrhea and then when they break down the truck drivers just leave them there without any proper sign to notify other road users which is very dangerous especially at night and has caused a lot of accidents? Check for yourself and now imagine if such a truck was carrying fuel, imagine the devastation. It is just selfish and inconsiderate and you want the fine for that to be what? Or take driving against traffic, i don't believe i need to write an essay on that but people do it in Nigeria anyway because of this feeling that it is only you in the whole world that is late and has somewhere to be, it is just ridiculous. So what sum do you think would serve a reasonable deterrent for flouting of such laws that cause a lot of inconvenience to other road users and even fatal accidents to some?
Politics › Re: Are You Proud Of Your Armed Forces? by SkyBlue1: 11:39pm On Jun 10, 2008
superboi:
billymuse it sad how you use a tiny fraction to jugde a whole bunch.well internationally the nigerian army is more respected than nigerian business men based on professional achievements.
Of course foreigners who have never been to the country might have respect for the Nigerian army, they don't have to deal with given them offering or "thanksgiving" everyday.
Politics › Re: Lagos State Govt - Are They On Crack?! by SkyBlue1: 7:05pm On Jun 10, 2008
texazzpete:
May i use this logic to suggest the death penalty for missing Environmental Sanitation? Or for not using overhead bridges?
@texazzpete, you don't think you are blowing this out of proportion? The way such fines are to be implemented by the police concerning passengers can be discussed, but as long as the public is made aware of the fines i don't see the problem with the fines themselves. Now if you know that something like driving on the wrong side of the road is wrong and you do it anyway, endangering others and causing traffic jams etc and you get fined, whose fault is it?
Politics › Re: Lagos State Govt - Are They On Crack?! by SkyBlue1: 6:48pm On Jun 10, 2008
The fines are meant to be a serious deterrent to such violations. As long as the public is well informed about these fines and there is a serious campaign by government to inform the public i don't see the problem. Hefty fines? Perhaps, but i believe you seeing them and being shocked at the consequences of such violations actually means the fines have served their purpose.  smiley
Politics › Re: Gani Is Back! Sues Yaradua Over Waziri. by SkyBlue1: 6:41pm On Jun 10, 2008
WOW, what a citizen, now imagine if every citizen was doing this, not necessarily sueing but holding people in public office more accountable to the citizenry. However just one question though, unless i am mistaken isn't the federal government under the current constitution immune from prosecution or has such been ammended? Because if you remember that was the excuse EFCC used for not going after ex governors during their tenure.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 1:34pm On Jun 10, 2008
wirinet:
@ Ujujoan
I know you are right when you say we lack adequate manpower,both managerial and technical; as most of them have been stolen by USA, Europe and Canada has also joined in poaching manpower from Nigeria. thereby leading to our most serious problem (worse than corruption itself), which is INCOMPETENCE, MALADMINISTRATION AND PLANLESSNESS. Thereby giving room for corruption to thrive and grow, unabated.

Having said that, NO MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT CAN TAKE PLACE WITHOUT POWER. Uju read your history, before any country can embark on an industrialization drive, It must resolve how to get the power necessary. Britain embarked on massive exploitation of coal to drive their stream engines (no internal combustion engines then). It was the drive to find energy to drive her industrialization that lead the US to discover and exploit black oil (crude oil). even today china is swallowing up almost 40% of the world crude market and is ready to die for Sudan because of the oil needed to drive her industrialization.

@ Skyblue,
You cannot run industries solar or inverters, if it is possible i am sure more advanced countries would have been making use of it on a large scale.
The energy they produce is too small and too expensive to install. Technology has not reached the stage to make it economically feasible, otherwise USA would not be going to war to preserve her oil supplies. So even today at $140 per barrel, Oil remains the cheapest and most available form of energy.

Having said that it is foolhardy to rely only on Oil for your energy needs. A country that have leaders with even half brains would know you have to have a good energy mix from the following sources, in case they is problem with one source.

1. Fossil fuel.
2. Gas.
3. Hydro
4. Thermal (heat from the ground)
5. Solar.
6. Biofuels
7. Nuclear - the future of world energy is NUCLEAR. It is abundant and cheap, the only problem is its toxic bye-products and the ease of using it to make the bomb. That is why countries like Iran and western countries are investing heavily in nuclear.
Sky Blue:
@Ujujoan, these alternatives i recommend for small businesses etc, i really don't see the nation becoming industrialised by running industries on inverters and with the current state of solar technology i don't see industries being run by solar panels either. These alternatives i recommend for people in their homes and for small businesses.
Please read my posts more carefully next time   cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 12:42pm On Jun 10, 2008
Seun:
There's nothing wrong with the generator economy. People should use whatever is most affordable.
@ seun For real? So let us ignore the monumental pollution that is generated from all these generators burning fuel, can industries be run on generators? The fact is that this generator economy benefits only a few to the detriment of the masses and the economy and well being of the nation. The money needed by people to run generators makes business expansion at times not feasible due to the ammount of money required to sustain electricity generation which should be provided. it is just not practical and it just goes to show how deep the coruption runs. Just look at how polluted lagos is, so polluted from exhaust fumes that it has become a health hazard for sometime now, and there is nothing wrong with all of this?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 12:39pm On Jun 10, 2008
@Ujujoan, these alternatives i recommend for small businesses etc, i really don't see the nation becoming industrialised by running industries on inverters and with the current state of solar technology i don't see industries being run by solar panels either. These alternatives i recommend for people in their homes and for small businesses.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Power Shortage To Persist by SkyBlue1: 12:23pm On Jun 10, 2008
What i still don't understand is why the federal government is unwilling to genuinely admit its failure by taking a change in direction. What i mean is simply this, if with the so called hundred and something power projects completed the country is not able to hit even 15000mW does that not suggest that the strategy is wrong? Does that not suggest that the scale of the development should be much larger? Does that not suggest that maybe the country should then be thinking of nothing less than 500 power plants or fewer power plants with much larger generating capacity? It sounds enourmous right? So if the federal government is not up to the task then what are the states doing? Imagine if all the state governments invested in power plants from 1999 till now, do you think the power problem would be this bad? States and regions should begin to call their governments to order. I keep maintaining that the day a state government is able to supply 24/7 power to the state to which they are accountable might be the dawning of a new day. Maybe, just maybe, then other states will begin to ask better from their government when they see the enormous impact such a feat would have on the economy and revenue of the state. If such a thing is to happen in this administration the only governor i can see doing it is Fashola and maybe Imoke. As for the rest? . . . . . . . . .
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 12:07pm On Jun 10, 2008
On a side note i think people should begin to vote with their feet, small scale businesses in order to cut cost of running generators should find an alternative. Kobojunkie has been posting threads about solar panels and Afam about inverters. Why continue to patronise the generator economy?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 12:02pm On Jun 10, 2008
Do you think it is economically feasible to power industries and businesses on generators? The only thing this generator economy can build is small scale businesses and mamaput, if businesses are to grow and more importantly if there is to be any kind of industrialisation of the economy whatsoever then i really don't see it happening without a healthy power supply, do you? Nigerians tend to be quite business minded, the fact that businesses although small scale have managed to strive in such huge numbers with the lack of power supply, lack of water, lack of descent infrastrucutre in most of the country and insecurity, is testament to this.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 10:48am On Jun 10, 2008
@Ujujoan i think you might be underestimating the effect constant power supply can have on the Nigerian economy and life to say the least.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 9:22am On Jun 08, 2008
@waziri i can assure you that there is more to designing a car than importing engine and different parts. I hope you are not confusing outsourcing of some components like radio, etc to more specialist companies with "importing" everything. Nowadays, due to the ability to share information about technological advancements and due to the fact the the efficieny of the internal combustion engine cannot be be greatly increased and will hence at the moment remain inefficient, the design in a car lies in the other parts and in the subtleties of tweaking well defined parts to achieve different outcomes, hence there is always room for radical designs and approaches so i do not agree with that statement as i know there is more to designing a car. Also, you are quite right that there are no other industries in place like aluminium and steel industries etc and you are quite right cars nowadays do use a lot of composite materials, however i think you misunderstood my post, as i was not suggesting we deign a car but was highlighting the little support people with ideas in Nigeria can face. It doesn't immediately have to be a car, but again, take for instance steel, getting the steel mill up and running is it really an "enormously huge" task as you claim? I really don't believe that. Now if we can start from there won't that mean we would be able to now export processed steel and won't it also mean we won't have to impot it anymore? See where i am coming from? Making the country less dependent on imports by trying to manufacture what we can and increasing that sector. It is very doable since steel is needed in quite number of applications anyway one of the major being construction which should be going on in Nigeria. Now imagine if we now start opening other industries? Not necessarily manufacture of complex finished products, but another good example is opening of refineries. Is it that "enormously huge" a task as you claim or is it just lacking the will to actually do it? Refineries produce added value products from crude oil especially in the petrochemical range and other polymers. Hence a refinery alone has lots of by products apart from fuel which Nigeria imports which can be used for making polymers, chemicals like ethane etc and others that can be used in the pharmaceutical industry, even tar used for making roads, the list is endless. See how it now all starts coming together? Development will be faster because we won't hae to import those things anymore and it would mean having a country that is a little more self sufficient. That is how it all starts and soon it would be feasible to maunufacture more complex goods in Nigeria because the other support industries are there. I just used two examples of what we can easily already have, that is the steel mill and refineries. It doesn't have to be so complicated so why make it so?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 11:30pm On Jun 07, 2008
vivaladiva:
africa needs a social revolution not investment nor trade
the sonner we realise that the bulk of the african problem can be attributed to our social backwardness, then we are on our way to making some some sort of progress
the miracle of the asian tiger economies was due mainly to social structural change
when i see the chineese shaking hands with the nigerian so called governments i just laugh
our african brothers and sisters havent got a clue
just take a look at the united arab emirates and u will know that we need a social revolution
So true, but i see that in Asian countries like china but not in united arab emirates. In china you can see the the strong work ethic and the strong solidarity its people share with building what can only be described as an empire nation. There is a rich history of that cohesiveness to a common goal and working hard to achieve it to tap into of which the great wall is a living testament. Hence the idea that china decided to develop and it did is not so revolutionary in a "that was new for them" kind of way. They have had that down for a while. However i think in Saudi Arabia the development is mainly due to oil money. They have been smart with their oil money and Nigeria has been too selfish and stupid. When i think of Social revolution i immediately think of france. Sure the french revolution was bloody and we don't want that, but it was also social in the sense that the whole country had a reorientation in psyche and how they wanted their country to be. The effects are still seen till this day and the french are very involved in their politics and i admire their democracy more than any other. A social revolution does not necessarily have to turn us into another china but i think it would come when we have a shared vision of what direction we all want Nigeria and africa to take and where we want it to be (i already know my own vision for africa). However this is going to happen when people in the country get more involved and interested in Politics, key word being involved and politics meaning the way the nation is run not Nigerian definition of "politics". It will naturally happen if we feel we have a country worth dying or fighting for and i know how drastic that sounds but it seems no one really believes Nigeria is worth fighting for and that could actually be the problem. When we actually believe in the country and believe it is worth our effort then it is only natural to act to develop it etc. However what we have now is trash occupying the vacuum left by this absence of people with that ideal which is only natural.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 8:36pm On Jun 07, 2008
@wirinet though increasing the secondary product sector so we produce more finished goods is hard work, you make it sound like a very huge task, but is it really? Were we not all hearing the news of a Nigerian company that was going to be producing vehicles (mostly buses) in some southern state? There was also the news of a Nigerian professor who designed a car but the government was not backing him so he took his business to south africa so that the car could be produced there. Also not all african countries just simply trade in raw materials, quite a few african countries have an aumtomobile industry including south africa. The decision of a country to become a dumping ground for trash produced in other continents is up to them and is not forced. If the nigerian government had the foresight and sense it would reduce imports and right now focus on making the country a bit more self sufficient in such a way that we would be able to produce our own cars, hence reduce imports of second hand vehicles etc. Can you believe that Nigeria imports rice? The ammount of things imported is just ludacris. Doesn't that simply mean that if crude oil dries up tomorrow Nigeria is screwed? Even the oil we produce we don't refine, someone else does and sells the fuel at a much higher cost due to the added value on the crude oil. If Nigeria is a dumping ground it is because it is comfortable in that position so don't make it sound like it is a necessity.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Africa Needs Investment, Not Aid by SkyBlue1: 6:54pm On Jun 07, 2008
@bluehorizo and davidif, so what about other African countries? Can't African countries trade among themselves? The way people speak sometimes gives the impression that if Africa was the only conmtinent in the world it would shrivel up and die because of stupidity. Africa it seems is trying to find its place in the world order, maybe it is time it focused more internaly than this begging for foreign investors. Spend time to develop the countries and see if other countries in other continent won't want to come. In the Nigerian sense, that means making ECOWAS work and making it viable, give it a direction so that its existence is not just footnoted by so called "meetings" in Abuja. When Africa (i.e Africans) want to develop then development will be achieved but if you are not willing to do it why expect it?
Politics › Re: Fuel Price Hike Imminent by SkyBlue1: 10:52am On Jun 07, 2008
@Truequest, what are the state of the refineries because i can't imagine there is any workable one that is up to standards? What is stopping the government from selling the refineries off in concessions like was done for Lagos port and just very recently the Port Harcourt port also? Thesame Nigerian company bought both and the Lagos port has improved immensely and a system and port that was ridden with so much inefficieny (that ships where berting in Neigbouring countries and transporting their goods accross the border via land because of the time it took to berth in Nigeria whereby this route was quicker) has become efficient and profitable. Why can't thesame approach be used for the refineries? The government in Port Harcourt at a point did not even know how much crude oil shell was pumping a day that when it was actually checked, shell was pumping more than it claimed. Too much inefficieny which if tackeled will make a huge difference in generated revenue.
Politics › Re: Shell Don Leave Ogoni Land; Shout Alleluia. by SkyBlue1: 1:40am On Jun 07, 2008
[quote author=sleek_p link=topic=139981.msg2345051#msg2345051 date=1212798035]While the govt can't be exonerated, we only have to see the environmental catastrophe Shell caused to know its time to tell Shell adieu. Does Shell destroy the communities where it has oil rigs in Europe?[/quote]Any why does shell not act like this in those countries? Is it not because they know they won't get away with it? Why is it that companies can behave themselves outside Nigeria but when it comes to Nigeria anything goes? What was the government doing when shell was wreaking havoc? Is government going to suddenly wake up to its responsibilities with the new company? If we keep spitting on ourselves why should we express shock and horror when someone else does it to us?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Senate Turns Down Motion Of Commendation To Obama by SkyBlue1: 10:24am On Jun 06, 2008
When you consider that the house recently (about 2 days ago) failed to pass the Freedom of information bill AGAIN this news is even more irritating. The reasons given by David Mark were the most trivial rubbish. Why does the issue of libel come up when it is already enshrined in law? Is the next excuse going to be "making sure 419 is noted to be against the law"? All this fumbling is just disgusting. It has been over a year now and the bill which everyone was saying will be passed quickly is still not passed? I hope people in states start familiarising themselves with the procedures for a recall election because this is just beating around the bush. Why are people high up so scared of freedom of information. The excuse Obasanjo gave for not passing the bill as that he had an issue with the name of the bill since "Freedom" did not really capsulate the intention of the bill. And now more stalling?
Politics › Re: Shell Don Leave Ogoni Land; Shout Alleluia. by SkyBlue1: 9:06am On Jun 06, 2008
WOW, i don't know whether it is denial or what. Why do we like to do buck passing? How quickly this thread just fell into tribal sentiments. OK, let us analyse this logically, who is in charge of the education sector in the Niger Delta States? Is it not the government? @MallamMusa, so only indeginous people should be allowed to run the company even if they might be of lesser qualification and experience? Don't read into what i am not saying, people in Port Harcourt go to school of course, but with an education system that is so flawed whereby people can get good grades by simply buying some lecturer's "handout" or "book" or bribing and so on which we don't have to get into here you then have to ask yourself what the worth of those degrees are. Again don't hear what i am not saying, there are some good lecturers in Port Harcourt that got degrees abroad due to scholarship some 30 year ago i believe. But for the state of things who should you hold responsible? You want to go and hold some dead person responsible for the inaction of the government of that state in not just the educations sector but every other? Sorry but i just don't get it. How quick we are to pass buck, i am not really interested in what Awolowo did or did not do because we can't keep making excuses for rubbish. What on earth did Peter Odili do during his 8 years apart from reign terror on the people? What did Ibori do? So are you now also going to get angry at Fashola that is already investing in Education if in a few years time the schools in Lagos can provide much better graduates who can do the job better while those in the Delta regions are continuously ignored by the government and churn out some hard working people who have to be trained from scratch before they are given a job? What is the current government in Rivers State doing about education? Can we at least make the effort to be mad at the right people and act on that? If the current government is not doing anything in that sector what are people doing about it? Infact what is the governor in Rivers State doing? Can we please stop making excuses for where we are? Continuing like that is just folly.
Politics › Re: Shell Don Leave Ogoni Land; Shout Alleluia. by SkyBlue1: 8:50pm On Jun 05, 2008
@naijaking, did shell forcefully step on the people or did the people allow themselves to be stepped on? Please can we at least take some responsibility? The way i see this news is that its either the Nigerian government has some plan to start taking care of the interest of its citizens or it just removed shell because of all the noise. How would things change if Nigeria keeps on assuming the slave and servant position? Shell is not completely to blame, what about the ex governors who are now wealthy beyond reason considering the state at which they left the people? That is why this whole militancy continues to be nothing but a farce to me. They don't know where these ex leaders who robbed them live? But it is innocent citizens they choose to bother? Shell was allowed to do what they did, the government has the power to remove shell but cannot make them "behave"? Does that make sense? What is done is done but what is being done to make sure things are different next time? We have to start treating ourselves better, we all know the saying "Respect yourself, "
Foreign Affairs › Re: Senate Turns Down Motion Of Commendation To Obama by SkyBlue1: 7:37pm On Jun 05, 2008
Afam:
The people of Ekiti should begin the recall process as their senator has no business being in the senate if this is the type of nonsense he can come up with considering the number of serious issues needing attention in Nigeria right now.
It seems a lot of states should start doing that because the House is just a disgrace. Does the constituion of Nigeria not have the provision for a recall election?
Politics › Re: Waziri's Appointment Confirmed! by SkyBlue1: 7:14pm On Jun 05, 2008
@Afam, i understand where you are coming from (at least i think i do). However, whatever system we adopt, whether it is one that is more "Nigerian" oriented or whatever, would that system now automatically make everyone a saint? Whatever system we adopt, if the mentality is thesame i really don't see how things will change. If its thesame people with thesame attitude then how can things be different? While i agree that a system tailor made for us could have been more beneficial, i still believe that the systems we adopt don't seem to be the problem, it is the people that run the system. So what about the countries practising thesame system we have now? Are they only western? If such a system that was not tailor made for all can still work for them then why can't it even attempt to work for us? Will a new system make corruption dissappear? Before any of this is attempted the law must be enforced. Your reference to china shows a country with low tolerance for rubbish where the law is enforced. If it was in America or Europe, a corrupt official might not be killed by firing squad, but he/she would still be punished, hence making sure the law is enforced. However, in Nigeria all you get is some minor inconvenience of being called a thief, followed simultaneously with chieftaincy titles. Now, why on earth will things not continue the way they are? What is the point of having laws and a constitution if the values of the constitution are not protected and the convictions which the law provides are not enforced? Won't any new system we adopt have laws?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Senate Turns Down Motion Of Commendation To Obama by SkyBlue1: 5:51pm On Jun 05, 2008
Wow, this is what they spend their time delibrating and how many bills have they passed? Wasn't the chairman of the house complaining that the house is seriously lagging behind in their duties of addressing bills, etc? And they are still getting their pay unlike lots of civil servants that have to wait till january to get last November's salary. Soon it would be motion to commend whoever wins a football match in some country in Europe that has all the ammenities and protection of its citizens that Nigeria does not have. What concerns Nigerian senate and Barack Obama?
Crime › Re: Six Policemen Arrested Over Killing In Nigeria's Lagos State by SkyBlue1(op): 3:12pm On Jun 05, 2008
@SENATOR u said you got your info from punch. Just to be sure i was not missing anything i just read the punch article. Where does it say he sped off and refused to stop? You also have to keep in mind that there have been a significant ammount of incidences whereby armed robbers dress up as police officers to rob people at check points. Considering that most of the time check points serve no purpose than to provide police officers with citizens to stop and collect 20Naira from or more, shouldn't these checkpoints be scrapped? Still, staying on the topic, can you please show where it said he sped off and refused to stop, hence the shooting?
Crime › Re: Cultists Kill Lecturer, Students,-one Dies As Brt Bus Crushes Car In Lagos by SkyBlue1: 1:24pm On Jun 05, 2008
@abdurrazaq i agree with that, that is why law enforcement is so important. All this toutish behaviour will continue on every level and fabric if the law is not enforced. Why on earth do we have a constituion if its values are not enforced? We might as well have no constitution and be a lawless land because Nigeria is not far from it anyway. Leaders will steal as they please and abuse office and they are celebrated and walk free while a lot of graduates who have not even seen trial are in jail for the most trivial of reasons. Some were not even given reasons and they are rotting in jail. It is all upside down. Unfortunately the people who are meant to be enforcing the law are also part of the problem. The Law must be enforced because Nigeria it seems might need to be flogged into common sense.

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