₦airaland Forum

barcanista:
Point of Correction Sir, I wasn't dogmatic with respect to GEJ. I lost confidence in the alternative with respect to their plans and sincerity.

So you thought it was better to continue with the same failed president and failed party of the past 16 years than giving an alternative group a chance? Anyway, everyone is entitled to their choice, I was just curious because the logic you espoused in your criticism of Orubebe now, seemed non-existent before.

barcanista:
My position on Jonathan has been very clear with respect to his performance or otherwise in office.

For someone who it hasn't been clear to, then why the dogmatic defence and insistence of his continuation in power pre-election even in the face of evidence of corruption, impunity and poor performance?

barcanista:
People like Elder Orubebe should understand that Ijaw people are no fools. YES, we are fighting to end the fraudulent system that disfavors us but it doesn't mean we are blind to see other of our problems. Orubebe Sir, how many road network did you build as Minister of State for Niger Delta Affair (2008-2010) and Minister of Niger Delta Affair 2010-2014? Please, relax where you are and stop preaching "marginalisation". You were in government, you had the power to push then end of it but because of your own interest you remained like all is well.

@Topic: how do you expect us to fish when our waters have been polluted and fishes are going extinct? We shall continue to advocate for what is ours and end to marginalisation. If the State want us to fish, then they have to backoff from our waters so we can fish.

The first thing you have EVER EVER said that made sense. Maybe it was an accident, maybe there is hope I don't know. I just wish you had cast that same lens of objectivity over Jonathan himself and ask him what his administration did for the region or Nigeria in general apart from his wife fighting with governors.

Congratulations but I think your ward would have preferred more solid achievements . . .

We have had this before, what you are not saying/clarifying is that it is this CURRENT administration who is proposing to spend that amount and not the administration yet to start.

john650:
If the condition of these cows are anything to go buy, ladies and gentlemen, we are in for another 1980s style austerity measure. Lord help us.

You thought the corruption gravy train would continue indefinitely? Make absolutely no mistake, Nigeria could not survive another four years of Jonathan, you don't know the fatal bullet the country dodged. A man who inherited credit and put the country in debt with oil selling at record prices in the duration of most of his tenure and all in 5 years, is the person you thought could steer the economy with debt and low oil prices? Be reasonable . . .

Everybody is entitled to choose their hero for whatever reason they decide, the evidence and facts of the current state of the country is what would decide if others would also adopt that same view. And my guess is most won't. . .

And Asari Dokubo constructed university in Benin . . . .

Ezenwammadu:
How can he spend more time with GEJ when he is more intrested in his cows.He has visted them two times this month

In your mind you have contributed something meaningful to the discussion . . . .

Only goes to highlight the utter arrogance of PDP. They could not ever forsee the slightest possibility of defeat in the figments of their wildest dream that they are so taken aback by the request for handover notes. They were so shocked of defeat after 16 years of underperformance, what kind of arrogance is that? May Nigeria never know such a party again in leadership in my lifetime.

Nigeria really dodged a bullet with this Jonathan's second coming.

No please Don't. Stay away from Ask rock and remain in your farm so Buhari won't be distracted, Nigerians voted for Buhari and not Obasanjo.

Lucasbalo:
The funny thing is that most of the people pontificating and bad mouthing America don't know a diddly square about US. With all America's faults, it's still the best place on Earth. If Kashamu gets to America, he would be tried and if he's not guilty, he would be set free. That's what happened to Lanre Shittu in Baltimore, Maryland. I have been living in Chicago for decades and you don't want to get me started about Kashamu. Well known heroine dealer on the North Side of Chicago. His days as a free man are numbered. The long arms of Uncle Sam will finally get him. General Noriega of panama was a good example.

That is pushing it to me, travel more

HiGod:
It's pretty sad to know that people like you and your likes(Just like the useless Chief (s) who sold other black to slavery back in d days) still live among us in Africa.

It's saddening when hear Africans saying all sort of rubbish about Africa continent in the presence of white people who loathe them within their souls. Africans ll continue to serve white masters as long as people like these still remain among us.

What is justice in America when a white guy gets less sentence than a black guy who committed the same crime. What is a justice in a country where Cheney and George Bush JNR still live up till date despite all their war crime in Iraq? What is a justice in a country where they openly kill their fellow human beings simply cos he is black and cover their back.

The only police man being tried for the murder of a black was covered by the same system in US until a video surfaced. They have done everything to hide it until the video surface.

Injustice has taken over America system to the point that as soon as a police man approaches a citizen most especially the black Americans, they reach for their phone cameras as quickly as they could so as to record every details of their interactions with police even if the police man is merely looking for a direction to unknown place. That is how bad the whole US system you slave are praising.

Go on YouTube and see the same US justice system you are praising. Lives had been ruined by the same US justice system by sending people to life imprisonment without enough evidence but only for the lucky ones among the guys to be released from prison when new evidence came up after 30yrs in prison.

America prosecutors are ready to rope you in as long as their targets are meant every months. It's pretty hard for US prosecutor to let you go when you mistakenly come under their radar for nothing. They would do everything within their enormous power and resources given to them to get you convicted cos it boosts their profile.

Britain repatriated one of her citizens to US and the whole country kicked against it. They claimed that their own should be tried in their own soil.

There is no sovereignty when another country could take away your citizens at will and send these citizens to an environment where there no access to their immediate family and harshest sentence on earth; the Philippines kill convicted drug trafficker once but America kill these guys with ridiculous years (25 to 40yrs) in Prison.

Nigeria is a country and allow our justice system to evolve like every justice system around the world. The early will start to stand against this double standard of America, d better for us as a Nation.

He is a victim today, who knows what tomorrow has for you? You might be a victim then....

I think you are being a bit oversentimental in the way that has been destructive to Nigeria in the past. You are so easily adjudging the accused of innocence and victimisation based on the simple fact that he is Black and Nigerian, and I don't see any rationality in that. At the end of the day it would be good for this case to be gotten to the bottom of considering this is potentially a serving senator. American justice system is not perfect, but I trust it more than I do Nigeria's, and that is what it comes down to. No need to throw an unecessarily sentimental tantrum, the evidence abounds. Ibori, Farouk Lawan, Aondoaka, etc. At least in the states you would have a semblance of a charade where evidence is heard.

Call me cynical but given the calibre of politicians we have had in the past I don't think Kashamu is avoiding America because he is scared of white supremacists 'sticking it' to another black man for the sake of it, I think he has a case to answer.

Crocz:
Visionless?...really?...and you mentioned the 7point agenda?...lol

And Jonah's being bad gives governance a whole new meaning of mediocrity...afterall we are comparing governments under different people, so why shouldn't we mention Jonathan's?

Yes, visionless. What did he achieve with the seven point agenda, just name one of the agenda that was fulfilled. Making a list of things does not make one a visionary. Yaradua government was a FAILURE. Jonathan's government was bad and so was Yaradua's, I will not sit back and allow someone rewrite the history of a presidency I remember vividly. All I remember from Yaradua's tenure was seven point agenda without results, massive impunity under Turai, Maurice Iwu, a very corrupt and heavy handed AGF called Aondoaka who shielded UK government from investigating Ibori, do I go on? That is the presidency you want to come here and defend, shameless fellow.

peleson:
Abia state should stone that useless ta orji. And fashoa should explain why lagos has the highest state depth in africa and where 1.3Triion Naira each year generated In lagos goes to for 8years

Abians returned PDP into power after complaining about how utterly terrible Orji was, I have absolutrly no sympathy for them.

Crocz:
I don't know what you are implying by "sermonise" but Ya'radua's short term is far better than Jonah's...that's a fact. He had a vision, and he was working to actualise it if only he had more time. In his time, we were never satisfied but we never go hungry...So what's your point?

My point is Yaradua's tenure was bad and visionless, period! Don't know what Jonathan's tenure being bad as well has got to do with that!

I don't believe they are deporting people who are in the country legally. If you think foreigners are working in Nigeria illegally then why not call for law enforcement in Nigeria? Why would you propose solving one illegality with another? If you are in the UK legally you have nothing to fear.

Crocz:
Ya'radua was the best Nigeria ever had...his short term far better than the whole of Jonah's...Ya'radua was a good man at heart and in doing, and his manhood legacy will live on (in GMB). But Abacha & OBJ?...God go judge dia case separate together with 'em Lucifer


However,

Let us not sermonise Yaradua because he is dead please, it is an insult to those of us who vividly remember his seven point agenda with no motion, or Turai and Aondoaka, or Maurice Iwu, or the dismantling of the EFCC. This is the problem with Nigerians, very very very short attention span. The Yaradua presidency was nothing to write home about.

derolemode:
Solution: Revolution

Thought that already happened - it was called elections.

duby91:
Lol. Fish farm is now an achievement. best public schools maybe the buildings. How is education in Rivers? How do you match performance?

The facts are there for you to explore, I am not going to bother wasting my time with your shifting goal posts, you have information at your finger tips. Just wanted to expose you for what you are and that has been done. Your very initial statement "he has done nothing" has no leg to stand on. Move on with your life. I am done

https://www.nairaland.com/2121682/top-15-most-performing-governors#30276459
https://www.nairaland.com/2091599/amaechi-secondary-schools-far-better#29764980
https://www.nairaland.com/1330443/amaechis-health-centres
https://www.nairaland.com/1987113/akpabio-vs-amaechi-stadium-lets#27830161

I just can't stand liars . . . .

egift:
Is this the type of meaningless opposition we are going to endure from PDP?

My thoughts exactly. I can imagine this burning floor time in the senate and house of reps because some people don't know what they were sent there to do.

duby91:
Lol. Am entitled to my opinion, so don't call me a liar bros. Like you said your road needs fixing, what's the basic thing a state government should give or do for his people? Agriculture? Where's the farm located cos am Curious...measure the internally generated revenue to his performance and understand my point, that's minus federal government monthly allocations. I guess you truly experienced change in Rivers. How much did he get from excess crude account? The mono rail he collected money for where is it? So apparently he spent 8 years building schools, you speak like it's a favour he's doing to his people. Do you pay tax at all? If you understand how much is deducted from a worker monthly including those expatriates in the state of cos I don't need to enlighten you on how much they're paid. The same Amaechi is owing teachers, I served and worked in Rivers before I relocated. State allowance was an issue for him, ordinary states like Enugu pay their corpers 10k monthly. Compare the two states bros. Change indeed.

You are entitled to your opinions but you are not entitled to your facts. If you really want to find the truth information abounds everywhere, Rivers State has the best public school infrastructure in the country. But what does it matter, I know you DON'T want to know the truth. And no, did not say it should not be expected from government, but it was not there before so please do spare us your sanctimonious drivel.

Your patronising sermon does not change the fact that post 1999 this outgoing administration is the best the state has seen. Go to Azikiwe road if you want to see uncompleted monorail. The fish farms are not in PH. Now go and look for what Odilli and Omehia did as well.

I refuse to believe this. I have it on good authority by posters on this forum that power has never been this good, and reports of 34/7 extra special Goodluck kissed cosy megawatts pumping through the system abound. Stop lying, you are just a hater.

Pavarottii:
U or ur father was there when he said it, or u av a video of him saying it. Anything that will accuse GEJ and vindicate GMB is what u will want t hear. Don't worry just some days left. And don't call GEJ's name again abeg. The article just told u its not true that 2B will be spent entirely for the whole inaugaration; spent on the outgoing and incoming and every other activity. Is Dino Maleye not an APC member, is he also not an incoming senator. So u think he his working for free. Its so sad, that a lot Nigerians will be deceived by the name GMB! The more u look, the less u see... My advice for u is that u open ur eyes well, support and scrutinize the incoming without sentiments. If not they will keep telling u stories, eating the money and nothing will be on ground.
Gracias!!!

You are such a child. What have you really said with all your rubbish? I quoted the article itself, that is what the article says not me, learn to read and apply common sense as well. You have a problem? Raise it with the article which we are discussing here, no need to inject your own bias or expectations against what is in print.

duby91:
He did absolutely nothing. I pity people who join him and be clamoring for change.

Why are you this disingenuous? Why?

I won't bother educating you since I know you are probably being mischeivuous for the sake of it but there are threads around this place that can. Since return to democracy Amaechi has EASILY been the best governor Rivers State has had. Easily. In educational infrastructure, in health infrastructure, in general infrastructure (even though many roads in PH still need fixing), in Agriculture. Just say you don't like him and leave it at that, no need to turn yourself into a liar as well.

Culled from the article:

"during a purported meeting between President Goodluck Jonathan and President-elect, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, the President had said N3 billion would be spent on his transition committee while Buhari was reported to have said that members of his own committee were volunteers who won't be paid."


So why the sensationalism?

What happened to all those "megawatts" and 34/7 electricity people were enjoying when they were shouting "up Jonathan"? Sycophancy is a very terrible and deadly disease, it has seriously sabotaged Nigerian leadership.

Boring. Anybody can stick american flag in the background and do speech. Who was in attendance, any foreign diplomat of note? They should have panned the camera around for us to see.

I thought everybody in the region was supposed to be threatening hell fire and threatening to make the Buhari government ungovernable. Day by day that narrative of anarchy seems to be unravelling as a figment of the imagination of some tribal bigots. Let it be known, nobody is untouchable. If any of these militants are arrested for breaking the law nothing will happen, the region will not go up in flames. People refuse to learn, there was a time when Turai and Aoondoaka or whatever he's called were seen as gods, where are they today?

People want good governance, period!

Five years of Jonathan and that airport was not complete because the president and his wife felt they had a lesson to teach Amaechi, yet some bigoted buffoons will be coming to shout "my brother my brother my oyel my oyel". Your brother could not put childishness aside and finish airport or other key projects that were important for you. Your brother and his wife are childishly vindictive, and now it is probably a northerner that such bigots despise that is going to give you airport with functional arrival hall. Jokers. Keep drowning in the ignorance and short sightedness of your bigotry. When people land from international flight in Port Harcourt airport they go and enter tent called arrrival hall, that is where they pick up their luggage.