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InvertedHammer:
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Africa (especially Nigeria) is better than US.

In Nigeria, majority of the roads are good. Nigeria has low unemployment rate, constant electricity, clean environment and top-notch water supply system. Nigerian workers/employees are guaranteed to receive their salaries at the end of every month. The one I love the most about Nigeria is that the government loves her people so much that they rise up to squash any breakdown in internal security. Nigeria is El Dorado!

Nigeria has many naira billionaires. AMCON list? What a joke! Nigerians do not use credit facilities. They have so much money that World Bank is borrowing from them. Dangote is worth about $12b and building a refinery worth of $13b. Of course, he sold everything he has and is using all his cash to do the project. Losers are always on the look out for what will soothe their misery --Hudoe is doing a good job at providing them
with the pain reliever.
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😂😂 great sarcasm

But jokes apart, Nigeria and Africa at large is a crime scene.

hermesprogidy:
I cannot agree more. America is a shit hole.

It’s nowhere as much of one as the west.

oluayebenz:
I need clarification here pls

I noticed recently Nigerian-British are also moving to Canada and Australia through express entry. I've seen 3 different people this last month alone that moved, mind you these people are Nigerian with British passport...

My questions:
Is there no more opportunities in the UK?
Is UK now having economic, security, poverty challenges ?
Is there no more 24hrs electricity, good roads and infrastructures in the Uk?

Or black man just get issues

There is no successful black country in the world. Offcourse you will have threads like this
It’s black man get issues. Blacks have an inferiority complex.

UK like all other western countries is light years ahead of Africa in development.
The UK is one of the most advanced countries in the world as it’s a G7 country.

America is like the prodigal son of Britain. The West is on a whole other level compared to Africa. Latin America is Africa’s mate not the West.

salford:
I kind of understand how easy it is to overlook the struggle of others when we are comfortable, so I won't call it self denial. It is not a lie that there is extreme poverty in Nigeria especially in the North.

I am not even going to reply that other troll called timesup again. It's pointless talking to someone that has mental issues.

The whites really did a number of Africans.

TheEnforcer:
Mr Nigeria,are you the one to bring it down to 200n to a dollar when it has been at 350 for some time now.You are so delusional .the New yorks economy is worth$ 1. 5 trn, and thats just a state.So it means New yorks economy is bigger than that of the whole of 36 Nigerian states.Mr, case closed. Go and sleep.

That’s half of African GDP😂😂

Naira is now 1,587 to a dollar.

timesup234:
This is the dumbest post ever on social media. Lagos state has a bigger economy than 20 states in America and when calculated for GDP purchasing power, the Nigerian economy is over $1 trillion annually. There are more money going to America from Nigeria than coming in. This shows you are a complete dunce and novice when it comes to economics. Talking about peanut $200 sent from abroad. The large bulk of that money comes from Nigerians doing businesses back home and fraudsters. When the exchange rate eventually ease to 200 naira to the dollar the Lagos economy will be bigger than 40 states in America. You guys are so dumb. Learn to do critical research before typing bullshit

Naira is never going to appreciate. Ease to 200? 😂😂
There are US companies richer than all of Africa.

blueAgent:
Apple is the first company with a $US3 trillion stock market value, lifted by investor confidence that the iPhone maker will keep launching best-selling products as it explores new markets such as automated cars and virtual reality.
Investors expect people to continue to pay top dollar for Apple products such as the iPhone. Photo: 123RF
On the first day of trading in 2022, the Silicon Valley
company's shares hit a record high of $US182.88
($NZ269.50), putting Apple's market value just above $3 trillion. The stock ended the session up 2.5 percent at $182.01, with Apple's market capitalisation at $2.99 trillion.
The world's most valuable company reached the milestone as investors bet that consumers will continue to shell out top dollar for iPhones, MacBooks and services such as Apple TV and Apple Music.
"It's a fantastic accomplishment and certainly worthy to be celebrated," said Jake Dollarhide, chief executive of Longbow Asset Management in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
"It just shows you how far Apple has come, and how
dominant it is seen as in the majority of investors' eyes."
Apple shared the $2 trillion market value club with
Microsoft, which is now worth about $2.5 trillion. Alphabet, Amazon and Tesla have market values above $1 trillion.
"The market is rewarding companies that have strong
fundamentals and balance sheets, and the companies that are hitting these sort of huge market caps have proven they are strong businesses and not speculation," said Scott Wren, senior global market strategist at Wells Fargo Investment Institute.
The rapid embrace of technologies such as 5G, virtual
reality and artificial intelligence has also helped these stocks become market darlings as investors moved towards cash- rich companies and away from businesses that have been more sensitive to economic growth.
In China, one of Apple's biggest markets, it continued to lead the smartphone market for the second straight month, beating rivals such as Vivo and Xiaomi, recent data from CounterPoint Research showed.
With Tesla now the world's most valuable automaker as Wall Street bets heavily on electric cars, many investors expect Apple to launch its own vehicle within the next few years.
"The icing on the cake, which may turn out to be the cake, is the potential for an EV car," Rhys Williams, chief strategist at Spouting Rock Asset Management said.

To put it in perspective, Apple Market value is about 6times the GDP of Nigeria ($514 . 05billion) and about $600million larger than the GDP of the entire African continent.($2,469.66trillion )

I thought I heard someone say Nigeria is a rich country? ���



Reuters

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/459048/apple-becomes-first-company-to-hit-us3-trillion-market-value

NVIDIA now has larger market cap. It’s crazy to think that companies have a larger market cap than all of Africa yet many Africans act like their relevant on the global stage.

Reflect7:
Nigerian food is trending.

English food eg fish and chips, baked beans, pies....no

Nigerian and African food is not desired internationally Internationally because of the bad smell and it’s unaesthetically pleasing? 😂😂who says they want to have Nigerian, Ethiopian, Ghanian etc food?

Reflect7:
Nigerian food is trending.

English food eg fish and chips, baked beans, pies....no

How many people will say they want to eat food from Zoogeria? 😂
African cuisine is not popular

Reflect7:
Oh please just shut your slave lips. Mr inferiority complex.

Numerous African nations have higher living standards than India.

Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, Ivory Coast, Seychelles, Cape Verde, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon are all black African - ruled nations, with a higher GDP per capita than India, so what’s your excuse now?

Other African nations like Rwanda, Uganda, Tanzania, Senegal, Ethiopia, Angola are also “getting it right” with fast-growing economies, and faster growing than India, eg Senegal with an 8.3% GDP growth rate, but you ignore all this to smear the whole continent.

Stop relying on CNN and BBC racist narratives of African inertia.

A LOT of development is happening on the continent.

Technologically, Africa is nowhere India

Reflect7:
Just to mention. This so-called ‘Arab’ influence on Europe was actually the influence of BLACK WEST AFRICAN MOORS who ruled large parts of Europe between 711 and 1492.

Nearly 800 years.

Most Africans are totally unaware of this because of colonial whitewashing of history.

But all you need to do is go on Google Images and type in “Moorish crests and statues”.

You will see hundreds of European aristocrat family crests and coats-of-arms with their black progenitors.

You will not see a single Arab in any of the images.

Just black kings and nobles.

Numerous Moorish statues in various cities across Europe too.

It was the Moors who dragged Europe out of their Dark Ages and into their Renaissance period which was the springboard for the industrial revolution.

Till today they have numerous festivals in Europe where thousands of people fill the streets to celebrate the Moors, and wear blackface, ie paint their faces black.

Again, you can see it all on Google images.

Most Moors were not black. They had blacks as slaves😂😂 and they only had sections of Europe. They were soundly defeated by the French.

Arabs conquered North Africa

erniok:
India is not that much far ahead of Africanor at par with the Europeans. Like i pointed out, they have been an emerging economy for over a decade. African countru like RSA is ahead of them in termsnof economic indices.

Their GDP is larger than all of Africa

I feel all the poster is trying to say is this; Many people still live good in Nigeria irrespective of the gloom and vices here.

My sister in the UK is a lecturer but doesnt live larger than those here in Nigeria. The life according to her is tougher and stricter if there is anyword like that. That doesnt mean the UK is bad. Life is more relaxed here but the security and infrastructure especially roads here is something else. Electricity and borehole can be covered with solar but you will have to contain with many third world problems.

Nigeria and Africa in general is nowhere the West. Not by any stretch of imagination.

timesup234:
Still more people die annually in the United States than Nigeria. With almost 3million deaths, America has the highest number of deaths than all African countries

More also die in China so what’s you’re point?

CanadaOrBust:
All I know is, I don't know why someone who has lots money would want to live in the West. Go to some third world country (not necessarily Nigeria) and live and love like a King, plus be worshipped for giving out small amounts (small to you, though huge to them)

Why would one want to be rich and live in the West?
Oh so oppressing the poor in a third world country like Nigeria is better?
You’re kinda showing as to how morally bankrupt Africans are. Nigeria is just full of vanity and Africa at large is an extremely materialistic society.
Life is not all about money. You can life a fulfilling life without excess wealth.

adonainana:
I hold my hands up and admit I was wrong . Naira got devalued to an unimaginable proportion

Like not in a lifetime would I think it was possible

Only this picture is giving me confidence in Nigeria atm

After the naira got devalued by almost 3000 percent in 1983. It never lost that much ever again . Although it forever sank but not as fast as it did in 1983.

Maybe there is hope for Nigeria in the future

By 2027, perhaps things might maybe be stable and the economy can grow again and a middle class can grow .

By all economical indices a middle class African family still has so much freedom than a typical working class European family.

Emphasis is on the word middle class tho. Nothing like that in Nigeria at the moment

Everyone is getting poorer in Nigeria even the rich, Dangote alone lost $3 billion cause of the devaluation. Now, You could say that Dollar hegemony is bad for Africa which is true but in all honesty with you. There’s nothing we can do about it. African currencies not just the naira are devaluing seriously against dollar and other western currencies.

After Jagabanu and APC finish with this country, Naira will be 2500 to a dollar and 3000 to a pound maybe even by next year.

CanadaOrBust:
It is much more fun to be rich where your money can buy you out of trouble and literally buy people who'd serve you as u wish, than have money where everyone also have money and the law doesn't care about your money!

No, even the rich areas of Nigeria such as VIA or Ikoyi has third world problems. And Nigerians particularly the elites are full of vanity. Some Nigerians think they are the s*** of the world. The rich oppress people. An average wealthy Nigerian will carry a heavily armed convoy of like 20 cars to go somewhere and acts like they own the world. As opposed to a wealthy white person that’s like 10 times richer wears casual clothing with no security around.

That’s why call me harsh but I am glad that China is humiliating Nigeria by seizing the country’s assets. It’s about time a world power humbles an arrogant nation . Giant of Africa my ass 😂😂

adonainana:
I hold my hands up and admit I was wrong . Naira got devalued to an unimaginable proportion

Like not in a lifetime would I think it was possible

Only this picture is giving me confidence in Nigeria atm

After the naira got devalued by almost 3000 percent in 1983. It never lost that much ever again . Although it forever sank but not as fast as it did in 1983.

Maybe there is hope for Nigeria in the future

By 2027, perhaps things might maybe be stable and the economy can grow again and a middle class can grow .

By all economical indices a middle class African family still has so much freedom than a typical working class European family.

Emphasis is on the word middle class tho. Nothing like that in Nigeria at the moment

You do realise that many African countries are still under dictatorship? Africa falls short, very short when it comes to thing like human rights. There is no freedom in Africa.

As others said, a cash based society just has a lot of inequality.

Nigeria isn’t going to improve or stabilise under Jagabanu or APC.

Many say ‘Nigeria matter, it don’t tire me’

In general, The dark continent has a pretty dark future ahead of it. It’s not just naira devaluing, all currencies are devaluing in Africa. Ghana, Egypt, South Africa etc are all having similar problems. African currencies devaluing makes it almost impossible for it to achieve any meaningful growth. Nigeria’s not even the biggest economy in Africa anymore. SA is. IMF’s predictions that Nigeria will lose more than half of its GDP this year.

timesup234:
In your little mind. Nigeria is so poor yet you guys ship cars daily to sell down here to make profit. Apple and Samsung continue to make sales here while Chinese brands make most of their foreign revenues here.. I bet spirits are the ones purchasing them. You bring in all kind of goods to sell to spirit. Your reasoning faculty is faulty, you might need that of a he-goat

There is a tiny market in Nigeria

CanadaOrBust:
Not many. Only the mentally ill who have not yet been institutionalized. In 9ja it is simply extreme poverty

Most of them are mentally ill

EgunMogaji2:
Many are just like that on the streets of Los Angeles.

Homelessness is not a poverty issue on the West but a drug one. Homeless are frequently begged to come off the streets but say no The homeless crisis is linked to the drug epidemic and general mental health problems rather than poverty. Its very common for a homeless person to reject shelter.

UK

‘The council’s recommendations come as official statistics show that 32% of all deaths among homeless people in England in 2017 were a result of drug poisoning. This compares with 1% for the general population‘

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/report-into-homelessness-and-drug-misuse-published--2.

US:
ADDICTION

‘68% of U.S. cities report that addiction is a their single largest cause of homelessness. * “Housing First” initiatives are well intentioned, but can be short-sighted. A formerly homeless addict is likely to return to homelessness unless they deal with the addiction’


https://arlingtonlifeshelter.org/how-we-help/resources/causes-of-homelessness.html#:~:text=ADDICTION&text=68%25%20of%20U.S.%20cities%20report,they%20deal%20with%20the%20addiction.

EgunMogaji2:
There’s not a large number of Nigerians statistically in the USA.

Mexicans, yes, Nigerians, no.

This cannot be used to justify any crime data.

The reality is that violent crimes occurs in both places.

I lived in suburbs in the USA and crime is practically non existent. I’m hoping for the same here.

Where one lives and how one lives is crucial.

Nigeria homicide rate is 34 per 100k vs US at 6 per 100k

EgunMogaji2:
Many houses in my neighborhood in Ibadan do not have fences.

I consider MaiGuard an affordable luxury not a necessity.

There are very violent crimes in East LA, Compton, South Central, etc and on most MLK Boulevard in USA cities.

All countries have crime.

My personal issue is response to crime. I wish that I could bring my arsenal to Nigeria

I hate when people say ‘but this thing is everywhere’ that’s true. But that doesn’t change the fact that there is far more crime in Nigeria than America.

timesup234:
America is the crime capital of the world. More like a jungle where monkeys dwell. The United States has more people in prison than the whole of Africa and China. America is a crime infested shithole

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/06/28/us/mass-incarceration-five-key-facts/index.html?

US crime is a tear compared to Africa

timesup234:
America is the capital of homelessness and poverty. Homeless people everywhere in New York, Shitcago and California begging you to spare them a dollar. Even close to the white house you will see many of them. The US. media sell the American dream to guillible Nigerians so they can move down and work like slaves round the clock. Due to the long working hours majority of Nigerians are mentally scarred forever. It is indeed a disaster. Nobody should experience this great depression and anxiety

It’s a sextillion times better than Africa

CanadaOrBust:
I believe if u have up to a certain amount of wealth you’d be happier in 9ja than in West (except for SECURITY!)

Even being rich in Africa sucks

HBB1:
What CEO earns 3000 pounds monthly?
Maybe CEO of a shop!

I don't know what kind of friends you keep or circles you role in.

I know several people who earn more than 3000 pounds and they are no where near anything like CEO.

A friend sent me his paycheck some months back and it was 6600 pounds-- young Nigerian guy!

For the Nigerian guy earning 1.5 million... It's good money in Nigeria,yes, but he won't live in a poor area.

In Lagos, he lives on the Island, pays rent of say 2.5 million, minus electricity.

...He pays for health ( worse if you don't have health insurance) and school fees ( if he has kids), and it has to be according to 1.5million salary standard.
Hospitals on the Island, deposit for admission would be at least 250K, even if you have malaria. Then school fees would shatter your brain!

All of these are free in some parts, once you pay rent ( and it's attached bills) and food, you are good to go.

70 percent of Nigerians will slide into poverty if they have an illness like kidney failure, but people still bounce around (like say nothing dey) in the UK.

All the tax paid in the West is geared towards making their lives better.
The plan is for as many people to live comfortable lives.
I have been to British Parliament and gone to the Prime Minister's office-- nothing grand. The rug in front of Theresa May's office showed it had been used very well!

The idea is to manage resources so as many people will live well.

Mind you 1.5 million naira earner in Nigeria CANNOT gallivant up and down-- no MONTHLY Harrod's or Dubai or anything, the money no reach. In the international market, it's still Forex you will pay.

Westerners aren’t anywhere as proud as Africans/blacks. Blacks have a a fragile ego. You’ll see a Nigerian politician that’s not even that rich with a heavily armed convoy as opposed to a wealthy westerner that is like 20x richer in a coffee shop.

EgunMogaji2:
Wherever you are, work hard and pray for God’s favor.

This is skid row, Los Angeles. Just down the street from Hollywood and Beverly Hills.

Still better than most of africa

timesup234:
Which figures did I cook up? That majority of Americans dont have $400? That majority cant afford their cars and homes? That majority cant pay college tuitions for their kids? That America is the world capital of homelessness? That America has the highest number of people behind bar? That college students in America are sleeping with sugar daddies in Europe in other to pay their loans? That doctors are not rich in America cos they carry a loan burden of over $300,000 during medical school? That majority of places in New York, New Jersey, Michigan and many Southern States are worse than Mushin? Come on man, not everybody can easily be fooled. Some are highly intelligent and 100% conscious of reality and not the facade called the American dream

Your just delusional 😂😂

adonainana:
if ceos are not the ones earning 3,000 a month, then who else.
Do you know how much the average salary in the uk is even
its £28,000 per year sir
Only a few privileged citizens would ever earn £60,000 per year in the UK

So these artisans you talking about now, i wonder where they fit in this equation.

Come and see lawyers here with 10 years experience on £35,000 salary

Please confirm all of this with the working class friends you may have right now in the UK

Also sir, someone buying up a whole street in London is not a working class individual

He may just be weathly enough to do so, There are a lot of millionaires and billionaires on the planet from different countries, buying and selling a property is not new.

So forget what the indians and paki have been trying to tell you.

Also your last paragrapgh vindicates my point, yes the naija guy would be left with so much from his 1.5 million naira that he would be able to afford to come to London and shop in Harrods every month. Yes this happens all the time

Now can the UK equivalent guy who has just earned £3,000 go to dubai every month and spend from his salary what he is not sure would even last him till the end of the month, the answer is NO

So the Naija guy is richer than him cos he would even come to London every month, spend spend spend then go back home cos he is way way much better

This aged like milk. Naira devalued A LOT

adonainana:
This are true problems indeed and sound more like a proper nuisance. My condolences that you are going through this.

But this sort of things looks more temporary than permanent, You can change to doubled glazed windows to stop the noise from the neighbours ( if realistically it is possible) Your bore hole you sank is for life, you will pay Thames water monthly water bills from the moment you are born here in the UK till you die.

You on the other side will never owe anyone water again in this your life time ever again.

Fuel scarcity is always a once in a year occurrence. In the UK, you will never experience Fuel scarcity but a litre is 540 naira (£1.28), which would fuel the same type of car probably, going the same distance

But like i have said throughout today, its not that you wont be making money to afford it, you surely would

Just my opinion tho

This didn’t age well. Fuel scarcity is once in a year occurrence?😂😂

timesup234:
I killed you two years ago and you made the MODs ban me for months and close my topic. 2019 is the year I will finally lay you to rest. I know thousands of people who never left lagos who can buy you, buy the street you live in America, buy your dog and your whole entire family and tell donald trump to keep the change

The delusion and arrogance of Nigerians is crazy.