₦airaland Forum

Abfinest007:
man u for relegation.man u need to apologise to Mourinho . when they won against Chelsea they thought they have arrived

You would appreciate utd haven't been able to field that team that beat Chelsea of late...

Pogba, Martial, Wan Bissaka and Shaw were all crucial and are all unavailable

tundeb303:
The Problem is that our current social and political climate did not come to be by external forces, or by paranormal superimposition. We created it, Nigerians did. But we blame government? But government came to be due to the citenzry, we blame the system? We created the system. So it is an infintely expanding chain of blame games. It is high time Nigeria took the blame, which is, there are more stupid and blind people in Nigeria then there are smart persons. And demcoracy even makes things, worse. Wrong choices willgo on overulinng right choices. So its a game of Numbers. And the stupid wins here.

Actually the British created this system. We are a fundamentally divided nation and always will be. We were brought together against our will, and are kept together by partisan interests. How do you expect patriotism and good stewardship from our leaders?

tundeb303:
The postulation in its entirety is illuatrative and merely comparing the wisdom between the two parties.


As for our present day politicians the stupidity of their so called smart moves is much more grander and lingering and resonating. It lies Is in not just the fact that the will still ride on these roads the refuse to repair or repair properly. They fly abroad to treat themselves instead of reforming health.or more

But much more in the fact that a person steals billions of Naira, when in the end he will not even eat half a quarter of it before he dies, he is not smart enough of to see the vanity in it. I mean who steals a billion dollars? It while i said majority of so called educated Nigerian are just certificate holders, if not someone will not steal a billion dollars, only to end up not spending half of it before leaving the world, so that it can go back to earth and others.


If will do things right we can all collectively enjoy all these, even better, but alas, forsight of the future is what most Nigerian lack.

And lack of forsight is the major feature of the dumb and mentally blind. No?

You make very good points but like I said, it is about the system. It is classic game theory. A smart and unscrupulous person thrown into Nigeria's current political and government environment says to himself,

"if i don't steal someone else will."

You see what we face in Nigeria is not that we do not have foresight, it is that we do not have the natural sense of patriotism that comes when a Nation is united at its core.

tundeb303:
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Seriously?
The smart and unselfish one would be far harder to catch. And with that he is guaranteed more money in the future, to do.more and better roads, by and from whomever gave him the money.


The next would have shown and. Annouced to the world what a slowpoke he is, by his "eat it all" mentality. And easier to detect. Making the flow come to an abrupt end. If not the loss of part of or even all of the money.

Does your postulation bear out in reality? The hundreds of wealthy leaders who stole, both known and unknown, are they not living very comfortably?

The system is designed to enable thievery, so a smart thief under such a system knows that he does not need to keep a low profile to be safe, but rather needs the right political connections. Under such circumstances, a smart thief would steal as much as he can, and then maintain his safety by politicking and bribery.

richie240:
Teh mee sth!
Are u now saying se and ss are not one as daily bandied on sm?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion or political ideaology.

However, in your original post you said specifically identified Igbos and now you have shifted to SE. In the context of claiming that SE and SS is one, you would have to appreciate that SE which is a region does not equal Igbo which is a tribe. Therefore you could argue that 90% of the team is SE but you could not claim that 90% of the team is Igbo.

Blackvic1:
first of all give a smart and selfish person $10 to build a bridge and give a dumb and selfish person the same amount a smart guy will find ways to build a standard Brigde and maximize profit whereas a dumb and selfish person wouldn’t care he will even find a way to lie and increase the amount of the project even award the project to himself or bring in foreign companies and ask them to build a bridge worth $0.5 in detriments of his country whereas a smart selfish person will build the same bridge with standard goods and find a way to cut costs....just like an average Nigerian politician building a 5km road with billions of naira and still not finish the bridge but an average Chinese man building the same road with less than 500million naira go to China you will see there roads they built with less amount than what we spend here for substandard pavement lol

You've not answered my question.

Going by your analogy, the selfish one ends up with more than $10 whereas the smart unselfish one ends up with less than $10. At the end of the day, the selfish one who you call dumb, is in a better individual position, which is his goal as a selfish person.

I want you to explain what makes him dumb within this context.

richie240:
hehehehehehe....I thot u claim se and ss are one?
When it favors u, they are one and when it doesn't suit u, they are different.
lolz

Where did I claim SE and SS are one?

openmine:
Rashford is always used as a 9 when harry is out injured!
Lets forget about the sudden form of abraham...once there is a slump or a loss in form,will the english team or chelsea team back abraham by playing him even when he is not scoring goals like he used to?

So is it Nigeria that will stick with him when he is not scoring?

And btw, Rashford has played that 9 for England like once! And there is very little chance they would play him there while Abraham is available.

JayGraphics:
How quick are you to forget that Media hype people.
First season of Rashford he was compare to Rinaldo because of the way he came to limelight.
Don't be decieve after two matches Abraham might not be called again.
What england did was to secure alternative not because they need him

This is clearly not media hype. Tammy Abraham is scoring the goals...where is the media hype?

In football, it is said that you are only as good as your last game. If he stops scoring do you think even Nigeria will call him up??

Of course he has to make his decision off his current form and self-belief.

Blackvic1:
a smart person knows when to be selfish and when not to that’s what distinguishes between a dumb person and a smart person most world leaders are selfish but smart they put there citizens first before even stealing but here our leaders are dumb that’s why they steal and even steal the constituency money and a white man will steal and still work for his country it’s only a foolish and dumb person that will build a substandard project but a white man will build a standard project for his people and still steal that’s the difference an average black man is foolish in his ways although there are few smart ones but the dumb and foolish ones are more than the smart ones

Okay, for exmaple:

It is dumb to build a sub-standard project, while you are getting stupendously rich in the process right? Can you logically outline how this is dumb from a selfish person's perspective?

Binikingdowm:
Igbos don't complain when it favours them.90% of Nigeria players are igbos

11 out of 23 is 90%?

Blackvic1:
high capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings,and how would leaders have this and still misbehave? An average smart leader puts his subjects or citizens first ie the Emirates of Dubai leader and other leaders of western countries.... Nigerian leaders are too dumb for my liking far from smartness

The answer to your question is called appreciating the fact that there are multiple variables involved in the model.

Are you saying there are no smart and selfish people?

Are you saying there are no smart and unpatriotic people?

Are you saying there are no smart and wicked people?

What is the correlation between mental capacity and altruisim?

openmine:
There is vardy and rashford!
abraham is not even 3rd choice!
Well,like i said i wish him well...I just hope he doesn't go the way of gabriel agbonlahor or fashanu!

Rashford does not play 9 for England.

And Abraham is clearly a better goal scorer.

Blackvic1:
our leaders know nothing about been smart, what do you think the definition of smartness is ?

Please go straight to your point. What is smartness according to you, and how do Nigerian leaders not have it?

thebosstrevor:
i still dont get it is the government the reason why Nigeria cant not develop?

Logic will be, if Nigerians are smart then they will have smart people in power to lead them

N.B: i dont believe that government interference is the solution to all problems

And who says that bad leadership is because we don't have smart leaders? Of course our leaders are very smart. That does not mean that they will act in the interest of the nation.

It sounds like your thesis, though unstated, is that Nigerians are not smart. And if that is what you want to debate, just go straight to the point so that we can have the appropriate debate.

thebosstrevor:
Nigerians always say they are one of the smartest people in the world, they boast and beat their chest that they are so intelligent and smart and nobody can beat a Nigerian, but then again with all these bragging, Nigeria is not developed and cant boast of a middle class

My question to you Nigerian Folks, if Nigerians are one of the smartest in the world, why isnt Nigeria developed? pls do not mention bad government, i am tired of hearing that.

Would your being tired of hearing it make it any less of the truth?

openmine:
There is hope for tomori but not Abraham....there are too many proven strikers in england!

The problem is once there is a dip in form or a barren period,it would affect Abraham's performance both for club and country!

But that's his decision and we need to respect it and focus more on our grassroot soccer to develop our own future super stars!

England have one spot for a number 9 type like Abraham. Other than Kane, who are these proven strikers that play there?

JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI:
Highest goal score in the premier league and Romero that kept Salah at bay is not important also?


Hope we all know the contribution of moses to our nations cup triumph

For the benefit of those who will either not read or not understand, Rohr did not say those players are not needed in the Super Eagles.

He said he has made his immediate plans without considering them because they (the players themselves) are not interested in discussing their international options at the moment.

oloriooko:
So FIKAYO TOMORI sounds English to him abi to the extent that the name never rang bell that he's probably from Africa? Or na Canadians dey bear FIKAYO or TOMORI?

I don't know how Efe wants us to believe he didn't know Tomori was of Nigerian origin.

kendrick93:
in how many games, seven? Sorry but those stats are kind of meaningless in the grand scheme of things....
What if he stops scoring from January upward,will u still trot this stat out... I dunno why Nigerians love bigging players after just few games and is even in the French league. No offense but even giroud scored buckeloads in that league.

In the grand scheme of things, we are talking about a player that has done it at every level he has played at. The boy set the world record the most goals in a single u17 world cup with 10 goals. Scored 20 at Charleroi and is simply continuing to do what he has always done. If you don't take him serious by now, when will you??

BrutalJab:
Tammy Abraham is surrounded by top players like Barkley, William, Mason Mount and Jorginho right?

Tammy Abraham self scored in the champions league so what?

I doubt if you even watch football.

In my first post I said Abraham is the better player.

Next time don't jump in on a conversation where no one is talking to you.

kendrick93:
it's been one game in the CL so it's not like he's been banging them consistently..let's wait till end of season. The likes of Nicholas Pepe were more Impressive in Lille and himself is struggling at a top club in England

Check the facts. Osimhen recently set a goal scoring record in Lille, of which the previous record holder was Hazard. As for whether he will continue to score know the Champions League, that is irrelevant to the present debate as neither of us can see what is in either Osimhen nor Abraham's future.

kendrick93:
doing it at chelsea a big club in a top league isnt comparable to whatever osimhem is doing at Lille in Ligue 1 you have to admit

Of course it is very comparable. If Abraham were doing it for a small team in the premier league then it would be more impressive but he is playing at Chelsea where he is surrounded by top players compared to Osimhen's Lille.

Secondly the French league is not as competitive as the premier league but it still an A league. Plus Osimhen is also showing the same form in the champions league.

FlackoJodye:
I wanted to first roast you but on a second thought I had to read through and get what you was saying,Hhhmmmm on the topic ,you’re wrong ,It’s not bad at all if we have Tammy as backup for the better in form oshimen,as for removing musa and Leon from the nationals team I say a huge no!,musa brings enough pace and experience to the team that most of these rookies don’t even know,and there’s no testes defense trio in the team than Leon ekong and omeruo,forget that Tomori gy for now

On current form Osimhen and Abraham are at about level and Abraham may be a better player. Balogun does not play for his club which is bottom level premier league team whereas

Tomori is a starter for Chelsea. Not to mention the fact that Balogun is old and prone to making errors.

Whatever pace Musa brings can be matched by Onyekuru.

creolehunt:
I beg to disagree.

Who amongst these three can he bench?
Alexander Arnold Trent
Kyle Walker
Trippier.

That guy will only be a bench warmer. Mind you, this is his first season. If he goes ahead to get that England cap and his form dips next season or Chelsea buys another right back, then he should wave England goodbye.

Tomori is a center back. He is not comparing with any of those players.

deepwater:
The big question is can he truly afford it?
These players got mortgages to pay, their lifestyle is way too high their earnings can not take them home.

The person he stole from is also a player with mortgages. Mortgages do not consume your entire income by the way. Don't make assumptions about lifestyle.

However, whether he could afford it does remain a valid question. It is more closely linked to the fact that not all footballers earn the same as opposed to the footballer lifestyle generically being so unaffordable.

adonainana:
Tommy Abraham is better than Ighalo, this is a difficult statement to accept, they are both mediocre to say at least.

Abraham is better than mediocre. I have watched him and he has a few things Ighalo doesn't have. One he shoots well from range, two, he actually is not a bad dribbler in and around the box. Three, his current goal return is right up there with the best strikers in the game. I think a lot of people are underestimating Tammy.

adonainana:
its funny because the guy is not even as good as any of the worse strikers super eagles has had in the last 10 years or so, emenaro, yakubu, ighalo, so im wondering what he is coming to do.

Go and look at the goal records and tell me who in the past 15 years was a better striker for Nigeria than those two. In any case, he is actually better than Ighalo but not Yakubu.

skyblueking:
You claim you are fighting boko haram yet you just nabbed a lead...
Abi una own na just to dey make noise...

AMERICANS
*collect the bribe, let him pass....track him silently...

The result would have been more useful than that up there...

So you don't think interrogation of the suspect can yield the same results? And if I may ask, track him how exactly?

Ishilove:
They can hold a protest to 'free Tacha' but they cannot hold a protest against bad governance. The yeyebrities among them can donate millions to people whose only contribution to society is displaying the sensitive and private parts of their anatomy to the viewing public, but cannot donate to health, education and infrastructural development. Let me not even go too far- right here on Nairaland there is even a thread dedicated to discussing the useless and meaningless antics of adults locked up in a house, and that thread has several hundred pages, but none to discuss societal issues and challenges with a view to mapping out a plan to tackle these issues.

This is why we will keep having hopeless, satanic, thieving people ruling us because we lack vision and our moral compasses are almost irreversibly broken. I gave up on Nigeria a long time ago.

Have you held any protest against bad governance? Or are you a Ghanaian youth?

Are you not a part of the "they" you refer to?

healthserve:
Cyberstalking Buhari. Does Buhari know what internet is



How convenient it is for some people to throw out words carelessly, treasonable felony. How does protest equates treason?

Was protest the word Sowore used?

Revolution means something very different from protest. A revolution calls for rebellion against the established order.

"a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favour of a new system."


Constitutionally, a call for revolution is actually treason.