There is nothing exorbitant about this quotation, remember u're proposing a storey building, not a bungalow.
If I may ask, have u done the arc & structural drawings? Have seen it? Cos I'm seeing drawing. How they give quotations without drawings is what I don't get...
Op you should have put "warning, graphic pics." na.
There goes my lunch...
Yeah, u're right. The pics are quite revolting I must say. The op should have done that, it's not appealing @ all... This is what happens when u're not contented & try to be what u're not... I feel for women @times, menstrual flow is another burden on them...
Thank God I'm a man, the female biological structure is as convoluted as their logic, what a gender....
opalu: Wire mesh on hardcore is not gbogbonishe that works for every German floor. Fair enough, i stated earlier that When hardcore is properly rammed, the ground floor slab will not require major reinforcement. However, there are many structural corrections I have had to do for clients whose projects were done with wire mesh when it actually required Y12 . What works on one site might not necessarily work elsewhere.
Feminists are welcome to explain this away. I'm all ears.
[b]If you’re ever trapped in a burning building, just pray the firefighter climbing up to rescue you isn’t Rebecca Wax. Or someone like her, who’s been given an EZ-Pass through firefighting training for the sake of gender equity. This week Wax, who repeatedly flunked the rigorous physical test required by the New York City Fire Department, will graduate anyway, The Post reported. All over the nation, fire departments are easing physical standards, in response to litigation to increase the number of women firefighters. It’s roiling fire departments, and the turmoil is a preview of what’s to come for the US military, which has committed to opening all combat roles to women by 2016. Wax tried six times to pass New York’s Functional Skills Test within the 17-minute, 50-second deadline. Five times she couldn’t finish at all; on the sixth try, she needed 22 minutes. Women’s groups claim the test is needlessly difficult and unfairly bars women. Trainees wearing 50 pounds of gear and breathing through an air tank must climb six stories, raise ladders, break down doors and drag a dummy through a dark tunnel, all at breakneck speed. Sounds like firefighting. The city’s test is tougher than some tests elsewhere, but city buildings are higher. Nevertheless, Fire Commissioner Daniel Nigro gave Wax a pass because she had good performance on other measures, including academic tests. Nigro wants to significantly boost the number of women in the FDNY — now only 0.5 percent of the rank-and-file — and he wants to do it before he’s staring at a court order. Court orders are compelling Chicago to relax its standards. Two federal class-action lawsuits brought by women who flunked that city’s firefighting tests claimed that the exams required more than what is actually needed to be an effective firefighter. Women account for 3.4 percent of the Chicago force, compared with 5.7 percent of firefighters nationally. Chicago authorities settled the case last month, admitting into training the previously rejected women and paying millions to others no longer eligible. In Los Angeles, Mayor Eric Garcetti is plainly unhappy with this year’s all-male class of firefighting graduates. There were four women among the 44 recruits who started last December, but they all dropped out. Desperate to diversify, Garcetti paid the RAND Corp. a whopping $270,000 for advice. RAND’s brilliant insight was that LA should recruit women athletes who can take the grueling training. Well, duh! That’s what San Marcos, Calif., learned upon hiring Siene Freeman. Several other female recruits had washed out, but for her — a former marathoner and weight-lifter — the training was a piece of cake. Municipalities that already have women firefighters are being hit with lawsuits. But more often these are about sexual harassment rather than qualifications. This year alone, Philadelphia, Tampa and at least a dozen other cities are being sued for allowing a culture of bawdy, suggestive behavior. Tampa’s fire department personnel chief, known as “Uncle Touchy,” just resigned after admitting he had hugged, massaged and flirted with female firefighters. Many departments face the practical problem that firefighters — male and female — work 24 hour shifts, and sleep in an open bunk room, with no privacy curtains or separate changing area. That’s hardly conducive for a professional working environment. Nigro says he is going to remedy these problems in New York. Then again, the Tampa female firefighters are fanning the flames. To raise money for burn victims, they put out a calendar. Trouble is, some of them posed in bikinis, sending a mixed message. The touchy issue of women in traditional men’s occupations will be center stage this fall, when the Pentagon announces its “gender-neutral” rules for military assignments. Some feminists argue that the Marine Corps’ grueling Combat Endurance Test is more of an “initiation rite” than a fair appraisal of physical ability, the same argument Wax’s supporters use about New York’s firefighting exam. Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey ominously announced at a Pentagon briefing that if “a particular standard is so high that a woman couldn’t make it, the burden is now on the service to come back and explain . . . does it really have to be that high?” Military brass — like officials overseeing New York’s fire department — are too ready to lower standards, never mind the consequences in the field. Is that really a victory for women?[/b]
Reminds me of the rebellious attack satan launched against God thousands of years ago. This is what happens when u try to cheat nature... I just feel for lives that are going to be lost for giving certain jobs to some incompetent & weak hands in the nearest future, all for the sake of equality.....
WhatDoYouMean: Thanks for the insight. The land is 100 X 200 (2 plots of land). The soil is standard AGL. Looking at the description of the house I gave up there and the supposed facilities, I think a professional designer/builder should be able to come up with a workable estimate. As for the roof, I think Vicmoore has given me a sound backstage insight. What do you think you can do to the roof to amend it? Any pictures to support the type of roof you propose for us? We are only interested in getting someone who can give us that exact design, including all of our descriptions with professional and approved estimates
Anyone can give u a conservative or an outrageous estimate, there are no dimensions on 3d, this project is somewhat big. Workable estimate can only be gotten when the arc & struct. Drawings are done. a Qs or an experienced blder or civil engr. Can take the estimate. So I suggest u contact a land surv. & an architect. visit any of the architectural thread & discussed with them. Thereafter an arc, blder, or engr. Will take it up from there, then practical construction cost can be discussed depending on ur finishes taste..
If the area is waterlogged, then a soil test must be done to determine the type of foundation, but whether waterlogged or not, it's always safer to test the soil, since it's a storey building...
PunkyVeer: This story is not completely true. In Swaziland & parts of South Africa they do virginity testing. IT IS NOT COMPULSORY. Those that take part in it, do so on their own accord.
King Muswati DOES NOT choose a wife from the little children, he chooses from the older girls & to my understanding, the girls have a say. They can say, no.
Btw, even his daughters take part in the ceremony. It is called Reed Dance or uMhlanga. The history behind it is that, in the past, they used to send virgin girls to go pick up the reed that would be used to build the palace's cattle kraal. I don't know how it is in West Africa, but in the SADC, the kraal is the most important part of a homestead. It should be pure (women aren't allowed in the kraal) because that's where most family rituals are done, so I guess that's why virgins were allocated the task of picking up the building material. Now times are different, however,not every girl that claims to be a virgin is a virgin, like in the olden days, that's when the testing comes in, just to make sure they're still "pure" before carrying such an important royal task. It has now become part of their lifestyle to remain virgins because they want to be part of the celebrations & of course some have the hope of being the King's next bride. They're there to peacock for him--some & some are just there for the ceremony because it is considered an honour to be part of that.
Anyway, the 1st pic is king muswati's own daughter. She also takes part in the reed dance. The 2nd pic is of the girls, the potential brides to be aka palace's virgin reed pickers. 3rd pic is an example of a kraal.
Blossom023: Yes pay what you can but it doesn't apply to everyone... I know of a guy who payed 1k as dowry... My mom's bride price was up to a mil. Different families, different things.. It's not like the parents are poor but most of them want to see how much you have to take care of their daughter. In kalabari if its iya its hella expensive, if its igwo , it's cheap.. Go for any kind that suits you..
Because you can't pay bride price doesn't mean everybody should give their dota for free.. I know of a place in Yoruba land wer dey don't pay dowry.. Go there.
If I give you an iphone 6+ for free ND u saving money to buy it... Which do you think you will value?
Is the bolded one millimetre or million? That's outrageous! Even slaves weren't sold for such an outrageous amount, that's pure greed... I guess ur mum is from igbo? That tribe should really work on their bride price.
I can see most women defending tradition because of bride price, but these same women will be quick to condemn this same tradition when it comes to a man having certain rights as the head. How bias can women be... Btw, women are humans, not iphone....
opalu: Why I asked about hardcore is that anywhere it is used and well rammed, the 'German floor' will not require major reinforcement. And if the test shows a soil of very high bearing capacity, plus if the panelling of the floor is not critical, then mass concrete will be just fine. See that I spelt out the conditions. So that many people won't go and use mass concrete for ground floor where reinforcement is required and then experience structural failure. Generally the ground floor is subjected to upward forces from the earth as well as downward forces from the dead and imposed loads from top. And you know the law that says actions and reactions are equal and opposite. That is equilibrium state.
Reinforcement helps make this possible in most (not all) buildings. Rebar caters for tensile forces while concrete takes care of compressive forces.
KINGSAMURAI: This is a vital scenero in most homes today, a married man in my neigbourhood with two young kids is complaining that his wife always purchases dinner for the whole family to eat and its getting embarassing to him, he gives the wife money to cook but she will not cook but prefare purchasing meal from a canteen for the man and the children to eat, bringing excuses that she is tired after returning from work in the evening. Now, the husband wants to divorce the woman. "please women in the house is the man overeating or the wife is at fault?
Crucify her....
Thumbs up to sonofananimal1 & dragonking, u guys are brutally honest. What I can't fathom is the sudden cause of laziness among women of this generation... Honestly judging by the female comments I have seen so far, these girls are extremely lazy...
EgunMogaji: I have no control on what you choose to think or your level of comprehension or for that matter any flights of fancy that you choose to take.
If you've paid an artisan architect lately for a bungalow then state the fees paid, else go haunt another thread with your story and juvenile insinuations.
@ the emboldened, I haven't heard of that before. Don't u think it would have been more appropriate to use one, combination of both words seems odd. Well we learn everyday, I wouldn't be wrong if I say artisan engineer or artisan doctor. Lol...
EgunMogaji: I'm calling an architect an artisan, you can continue to disagree.
My rate is not what's in question and this is a non sequitur. This is a serious conversation and I do not wish for this to delve into the more common Nairaland tit for tat debacle.
The intent of the thread is specific, have you paid an architect lately, if so how much? This is not a bash on architects. It also matters less to me what your profession is.
Honestly I wouldn't be wrong saying u opened this thread to just dis architects. Artisans are craftsmen, referring to an architect as an artisan isn't appealing to say the least. I bet u wouldn't want to know what it takes to bag a first degree in architecture.
Since u already have a sketch of what u want, why not give it to a draftsman, so he can do the drawings. U don't really need to engage an architect when u already have a sketch of u want to erect, most especially when u don't have the money, all u need is a draftsman.
Prices of all services rendered by individuals are value-laden, u know this, It's just like booking an artist for a show, u can get upcoming artist for as low as 20k, but I don't think u can get wizkid for that same amount. If d price of a particular architect doesn't suit u, then go for another. There are many architects out there, I know of an architect that doesn't do drawings for less than 1m, he's worth the price, a prof & fnia. U wouldn't expect a club to buy messi & maybe one player who is still upcoming with the same price, all because they are all players. U'll get architects that will design for 2k, an undergraduate can even design for free. But the old ones will definitely charge u.
It does not apply to architecture alone, just like saying u want to travel by air, when u can only afford travelling by land. Go for what u can afford...
MrsPhyno: Thanks Shey u be Igbo boy ni? Or how you take understand Phyno's lyrics?
we dey derail sha.....
Hope we no go pay fine for derailing? Lol.. I'm not igbo, I just like the guy, most music lyrics in naija na either yoruba or igbo, so we just gat flow with the melody... Just like dagrin, I be like dat guy, but i no dey understand his lyrics, so the beat na plays a major role in naija music. I knw igbo pple love phyno. U're igbo?
MrsPhyno: My moniker na what pastor would call 'faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you do not see'. I'm sure you grab. He cut his hair o. He's now looking responsible. Are you a fan?
I grab na... Phyno is my man... For real, phyno don cut his hair? When? Because he still maintained dat hair style in oringo. But dat hair be fit am o...
MrsPhyno: Things like this give me high blood pressure. Anyways I trust myself. Thank God for that single provision for divorce in the Bible. If I say that thunder should fire cheaters now..... Well let thunder have its way.
Madam take it easy, high blood pressure is a serious one... I'm pretty sure phyno won't cheat on u, though his hair style speaks otherwise, he look like a faithful guy.. How is he? Lol...
pcguru1: Actually i concur, most times females find it hard to get over an ex than guys, especially if the breakup was based on a big hindrance, Death, genotype issue, or anything. Ex does play a big factor and that's quite bad.
debrihachi: I do hit my bf and he doesn't hit back. ...... If u can't hit ur mother u should never hit ur wife
@ the emboldened, u're very silly for making such sentence. How can u compare a man's wife to his mum? Someone who brought him to life & nurtured him... I don't blame u, I blame ur boyfriend for condoning ur reprehensible behaviour, & these are the kind of things weak men will continue to cause. u're even proud to say u hit ur boyfriend, just see the kind of senseless comment u're making, idio*t...
opalu: The proportion of Granite is normally more than that of Sharp sand. But there are instances that some Engineers and Builders recommend equal proportions.
Thanks for your response sir.... But doesn't equal proportion of sand & granite violate the conventional mix ratio of 1:2:4 or 1:3:6? I thought the highest figure in these ratio ought to be granite or gravel as the case maybe...
Xiadnat: Indeed. And it doesn't say the should be holly rollers, dressed certain ways, act certain ways.
God may indeed be in their midst despite their chosen profession. In fact, there is probably more of God in that picture than that is in many churches. #truth
I would even venture out to say God is amazed they are praying for his help. What a way to minister to them--the Holy Spirit is a gentle man. Y'know.
opalu: Buildings and their foundatons can be designed to perpetually remain in water. The truth is that good concrete mix without void and with great protection can last in water for God-knows-when. A smart Engr will assume the worst case scenario in which the foundation of the Lekki building remains in water. Truth is that there is little a house owner or professional can do to totally remove underground water. However proper drainage must be done to eliminate surface flooding and retention of water around the building for too long since most buildings in the highbrow estates were done without making allowance for the said 'worst case scenario '.
Nice job prof... Prof., can the ratio of sand be more than that of stones when mixing concrete? I thought we have more stones in concrete than sand...
classicB: l Abi now. The worse is some women even turn the bck of their kids against their fathers simply because they r frustrated of the marriage. Na by force,?
I tire my sister... When a woman doesn't relate well with her in-law, on account of no just cause, it becomes very difficult for the man. Such marriage becomes less enjoyable or may even crumble. Women really need to establish a close rapport with their in-laws, very important....
classicB: So true,some women go into marriage with hatred already for their mother in law, while most women focus their attention on their kids neglecting their husbands. What they failed to know is that the kids will.come and go and it will later remain only themselves and the already neglected husband. Education wise, kids now enter university at age 16/17 and that is when u stop seeing their greenlight unlike bfr. Love you husband and kids equally dnt place one above the other
ronald4lif: Quite true. For a relationship/marriage to thrive and subsist one must conduct themselves in an imprudent and fatuous manner most of the time. The moment one becomes conscious and brainy the affair might just hit it dead end. Wiseness and love can never co-exist. For love to thrive, wiseness has to be abjured.
It's near impossible for a marital union to preserve without turning a blind eye to a lot of things. For two people to come together and cohabitates with their true state of mind without overlooking certain misdemeanour of their partner, their union is heading for the rocks.
Humans wants are insatiable and we're becoming ravenous in whatever we embark on lately. Attempting to satisfying one's self is unattainable needless to say another person. This quenchless habit of us is responsible for the high rate of divorce proliferating the world today. Everyone aims to be the other person on the other end whom they think is happier than they are. The world is make believe, no one/couple is without an enigma irrespective of what they want the public to believe.
There's no marriage without issues. Most couple are just living together for the kids sake and prolly to forestall side-talks from friends and relatives. Others just to preserve the union. Happiness is usually far from the reason why marriages last.
U're a very sensible fellow. @ the emboldened, so true... If not for pro creation, honestly I see no reason for marriage, this emotion called love is deceitful....
Properties › Re: Please Help Me Check The Quotation Of A Storey Building From My Contractor by snakebeat: 1:11pm On Aug 08, 2015
